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Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. (verse 7 Jesus said)- Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye MUST be born again.

Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.(Not because he is a Jew)

Galations 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham BELIEVED God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

FAITH IS NOT WHO YOU ARE BLACK, WHITE, NATIONALITY HAS NO EFFECT ON BEING A HEIR WITH CHRIST BUT BY GRACE WE ARE SAVED BY/THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST

Why the statement of psam 89vs23

Arlene, you are not alone with these problems, my Wife and I are both 70 now and both have the same things going on in our lives! It is awful but it is all in the way you handle them. I would have never though in my life that we would be in the mental shape we are right now. I will pray for you and do your best to take hold of your life and change it! God will help you! Ask God for help and you take charge of your life and the way your mind is working, you can do it! Prayers going up for you my friend!!

Are you wondering about James 2:3? The way I understand it is you shouldn't judge people based on their outer appearance, but by who they are on the inside.

Are you wondering about James 2:2-4? The way I understand that verse is don't look at the outside of a person and treat them based on that. Instead, you should look at the heart of a person.

Why don't I feel any thing but sorrow and disappointment in my heart doesn't stop hurting

i'm trying to learn more about the bible and it's not easy when you're putting everything i can into the word of God and I know he is real and i have question that i need to understand so please can you break it down for me so I can get more understnading please thank you

He's speaking hypothetically - "For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;" - key words being "For if".

That part of the chapter talks about if a rich and poor man came to your house, and you treat the rich man well and the poor man poorly, then "Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?" I'm not fully sure of the literal meaning of that verse, but it seems to mean if you did that you'd be judging people based on their outer appearance instead of who they are inside, and changing how you treat them based on that, which would be a mistake.

what is he saying in come in And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:

I dont understand is he saying the poor be under his footstool is the poor less than a man in gay clothing . I think I am missing something .

Just my thoughts: I don't believe there's any prohibition in the Bible to 'celebrating' or even just acknowledging holidays created by men (governments). Even Christmas & Easter, which we know, have their roots in paganism, but has been 'christianized' to remember the Lord in His Birth, Death & Resurrection. Each one has to decide in his/her own heart what they consider as acceptable, proper Christian belief & practise. It's when you get into countries that do not have a Judeo/Christian basis of government or values, then the believers in those countries may get their holidays as time off work as others do, but should not participate in their celebrations. The Hindus & Muslims have their specific holidays which are rooted deeply in their religion & practises, so it won't be correct for the Christian to identify with those; however, many do.

The early Church, as we read in the New Testament, often met together for fellowship, ministry from the Word & the breaking of bread. At this time, as I picture it, they would have found in & during their fellowship meal, the time to quieten their hearts & be led in remembrance of their Lord & Saviour, in what Christendom now celebrates as Christmas & Easter as well. So we can't judge one another in this matter - each has to be convinced in his/her own heart, respecting those who wish to acknowledge or distance themselves from any particular celebration. And I don't believe the Lord would be concerned either, rather how the Christian's heart behaves, not only in this matter, but all that comes before us requiring our thought & decision.

Would like to know what Bible Scriptures support celebrating manmade holidays is not about the most high.

"Once saved always saved? Can a saved person lose his soul?"

That depends on who saved them. If God saved them they can never be lost, if they saved themselves through their choice/free will, it stands to reason that they can then choose or will themselves to be lost.

Mark 3:28-29

Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

BUT he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath NEVER FORGIVENESS , but is in DANGER of eternal damnation:

Luke 12:10

And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

2 Timothy 3:2

For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

The Work of the Holy Spirit. John 16

"I did not say these things to you from the beginning, because I was with you. 5But now I am going to him (Father) who sent me, and none of you asks me, 'Where are you going?' 6But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper (HOLY SPIRIT) will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8And when HE comes, HE will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: 9concerning sin, because they do not believe in ME; 10concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world (Satan) is judged.

12"I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13When the Spirit of truth comes, HE will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he HEARS, he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

My comment: if the Holy Spirit is not calling you (in your born again spirit), to return to Jesus, you are in danger of blaspheming.

Mishael

hi Dahg your correct on the author of the book of James, my apology

Sorry to tell you, but Paul didn't write the book of James. It was James the Lords' brother and he was writing to Jewish believers who knew the "law" and instructing them on how to 'come out from among her my people.'

James chapter 2 is one of those corner stones in our every day christian life, if you read the rest of the chapter it becomes self explanatory that Paul is talking about having respect (judging) of persons, as to what they wear, in other words he tells us to be aware of our own prejudices to people simply because one is dressed better than the other, we could even think of such things as racial prejudices that we see in today's world, rich and poor, and so on.

James 2:4 "Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?"

James 2:6 "But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?"

James 2:8 "If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:"

James 2:9 "But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors."

James 2:26 "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."

I Believe Paul was speaking simply about the way believers and church folks, And how snooty we can get. The gay clothing is referring to nice clothing and the people that wear them getting more recognition and placement or seating. As opposed to poor clothing and people not being given the same acknowledgement, placement or even seating in church or society. I hope this helps.

What does it mean when it says in James 2:3 the poor man wearing 'gay' Clothing? I assume it means a person wearing dirty or raggedy clothes

I believe that Jesus answered this very well with the parable of the good Samaritan, Luke 10 verses 25 to 37

also James chapter 2 and Matthew chapter 5,6,7, Beatitudes and sermon on the mount,

Luke 10:25

"And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?"

Luke 10:37

"And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise."

James 2:26

"For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."

James 2:3

"And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:"

Prophecy

Acts 16:31; 1 Peter 1:8-9; Romans 10:10; Ephesians 1:12-13; Titus 3:5-6; Once a person gets saved, they will want to do what is right to honor God in any circumstance! James 2:14-26; 1 John 5:11-13

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f. Jesus' time of suffering & death came, but also His glorious resurrection, that through this Divine Act of God to redeem ALL men to Himself, both Jew & Gentile would now be acceptable to Him through faith in the efficacy of the shed Blood. Was the Sabbath & the Law still current for the Jew? As long as they lived according to the requirements of the Law, they had to abide by it & were judged by it; if they failed in one part of the given Law, they had failed in all ( Galatians 5:3, Romans 2:13, James 2:10). When the Jew put aside the Law as necessary for salvation, then the application of the Cross became real: that which was based on faith & promise, & not on the letter that only served to reveal him his sin & to draw him to Christ ( Galatians 3:24).

g. So why then is the keeping of the Sabbath still necessary? For the Jew without Christ, it remains a day of rest, as an act of obedience to God, & using that occasion for religious exercises. For the Jew & Gentile who is now "in Christ", the Sabbath, as all other Laws, have no binding, other than the importance of setting a Rest Day aside from our labours, & the Laws that reveal God's Mind & Purpose for both religious & social responsibility. If one, whether Jew, Gentile or Christian, chose to keep any of the Laws, including Sabbath, then they were bound to keep it & the whole Law - there's no option to pick & choose. And by keeping the Law to justify ourselves before God, even one Law, then precludes us from the Grace of God through Christ, because that is diametrically opposed to the meaning of the Law ( Galatians 5:4).

I must commend you for ending your prayer in the Name of Jesus. As you well know, Jesus is the Name of the Savior. Colossians 3:17 says"And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him." So by praying in the Name of Jesus, you are praying to God. Salvation came only by Jesus ( Acts 4:12; Matthew 1:21; John 17:6; Luke 3:31; John 1:14) So when you pray in the name of Jesus, you are praying to God. All of the fullness of God is in Jesus( Colossians 1:19). We are saved through Jesus--He died on the Cross and provided the means of escape for the whole world. The demons tremble at the name of Jesus( James 2:19) Again, I commend you for praying in Jesus' Name and ending your prayer in Jesus' Name. There is no other name given to us whereby we must be saved. Jesus even said that repentance and remission of sins would be preached in His name ( Luke 24:47). It is through His name that we are baptized ( Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8; Acts 2:38; Acts 3: 19) I am so grateful to find believers who still hold to the Bible. God bless you and may God keep you is my prayer. I hope I provided some insight into Name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

I don't believe that the "works" in Matthew 16:27 is mentioned by Jesus in respect to salvation. He speaks of rewards according to what "every man has done". Also, Romans 2:6. The Matthew verse could speak of the righteous who receive reward for their deeds, or to the unrighteousness, who receive nothing because their deeds were evil, coming from the darkness of their hearts ( John 3:19,20).

And then in the New Testament economy, post Cross, where salvation is granted to the sinner because of God's Grace through our faith in Christ's Work ( Ephesians 2:8-10), we're reminded that no "works" can enter into this Divine arrangement as that would negate "grace". And 'works' was primarily the obedience & dependence on the given Law of God, which could only show man's failure before God & inability to justify himself. But 'works' would include those other things that those outside the purview of the Cross, could try to use to establish his favour with God.

And then we come to the Epistle of James, which the RCs use to justify their belief & position: James 2:14-18. They maintain that both 'faith & works' are necessary for salvation, rather "for further justification". This was the point that Martin Luther, at the Reformation, opposed the RC Church on: he maintained that the believer is fully saved & justified at the moment of salvation & it's not a progressive justification, to which the RC Church stated: that justification cannot be a once only immediate act of God, but that through the Christian's walk (i.e. in a life of producing works worthy of his salvation), the believer is increasingly justified by God. If this were so, then justification comes by faith & works.

Rather, James tells us that 'works' naturally follow a true salvation, without which it proves a defective salvation. James does not hint at all that there is an on-going work of justification by 'works', rather that justification is a declaration by God of the sinner as being no longer guilty before Him.

>nothing to do with what you did or didnt do

Hi Jackie, I believe salvation absolutely has to do with what we do or don't do. The reason I believe that is the entire gospel is based on someone taking action. People who do nothing by default will go to hell. Jesus says you must believe. That is an action. He calls people to follow Him- that's an action. He calls people to repent and confess of their sin- that's an action. Loving is an action. Acting like a Christian is an action. God gave us the gift of freewill to choose, which is an action. He loved us enough to give us a choice to follow Him. Good works are not bad. I hear some people saying it's bad to be good and that seems to have the stamp of the devil on it. While it's true we're saved by grace and not by works, we don't have grace if we don't believe or follow Jesus in the first place.

It's possible you meant good works only by your comment, but my point is that our actions absolutely determine where we're going. If it didn't, Jesus would not have spent so much time telling parables about how most people will go to hell and how to avoid that, and to avoid sin, and don't be of this world. There's been false teachings spread around lately among Christians who are saying it's totally ok to sin and be in the world and that's the opposite of what the Bible says.

God bless...

James 2:17

Romans 6:15

Hebrews 10:26

Rom 7:22

Matthew 7:21

John 14:15

Matt 5:13

Matthew 7:26-27

Eph 5:5-6

Rom 11:19-23

GRACE IS UNMERITED FAVOR FROM GOD. (You didn't earn it)

Romans 10:4 - For Christ is the END OF THE LAW, for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Romans 6:14 - For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye ARE NOT under the law, but UNDER GRACE.

Romans 7:7 - What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Romans 3:31 - Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Romans 7:6 - But now WE ARE DELIVERED from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that WE SHOULD serve in newness of spirit, AND NOT in the oldness of the letter.

Galatians 3:10 - For as many as are of the works of the law are UNDER THE CURSE, for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

James 2:10 - For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Romans 7:4 - Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ;

Galatians 5:18 - But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Romans 8:1-39 - There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are IN Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 3:28 - Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by FAITH, without the deeds of the law.

* Ephesians 2:8 - For by GRACE are ye saved through FAITH; and that not of yourselves: it is the GIFT OF GOD:

This is for those who still persist in telling women that they are to be silent In Church and save all their questions for their husbands.

What if a woman is Not married, and chooses to live single like Apostle Paul?

What if the woman is saved and chooses to live within the grace of God and in the freedom that is in Christ?

Mishael

Exactly, one can not just believe for salvation. That is a demonic religion.

We must Hear the word of God Roman's 10:17, Believe it John 8 :24, Repent Luke 13:3, Confess that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, Matthew 10:32-33, Be baptized fir the remission of our sins, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, Mark 16:6, and live faithful and obedient. Matthew 10:22, Rev.2:10.

James ch 2 v 19

Thou believeth there is one God ; thou doest well : the devils also believe and tremble .

7 times devils spoke to Jesus and called him " Son of God " never God , but they know there is only One God according to James .

Matthew 4.3

Matthew 4.6

Matthew.29

Luke 4.3

Luke4.9

Luke4.41

Luke8.28

They know the truth , but do it not .

The point is that works of faith are what's really important, and it's our works and all men's works that are going to be judged not what we believe alone .

We can do nothing apart from Jesus the Son of God born in Bethlehem died on the cross for the sins of the world , raised up 3 days later seen alive by more than 500 people, taken up into heaven and coming back again as he left but in Glory ... be ready ....

The poor in spirit are the ones that admit that we desperately need a savior from our sin, Jesus Christ:

Riches profit not in the day of wrath: but righteousness delivereth from death. ( Proverbs 11:4)

Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David. ( Isaiah 55:1-3)

Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word. ( Isaiah 66:1-2)

Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: ( Colossians 1:26-28)

Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? ( James 2:5)

written to the believing jews before the revelation of the mysteries given to paul by THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. The disciples of apostles believed pauls gospel. Check out ken johnson a solid christian historian.