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WE humanity as all men have been born by the will of some man....Its only our new innerman which is the H.G. The Spirit of Christ that is born by the will of God in us via his good seed....Conception takes place when we hear and understand his voice a spritual pregnancy results....My Lil Children of whom travail in birth again Gal 4 :19...till Christ is formed in you.. Thats what faith is a spritual pregnancy....Thus there is a child on the horizon ...Which is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen....The fetus is the H.G. The Child of Promise...Thats y he always refers to himself as the Son of Man...Mankind has to bring forth fruit unto God... Romans 7:4...Thus there is a baby Christ in our near future....And its this baby Christ the N.C. in his blood that is the Elect and the Church is the Elect lady...Its a bride and bridegroom scenario...Which is gonna result in an Israel of God that is gonna be as the stars of heaven...That was the great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Thats y Jesus was saying blessed are them that follow me in the Regeneration the multiplication of his seed...Thus the sower and his precious seed...The contents of that book of life in the fathers right hand...The book of life of the lamb...( his blood etc )..That N.C.

Remember Jesus said the good seed are the Children of the Kingdom....Which are the babes and sucklings...Thats y Jesus said a lil Child is gonna lead them which is the H.G....And thats y the spirit of truth cannot speak of himself he is just a spritual infant....Thats y Isaiah tells us of the women with Child and she that travail with Child a great company... Isaiah 11... ... Jeremiah 30:6 Why do i see all men in travail and birth pains...Remember Jeremiah told God he was just a lil Child he cd not speak... Jeremiah 30 :6....Symbolic of the manchild in Rev 12 that is gonna rule all nations....One is neva outa of context when lifting up that N.C.at Calvary in his Blood..

Actually the bible does teach that all will be saved in Jeremiah 31:34....This New Covenant is all inclusive....Not like the old covenant ...I will KNOW them all from the least to the greatest...This KNOW them all is an intimacy with humanity resulting in a birth of Christ in everyone....And Isaiah saw this intimacy this KNOWLEDGE with humanity as the waters of God covering the earth as the waters covering the seas....The seas imply humanity thats everybody....If i be lifted up (The blood) of that NEW COVENANT I will draw ALL men unto me.... 1st Cor 15:28...All thing are gonna be subject to Christ and God will be ALL in ALL

...And this is the reason that Jeremiah saw ALL men in travail and birth pains Jeremiah 30:6...Everybody is gonna be bornagain in the end....27 times the prophets saw this world in travail and birth pains....Thus the whole creation waits for the manifestation of the sons of God....The Children of Promise... the remnant of his brethren...an Israel of God...The babes and sucklings that are gonna be born to humanity via his precious seed ...Simply b/c that GREAT PROMISE was that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of Heaven...This New Covenant is All inclusive...Thats y John saw a number that no man cd number standing b/f the throne of God...clothed with white raiment...They were all washed in the blood of the lamb....

......When he fed the multitudes he didn't cull not 1 single one of them...he fed them all with a childs lunch the Child being symblolic of the H.G....The manchild that is gona rule ALL NATIONS with his rod of iron....Not only did Moses rule all Israel but he fed all Israel with his glorious Rod...We gotta keep in mind that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us...Thats indicative of everybody... Romans 10:20 And i was found of them that sought me NOT and made manifest unto them that asked NOT after me...Thats indicative of everybody...If i be lifted up I will draw all men unto me...The lords arm is not too short to save ALL

Hi Gigi.

Not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for but here's a few of many references of a future Kingdom here on earth.

Revelation 5:10

And have made us kings and priests to our God;

AND WE SHALL REIGN ON THE EARTH.

Psalm 2:6-8

"Yet I have set My King

On My holy hill of Zion." "I will declare the decree:

The LORD has said to Me,

'You are My Son,

Today I have begotten You.

Ask of Me, and I will give You

The nations for Your inheritance,

And the ends of the earth for Your possession.

Daniel 2:34-35

You watched while a stone was cut out without hands, which struck the image on its feet of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces. Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold were crushed together, and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; the wind carried them away so that no trace of them was found. And the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and FILLED THE WHOLE EARTH.



Zechariah 14:9-11.

Zechariah 14:16-19

And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain. If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

Matthew 6:10

Your kingdom come.

Your will be done

"ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN."

Matthew 5:5.

Matthew 25:31-34.

Isaiah 2:2.

Jeremiah 30:10.

Ezekiel 34:25-31.

Daniel 2:44.

Micah 4:1-2.

Zechariah 8:1-3.

Revelation 11:5.

God bless you.

Goodnight.

Spencer Gbu but you are in false doctrine...Simply b/c you fail to believe in the New Covenant that Jesus gave us at Calvary in his Blood...Remember the blood that New Covenant...If i be lifted up ( his blood ) I will draw ALL men unto me....And his father backs it up saying After thoses (2 Days 2 k yrs.) I will make a New Covenant NOT according to the Covenant that i made with their fathers...I WILL KNOW THEM ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST...And their sins and iniquities will i remember no more...This New Covenant is all inclusive...Thats y Jesus is saying if i be lifted up i will draw ALL men unto me...And Jeremiah 30:6 He saw ALL MEN in travail and birth pains...Everybody is gona be bornagain of that incorruptible seed the contents of the book that Jesus wrote with his own blood...Thats y Joel said God was gonna pour out of his Spirit on ALL FLESH..IN 2:28...Your sons and daughter are gonna prophecy don't you see he wants the whole family...Everybody....What kind of a God wd save half a family...When Jesus fed the multitudes he fed everybody....he didn't cull not 1 person...He makes his rain and his son/sun to shine on everybody...And they shall ALL be taught of God...All...In Adam we all die but in CHRIST we will ALL live..ty Jesus

Here is the kicker..We will all die according to our old adamic nature which is in rank with satan, mans carnal mind is the very enemy of God...But we will all live according to His blood...I will Draw ALL men unto me..That N.C

The curse of Adam was applied to every man that every lived no exceptions...Thus the blessing and the blood of Christ Jesus has to be applied to everyman,....When they saw him on the Mount ALL of his raiment was white as snow...There is no fuller on earth that can whiten us sinners like his blood...And we are his raiment simply b/c he says i was naked in need of raiment and you clothe me ...And Isaiah said he wd stain ALL of his raiment...With his blood God so loved the world that he gave his only son.

Hiya John Good Question....In my mind i see this Gen 1...to replenish as when the sower of the good seed will go forth and sow his precious seed in humanity...The field being the world...God had this replenishing in his mind when he made that great Promise that Christ was gona be multiplied as the stars of heaven....As Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains Jeremiah 30:6 ....For that heavenly Birth....As the mystery of the Kingdom of God is Christ in you and I...Us sinners that need to be bornagain of Jesus's incorruptible seed...Via the seeds of that Book that New Covenant that Jesus wrote with his own blood...Thus there is gonna be an Israel of God...Which are spirits as Jesus said that which is born of the spirit are spirits Which answer to the Children of Promise the H.G....Thus our new hearts and new Spirits...I will pour out of my Spirit on all flesh... Rev 11:15...This is the replenishing.. The Kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of our lord and his Christ...And he shall reign for ever and ever..No more Adamic nature...No more stain and spot of Adam...What Jesus did at Calvary is gonna replenish all of humanity...If i be lifted up i will DRAW ALL MEN UNTO ME....OK Lemme go. When Jesus said its finished this whole world is gonna be replenished...

Hiya Susanella...GBU...But the way I read it is...This New Covenant is an ALL INCLUSIVE covenant... Jeremiah 31:34...I will make a new Covenant with the house of Israel and Judah not according to the covenant i made with their fathers etc...I will KNOW them ALL from the least to the greatest...This KNOW them all is an intimacy with humanity as God so loved the world....And Jesus says if i be lifted up, the shedding of his blood on calvary initiating that New COVENANT I will draw ALL MEN UNTO ME...Told his disciples go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every CREATURE...And his words cannot return unto him void..

"This Know them all is an intimacy with humanity" That is gonna result in a birth of Christ in everyman....As Jeremiah 30:6 he saw all men in travail and birth pains..All men...You have not chosen me but i have chosen you...While we were yet sinners Christ died for every man...I was found of them that sought me not and made manifest unto them that asked not after me...Thats y Jesus says he has to KNOW us...Thus that tree of KNOWLEDGE....And Isaiah speaks of a Knowledge that is gona cover the earth as the waters covers the seas...Thus a 2 nd Flood that is gona kill all of humanity according to our old adamic nature...Man's carnal minds which is the very enemy of God...If thy right hand offend thee cut it off...As our God is a consuming fire that is gona consume mans adamic nature...Thus our new hearts and new spirts answers to a New Earth and New Heavens...When Jesus began his ministry he was preaching i come to bring fire on the earth...Which is his baptism of the H.G. n fire..ok lemme go..And Joel 2:28 speaks of God pouring out of his spirit on ALL flesh...Thats y he said the harlots and the whoremongers will go into the Kingdom of heaven b/f you....I will KNOW them all from the least to the greatest...And if ya be in Christ then are you Abrahams seed and heirs according to that Promise of multiplication of Christ seed...The H.G.The Promise.

Alex1939...William this Matthew 21:16 is prophetic of the Manchild the H.G. that has to be born in us...Rev.12:5 she brought forth a manchild that is gonna rule all nations...Thats y the sower wants to sow his precious seed in our hearts that we might birth a baby Christ the Son of Man...The H.G...That Children of Promise...Thats y he cannot speak of him self simply b/c he has to be born in us via the seed of the sower, he is just an infant spiritually speaking...Jesus said unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child ( the H.G. ) that Child of Promise That New BIRTH you will in no wise enter there in...We need a new heart and a new spirit a new innerman...Which is the H.G...Our biggest enemy is our carnal minds...And nothin can still this demon without Christ in us...Which is the wheat from his good seed but satans sows a Tare in us ...Then we are in a war with satan...Its gonna be Kingdom against Kingdom...The only way we can win this war is by the babes and sucklings...which are baby Christ, Jesus offspring from his good seed the living word that is gonna be sown in humanity the opening of the BOOK ...The Kingdom does not come till the woman births the manchild the H.G.....Read Rev.12v10

......The world is gonna have a Baby....Thats y Jeremiah 30:6 Tells us all men are gonna travail in birth pains...The Child is the H.G. THE Children of PROMISE...I will Multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven...Thus the Children of PROMISE the H.G... Joel 2:28 I will pour out of my spirit on all flesh...Jeremiah says he saw all men with their hands on their loins as woman in travail with birth pains... Jeremiah 30:6...The Child is the H.G. that heavenly Jacob that is now in a warfare with the Tares...Satans seed...A time of Jacobs troubles...Jacob was the 3 rd person but the H.G. is also the 3 rd person...The wheat Jesus's seed the H.G.

But these things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto babes.... Matthew 11:25...William this is for spritually minded.

Psalm 74

We see the theme here as in much of the Book of Lamentations where God appears to have cast His presence from His people. When we get to chapter 3; verse 31 He promises not to "cast them off forever." Isaiah 26:20 describes God Himself stating that He had turned away for a short time but would return with mercy. Again; the final prophetic application would appear to be in Revelation (or the time of Jacob's trouble in Jeremiah 30:7).

The "perpetual desolations" in verse 3 of this Psalm remind us of the "Abomination of Desolation" when the Temple is overtaken by Antichrist much as it was with Antiochus Epiphanes earlier in Daniel 9:25-27 and quoted by Christ starting in Matthew 24:15.

Verse 8 is as far as I know the only passage in scriptures mentioning the word synagogues; here they were being burned up by the enemy; likely prophetic of the Babylonians and of course the end times. Blasphemy as seen in Revelation 13 is mentioned in verse 18. The prophets being seen no more could refer ahead to the intertestamental times or again when there is vision sought in the end times by false prophets who predicted peace; peace when there is no peace ( Jeremiah 6:14).

Verse 20 implores God to "have respect unto the Covenant" as related; no doubt to the Promised Land. Once again the poor and needy are sought out as those who the Lord will restore; and the Psalm ends with a plea not to forget those enemies and their "tumult". Surely God will come soon; but will there be any faith on the earth when that Day comes? (See Luke 18:8).

Alex1939...Alexis M...May i give ya my view of Isaiah 60:22...A lil one shall become a 1000 and small one a strong nation...I the lord will hasten it in its time...This is the multiplication of Christ Jesus via his seed the word sown in humanity...The Sower and his seed...The Children of Promise...An Israel of God is that strong nation... Gal 6:16...There has to be an Israel of God via the seed of Jesus...I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven... Gen 22:16...Which are spirits the H.G many ...The Children of Promise that are gonna be as the stars of heaven in multitudes...Thats y he has to know us...That he might sow his incorruptible seed in our hearts...That Christ might be formed in us...Its gonna start with a lil one...one lil one is gonna be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Just as Jesus was just a lil one but he was multiplied and became as the stars of heaven... a number no man cd number John saw,simply b/c of his seed the words of the book that he wrote with his own blood...That New Covenant...I will know them all from the least to the greatest...This (Know them all is an intimacy) that is gona result in a birth of Christ in everybody...Isaiah speaks of a knowledge ( an intimacy ) that is gona cover the earth as the waters cover the seas...In Isaiah 11:9...Thats y he has to know us...Thats y the Woman is giving birth...And that y we must be bornagain of his incorruptible seed...Thus Christ will truly be multiplied as the stars of heaven in humanity....They don't call him the bridegroom for nothin....He has a seed to sow in humanity...Thus our new heart and new spirit..Thus the babes and sucklings...The Israel of God...ok lemme go...Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains...a time of Jacobs trouble that heavenly Jacob the H.G... Jeremiah 30:6 ..

Alex1939...Ellix2u I agree with you some what...But we have to birth the Child which is the H.G. that Child of Promise.. but when the book ( that New Covenant ) is opened...We will all travail in birth pains...As Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains Jeremiah 30:6...Its gonna happen automatically after tHE BOOK IS OPENED...We answer to the woman in Rev 12:10 that is giving birth to the Children of the Kingdom which are spirits An Israel of God which is the H.G. God is gonna pour out of his spirit on ALL FLESH...We dont have anything to do with it as our carnal minds is the very ENEMY of God..

.....This New Covenant is different then the O.C...Thats y Romans 8:5 is telling us ...While we were yet sinners Christ died for ALL of us...Its not according to the O.C... Jeremiah 31:34...God Almighty gave us this N.C. Saying I will KNOW them ALL from the least to the greatest...If I be lifted up I will draw ALL MEN UNTO ME...When he took the cup he said this is the New Covenant in my blood drink ye all of it...Which took place on Calvary...I was found of them that sought me not and made manifest unto them that asked not after me...What a Covenant, I kiss you my son Jesus...Its all his doings...But there is a Child involved b/c of his seed the words of the book....Ya gotta realize he has to KNOW US..We can only birth this Child via his seed the living word the contents of the book that he wrote with his own blood that N.C...Remember that tree of KNOWLEDGE.

.....That which is Perfect is yet to come on the 3 rd day...I will be perfected on the 3 rd day...Outta of the mouths of babes and sucklings thou has PERFECTED PRAISE...Unless you receive this Kingdom OF God as a lil Child you will in NO WISE ENTER THERE. IN... Isaiah 11:9....Knowledge is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas...I will know (knowledge an intimacy ) them all from the least to the greatest...Thus the Woman giving birth to the Children...The babes and sucklings our new heart n new spirit.

Alex1939...The reason Jesus has to know us is b/c we have to be bornagain of his incorruptible seed...even by the words of God that New Covenant IN HIS BLOOD...My lil Children of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you...Thats y he has to know us so that Christ might be formed in us...Truth is the sower of that good seed is Christ the Bridegroom...Thats y he is saying whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth me...And that good seed are the words of God...And he that soweth that good seed is Christ the son of man...The bridegroom...It all goes back to the great Promise when God swore by his very self that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Thus the need for a sower and his seed but it had to be a heavenly seed ...As we have borne the the image of the earthy we must also bear the image of the heavenly...Which is the H.G. the multiplication of very God as Jesus said to whom the word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods...And the scripture cannot be broken...When he breathe on them he was propagating very God which was the H.G. That Child of PROMISE...Which is Spirit as that which is born of the spirt is spirit...As God is spirit..Remember Jesus said the good seed are the Children of the Kingdom.

But she halted...As Micah 5:3 said he wd give them up till the woman is in travail and birth pains...Then the remnant of his brethren will come and be a sign to Israel and the world...We are still in that time of desolation when no man can work...Jesus said i am the light of the world but the night comes when no man can work...While the bridegroom tarried they all slumbered and slept..But on the 3 rd day he made a New Wine which was better then the 1st wine...Which is when that book is opened on the last day as God told Daniel...Thats when Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains... Jeremiah 30:6...For the babes and sucklings that are able to worship God with a perfect praise.Which are the words of the book...The Womans Children

alex1939...I just wanted to give ya my take on the Garden of God...And the 2 trees in the midst of the Garden...I think they are tied together in this New Covenant in our hearts...Salvation can come via his words of that Book in the Fathers right hand.

.....What i am trying to tell you is this New Covenant is tied into the Garden of our hearts...This tree of Knowledge is an intimacy...Thats y Jesus says he has to KNOW us...And thats the only way we can be bornagain of an incorruptible seed which is the contents of that book/That tree of KNOWLEDGE...The only way that good seed can be sown in our heart is thru an intimacy...Thats when he Knows us...The only way we can ever KNOW right from wrong in self control of the flesh is thru this Tree of KNOWLEDGE...That New COVENANT Is by Being bornagain of an incoruptible seed THE LIVING WORD...The biblical definition of Knowledge is an intimacy...Not about fun and games or Church attendence... or Carnal knowledge But an intimacy where that good seed is sown in our hearts initiating a heavenly birth of Christ in us That Child of PROMISE...The H.G....Thats y the prophets saw all the world in travail and birth pains... Jeremiah 30:6...A time of Jacobs troubles, Jacob was the 3 rd person in the Abrahamic trinity...And that Child of promise is the H.G. the 3 rd Person in the heavenly Trinity...The gift of God from the leaves of the trees... Rev 22:16...For the healing of the nations...Our Child birth but the Child is the H.G. That which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. That Child of Promise...We are not under that old covenant any more...Now the very Kingdom of God is gonna be with in us...Thus the 2 trees are gonna be with in us...Its our hearts that is the Garden of God where that good seed is sown...The bridegroom wants to sow his seed in our hearts which is the living WORD...The leaves of the tree of KNOWLEDGE...And Isaiah said that this KNOWLEDGE is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas. Is.11:9 k

alex1939...Amen Gerald Hebrews 11:1 is the best description of faith, Its simply a spritual pregnancy that precedes the New Birth...The Child is the H.G. THE Child of Promise...When a woman is pregnant she has the substance of things hoped for the Evidence of things not seen...But in the spritual realm the bridegroom is Jesus and his words are his seeds...Thats y he has to know us, Thats when the good seed the living word is sown in our hearts...Forming Christ in us...My lil Chidren of whom i travail in Birth till CHRIST IS FORMED IN YOU...Thats y he always refers to himself as the son of man...Impling mankinds fruit unto God as Romans 7:4 tells us...Thus the Wheat is truly a baby Christ...Simply b/c the sower of that heavenly seed is Christ the bridegroom...Our hearts is the womb in the spirit...Thats y he is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit thus the Child IS OUR NEW INNERMAN the H.G. the multiplication/regeneration of Christ in us..The Child is the Evidence we have known the bridegroom.

.....But this is gonna initiate war in heaven...Its gonna be Kingdom against Kingdom...Simply b/c satan is gonna sow a tare in

us which is satans seed...Remember satan the dragon the tare wanted to kill the woman with Child Rev 12:5 a great warfare with in us...This war rages in our hearts and minds simply b/c the Kingdom is gonna be with in us...The woman is the world as God so loved the world but she is also bride the good ground where the good seed was sown impregnating her with that heavenly seed...The Children of Promise an Israel of God...But these things are hid from the wise and prudent and revealed unto babes...Thats y Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains... Jeremiah 30:6...Men & women are gonna birth a baby Christ...Kings shall be your nursing father and women are gonna be your nursing mothers..Faith under this New Covenant is gonna fulfill the great promise of multiplication n regeneration in humanity....ok lemme go

Psalm 50. Once again; this Psalm is prophetic and has some overlapping themes of the previous one; as well as the next Psalm. Zion is described here in verse 2 as to where "God hath shined." That could be from the heavenly city or the mountain here on earth when He comes. Gathering the saints who have made a covenant with me by sacrifice sounds like the Rapture; and also reminds us of the sentiment of a "broken and contrite spirit" spoken of in Psalm 51:17.

The purpose of the tine of "Jacob's trouble" ( Jeremiah 30:7) seems to be the meaning of verse 7. Verse 8 interestingly seems to indicate that despite the sacrifice of Christ meaning any future ones to cover sins are futile; the Lord allows this in the Tribulation for a time. This would probably be to bring Satan's plans into fruition; the final "Abomination of Desolation" to be installed; and the realization right before Messiah returns who Christ really is. These verses can be examined further: Daniel 11:30-31; and Zechariah 13 and 14 in their entirety.

There still will be; as the last chapters of Ezekiel indicate a final Millennial Temple where apparently as a memorial or for ceremonial cleansing for those still in earthly bodies will need to worship around those glorified saints and Christ Himself; lest they be consumed.

Verses 10 through 13 show the eventual fuility of animal sacrifices. Verse 14 shows as Psalm 51 does about offering a sacrifice of praise; and verse 16 reminds us of Deut. 4:30 when there is hope even in Tribulation for those who cry out. Verses 16 through 22 describe the fate of the wicked; always contrasted with the righteous in scripture and always needed for the complete Gospel of salvation as well. The righteous in the last verse once again are called to praise; but with the stipulation of keeping his "conversation aright". Isaiah 33:14 asks us who can dwell with (or in the presence of) everlasting fire? It mentions "speaking rightly" in the next verse.

Anonymous...Alex...Plz note the woman does not go into birth pains till the book is opened...And thats when they sang that New Song...( the New Covenant a birthing covenant that he wrote with his own blood.. we ALL must be bornagain of an incorruptible seed..via the words of the book in the fathers right hand...The woman has faith simply b/c she is with Child of the seed of Jesus the contents of the book...The woman is the world as Jesus said the field is the world where that the good seed will be sown... Jeremiah 30:6 Jeremiah saw ALL men in travail and birth pains.

.....The Woman has the substance of things hoped for ( the Kingdom ) The evidence of things not seen ( the Children of Promise ) ...Remember the great promise Christ has to be multiplied as the stars of heaven...thus all men in travail and birth pains...Thus Faith is truly a spiritual pregnancy preceding a spiritual birth of Christ in us...The Son of Man...Man kinds fruit unto God as in Romans 7 :4...WE must be married to Christ and bring forth fruit unto God which is the Child of Promise the H.G.

......Remember Isaiah 11:9...Isaiah saw an intimacy a Knowledge covering the earth as the waters covering the seas...Thus all men are gona travail in birth pains...Which is the very same as Jeremiah 31:34 Gods new Covenant i will KNOW THEM ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST...This Know them all is an intimacy with God that is gonna result in a heavenly Birth...But b/f the birth takes place the only thing we have is Faith the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen....the Child of PROMISE...The H.G. is the Child of PROMISE...When Jesus said behold i send the Promise of my Father upon you it was baptism of the H.G...Via his words which are his seeds..Thats y he mentions the babes and sucklings...our new hearts and spirits...ok lemme go

Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...The words of our Lord.

Psalm 37 seems to be a general overview of many of the preceding Psalms; although once again it should be emphasized that the chronology is not in order but the verse about the righteous never being foresaken (v. 25) shows it is likely written after many others.

There are many examples found in other Psalms. For example; we see in verse 13 about God laughing at the wicked; which is mentioned in Psalm 2. Another example found in Psalm 10 is in verse 17 about the arms of the wicked which are broken. We also find verses elsewhere in scripture; including the N.T. One such case in verse 11 is quoted by Jesus in the Gospels in Matthew 5:5.

We even see elements of predestination in verses 23 to 24. Ephesians 2:10 talks of good works before the foundation of the world prepared for us to perform. Verse 24 gives us the concept of "Perseverance of the Saints" also echoed in Proverbs 24:16. There is the concept largely covered in Psalm 119 about having the law of God in their hearts (v. 31) Verse 34 could be a Millennial reference; exhorting us to wait on the Lord; such a theme of patience is found in numerous other passages along with promises of the Saints (as well as David) to rule when the Kingdom of God comes to earth. ( Jeremiah 30:9; etal).

The main idea here seems to be the eternal destinies of the righteous and the wicked and the brevity of this life. Passages such as in verse 28 are not popular today. As an individual; we should not seek vengeance on anyone in particular; but we should understand that the suffering of the church at large in the world where persecution is much greater than in this country; for example needs to be recompensed through Divine justice. We all are saved from wrath and being enemies of God and therefore we need to be humble in preaching the Gospel but also deliver the whole truth; including eternal judgment for the damned who will not repent.

Psalm 23

Probably the best known and most quoted Psalm at funerals; the theme is representative of both rest for God's people the first 3 verses could be a general sentiment on resting in the Lord.

For the Lord to be our shepherd; of course He has to be the Chief Shepherd over our lives. ( 1 Peter 2:25). The fourth verse could be applied; of course to the Messiah Himself once He died but He had to suffer the unique anguish of being separated from God as it pleased Him to crush Christ ( Isaiah 53:10). We need to consider our High Priest who suffered such things for our sake. ( Heb. 4:14-16).

Verse 5 is probably the most overlooked portion about preparing a table in the presence of "my enemies". This certainly could represent Christ when He returns; but also David himself once he comes back to rule and reign with Christ ( Jeremiah 30:9 and other references). We shall rule and reign with Christ as well ( Rev. 2:26-27 but also other passages). This is the heritage of the saints. These things should not bring us a mindset of arrogance and pride; but should serve as a warning to the unregenerate who hopefully will be convicted of sin while there is yet time to repent (see Matt. 21:24).

Goodness and mercy are promised in this life despite the trials of life. The eternal dwellingplace of all the saints is also a promise and something worth meditating over.

Isaiah 11...Tells us about a knowledge that is gonna cover this earth as the waters cover the seas...In Isaiah 11:9....This Knowledge is an intimacy that is gonna result in a birth of Christ in us....Thats y Jesus was so solid on knowing us....He has to know us thats when the good seed is sown in our hearts...The words of that New Covenant are the good seeds....Thats y Jesus said the good seed are the words of God...impling Gods New Covenant...Thats y he has to know us....And this knowledge an (intimacy) that is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas....Thats y Jeremiah saw all the world in travail and birth pains... Jeremiah 30:6....We are all gonna birth a baby Christ which is the H.G. that spirit of truth...Thats y he always refers to himself as the Son of man....Mankind has to bring forth fruit unto God... Romans 7:4 which is the HG. That Child of PROMISE...

.....Whosoever receiveth one such Child in my name receiveth me.... Rev 12 :5 She brought forth a man child that is gonna rule all nations...The Child is Spirit the H.G. ...the multiplication of Christ...That was the great Promise that Christ Jesus wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Thats y we refer to the H.G as the Child of Promise...he is the multiplication of Christ Jesus via his seed his breathe his words that are spirit and life....Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....Plz note the kingdom of God does not come till the woman the world births the Manchild the H.G that Child of Promise REV.12:10...OK Lemme go....let me just add this 27 times in the O.T. the Prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains...ok...The world the woman is gonna be saved in child birth....The CHILD being the H.G.

When does Salvation come and remain for ever.. Revelation 12 :10....No Salvation can come till the woman which is the world births the manchild which is the H.G.....That Spirit of truth that Jesus tells us will reprove the WORLD of sin and righteousness and Judgement ....He is the manchild that has just been born, just an Infant so he cannot speak as of yet....But He is gona rule this whole world as our lord said.

......Rev.12:10 Now is come Salvation and the kingdom of our God and strength...And the power of our God and his Christ ( the baby the H.G. ) ....We be the woman the world the field where that good seed was sown....The contents of that Book that he wrote with his own blood that New Covenant.

......Plz note No Salvation can come till the book is opened as God told Daniel in 12:9 )....Impling no kingdom can come till the book is opened simply b/c the words of the Book are the seeds of the sower that is gonna form Christ in us...Our King...Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child ( THE MANCHILD) you will in NO WISE ENTER THERE IN....Which answers to that Child of Promise....Remember the great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven..Thus the sower and his seed...The contents of the book...That New Covenant..An Israel of God which are spirits the H.G. plural That heavenly Jacob as in Isaiah 49 has to come in that last Day..But No Salvation can come till we birth the Child which is the H.G...The Child of Promise.

.....And thats y Jeremiah 30:6, ...he saw ALL men in travail and birth pains...A time of Jacobs troubles....The tares are the wheats troubles....The Wheat are baby Christ simply b/c the sower of the good seed is the bridegroom...Thus a warfare between the manchild and the dragon...The Tares SATAN....And this war is raging with in us.....But the Kingdom is gona be with in us.

Lemme give ya my slant on spritual warfare....Its gonna be with in us in our hearts and minds etc....This Woman in Rev 12 : 5 is the best example of spritual warfare....She is involved in war with satan...the dragon she is symbolic of humanity that is gonna go thru a spritual war....But Her Child which is the H.G. is gonna RULE ALL NATIONS....This is an internal war with in us....All of this is with in us simply b/c of the good seed HIS WORD that is sown in our hearts and minds....There is WAR in Jesus Heart....With Satan the Dragon.... Psalms 55 : 21...His words were smoother then Oil but they were like drawn Swords....His Words were smoother then butter but war was in his Heart....When Jesus will go forth to sow his precious seed in our hearts its gona result in a warfare with Satan....This Rev. 12 is about a war with Satan the Dragon the ( Tare ) that is tormenting her....The Tare and the wheat are within her and are in a warfare...in heavenly places impling in our spirts...We walk in the Flesh but we are gonna war in the spirit.

.....But the Manchild which is the H.G. that results from his good seed sown in our hearts is gonna rule all Nations....Simply b/c he is gonna be born in the hearts of everyman...As Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains... Jeremiah 30:6..Who is my mother he asked them that hears my words and keeps them...His good seed is gona initiate a Birth of Christ in us...But all of this is simply b/c there is war in his heart....The Kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of our lord and his Christ... the Baby the ( Man Child)...The babes and sucklings he mentions that are gonna be born in us an Israel of God...The Kingdom of God has to come via his seeds sown in our hearts....She brought forth a man child the H.G. a Kingdom Child....Unless you receive the Kingdom as lil Child a Spiritual child....Which is our new heart and new spirit...our new innerman....When ya read Rev. 12 remember its all with in us..A war that rages in us.

Revelation 6:12-17 Sixth seal.

If indeed there was praise everywhere as stated after the Rapture in Revelation 5:13 there wasn't anymore. Fear was apparently for all members of society (v. 15) when they tried to hide in vain in the caves of the earth from God and Christ's wrath. For those who would say that this is a parallel passage to the bowl judgments or trumpet judgments are not dividing the Word very carefully. By the bowl judgments men are trying literally to fight against Christ; and are continually blaspheming His name; making no attempt to veil either their bodies or attitudes from God. The demons have succeeded in total control; no doubt aided by the intoxicating power behind Satan's mark of the Beast.

The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. ( Prov. 9:10; etc.) Some will learn from this and repent such as seen in Psalm 64:9. There is a time when it is too late however such as in Psalm 18:41-42. That is in God's hands. For some at the sixth seal it probably is too late; all those not in the Book of Life will worship the Beast ( Rev. 13:8) and be damned ( Rev. 19:15).

That will no doubt encompass many who continue in sin even after one third of the earth is destroyed and men are tormented by demons ( Rev. 9:21).

I pray that as this study continues as an unworthy servant to reflect the Spirit of God in my words and to have the strength to undertake discussion of these awful realities which are to come upon the earth. May someone even one soul take it to heart and be led to repentance and may readers be as Jeremiah states in chapter 20 verse 9 that His Word is fire in our bones. The enemy does not want our minds to be opened to see what is shortly to come to pass. The apocalyptic day which is worse than any that was and will come ( Jeremiah 30:7; Mark 13:19; Matt. 24:21) is at hand. May we all have a "reality check" and be ready for His return to escape all these things ( Luke 21:36; Rev. 3:10).

REVELATION 12: WHO IS THE WOMAN?

The WOMAN is all flesh and blood, Christ's bride.

Jeremiah 30:6 Ask ye now, and see whether a MAN doth travail with a CHILD? wherefore I see EVERY MAN with his hands on his loins, as A WOMAN in travail, and all faces are turned to paleness.

Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I TRAVAIL IN BIRTH again, until CHRIST BE FORMED IN YOU (the Holy Ghost, GOD).

1 Timothy 2:14 .... but the WOMAN (all flesh and blood) being DECEIVED was in the transgression.

1 Timothy 2:15 ....the WOMAN shall be SAVED in CHILDBEARING ....a man child (CHRIST FORMED IN YOU) ...

Revelation 12:1 ... a WOMAN (all flesh and blood, in the AGES TO COME) clothed with GOD, and the CHRIST under her feet, and a crown of 12 stars (angels, ministering spirits) upon her head.

Ephesians 2:7 That in the AGES TO COME .....

WHO IS THE MAN CHILD?

Revelation 12:5 And the WOMAN brought forth a man child, that was to RULE ALL NATIONS with a rod of iron ... Psalms 2:8-9 .... Psalms 149:9

Revelation 2:27 And he (the MAN CHILD that overcomes DECEPTION) shall rule them with a rod of iron .....even as I received of MY FATHER.

Isaiah 60:22 A little one (Christ) shall become A THOUSAND, and a small one (Christ) a strong nation (TRUE ISRAEL) ....

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I PLEASE, and it shall prosper in the things whereto I SENT IT.

Ephesians 2:7 That in the AGES TO COME ....all will be FULFILLED: GOD will be ALL in ALL .... 1 Corinthians 15:28.

God Bless ALL.

Revelation 12: who is the woman

the woman is all flesh and blood.

jeremiah 30:6 ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with a child? wherefore i see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned to paleness.

galatians 4:19 my little children, of whom i travail in birth again, until christ be formed in you (the spirit of christ, the holy ghost, god).

1 timothy 2:14 .....but the woman (all flesh and blood) being deceived was in the transgression.

1 timothy 2:15 ....the woman shall be save in childbearing .....a man child (christ formed in you), that shall rule all nations.

revelation 12:1 ....a woman clothed with god, and the christ under her feet, and a crown of 12 stars (angels, ministering spirits) upon the woman's head.

ephesians 2:7 that in the ages to come .....

god bless all.

Basically; the final destruction of Babylon didn't occur. Revelation 17 seems to talk of the spiritual Babylon; something the Beast has to destroy to gain complete worship for Himself (i.e. Satan). Revelation 18 discusses the economic Babylon and a "great city" being destroyed. Some have guessed this is New York City; others suggest that it is in the same geographical locale as ancient Babylon. The ecumenical center of the 3 monotheistic faiths in Dubai along with a city 30 times larger than New York City which is planned to be ultramodern; with a drone based transportation system makes this seem more feasible.

At any event; this will make way for the Mark of the Beast; and either worship of Satan or of God. There will be no more false religious system; or any comfort in materialism. We must remember that it is worshipping the image of the Beast with food being a sidenote that drives people to taking the mark. Death will be for all those not taking it; although a few will survive until the end and into the Millennium period in hiding.

Thankfully; 2 Thess. 2 seems to indicate that the church will be out of here before that. Also we have the verse about the gates of hell not prevailing against the church today ( Matt. 16:18). However; the saints will be overcome according to Daniel in the time of Jacob's trouble ( Rev. 13:7; Daniel 7:21; Jeremiah 30:7).

These prophecies must surely occur; although it is held back to some extent now. Once the lawless one is revealed; things will be exponentially worse than ever before and than it ever will be ( 2 Thess. 2:8; Matt.24:21).

May you be richly blessed as you study His word; particularly Revelation as we are promised that reading that book ( Rev. 1:3).

Agape; Rich P

John 17, Jeremiah 30:18-21, John 6:44, John 15:16,19, Romans 8:28-30,

Numbers 16:5,

Matthew 20:16, Matthew 22:14,

John 6:70, John 13:18, Acts 1:2,

Hopefully these are helpful

JVIM has a chart on the subject and shows the Jamba (whoever they are) in part of S. Africa. Clearly; with the diaspora in the 1980s to 1990s of Ethiopean Jews there has been some last day move back to Israel. It is hard to read the chart in my room; but there are some Jews that ended up (probably more recently) in S. America; and areas in China.

Of course; there would be individuals who genetically would have scattered throughout the Gentile nations and intermarried who wouldn't know their origins; by and large. The whole concept; it seems to me is that during the Tribulation concurrent with "Jacob's Trouble" His people are delievered out of it ( Jeremiah 30:7). This would bring Israel to a Prophetic fulfillment delivering the "Message of the Kingdom" which was never even completed to all the cities of Israel but will be preached in the End. This would once again put the ethnic Jews in the forefront; the one third who go through and are proven faithful during the refining fire of that seven year trial. This would be a declaratory message of God's victory in real time being started after the Rapture once the judgments are underway. It seems to start sometime before anything in the earth is harmed with the two prophets so there could be a delay from the beginning of the Tribulation for the ministry to begin. These would involve the signs and wonders sort of miracles by Elijah and the second Prophet; and of course is followed by the false miracles of similar appearance by the False Prophet. Final repentance according to Zechariah isn't until they see Christ coming; and all tribes of the earth mourn; Jerusalem is saved before total annihilation and it can be fulfilled that the Temple will be a "house of prayer for all nations" ( Isaiah 56:7). They will once again be a "Theocracy"; regain all their original territory in the Covenant promises and be a blessing for all nations that stream in to worship the true God.

Hi James.

Are you talking about Romans

11:5-7?

"Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded."

If so that's Israel.

Mathew 24:24.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

These verses seems to suggest the same.

Vs 16: Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Vs 20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

Daniel 12:1.

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for THE CHILDREN OF THY PEOPLE: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

The children of Daniels people is Israel.

Israel is also called Gods elect throughout the Scripture.

Isaiah 45:4.

For Jacob my servant's sake, and ISRAEL MINE ELECT, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

Isaiah 65:9.

And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.

PARALLEL VERSES.

Isaiah 65:22.

They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

Jeremiah 30:7.

Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.

God bless.

Jeremiah covers the capture of each area & continues to warn them to repent. Jeremiah 1:1-3, Jeremiah 4:1-2, Jeremiah 5:1, Jeremiah 7:1-15, Jeremiah 10:20-21, Jeremiah 11, Jeremiah 12, Jeremiah 34:8-22,

Jeremiah 20:1-2, Jeremiah 21:1-2, king Zedekiah, Jeremiah 22, Jeremiah 24:1, Jeconiah son of Jehoiakim King of Judah, Jeremiah 25:1-3, 4th yr. of Johoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah . Jeremiah 32:1-2, Jeremiah 34:1-7,

Prophetic promise: Jeremiah 23:3-7, Jeremiah 30:3-4, Jeremiah 31, Jeremiah 33:7-17,

Jeremiah 29, note Jeremiah 29:1-4,

Daniel was taken into captivity as young boy, Daniel 1:1, Daniel 9:1-2, Jeremiah 29:10, but looks to have returned in Ezra 8:2

Note: Jeremiah 37:1-3, king Zedekiah instead, Coniah only mentioned here & Jeremiah 22:24,28, not in Isaiah or other Books in Bible of this account, including the Books of Kings, nor the Books of Chronicles.

Hebrews 5, Hebrews 6, Hebrews 7,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study

To me, it sounds like we are in that time now! Please explain, we must see the difference where we are otherwise it is hopeless and read. In peace "Richard H Priday" u wrote:

David himself apparently will co-reign on earth with Christ someday and us as kings and priests ( Jeremiah 30:9

; Rev. 1:6

and others). Then; our real enemy; Satan will be confined; and eventually death itself will be abolished according to 1 Corinthians 15:55

and also mentioned in Hosea.

I can imagine today that we have this authority in Jesus' Holy Name.

God bless u and yours in Jesus name. Luke chapter 9 and 10

When Christ described the Holy Spirit it was said to do remind us of 3 things; sin; righteousness and JUDGMENT. ( John 16:8-11). When we look to the meek such as Moses and the humble such as David; we observe a man who spoke with God "face to face" ( Exodus 33:11). David was a man "after God's own heart"( 1 Sam. 13:14; etal). Moses made the mistake of trying to enact justice himself when he killed the man who was beating a fellow Israelite; and had to wait another 40 years to be used by God for the purposes intended in His plan from the beginning to deliver His people from bondage. David mourned Saul's death of "God's anointed" ( 1 Chron. 16:22). Despite this; he had many "impreccatory" prayers in Psalms indicating his hatred for evil; and asking for judgment to take place on the wicked.

In these passages; we see the principles also in the New Testament; that the "meek shall inherit the earth." ( Matthew 5:5). We must remember that God also promises that according to Malachi 4:3 His people will "tread down the ashes of the wicked." His saints also will rule with a rod of iron according to Rev. 2:26-27; and other verses in Psalms (which I can't find at present).

There is a risk of going to either extreme as will all other scriptures; where we become either too "lovey dovey" in approaching God and only quoting verses that sound nice; or of course always preaching about judgment. The truth is; God is both a God of vengeance and a God of mercy and grace. Yes; He will tread the winepress alone ( Isaiah 63:3); but there are special places of authority for His children in the Kingdom of God "ruling over cities" for instance in Luke 19. David himself apparently will co-reign on earth with Christ someday and us as kings and priests ( Jeremiah 30:9; Rev. 1:6 and others). Then; our real enemy; Satan will be confined; and eventually death itself will be abolished according to 1 Corinthians 15:55 and also mentioned in Hosea.

Search the scriptures. Agape.. Rich P.