Discuss James 2 Page 16

Well first, a saved Christian isn't sinless. No one's sinless. That's why you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ because only his righteousness can get you to heaven. And James's listeners were Christians ( James 2:1) "My brethren, do not hold the faith of OUR Lord Jesus Christ, etc." This sort of statement can only be made to Jewish believers

Also, I never said no faith will save you. But aside from that let me talk about "faith without works is dead". When something is dead does that mean it's non-exsistant? No. In context, it means it's unprofitable or inactive. The presence of faith is not in question, remember these are believers. Salvation is done with. Now he's talking about service.

Adam, I'll try to answer as best I can but I have limited Characters so my answers won't be as detailed as I want them to be. First, James isn't talking about how to be saved.You'll notice James calls his audience "brethren". He was talking to already saved people about rewards/Helping a brother in need/being justified in mans eyes/maturing your faith etc. And the demons believe "there is one God" (see James 2:19) not they believe the Gospel(which is 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 the truth that saves us). And if you've believed the Gospel. You've repented. You've changed your mind. You went from trusting in personal goodness/works/religion to Jesus alone. And will go to heaven when you die.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH the will of my Father which is in heaven
Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and (do not) the things which I say?
James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? verse 22,23, 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
If you will read the book of James it will help.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Wish this was more helpful. Sorry

C Lewis - I agree with you we are saved by Grace through faith. James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH the will of my Father which is in heaven. ( 2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:) Read ( Matthew 25) its all good not just the verse that makes us feel good.

Sin is sin, you've broken one law you've broken them all, the law is like a 10 link chain holding you over the abyss, does it matter which link breaks? I think the lake of fire will be as hot for Satan's followers as it is for Satan.

To a believer it's difficult to understand why, someone can fear & yet not follow._._.
Luke 8:27-37
James 2:19

1 John 3:4 Sin is the transgression of the law, Romans 3:20 for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Romans 3:31 Do we make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea we establish the law. Romans 7:12 The law is holy, and the commandment is holy. Acts 17:30 In times of ignorance,God winks at,but now commands every man to repent. James 2:17 Faith without works is dead.Our part"works"is being obedient

So this entire OSAS belief stands on misinterpreting that one verse while disregarding the numerous other Bible verses? You incorrectly assumed my beliefs on grace BTW. In your view if Christians are saved regardless why do you believe Jesus said to keep his commandments? What is your exact reason for being obedient if there's no incentive to do so and zero consequence for not? James 2:26 Have you prayed and asked God if your view is true? 2 Peter 2 says what happens to disobedient people including Christians who turn away (verse 21).

Romans 1:3-4 tells me in has been declared and settled in heaven that Jesus is the Son if God. Your way too late and way too out of context to place another perverted gospel called the trinity. That all started from the Roman Catholic church by using out of context scriptures. Bug deal you believe in one God so does the devil James 2:19. Only difference is devils tremble while man just pervets

I do not belive in Jesus I believe Jesus which means I believe his words. The devils believes in and trembles while man just perverts and does not tremble James 2:19. Jesus is no longer around to be followed he gave us his words as we know Jesus no more after the flesh 2nd Cor 5:16-17. I am after the cross. Before the cross and after the cross are two different things in the bible.

Don't know where you get your funny teaching from because none of it is bible. My bible says faith without works is dead. James 2:14-26. I am not saved by works I stay saved by works. 100 conditional love as the words, "If, whosoever, he that, him that" etc. Jesus chooses whosoever and not everybody. He is real picky. He called the foolish thing Paul. Now that Paul got saved he cleaned up.

Devils believe in Jesus and God James 2:19 but they sure don't believe them and their words. Ask them 7 tv preacher selling you their garbage. 2nd Peter 2:1-3. Difference between man and devils is devil tremble while man just perverts and does not tremble.

My bible says faith without works is dead. It takes works to remain saved. I was not saved by works, but now that I am saved we stay saved by works. James 2:14-26. Jesus told us to strive and that takes works. Paul told us to fight, run, flee etc. Action verbs and words.

James 2:14-26 he says in verse 26 that they are connected the same as life and breath are. Matthew 5:46,47 is not works it is natural carnal man. Verse 44 is works and without faith it is impossible to want to do those works. Because they seem foolish in the eyes of carnal man.

To believe what you just said you'd have to disregard so many parts of the Bible. Just one of the scriptures above proves it, but it doesn't stop there- many scriptures saying no one has extra privileges or salvation above anyone else. Since you're accusing others of believing lies what if you're the one sharing falsehoods? The devil wants to divide people and spread lies. Romans 2:11, Acts 10:34, 1 Peter 1:17, James 2:1-4, Mark 16:15.

I don't understand your line "thru our black messiah way". Please explain.

The law is perfect but it must now be done in THRU our black messiah way. Not the way the churches are putting it read and let TMHIGHNY bring understanding to you We must have faith and we must have works the two go together we must know why are we having grace for grace isn t a license to sin grace is a period to get ourselves right and follow the law in doing the fruits of the spirit Galatians

Bible says if you break one law you are guilty of then all I don't read in his word he's going say you did this but not that. The law is a whole he will deliver justice as he sees fit. Yes he is a just God not us. I don't know what he'll do. I've been called to trust and obey.

studying the text. there are severities in greater transgressions then others,I dont believe a mans punishment for coveting his Neighbor wife verses Hitler's slaughtering 16 million jews desevers equal punishment,we have a just God,I also believe in concerns of the Law'sin'is the same from one law to the next Law to all the Laws sin is sin but dont be decieved that if you break one your guilty all

In James 2:10 our father highlights his law and down plays nothing as we some time do, being a transgressor of the law, if you break one all have been broke his stops the cherry picking and made it the whole law. Is 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

Very True Rupthurn, Salvation is indeed a Free Gift and it is impossible to please God without Faith Hebrews11:6 but Faith without doing God's Good Works is dead James 2:17-18 and Mathew 25:31-46 but not meaning those works motivated by the Carnal Flesh but by our Love for God and for others. Christian Love Always Anne or as many call me now Grannie Annie.

When a Christian dies, James 2:26 the body returns to dust from where it came. Gen 3:19 The soul and spirit go immediately to be with Christ in Heaven to await the resurrection of the body. 2 Cor 5:8 In the resurrection our body, soul and spirit are reunited in a body like Christ has - a glorious body that will never die. I Cor 15:44 Read Chapter Phil 3:21 King James Version

Christ alone take us home. by the blood of cross . HE died us who belive in him. god rose from the dead. to heaven

Part of walking in grace is loving others, avoiding sin Romans 12:2 not falsely assuming you have a license to sin. Satan wants people to think they don't have to live as a Christian, don't have to try. Unfortunately Christians can buy into the lie, even denounce Jesus, based on a false assumption that they're already saved and can do whatever they want. Satan wants people to ignore James 2:14-26.

Grace vs works is a very common debate. James 2:14-26 and others show that works are important, likely beyond just a reward in heaven. It calls your faith 'dead' without works. There are no scriptures saying that people with no faith or dead faith enter heaven. Most people will go to hell wide is the gate . Christians who denounce Christ or commit blasphemy surely should be concerned.

Judas did not go to heaven. Believing is not the same as SAVING faith. The devil believes in Jesus too and we know that Jesus 'prepared' the place of torment for 'the devils and his angles'. James 2:19 clarifies. "Thou believest that there is one God thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." Jesus said it would have been better if Judas was never born, He called Judas the devil.

..like grace to pay a bill - grace is time between either your death, or the end of the earth to have as much faith as possible that will lead to being a righteous person before judgement, which will occur 7 days after the end of earth as it is today. ..again james 2:20-22. You can't know God unless you do his commandments!!!!! 1 John 2:3.

You have to have faith which will lead to true works. Without eventual works, you have no true righteousness.. James 2:20-22.

Salvation is in following the word of god by the way of the messiah.. Hebrews 9:15. ..for eternal inheritance, by way of following his commandments Matthew 19:16. words of advice, you should willfully attempt to follow the words of TMH, with faith and works, james 2:20-22, by the way of the messiah Colosians 3:17. Your judgement will be based on faith, works, and your acceptance of the savior.