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I think Isaiah is a truly a likeness of what is happening in the world today .verse 20.

God chose Israel to be His ambassador,but they didn 't recognize themselves as chosen generation, to represent God, but they did not,to seek and save,there for the Israelites received the course instead of blessing,the Israelites of today are repeating instead of taking advantage of reading the history, searching the scripture for the truth. May IAM intervene and make us to do what Elijah, John the Baptist did reprove the Church and state. Amen.

The Lord woke me with this chapter on my mind. He said it was for America. This is in line with what the Lord had me write 15 or more ago with "Letters to the churches. " Which ended with the Lords quote about those letter. "Can the wind blow and the leaf quiver and it is not I says the Lord! " Soon you see these things come to pass.

All have sin and come short of Gods glory. We are deaf and blind. We, some refuse to repent a sinner is a sinner no matter what sin we commit. And you were already a sinner because we were born thanks to the original father and mother human.

God was so disappointed in the children of Israel by the way they chose to live in sin and disobedience to his words and commands. He has been so gracious and good to us all his children, let us endeavor to obey him absolutely to avoid his anger upon us.

The bible has no grey areas. Sin is Sin. Only grace through Christ can erase sin. Let each man work out his own salvation with fear and trembling. I will stand for no mans sins and no man shall stand for mine.

I 'm no bible thumper, but just saying this applies only to homosexuality is a blind farcical comment. Go look at the political world today. How about the corporate one? Don 't be so blind as to say it doesn 't apply today.

The word "woe " means "misery grief, " the consequence of calling evil, good for putting darkness for light, which is mistaking lies for truth.

Yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand and what things they do understand by instinct envy self ambition ,like unreasoning animals these are the very things that destroy them. Jude 10.

God has power to use material things to accomplish his purpose. He could've sent Angels to rebuke the madness of israel's sinful nature. Thru the sanction of hunger though after man had made his efforts to prevail God would hinder them from success. same applies to us. we can be hindered due to our wickedness! God's real.lol

There is a possibility that the GLOBAL WARMING might be the RESULT of the FIRE unto the lowest hell being ENLARGED or INCREASED by itself and shall CONSUME the earth ( Deuteronomy 32:22) against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men (2-Peter 3:7)

I believe hell is located "under the earth" according to Philippians 2:10 "in heaven and on earth and 'under the earth' "
Hell enlarged herself after Jesus preached to the Old Testament saints ( 1Peter 3:18-20) in Abraham's bosom and released them from prison. Before this, a great chasm ( Luke 16:19-31) separated Hell (those in torment) from Abraham's bosom. The rich man (in hell) asked that Lazarus (in Abraham's bosom) be sent to dip the end of his finger in water and cool his tongue. Verse 26- the great chasm was fixed... no one could cross/pass over. Jesus released those in prison and Abraham's bosom was emptied, then hell enlarged herself (was expanded).
I believe this is where Catholics get the idea of purgatory (even though this place is not mentioned in the bible). Purgatory was emptied after Jesus descended into hell and released the prisoners from Abraham's bosom.
Is the idea of hell enlarging itself (and being enlarged ever since) the cause of so-called global warming???

(This is my response to Frida's comment dated 9/13/2013 at 7:32am on 1 Samuel Chapter 19 about verse 9):

The evil spirit comes from the Lord because God said in Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things". BUT, never misinterpret this verse thinking that evil is good since God created it because there is a curse when you do that as it is written in Isaiah 5:20, "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!".

My respond to Bodurin Ajiboye's Jeremiah Chapter 1 comment about verse 19 on 9/06/2013, 5:27pm: GOD is awesome! We must accept the fact that He created everything. As it's written in Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things". But the verse should not be misunderstood. Whoever call evil good or good evil shall be cursed as it is written in Isaiah 5:20.

Wrath of God for man's transgression and trespasses

Trying to break this down, kinda confused

Yes, we are truly living in the times this verse speaks of. I live in Malta, and homo***uality, adultery, how men and women dress,(sometimes one wonders if they are dressed) are all accepted even by the authorities. If we talk against those things and about what God's Word says, they call us bigots.
But we all have to face God's judgment one day.
In Him,
George Ebejer

Men are deluded into imagining themselves to be heroes by drinking, while in reality they are gaining in weakness, wasting time and money that could be spent in becoming the men God designed them to be. Then and today, excessive drinking gradually brings a superficial egoism in place of the real heroism of going through the challenges of life to reap its real rewards.

This verse have to teach the true believer in Christ not to amount much wealth in other not to involve in building too many houses and acquiring land everywhere so that these curses would not be on them.

are we not living in the times this verse speaks of! sure seems it to me with homosexual marriage, with the rise of Islam, and the hostility to Christianity

@Tom, I believe the appropriate attitude toward sin after it has been committed is to regret it; not to defend it. We sure all sin, but no one of us is due to defend what he/she trips over. That is spiritual dishonesty. Which is purposely engaging in sin, like making a commitment that is against the scriptures, which differs from one that just falls to such, unprepared. It’s like a married man that takes a lifetime engagement to live with a mistress. It is different from one that falls to it and stand up to continue his walk in Christ. Spiritual dishonesty nullifies the power of the word of God in us and just results in unbelief; it nullifies the power of the holy spirit in us. How will God set us from things we ourselves are approving, it’s like God is going against our will. No matter how delighted we are with it, but if God forbids it, then we have first to stand against such, and take resolve to withstand it, then God can and will set us free from it. We don’t caress evil, just because we delight in it, that’s idolatry. God is the one to tell what is right and what is not, what is sweet and what is bitter, Isaiah 5:20.
Let’s stand up Brother, and let’s not dilute the word of God, nor handle it deceitfully.
Help is available if we can be meek and learn from him, Matthew 11:29. God bless you.

I was reading in the book of Revelation about Satan being given the keys to the bottomless pit, and I thought about this verse and I believe there is definitely a connection between hell enlarging herself and Satan having the keys to the bottomless pit.

@ Terrance,
Yes homosexuality is a sin, acknowledging it for a sin is in fact the beginning of deliverance.
No matter what reasons people may put forward to justify it, but homosexuality is a sin. It is a deception (misconception) in its lower levels, and a possession at its higher levels.
A possession by two kinds of spirits; the spirit of self-mutilation, and that of sadism. Of course some justify it saying some people are born with that leaning, so it should be normal, but there are also people who are born with other kind of sicknesses, and we still consider them as sick people.
As we Christians need to please and honour God, God is the one to say what is good and bad ( Isaiah 5:20). And in that very category, God says it is bad, irrespective to what community says.
So the choice is ours to either please God, or relinquish to world’s fades.
Happily that you are willing to withstand. I can say to you “that he which hath begun a good work (of deliverance) in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ” Philippians 1:6.
So, DON’T GIVE UP.

Verse 20. Unsaved men being used by the devil and tools like television and other media are rapidly calling the evil sins of lesbian and gay people good. Woe unto them. Check your Bible and see what sin it is before, God judges and brings judgement. It is the sin of Sodomy. It is EVIL!!!!!!!

What I've learnt from this chapter is, God wants his children to be wise.

The Lord is not saying don't drink, but He is letting one know the ramifications of what drinking in certain manners bring.
From verse 20-24 The Lord is pointing out some serious faults of mankind, and even so called church members of today.
Isaiah 5 is very edifying and a revealing and encouraging piece of work...thought provoking for those who have been going through, and a word of caution for those who have been doing the provoking under the guise of being a child of God.
Powerful chapter, and strengthening.

I have enjoyed reading this chapter andfind it very intereting that man will not follow theinstruction of God. Stong drink hs been a problem for a long time. however people don't seem to take heed to the fact tht we wil have to pay for deeds done in this body. Interestingly enough, hell is widening every day. Some christians think that they can drink wine with their meals and just at any time. We need to be sober to make righteous decisions.

God has been so gracious towards humanity, ye we have repaid Him with evil. What is worse, is that we have the temerity to tell how we will relate to Him, while pursuing own own ungodly lusts. There canbe no mistake. God expects obedience to ALL HIS COMMANDMENTS!! By ourselves, such obedience is impossible. But thanks be to God!! His grace and power will enable the weakest man or woman to obey His perfect will. Then, instead of 'wild grapes', we will manifest ' the fruit of the Spirit'!!

I noticed that two of the woes pronounced are upon those that drink or are intoxicated. Intoxication is a state of no self control, which God does not approve.

According to the word of the LORD the rock from whence we are hewn is a comet( Psalms 18: 12, 13; Daniel 2: 34, 35; Revelation 8: 11; 9: 1 - too many others to mention) that struck the earth in the previous timeline which will occur again in our generation ( Ecclesiastes 1:9, 10; 3: 15; 12: 1-8) the impact of the comet creates an immense pit in the earth ( Isaiah 5: 14; Psalms 55: 23; 94: 14; Jeremiah 48:44; Matthew 12:11; Revelation 11:7; Revelation 20:1). The 144,000 mentioned in Revelation 14 are the ones who escape the effects of the comet impact that destroys all life on earth ( Isaiah 1:9; Ezekiel 12:16).