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Part 2 NENE. Now James is addressed to the twelve tribes. See verse 1. We know that there is a doctrinal change after Philemon because there is a distinguishing of Jews and gentiles again. Hence the twelve tribes. Under Paul's church age doctrine, there is no difference when you are saved Gal 3:28. James is addressed doctrinally to the Jews in the tribulation. See Revelation 7:4 for example. Now the Bible can 't contradict so we read in James 2:14 that justification is by works then in Romans 3:24,4:24, and 5:1 Justification by faith. Which is it? Paul is our spokesman for today Rom 11:15,16:4, 1Tim 2:7,2 Tim 1:11,2:7,etc. So for the church age justification is by faith alone Eph 2:8-9. After the church is caught out 1 Thess 4:16-18 the Holy Spirit will again deal much like the O.T. and salvation can be lost again and one must endure to be saved. See Matt 24:13, Heb 3:6,14, etc. You don 't have to endure to be saved in the church age, Christ will make sure you endure 1 Cor 1:8 and you are sealed Eph 1:18,4:30. Hope this helps.

The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, One Baptism meaning One way to be baptized in water. In Matthew 3:11-17 is where John baptized Jesus in water as a demonstration for us to follow if you notice Jesus told John for thus it becometh us to fulfill all righteousness and this was done with Water. Acts 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the Water, both Philip and the eunuch and he baptized him. 1Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: faith without works is dead James 2:14-17 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Not by faith only James 2:24 the Bible does say we shall by faith but it says the Just not the Unjust can live by faith because they are still lost until they obey then they can live by faith .

Hello Jacob read James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? not alone, Vs.18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. And yes the Bible does state that we shall live by faith but notice in Romans 1: 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The JUST shall live by faith. The word JUST means the people of God and in Proverbs 11:7 When a wicked man dieth, his expectation shall perish: and the hope of unjust men perisheth. UNJUST means people who do not walk with Jesus 2Peter 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: The Law was written for our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ and yes we are saved by grace after receiving the Holy Ghost. God Bless!

James 2:26 throws out the doctrine of Dichotomy! For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. KJV The body is born with a soul and is alive physically, but dead spiritually. You notice it didn 't mentioned the soul, it is too obvious! Spirit doesn 't dwell in dead bodies. They have to be alive and active to do good or evil. Then satan and demons would be eradicated if that we 're so. I therefore am persuaded of the Trichotomy doctrine.

It think it is analogus to the Tree faith and its fruit good works . For just 'proclaiming ' one has faith and bearing no tangible evidence is of no use. The Lord himself tells us to 'test ' the spirit by its fruit. God does indeed look for the fruit and then cuts it down if it has not borne any. So i think, yeah, of course....you can 't speak of doing good without authentic Faith in the first place. But its more like a call to Action. In short, 2 Cor 5:7 the benchmark .. James 2:17 the sure test for far sighted vision! :-

The scriptures says without faith it is impossible to please God so of course without faith you can 't inherit eternal life, especially if your still in sin and Jesus who is holy.. he wants nothing to do with sin unless a man or women repents and is born of water and spirit then they will receive eternal life.

The sabbath was for Israel because they require a sign 1 Cor 1:22. Moreover also I gave them my SABBATHS to be a SIGN between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. Ez 20:12. And madest known unto them they holy SABBATH, and commandedst them precepts, statutes, and laws, by thy hand of Moses thy servant: Neh 9:14. If you keep one point of the law you have to keep it all, James 2:10. Do you work on the Sabbath? Death then see Ex 35:2. Do you start your car on the Sabbath? That 's starting a fire on the Sabbath. Death for you then Ex 35:3. Thank the Lord for dying on the cross for our sins. He kept the whole because we couldn't do it. Trust Him not yourself. Wonder why Paul the apostle to the Gentiles Rom 11:13, left out the Sabbath in Romans 13:9. Verse 8 says :for he that love another has fulfilled the law. Whaaaaat? Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God and every one that love is born of God, and known God.

Hello John: The word of God is written to the saved, those individuals who have put on the name of Jesus Christ by following Acts 2: 38. Paul is speaking to the Roman church. In verse 17 the word just refers to the saved. If you read verse 16 you will get that understanding. This is not saying that people in general do not have faith. A person can have faith but alone it is dead. A person has to have works to make it alive. Just to believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and not follow Acts 2: 38, a person is still lost. The Bible states in James 2: 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone . The devils believe and tremble, James 2: 19 Thou believest that there is one God thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. So just believing is not enough. Just to say I believe in my heart and accept God this alone does not save you.

I rewrote Part 1 of 3: Part 1 of 3: Hello Jacob: James 2: 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? The scripture is still valid, because it is the truth and the word of God, John 17: 17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth . The 12 men were not saved, this was the purpose of Paul rebaptizing them and laying his hands on them. It also shows the importance of have Acts 2: 38.

The best demonstration of love is by GIVING, God demonstrated His love by Giving, therefore we can 't prove the love of God without our giving and sacrifices.

Have not the faith in our Lord of glory, with respect of person. We must Love all people the same. For faith without works is dead. Abraham believed God and offered Isaac. Thus became a friend of God. We too must believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and turn from sin. Love thy neighbor as thyself is the completion of the law of liberty.

God will treat us as we have treated others

This scripture gives perspective to the subject of tithing and the new testament christian for me . Pastors lean heavily on tithing the tenth but forget if you 're incorporating this tithe then the others must be included or you have offended the entire law.

We can not keep the law and Jesus knew it. he gave us two important commandments. 1 . And thou shall love the lord thy God with all thy hear, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength this is the first. 2 love thy neighbor as thyself. there is none other commandment greater than these. mark 12 30 and 31.

It cannot be disputed that oppression is directly linked to lack of love and respect for another human being. Any person who has financial riches and sees another person in need of food, clothing and shelter, and looks the other way is non other than a vicious abuser. How can a rich person who shuts his or her heart to the cries of the poor, talk about love and respect? Such a person is self centered and most certainly evil. Facing the truth, there are many of these who also call themselves Christians not knowing what perfect love is all about because they reject the truth of God 's Word for the sake of money.

the biggest lesson of James ch2 is this What James said about faith without works is dead has caused a lot of confusion among some people what James is saying doesn t contradict what Paul said in Romans Ch 4 here s what James is talking about your faith in Jesus Christ can only be seen by your actions how you live your works salvation is by Grace and faith alone as Paul taught in Romans 4 and Ephesians Ch 2 8 9 and many others places there s only one path to heaven Titus 3 5 John 14 6 John 1 12 meritorious works and ordinances are an outward show of what has taken place in our hearts that only God can see because of his Son s sacrifice on the cross of Calvary James Ch 2 what the world sees and other Believers Romans 4 what only God can see

I think Paul is saying that even as sinners we can still be a believer in Christ Jesus He said even when we do good evil is always present with us Which is to say our faith alone is not going to save us so we must put the work in also To say we have Faith in God and yet we dont patiently wait on him is not putting out trust to work He said ask and it shall be given knock and the door will be opened

When a person is dead, there is no animating force, or "spirit", in him, and he accomplishes nothing. Mere professed faith is just lifeless and useless as a dead body. If we have real faith, though, it will move us to godly action.

If one refuses to be merciful in their dealing with others, they will also fail to receive mercy. This shows that we need to treat others the way we would like to be treated and show compassion to our fellow man.

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(Verse 10) "A person who keeps all of the laws except one is as guilty as the person who has broken all of God's laws.") This is a parabolic statement. James is showing us how impossible it is for a sinful man to live up to God's perfect standards. Because even if you think you kept nine perfectly (which nobody has), you are still missing the mark because you missed out on one.

But the fact is, nobody has kept even one. Just thinking about breaking a law is the same as doing it. "As a man thinks in his heart, so is he." That's why Jesus said to the self righteous Jews, "None of you obey the law of Moses! In fact, you are trying to kill me."

Too, James is showing us that breaking any one law shows your intent to break all God's laws, and to over rule God in everything. "We will not have this man to rule over us." ( Luke 19:14) This is what Adam intended when he broke God's very first command. In other words, inclusive in any one command is God's intent and purpose for all his commands.

This is why God saves us by faith. That is, if we depend on our ability to keep the law, no one will ever be saved.

Presumably, Jesus here is merely stating a scientific fact, rather than suggesting that it would be desirable for us all to have such faith.
Because St John says something similar, but in the context "Yes, faith can do anything, but it is worthless without love" (Charity, caritas, love):
"Though I have all Faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have no Charity, I am nothing." 1 Cor. xiii. 2.
James says that faith without works is worthless, but John's p***age implies that neither lead to salvation, but love does:
James 2:14 "What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good[a] is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead".

this rily touches my heart.

I like how versus 18 tops off this chapter with a cherry: "And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace".

Where are mind is set on; determines, what he will allow us to go through, or what he will bless us with; to help us be like him, and react like him in every situation we face in are lives.

It's like God is saying to us " If you want me, than you will study the lamp that i have given to your feet, and then on your own power, try to follow it, without giving up". "And then will I pour on you, my Spirit, and be ONE with you.

It's like, in are prayer's we ask God to drive for us, in are metiphoric prayers to God, but as James 2:26 says; are faith without works is dead.

James 2:14-26
New King James Version (NKJV)

Faith Without Works Is Dead

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

Comments on Galatians Chapter 3:10. “FOR AS MANY AS ARE OF THE WORKS OF THE LAW ARE UNDER THE CURSE: FOR IT IS WRITTEN, CURSED IS EVERY ONE THAT CONTINUETH NOT IN ALL THINGS WHICH ARE WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW TO DO THEM.” I think the whole chapter presents many challenges in understanding correctly our relationship with God and our fellow human beings. If understood incorrectly it can lead to unnecessary pain and suffering, despair, even destruction. Here is what I mean (true story): A young family, with two children; the wife, a musically talented lady in her upper twenty’s, the daughter of a minister of a “particular” church, and the husband, a little older but not wiser. At one point, the young husband feeling “freed from the Law” commits adultery. And of course, since there was no breaking of the Law, (the law being “nailed to the cross”), he did not feel guilty, and didn’t make much of it. But when his wife found out, she decided to divorce him: not because he broke the seventh commandment, but because of “infidelity”… When she told me what happened, and her plans to divorce, I was shocked. I tried my hardest to convince her not to do it. I talked to her about forgiveness in Christ, I asked her to consider the future of her kids without their dad, but to no avail. I finally mentioned God’s commandment found in Matthew 19:6 which says: “… What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.” When she heard that, she said: “Brother Daniel, I can’t keep the Law! I’ve got to go through with the divorce; I don’t want to be under the curse of the Law, there’s nothing worse than that! But God will take care of me and the kids…” So, here they were: four people, saved and “free from the curse of the Law”, and very much cursed by the misinterpretation of one bible verse. Now, is this what the Apostle Paul is teaching in verse 10? Absolutely not! Here, in order to build his case against circumcision, the apostle is quoting the text from Deuteronomy 28:15. “… IF THOU WILT NOT HEARKEN UNTO THE VOICE OF THE LORD THY GOD, TO OBSERVE TO DO ALL HIS COMMANDMENTS AND HIS STATUTES WHICH I COMMAND THEE THIS DAY; THAT ALL THESE CURSES SHALL COME UPON THEE, AND OVERTAKE THEE:” And from verse 16 to verse 68, God pronounces 53 curses against those WHO WILL NOT “observe all his commandments and his statutes”: Thus, (Paul) is implying that if you want to be circumcised in order to be “right with God”, then you need to keep the rest of the “Sacrificial and Ceremonial Laws”. A short overview of the Laws given to the people of Israel by God looks like this: 1. Religious Laws: A) Moral, B) Regarding Tithes and Offerings, C) Sacrificial, D) Ceremonial, A) Moral: a) The Ten Commandments (TTC) b) TTC Expanded B) Tithes and a) The Tenth Offerings, b) First fruits, c) Miscellaneous offerings, C) Sacrificial: a) Sin offerings, b) Peace offerings, c) Burnt offerings, d) Continual offerings, e) Drink offerings, f) Altars, g) Miscellaneous furniture, D) Ceremonial: a) Regarding the Levite priests, b) Regarding the people, c) The First Born, d) The Covenant of circumcision, e) Regarding the Temple/Tabernacle, f) The Feasts, etc. 2. Civil Laws: relating to the rights of the people, the conduct and relations between members of the family and of the community, including the king. 3. Criminal Laws: Same as above Now, the SACRIFICIAL AND CEREMONIAL LAWS make up the body of Law which Apostle Paul calls “the schoolmaster” which pointed to Christ: Galatians 3:24 “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.” Today we have no use for circumcision, sin offerings, burnt offerings or any Ceremonial Laws: We have Christ; the Type met the Anti-type. After the Roman Conquest, the Jewish CIVIL AND CRIMINAL LAWS had no “teeth”, and they were subject to the Roman Laws. No one could implement any of them, except with the approval of the Roman Governor, including Christ’s crucifixion. So, today the only valid Laws remaining are: The Moral Laws, including the Ten Commandments which Apostle James calls “The Royal Law” ( James 2:8), and Laws regarding the Tithes and Offerings. In support of this Apostle Paul makes the following statements in Romans Chapter 7: (7) “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. (12) WHEREFORE THE LAW IS HOLY, AND THE COMMANDMENT HOLY, AND JUST, AND GOOD. (16) If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. (22) FOR I DELIGHT IN THE LAW OF GOD AFTER THE INWARD MAN: (25) … SO THEN WITH THE MIND I MYSELF SERVE THE LAW OF GOD;” Amen.

This is what is helping me through my storm! It helps me have hope and know that God will not go back from his words. James 2:12-13 - So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. So I know He will do as long as I do my part and it is me to trust and have faith in him.

Grace is not a ticket to sin. Grace is the New Testament or grace covenant. What, shall we continue in sin that grace may abound, God forbid. In Ephesians 2, the works that are spoken of are the works of the Law (Old Testament); offering goats and bulls and the keeping of holy days, etc.. Jesus said unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the Scribes and the Pharisee’s (Old Testament), you shall in no wise inter into the kingdom of God. Romans 12, I beseech you brethren that you present your bodies a living sacrifice holy and acceptable unto the lord which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind (New Testament). Galatians: Be not deceived; God is not mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap. If ye sow unto the flesh ye shall of the flesh reap corruption. But if ye sow unto the spirit, ye shall of the spirit reap eternal life, (New Testament). Ephesians 5, For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God; that also is in the New Testament. Jesus said Enter ye in at the straight gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat; New Testament. James 2:17, Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also… all that is in the New Testament.
Don't let someone fool into the broad and easy way with his/her greasy Grace doctrine. Jesus said sell all you have, deny yourself and come follow me.

I am not less of a sinner than anyone else, I am the biggest sinner that I know, and so is every sinner. We all need to accept Jesus Christ as our Saviour, and have faith in Jesus Christ alone (thereby forsaking all hopeless attempts at our own self-righteousness to gain entrance into Heaven). This verse goes well together with Romans 3:10 which reads "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:".