23 I beheld the earth(Israel), and, lo, it was without form, and void( Genesis 1:2); and the heavens(Eph.1:3-8 combined with Genesis 1:1), and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains...they trembled, the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld,and, lo,there was no man,and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
The verse 24 is an event to happen in near future, it is linked with Revelation 6:14-17, and it is linked to the opening of the sixth seal.
Get ready, there will be a WAR against the body of the red Dragon, a religious and satanic MONSTER having 7 heads, 10 horns and a terribel TAIL as was prophesied by Daniel:
Daniel 2:44-45
44 And in the days of these kings shall the GOD of heaven set up a kingdom( Revelation 11:15-18), which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great GOD hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
Yes the Light is indeed the Light of the knowledge of God in the face of Jesus Christ. And upon careful study of the scriptures the darkness was already there, thus it was created because as you pointed out in Isaiah 45:7. I have revelation that that darkness was the Old Lucifer who turned the light God gave to him into that darkness and God knew he would,for it is All according to his eternal purpose. The Light of the knowledge of God excelleth that darkness. Thus something happened between Genesis 1:1-2. For everything was overturned and made a wilderness at the fierce anger of the Lord. I think it's in Jeremiah 4:23- (Paraphrase) got I'm speaking the truth from the heart. " I beheld and lo the earth was void and empty and darkness and it was overthrow by the fierce anger of the Lord. And Isaiah 14 says Lucifer made the world as a wilderness. And he calls the darkness - NIGHT. So it was overthrown in the night by The lord.- Job 34:25. And paraphrasing Jesus Christ. He said are their not 12 hours in a day? And John 9:4 I must work the works of Him that sent me, while it is DAY: THE NIGHT COMETH, WHEN NO MAN CAN WORK JOHN 9:5- while I Am in the world,I am the Light of the world. He will come as a thief in the night. I am persuaded I have the testimony of Jesus which is the Spirit of prophecy. Not that I am anything or anyone. But Jesus Christ And Him loving My poor and needy self. Thank you so much for blessing me with an opportunity to share the deep things of God's unsearchable word. God bless you
"Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
Jeremiah 4:25
"I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled."
"Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished
There are many scriptures like as this one. I do believe that the heavens are 3 separate but physical and spiritual heavens. That we see and that we won't see unless we are born again...
the expression of the Scrip implies obedience,, for Matt 7:21 to enter His works that's been prepared for us from the foundation of the world. Ephesians 2:10 which is these works of righteousness of Titus 3:5 that comes to us by His mercy towards us.
What are His works, the first is 'repentance" God Spirit work upon one soul, convincing one of their sins, which springs from the spirit of unbelief, that comes from the devil, his influnece upon one's heart, & keeps one in his kingdom of disobedience & all who plead for sin & are convince we're not to be delivered from it in this life is of the devil, are deluded, deceived & believe a lie,
2 Thessalonians 2:11 their faith is a life & why? Because they did not choose to become lovers of the Truth. 2 Thessalonians 2:10,11
I could go on with this vein of Truth that's Scriptural sound, with sound reasoning. His Spirit Witness in your own hearts witnesses to the Truth that's being reveal. the question is will you receive Him?
Friends, for the love of your eternal souls, & for the love of Christ soften your heart by Jeremiah 4:3 thorns, the corruptible seed of the devil & Hosea 10:12 the free gift, the Word of Righteousness, the incorruptible Seed of Rom 5:17 & receive Him
The liberty that you indirectly or directly speaking of, is an allowance or plead to continue in sin, resulting in a form of godliness but denying the power to make you truly godly. Your book learning that you so greatly esteem, has veiled you to shun the cross. Rom 8:5; Philippians 3:3; Philippians 3:18,19; No wonder Holy Spirit led me into mentioning the cross in our previous discussion, which you says, you didn't understand why I would mention this as relating to our topic. John 1:5; Reread.
Sad to say, as of now, these things maybe hidden from you & according to your faith, so is it being done unto you, for how can an unclean faith bring forth a pure vessel, 2 Timothy 2:21;
God in His great love for you is reaching out to you, I have not spoken from myself, but waited for His counsel in all our conversations, this is O & NT pattern; I've spoken plainly & felt from the beginning in reading your testimony, that God has a future purpose for you, when a farmer plants a seed, it takes much nurturing & patience & pruning to bring about fruit, but it is only accomplish within us, by a sincere love for the Truth, especially when His two edged sword is facing towards us, this I have had very much experience in. There He will make us to know His wisdom that is from above. & yet, same sword that cuts, also heals, bless the Lord, don't allow His Seed to remain among thorns, Mark 4:7; Jeremiah 4:3,4; Rev 18:4;
I believe we are to go directly to the Lord with our prayers. Our Father, placed within all Christians a helper: Holy Spirit that has many gifts that can intercede on our behalf. I know Saints are in many of the KJV books. I wonder if praying to Saints is a form of an idol? I am not sure. Saint's roles are to sing hymns, play instruments, make requests to Christ and offer prayers on our behalf. It's a good question. I'm perplexed but would love to know what additional information you acquire on the topic...
There is not a Scripture reference where we are ever instructed to pray to those who have already died. But there are Scripture references that tell us not to do such things. Leviticus 19:26 is one reference. There are many others. Praying to those who have died is prohibited by Scripture because it has to do with sorcery and divination.
A saint is anyone who believes the Gospel of Jesus and in Him for salvation. So, all believers alive today are saints, as are all the believers who have died. Only the regenerative and salvation work of God makes one a saint. No one who has died before us is any more saintly than any other believer because it is the righteousness of Jesus imputed upon us that makes us holy.
We are to pray to God alone. We certainly can ask other believers to pray for us. Scripture instructs us to pray for one another.
So, Gilbert, there is only one Mediator between God and man, Jesus. So it is in His name that we pray to the Father. We need no other go-between (mediator) but Jesus. It can be difficult to shed some of the practices of Catholicism that are contrary to Scripture, but praying to saints who are dead is one practice every Catholic needs to stop doing because it violates Scripture and substitutes another mediator between God and man in the place of Jesus.
Please see context: Deuteronomy 10:16, Deuteronomy 30:6, even in old testament men have argued their holiness, set apart status, (in the flesh) yet GOD said even then; it's about the heart. Jeremiah 4:4, Jeremiah 9:25, = Romans 2:29, Romans 3:30, Romans 4:11, 1Corinthians 7:18,
Galatians 3:28,
They were still arguing circumcision, not equality in GOD. Acts 11:2, Galatians 2:12,
Jeremiah 20:1, Yeah, sad when someone of trusted positions act corrupt, cruel & evil, abusing their authority, especially in the house of The LORD our GOD! Proverbs 15:3, that's why GOD sent Jeremiah to prophecy to them. Jeremiah 1:4-19, Jeremiah 4:1-6, notice Jeremiah 20:1-6, Jeremiah 7,
But then: Jeremiah 3:12, Jeremiah 12:15, Isaiah 51:11, Isaiah 35:10, Isaiah 44:22, Isaiah 55:7, John 3:15-21,
Even today we see hypocrisy but Jesus already knew, lived it & gave us direction : Matthew 23, Matthew 25:31-46,
That's not a stupid question Kathy, as quite often when a prophet of God makes an utterance, he does so as he hears God speak to him, or he is moved in spirit, or even by a vision, and sometimes all of these are mixed in together within the chapters.
Here in Jeremiah 4:23-26, we read the words, "I beheld". And this tells us that Jeremiah was given a vision of impending disaster so it was Jeremiah himself that made these utterances. A disaster so great, that it would be likened to the state of the Earth before God made it habitable for living creatures ( Genesis 1:2). And then the LORD speaks in verse 27, "For thus hath the LORD said (speaking of the coming judgement), The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end." Even though the Earth (the land that Judah inhabited) will be destitute of vitality, of light, & of living creatures, God would not annihilate it altogether. For one day in the future, Judah would return to their land.
Jeremiah covers the capture of each area & continues to warn them to repent. Jeremiah 1:1-3, Jeremiah 4:1-2, Jeremiah 5:1, Jeremiah 7:1-15, Jeremiah 10:20-21, Jeremiah 11, Jeremiah 12, Jeremiah 34:8-22,
Jeremiah 20:1-2, Jeremiah 21:1-2, king Zedekiah, Jeremiah 22, Jeremiah 24:1, Jeconiah son of Jehoiakim King of Judah, Jeremiah 25:1-3, 4th yr. of Johoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah . Jeremiah 32:1-2, Jeremiah 34:1-7,
Daniel was taken into captivity as young boy, Daniel 1:1, Daniel 9:1-2, Jeremiah 29:10, but looks to have returned in Ezra 8:2
Note: Jeremiah 37:1-3, king Zedekiah instead, Coniah only mentioned here & Jeremiah 22:24,28, not in Isaiah or other Books in Bible of this account, including the Books of Kings, nor the Books of Chronicles.
Revelation 8, - Revelation 9, - Revelation 10, note there are 7 angels with seven trumpets Revelation 8:2-6, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, & 4th angels "sounded" their trumpets in Rev. 8, Revelation 8:7,8,10,12, & warns of the final 3. Revelation 8:13, "And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabitants of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound"
The 5th & 6th angels sound in Rev. 9, Revelation 9:1,13, It's not until Revelation 10, the 7th will sound Revelation 10:7,
1Corinthians 15:52, Jeremiah 4:13, Daniel 7:13, Zephaniah 1, Zephaniah 1:15,16, Amos 5:18-20, Matthew 24:3-51, Mark 13:4-37, Revelation 1:7, Mark 14:60-62, Matthew 26:62-64, Revelation 10:1-7, Revelation 14,
Make ye mention to the nations; behold, publish against Jerusalem, that watchers come from a far country, and give out their voice against the cities of Judah.
Daniel 4:17
This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
Watcher is a type of biblical angel. Watcher occurs in both plural and singular forms in the Book of Daniel, where reference is made to their holiness.
The APOCRYPHA of Enoch refer to both good and bad Watchers, with a primary focus on the rebellious ones.
"In the Book of Enoch, the watchers are angels dispatched to Earth to watch over the humans. They soon begin to LUST for human women and, at the prodding of their leader Samyaza, defect en masse to illicitly instruct humanity and procreate among them.
They created Human/Angel Hybrids called the Nephilim. Fallen Ones - Watchers. They are real and they were wiped out by the Flood in Noah's time.
They aren't mentioned anymore after the narrative that they created giants after lusting after women.
If you go to the book of Enoch, they are imprisoned.
We know the earth is billions of years old by artifacts, etc. We have to accept the fact that the Bible is about Jesus Christ. God did not choose to write a Book about Earths formation.
I believe He meant for us to discover a truth: that SOMEONE made all of this. Read Romans 1
Time was created. For mankind; and times and seasons. Read Psalms 33:6-9; Jeremiah 4:23; Isaiah 24:1, 40:12. Job 38 is helpful too.
You are going to enjoy studying so much more if you'll get a study Bible, with CENTER COLUMN references (center of each page); with study helps like concordance, maps, lists. I saw some on Amazon the other day on sale. King James Version. :D
Always, always ask the Holy Spirit to Teach you what you are studying. That is Him in Genesis 1:2
He was awaiting Gods purpose, and the Word of God (Jesus) to speak forth.
You have to be born again, Baptized into the Holy Spirit; to be taught Bible personally by Him.
Jesus went through the Cross also, to give us the indwelling Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost. Jesus said, unless I go away he (Holy Spirit) Comforter, Teacher, Convictor of sins, cannot come. He's as real as the nose on your face. study HIs Gifts. You can ask for the best gift. He knows exactly what you need.
I have a really special reveal on the Holy Spirit: He sings. I sing to Him and it probably hurts His ears, so we sing together. Why do we not enter into His presence and just listen to Him?
This comment room would be on fire if we would believe what Jesus told us about the Comforter. I know why Paul thought it better to go to heaven, but he suffered to stay here so we could grow up strong in Jesus Christ.
Stop looking at this world that is dying, and turn your eyes upon Jesus! He loves us and wants us to be with Him always. Learn the Knowledge of the Holy. That's a scripture.
What we're seeing in the USA and in the rest of the world is a decrease of human rights, a lessening value for human life, a lessening respect for Christianity, and increase in immorality, increase in bullying and group think, increase in lies, deceit, and propaganda pushed from the media, the government, and operatives. US is a banana republic.
It's one thing to treat water, but another to publish fake news to inflate statistics, and to publish fake 'studies' to discredit an inexpensive remedy that is 100% effective for a virus that has been tested safe and used for 60+ years, but to instead push an experimental shot with a 90% negative side effect, that has caused death and then try to force it on everyone. The deaths caused by it have been concealed and mostly unpublished by the media. Whereas the a % of the normal 2.8m-3m deaths in the US have been reallocated to claim that this new virus killed them instead of the normal top culprits: abortion, heart disease, lung cancer (smoking), falling, flu, pneumonia, etc. It's pretty sick and evil levels of deceit by the media, government, and certain political parties. It's as though God is allowing this country to collapse from within, just like happened to Rome or the Mayan civilization.
The US has become Sodom and Gomorrah and God might be letting everyone suffer from their own lies and evil pushed on each other. It's really sad and depressing I have to say. When you love the country in which you live and see it being torn apart by pure evil it's hard to take. It's like watching a slow train wreck- feel powerless to do anything about it. I only can trust that God will have his will done- He will allow whatever He wants to happen to happen. I'm not proud of this country or it's direction and am embarrassed by the lies and stupidity I see from the media. People getting the virus, then still pressured into getting in injection and still wearing double masks. Jeremiah 4:22
Jeremiah 4:4 Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.
Jeremiah 4:13-14 Behold, He shall come up as clouds, and his chariots shall be as a whirlwind: his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe unto us! for we are spoiled.
O Jerusalem, wash thine heart from wickedness, that thou mayest be saved. How long shall thy vain thoughts lodge within thee?
I believe you are correct as to the speaker being Jeremiah up until ( Jeremiah 4:26).
I was wondering, though, if you believe that this is a portrayal of Israel's future punishment, the devastation of this particular punishment of earth covered in water, and no light from heaven, has not come to pass. Is this yet still a future punishment awaiting Israel? If so, then what do we do with God's covenant to Noah in Genesis 9:8-17?
As to the three earth and heaven ages, have you considered 2 Peter chapter 3.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
I believe this is reference to the 1st earth and heaven age, which ended by being "overflowed with water," i.e., becoming "without form, and void."
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
I understand this to be the 2nd heaven and earth age. Time present. From Genesis 1:2 on.
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
I believe this is the 3rd heaven and earth age we are all looking forward to.
Heaven on earth ( Revelation 21:2)
Three heaven and earth ages; One heaven and one earth.
Concerning Satan, I would give reference to Job.
Satan I believe can be considered a "son of God," because he is referenced as being among them and with them to present himself to God in Job 1:6 and again in Job 2:1.
Satan is also included as being there with God when "the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy" ( Job 38:7) in reference to the creation of earth by God.
It seems as though Satan and the other angels may have been around before the creation of the earth itself.
Please don't feel that you have to apologize for your disagreement with how I see these verses, as respectful discourse brings forth better understanding.
I agree that the context must be examined and the interpretation of Scripture must be attained before any application to other Scripture is introduced and personal opinions are then formed.
You are correct that Jeremiah 4 is talking about Israel's spiritual condition. In fact, I believe that all the way from Jeremiah 2:1-20:18 concerns prophecies that are addressed to the people of Judah and Israel.
Through Jeremiah, God is letting His people know that they forgot what He remembers in Jeremiah 2:2-3.
In the particular passage of Jeremiah 4:19-31, God is letting His people know that they have become "sottish" = stupid. They have even forgotten how God had once made the earth to become 'without form, and void' (covered with water) and took His light away from the heavens: How He destroyed that first earth and heaven age due to the rebellion of Satan.
The four "I beheld" ( Jeremiah 4:23-26) are the words of God Himself, not Jeremiah, and I believe that He is referring to the condition the earth is found in at Genesis 1:2. I don't think this is a future punishment of Israel, but a reminder of the great Judgment from that time period.
The word "void" is found only twice in Scripture in the form of the Hebrew word "tohuw" meaning a 'vacuity,' an indistinguishable 'ruin.' That is Genesis 1:2 and Jeremiah 4:23.
You answer so many questions and are a help to many people on this site, and to myself as well, many thanks.
I don't want to bother you with two more questions, but I am typing this out, so.......
I am wondering if you believe in three earth and heaven ages?
Is there a time period before Satan's punishment in the Garden of Eden that you place his fall for his conflict with God?
God's word reveals to us that the earth was "without form, and void." That is found in Jeremiah 4:23. Many people that worship God and Jesus understand this to have happened in the first earth age.
We know the phrase "without form, and void," from Genesis 1:2, and it means 'completely covered with water,' which is what the earth was before the 6 days of re-creation by God.
The 'Scriptural proof' you are requesting from Word 76 concerning people on earth a long time age can be found in Jeremiah 4:25, as God states that there was "no man." This is not reference to the flood of Noah's day, as Noah, his family, and animals, survived the flood. Neither was the heaven black or light taken from the earth at the flood of Noah's time. Neither were all the birds gone.
God declares to His children that they are "sottish," meaning foolish, because they do not care for or desire "understanding" of His word. God then reminds them, and reveals to us, how the earth came to be "without form, and void" and the heavens gave "no light."
We are also told that God did not make a "full end" of that destruction, i.e. the 6 days of re-creation in Genesis 1.
Given in ( Jeremiah 4:22 - 29) is information as to HOW God destroyed and made "desolate" the earth, and that He withdrew His light from the heavens. WHY His "fierce anger" was kindled can be found in chapter 14 of Isaiah ( Isaiah 14:1 - 32). Prophecy concerning the restoration of Israel is given. Within this prophecy, Satan is addressed symbolically as "Lucifer" (look at Isaiah 14:12 - 20)
The word of God does not declare that Eve had 'fraternal twins,' the point being made is that it is possible. Science states that it is possible to have twins with different fathers. I believe this could be a possibility.
We learn and teach with love! Nobody knows everything about Scripture, and we try to understand other peoples points of view with compassion and guidance.
Bible doesn't say "don't paint eyes," but it is vain meaning it is not important. What is important is the spirit and good works. So you can paint your eyes if you want, but it is better to show people God in your life. Modesty is important.
Jeremiah 4:30 And when thou art spoiled, what wilt thou do? Though thou clothest thyself with crimson, though thou deckest thee with ornaments of gold, though thou rentest thy face with painting, in vain shalt thou make thyself fair; thy lovers will despise thee, they will seek thy life.
Proverbs 31:30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
First Timothy 2:9-10 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1. Luke 17:26-30 tells us in the last days before Jesus returns to Earth, things will go on as normal: just as they did in Lot's time. But all of a sudden God's Judgement will be poured out, as did happen to Sodom & Gomorrah, so the instruction to the Jews not to return back for their worldly goods (i.e. to preserve their lives).
2. There are many references to homosexuality in both the Old & New Testaments. Some of these are: Leviticus 20:13 (& see other verses in this chapter about the detestable acts that God abhors; also Lev chap 18); Romans 1:24-28; 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Timothy 1:8-10.
In reference to wearing of make-up: even though passages such as 1 Timothy 2:9,10 & 1 Pet 3:3,4 speak about the wearing of respectable, godly apparel & not about putting on of make-up, there are references to it that associate it with harlotry when beauty had to be enhanced to allure the men: 2 Kings 9:30, Jeremiah 4:30. Leviticus 19:28 speaks about printing marks & cutting of flesh which what Israel must not do (as the heathen did).
We should all know the good things the Lord says about Jerusalem. However
Jerusalem: What the Bible alone says... Part 1
Isaiah 3:8 - For Jerusalem is ruined, and Judah is fallen: because their tongue and their doings are against the LORD, to provoke the eyes of his glory.
Micah 3:10 - They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.
Jeremiah 4:14 - O Jerusalem, wash thine heart from wickedness, that thou mayest be saved. How long shall thy vain thoughts lodge within thee?
Jer 8:5 - Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they hold fast deceit, they refuse to return.
Jer 9:11 - And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.
Jer 13:27 - I have seen thine adulteries, and thy neighings, the lewdness of thy whoredom, and thine abominations on the hills in the fields. Woe unto thee, O Jerusalem! wilt thou not be made clean? when shall it once be?
Jer 19:3 - And say, Hear ye the word of the LORD, O kings of Judah, and inhabitants of Jerusalem; Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, the which whosoever heareth, his ears shall tingle.
Jer 23:14 - I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.
Jer 44:9 - Have ye forgotten the wickedness of your fathers, and the wickedness of the kings of Judah, and the wickedness of their wives, and your own wickedness, and the wickedness of your wives, which they have committed in the land of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem?
Concerning the three heaven and earth AGES; reference will again be pointed toward the entire chapter of 2nd Peter chapter 3. This might give you a clearer understanding of these separate DISPENSATIONS OF TIME (not the formation of three separate heavens and earths). For reference I will again state that "the world that then was" ( 2 Peter 3:6) refers to the first dispensation of time. "The heavens and earth which are now" ( 2 Peter 3:7) refers to the second dispensation of time (the time we are presently living in from Adam until now). And "a new heavens and a new earth" ( 2 Peter 3:13) refer to the time period that all God fearing humans are waiting for; also look at Isaiah 65:17, Isaiah 66:12, Revelations 21:1.
My question concerning Satan brings into light the three dispensations of time; as Scripture would be most difficult to understand without comprehension of them.
The fall of Satan happened in the first earth and heaven age and was the reason for the end of that particular time period. Information regarding this can be found (as you stated) in Isaiah 14:12-20, Isaiah 45:18, 19, Jeremiah 4:22-29, and Ezekiel 28:12-19, as they are descriptive figurative statements revealing him to us. Not a page of God's word could be turned without the use of figurative language; which is employed to emphasize a truth and reveal a deeper understanding of the topic being discussed.
Therefore, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." Genesis 1:1. That was the first earth age.
Found in first half of Genesis 1:2 is the result of the end of the first dispensation of time (due to the rebellion of Satan); hence, the earth was (became) without form and void.
Found in the second half of Genesis 1:2 is the first act of the second dispensation of time; hence, the Spirit of God moving upon the waters.
Mishael on earth destruction and restoration on 1 Timothy 3 - 4 years ago
I stayed up most of last night, being led through BIBLE SCRIPTURES, that back up what the teacher is teaching. It is painstakingly slow, And biblically SOUND.
I would not have even listened to it if it didn't have scriptural foundation. The teacher uses the Hebrew to explain the events that happened. I do not know why I had NEVER heard this expanded teaching before, at church, but I have now. I still have 3 hours to listen to!
Here are some scripture passages you'll want to mark for that study. At one point I just began to write all over the page margins :/
This may interest you to listen to it on YouTube later.
Genesis 1, Job 1:8, restoration of earth in Genesis,
Jeremiah 4;23-28
Jeremiah 4:26 Gods anger
Isaiah 24:1 Is pre-Adam; God turned earth upside down,
Job 9:1-9 earth frozen ball of ice
Revelation ch 6
Job 38. Science has proved the Bible is accurate;
Deu. 32:4 Gods work is perfect
Isa 45:18
Eccl. 3:11
Psalm 18:30
Genesis verses 6-9 restoration not creation
Genesis 1-2 earth not 6 thousand years old; it's billions, what science proved.
I had all the prophetic scriptures boxed; I just didn't know how the fit in. When it says former inhabitants and people's, those are the 1/3 angels that followed Lucifer.
Isaiah 14:17 20 spoken by demons to Lucifer
Satan was in hell when Adam was created. He was turned into a snake. Was in the garden Ezekiel 28:13
Ezekiel 28: 1-19 Lucifer>Satan
Lucifer went from Archangel/ covering Cherub. God>Holy Spirit>Jesus>Lucifer
4th in line to the throne. Isa.14:12
YouTube. WAR IN THE HEAVENLIES, by Benny Hinn. 5 hour teaching
Why do we need to put this together so we can understand it?? Because people ask questions. And..,it's very important to Satan. We need to know HOW he came to be loose on the earth; after Adam and after Jesus'S death on the Cross.
For myself and you, we have a responsibility to piece this together as it really happened.
23 I beheld the earth(Israel), and, lo, it was without form, and void( Genesis 1:2); and the heavens(Eph.1:3-8 combined with Genesis 1:1), and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains...they trembled, the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld,and, lo,there was no man,and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
The verse 24 is an event to happen in near future, it is linked with Revelation 6:14-17, and it is linked to the opening of the sixth seal.
Get ready, there will be a WAR against the body of the red Dragon, a religious and satanic MONSTER having 7 heads, 10 horns and a terribel TAIL as was prophesied by Daniel:
Daniel 2:44-45
44 And in the days of these kings shall the GOD of heaven set up a kingdom( Revelation 11:15-18), which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great GOD hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
Get ready
GOD bless
"Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
Jeremiah 4:25
"I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled."
"Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished
There are many scriptures like as this one. I do believe that the heavens are 3 separate but physical and spiritual heavens. That we see and that we won't see unless we are born again...
Jesue said Matt 5:20
the expression of the Scrip implies obedience,, for Matt 7:21 to enter His works that's been prepared for us from the foundation of the world. Ephesians 2:10 which is these works of righteousness of Titus 3:5 that comes to us by His mercy towards us.
What are His works, the first is 'repentance" God Spirit work upon one soul, convincing one of their sins, which springs from the spirit of unbelief, that comes from the devil, his influnece upon one's heart, & keeps one in his kingdom of disobedience & all who plead for sin & are convince we're not to be delivered from it in this life is of the devil, are deluded, deceived & believe a lie,
2 Thessalonians 2:11 their faith is a life & why? Because they did not choose to become lovers of the Truth. 2 Thessalonians 2:10,11
I could go on with this vein of Truth that's Scriptural sound, with sound reasoning. His Spirit Witness in your own hearts witnesses to the Truth that's being reveal. the question is will you receive Him?
Friends, for the love of your eternal souls, & for the love of Christ soften your heart by Jeremiah 4:3 thorns, the corruptible seed of the devil & Hosea 10:12 the free gift, the Word of Righteousness, the incorruptible Seed of Rom 5:17 & receive Him
in love & truth
The liberty that you indirectly or directly speaking of, is an allowance or plead to continue in sin, resulting in a form of godliness but denying the power to make you truly godly. Your book learning that you so greatly esteem, has veiled you to shun the cross. Rom 8:5; Philippians 3:3; Philippians 3:18,19; No wonder Holy Spirit led me into mentioning the cross in our previous discussion, which you says, you didn't understand why I would mention this as relating to our topic. John 1:5; Reread.
Sad to say, as of now, these things maybe hidden from you & according to your faith, so is it being done unto you, for how can an unclean faith bring forth a pure vessel, 2 Timothy 2:21;
God in His great love for you is reaching out to you, I have not spoken from myself, but waited for His counsel in all our conversations, this is O & NT pattern; I've spoken plainly & felt from the beginning in reading your testimony, that God has a future purpose for you, when a farmer plants a seed, it takes much nurturing & patience & pruning to bring about fruit, but it is only accomplish within us, by a sincere love for the Truth, especially when His two edged sword is facing towards us, this I have had very much experience in. There He will make us to know His wisdom that is from above. & yet, same sword that cuts, also heals, bless the Lord, don't allow His Seed to remain among thorns, Mark 4:7; Jeremiah 4:3,4; Rev 18:4;
There is not a Scripture reference where we are ever instructed to pray to those who have already died. But there are Scripture references that tell us not to do such things. Leviticus 19:26 is one reference. There are many others. Praying to those who have died is prohibited by Scripture because it has to do with sorcery and divination.
A saint is anyone who believes the Gospel of Jesus and in Him for salvation. So, all believers alive today are saints, as are all the believers who have died. Only the regenerative and salvation work of God makes one a saint. No one who has died before us is any more saintly than any other believer because it is the righteousness of Jesus imputed upon us that makes us holy.
We are to pray to God alone. We certainly can ask other believers to pray for us. Scripture instructs us to pray for one another.
So, Gilbert, there is only one Mediator between God and man, Jesus. So it is in His name that we pray to the Father. We need no other go-between (mediator) but Jesus. It can be difficult to shed some of the practices of Catholicism that are contrary to Scripture, but praying to saints who are dead is one practice every Catholic needs to stop doing because it violates Scripture and substitutes another mediator between God and man in the place of Jesus.
Please see context: Deuteronomy 10:16, Deuteronomy 30:6, even in old testament men have argued their holiness, set apart status, (in the flesh) yet GOD said even then; it's about the heart. Jeremiah 4:4, Jeremiah 9:25, = Romans 2:29, Romans 3:30, Romans 4:11, 1Corinthians 7:18,
Galatians 3:28,
They were still arguing circumcision, not equality in GOD. Acts 11:2, Galatians 2:12,
New= 2Corinthians 5:17,
Hopefully these are helpful
But then: Jeremiah 3:12, Jeremiah 12:15, Isaiah 51:11, Isaiah 35:10, Isaiah 44:22, Isaiah 55:7, John 3:15-21,
Even today we see hypocrisy but Jesus already knew, lived it & gave us direction : Matthew 23, Matthew 25:31-46,
Hopefully these are helpful
Here in Jeremiah 4:23-26, we read the words, "I beheld". And this tells us that Jeremiah was given a vision of impending disaster so it was Jeremiah himself that made these utterances. A disaster so great, that it would be likened to the state of the Earth before God made it habitable for living creatures ( Genesis 1:2). And then the LORD speaks in verse 27, "For thus hath the LORD said (speaking of the coming judgement), The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end." Even though the Earth (the land that Judah inhabited) will be destitute of vitality, of light, & of living creatures, God would not annihilate it altogether. For one day in the future, Judah would return to their land.
Maybe a stupid question but...,
Who is speaking here??
I can't tell if it is God or not.
Jeremiah 20:1-2, Jeremiah 21:1-2, king Zedekiah, Jeremiah 22, Jeremiah 24:1, Jeconiah son of Jehoiakim King of Judah, Jeremiah 25:1-3, 4th yr. of Johoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah . Jeremiah 32:1-2, Jeremiah 34:1-7,
Prophetic promise: Jeremiah 23:3-7, Jeremiah 30:3-4, Jeremiah 31, Jeremiah 33:7-17,
Jeremiah 29, note Jeremiah 29:1-4,
Daniel was taken into captivity as young boy, Daniel 1:1, Daniel 9:1-2, Jeremiah 29:10, but looks to have returned in Ezra 8:2
Note: Jeremiah 37:1-3, king Zedekiah instead, Coniah only mentioned here & Jeremiah 22:24,28, not in Isaiah or other Books in Bible of this account, including the Books of Kings, nor the Books of Chronicles.
Hebrews 5, Hebrews 6, Hebrews 7,
Hopefully these are helpful in your study
The 5th & 6th angels sound in Rev. 9, Revelation 9:1,13, It's not until Revelation 10, the 7th will sound Revelation 10:7,
1Corinthians 15:52, Jeremiah 4:13, Daniel 7:13, Zephaniah 1, Zephaniah 1:15,16, Amos 5:18-20, Matthew 24:3-51, Mark 13:4-37, Revelation 1:7, Mark 14:60-62, Matthew 26:62-64, Revelation 10:1-7, Revelation 14,
1Thessalonians 1:9,10, 1Thessalonians 2:19, John 17, 1Thessalonians 3:4, 1Thessalonians 4:13-18, 1Thessalonians 5, 2Thessalonians 1, 2Thessalonians 2, 2Timothy 2, 2Timothy 3, 2Timothy 3:12, 2Timothy 4:1-8, Titus 2:13-15, 2Peter 2:4-9, 2Peter 3:9-18,
Hopefully these are helpful to this discussion
Jeremiah 4:13, Daniel 7:13, Joel 2, Zephaniah 1, note: Zephaniah 1:14-17, Matthew 25:31-46, Revelation 1:7, Amos 5:18-20
Matthew 24:3-51, Mark 13:4-37,
Jeremiah 4:16
Make ye mention to the nations; behold, publish against Jerusalem, that watchers come from a far country, and give out their voice against the cities of Judah.
Daniel 4:17
This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
Watcher is a type of biblical angel. Watcher occurs in both plural and singular forms in the Book of Daniel, where reference is made to their holiness.
The APOCRYPHA of Enoch refer to both good and bad Watchers, with a primary focus on the rebellious ones.
"In the Book of Enoch, the watchers are angels dispatched to Earth to watch over the humans. They soon begin to LUST for human women and, at the prodding of their leader Samyaza, defect en masse to illicitly instruct humanity and procreate among them.
They created Human/Angel Hybrids called the Nephilim. Fallen Ones - Watchers. They are real and they were wiped out by the Flood in Noah's time.
They aren't mentioned anymore after the narrative that they created giants after lusting after women.
If you go to the book of Enoch, they are imprisoned.
The first thing God created is TIME.
We know the earth is billions of years old by artifacts, etc. We have to accept the fact that the Bible is about Jesus Christ. God did not choose to write a Book about Earths formation.
I believe He meant for us to discover a truth: that SOMEONE made all of this. Read Romans 1
Time was created. For mankind; and times and seasons. Read Psalms 33:6-9; Jeremiah 4:23; Isaiah 24:1, 40:12. Job 38 is helpful too.
You are going to enjoy studying so much more if you'll get a study Bible, with CENTER COLUMN references (center of each page); with study helps like concordance, maps, lists. I saw some on Amazon the other day on sale. King James Version. :D
Always, always ask the Holy Spirit to Teach you what you are studying. That is Him in Genesis 1:2
He was awaiting Gods purpose, and the Word of God (Jesus) to speak forth.
You have to be born again, Baptized into the Holy Spirit; to be taught Bible personally by Him.
Jesus went through the Cross also, to give us the indwelling Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost. Jesus said, unless I go away he (Holy Spirit) Comforter, Teacher, Convictor of sins, cannot come. He's as real as the nose on your face. study HIs Gifts. You can ask for the best gift. He knows exactly what you need.
I have a really special reveal on the Holy Spirit: He sings. I sing to Him and it probably hurts His ears, so we sing together. Why do we not enter into His presence and just listen to Him?
This comment room would be on fire if we would believe what Jesus told us about the Comforter. I know why Paul thought it better to go to heaven, but he suffered to stay here so we could grow up strong in Jesus Christ.
Stop looking at this world that is dying, and turn your eyes upon Jesus! He loves us and wants us to be with Him always. Learn the Knowledge of the Holy. That's a scripture.
Mishael
It's one thing to treat water, but another to publish fake news to inflate statistics, and to publish fake 'studies' to discredit an inexpensive remedy that is 100% effective for a virus that has been tested safe and used for 60+ years, but to instead push an experimental shot with a 90% negative side effect, that has caused death and then try to force it on everyone. The deaths caused by it have been concealed and mostly unpublished by the media. Whereas the a % of the normal 2.8m-3m deaths in the US have been reallocated to claim that this new virus killed them instead of the normal top culprits: abortion, heart disease, lung cancer (smoking), falling, flu, pneumonia, etc. It's pretty sick and evil levels of deceit by the media, government, and certain political parties. It's as though God is allowing this country to collapse from within, just like happened to Rome or the Mayan civilization.
The US has become Sodom and Gomorrah and God might be letting everyone suffer from their own lies and evil pushed on each other. It's really sad and depressing I have to say. When you love the country in which you live and see it being torn apart by pure evil it's hard to take. It's like watching a slow train wreck- feel powerless to do anything about it. I only can trust that God will have his will done- He will allow whatever He wants to happen to happen. I'm not proud of this country or it's direction and am embarrassed by the lies and stupidity I see from the media. People getting the virus, then still pressured into getting in injection and still wearing double masks. Jeremiah 4:22
Jeremiah 4:13-14 Behold, He shall come up as clouds, and his chariots shall be as a whirlwind: his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe unto us! for we are spoiled.
O Jerusalem, wash thine heart from wickedness, that thou mayest be saved. How long shall thy vain thoughts lodge within thee?
Thank you for your various responses.
I believe you are correct as to the speaker being Jeremiah up until ( Jeremiah 4:26).
I was wondering, though, if you believe that this is a portrayal of Israel's future punishment, the devastation of this particular punishment of earth covered in water, and no light from heaven, has not come to pass. Is this yet still a future punishment awaiting Israel? If so, then what do we do with God's covenant to Noah in Genesis 9:8-17?
As to the three earth and heaven ages, have you considered 2 Peter chapter 3.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
I believe this is reference to the 1st earth and heaven age, which ended by being "overflowed with water," i.e., becoming "without form, and void."
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
I understand this to be the 2nd heaven and earth age. Time present. From Genesis 1:2 on.
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
I believe this is the 3rd heaven and earth age we are all looking forward to.
Heaven on earth ( Revelation 21:2)
Three heaven and earth ages; One heaven and one earth.
Concerning Satan, I would give reference to Job.
Satan I believe can be considered a "son of God," because he is referenced as being among them and with them to present himself to God in Job 1:6 and again in Job 2:1.
Satan is also included as being there with God when "the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy" ( Job 38:7) in reference to the creation of earth by God.
It seems as though Satan and the other angels may have been around before the creation of the earth itself.
Thanks,
EJL
Thanks for your response concerning Jeremiah 4.
Please don't feel that you have to apologize for your disagreement with how I see these verses, as respectful discourse brings forth better understanding.
I agree that the context must be examined and the interpretation of Scripture must be attained before any application to other Scripture is introduced and personal opinions are then formed.
You are correct that Jeremiah 4 is talking about Israel's spiritual condition. In fact, I believe that all the way from Jeremiah 2:1-20:18 concerns prophecies that are addressed to the people of Judah and Israel.
Through Jeremiah, God is letting His people know that they forgot what He remembers in Jeremiah 2:2-3.
In the particular passage of Jeremiah 4:19-31, God is letting His people know that they have become "sottish" = stupid. They have even forgotten how God had once made the earth to become 'without form, and void' (covered with water) and took His light away from the heavens: How He destroyed that first earth and heaven age due to the rebellion of Satan.
The four "I beheld" ( Jeremiah 4:23-26) are the words of God Himself, not Jeremiah, and I believe that He is referring to the condition the earth is found in at Genesis 1:2. I don't think this is a future punishment of Israel, but a reminder of the great Judgment from that time period.
The word "void" is found only twice in Scripture in the form of the Hebrew word "tohuw" meaning a 'vacuity,' an indistinguishable 'ruin.' That is Genesis 1:2 and Jeremiah 4:23.
You answer so many questions and are a help to many people on this site, and to myself as well, many thanks.
I don't want to bother you with two more questions, but I am typing this out, so.......
I am wondering if you believe in three earth and heaven ages?
Is there a time period before Satan's punishment in the Garden of Eden that you place his fall for his conflict with God?
Thank You in advance,
EJL
God's word reveals to us that the earth was "without form, and void." That is found in Jeremiah 4:23. Many people that worship God and Jesus understand this to have happened in the first earth age.
We know the phrase "without form, and void," from Genesis 1:2, and it means 'completely covered with water,' which is what the earth was before the 6 days of re-creation by God.
The 'Scriptural proof' you are requesting from Word 76 concerning people on earth a long time age can be found in Jeremiah 4:25, as God states that there was "no man." This is not reference to the flood of Noah's day, as Noah, his family, and animals, survived the flood. Neither was the heaven black or light taken from the earth at the flood of Noah's time. Neither were all the birds gone.
God declares to His children that they are "sottish," meaning foolish, because they do not care for or desire "understanding" of His word. God then reminds them, and reveals to us, how the earth came to be "without form, and void" and the heavens gave "no light."
We are also told that God did not make a "full end" of that destruction, i.e. the 6 days of re-creation in Genesis 1.
Given in ( Jeremiah 4:22 - 29) is information as to HOW God destroyed and made "desolate" the earth, and that He withdrew His light from the heavens. WHY His "fierce anger" was kindled can be found in chapter 14 of Isaiah ( Isaiah 14:1 - 32). Prophecy concerning the restoration of Israel is given. Within this prophecy, Satan is addressed symbolically as "Lucifer" (look at Isaiah 14:12 - 20)
The word of God does not declare that Eve had 'fraternal twins,' the point being made is that it is possible. Science states that it is possible to have twins with different fathers. I believe this could be a possibility.
We learn and teach with love! Nobody knows everything about Scripture, and we try to understand other peoples points of view with compassion and guidance.
Word 76, right on, keep up the good studying.
Jeremiah 4:30 And when thou art spoiled, what wilt thou do? Though thou clothest thyself with crimson, though thou deckest thee with ornaments of gold, though thou rentest thy face with painting, in vain shalt thou make thyself fair; thy lovers will despise thee, they will seek thy life.
Proverbs 31:30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
First Timothy 2:9-10 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1. Luke 17:26-30 tells us in the last days before Jesus returns to Earth, things will go on as normal: just as they did in Lot's time. But all of a sudden God's Judgement will be poured out, as did happen to Sodom & Gomorrah, so the instruction to the Jews not to return back for their worldly goods (i.e. to preserve their lives).
2. There are many references to homosexuality in both the Old & New Testaments. Some of these are: Leviticus 20:13 (& see other verses in this chapter about the detestable acts that God abhors; also Lev chap 18); Romans 1:24-28; 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Timothy 1:8-10.
In reference to wearing of make-up: even though passages such as 1 Timothy 2:9,10 & 1 Pet 3:3,4 speak about the wearing of respectable, godly apparel & not about putting on of make-up, there are references to it that associate it with harlotry when beauty had to be enhanced to allure the men: 2 Kings 9:30, Jeremiah 4:30. Leviticus 19:28 speaks about printing marks & cutting of flesh which what Israel must not do (as the heathen did).
Jerusalem: What the Bible alone says... Part 1
Isaiah 3:8 - For Jerusalem is ruined, and Judah is fallen: because their tongue and their doings are against the LORD, to provoke the eyes of his glory.
Micah 3:10 - They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.
Jeremiah 4:14 - O Jerusalem, wash thine heart from wickedness, that thou mayest be saved. How long shall thy vain thoughts lodge within thee?
Jer 8:5 - Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they hold fast deceit, they refuse to return.
Jer 9:11 - And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.
Jer 13:27 - I have seen thine adulteries, and thy neighings, the lewdness of thy whoredom, and thine abominations on the hills in the fields. Woe unto thee, O Jerusalem! wilt thou not be made clean? when shall it once be?
Jer 19:3 - And say, Hear ye the word of the LORD, O kings of Judah, and inhabitants of Jerusalem; Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, the which whosoever heareth, his ears shall tingle.
Jer 23:14 - I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.
Jer 44:9 - Have ye forgotten the wickedness of your fathers, and the wickedness of the kings of Judah, and the wickedness of their wives, and your own wickedness, and the wickedness of your wives, which they have committed in the land of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem?
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Concerning the three heaven and earth AGES; reference will again be pointed toward the entire chapter of 2nd Peter chapter 3. This might give you a clearer understanding of these separate DISPENSATIONS OF TIME (not the formation of three separate heavens and earths). For reference I will again state that "the world that then was" ( 2 Peter 3:6) refers to the first dispensation of time. "The heavens and earth which are now" ( 2 Peter 3:7) refers to the second dispensation of time (the time we are presently living in from Adam until now). And "a new heavens and a new earth" ( 2 Peter 3:13) refer to the time period that all God fearing humans are waiting for; also look at Isaiah 65:17, Isaiah 66:12, Revelations 21:1.
My question concerning Satan brings into light the three dispensations of time; as Scripture would be most difficult to understand without comprehension of them.
The fall of Satan happened in the first earth and heaven age and was the reason for the end of that particular time period. Information regarding this can be found (as you stated) in Isaiah 14:12-20, Isaiah 45:18, 19, Jeremiah 4:22-29, and Ezekiel 28:12-19, as they are descriptive figurative statements revealing him to us. Not a page of God's word could be turned without the use of figurative language; which is employed to emphasize a truth and reveal a deeper understanding of the topic being discussed.
Therefore, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." Genesis 1:1. That was the first earth age.
Found in first half of Genesis 1:2 is the result of the end of the first dispensation of time (due to the rebellion of Satan); hence, the earth was (became) without form and void.
Found in the second half of Genesis 1:2 is the first act of the second dispensation of time; hence, the Spirit of God moving upon the waters.
I would not have even listened to it if it didn't have scriptural foundation. The teacher uses the Hebrew to explain the events that happened. I do not know why I had NEVER heard this expanded teaching before, at church, but I have now. I still have 3 hours to listen to!
Here are some scripture passages you'll want to mark for that study. At one point I just began to write all over the page margins :/
This may interest you to listen to it on YouTube later.
Genesis 1, Job 1:8, restoration of earth in Genesis,
Jeremiah 4;23-28
Jeremiah 4:26 Gods anger
Isaiah 24:1 Is pre-Adam; God turned earth upside down,
Job 9:1-9 earth frozen ball of ice
Revelation ch 6
Job 38. Science has proved the Bible is accurate;
Deu. 32:4 Gods work is perfect
Isa 45:18
Eccl. 3:11
Psalm 18:30
Genesis verses 6-9 restoration not creation
Genesis 1-2 earth not 6 thousand years old; it's billions, what science proved.
I had all the prophetic scriptures boxed; I just didn't know how the fit in. When it says former inhabitants and people's, those are the 1/3 angels that followed Lucifer.
Isaiah 14:17 20 spoken by demons to Lucifer
Satan was in hell when Adam was created. He was turned into a snake. Was in the garden Ezekiel 28:13
Ezekiel 28: 1-19 Lucifer>Satan
Lucifer went from Archangel/ covering Cherub. God>Holy Spirit>Jesus>Lucifer
4th in line to the throne. Isa.14:12
YouTube. WAR IN THE HEAVENLIES, by Benny Hinn. 5 hour teaching
Why do we need to put this together so we can understand it?? Because people ask questions. And..,it's very important to Satan. We need to know HOW he came to be loose on the earth; after Adam and after Jesus'S death on the Cross.
For myself and you, we have a responsibility to piece this together as it really happened.