Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.
What is interesting is the next verse which contrasts this with good works that also become clear even if they start off being hidden.
The effects of sin are what is known as bad fruit. The cause of sin is of course from a corrupt and fallen nature (see Jeremiah 17:9 on the state of a human heart without saving grace).
James 3:6 states this:
And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
This figurative expression no doubt will eventually lead to one's destruction in fire; as well as the destruction of the earth in like manner as we see stated in 2 Peter 3:10 and numerous other verses. God made everything good; but the fall of man led to death for all forms of life; as well as even the stars not being pure in His sight ( Job 25:5 seems to corroborate this with Job 15:15). He is going to create therefore a new heaven and earth where righteousness dwells ( 2 Peter 3:13 and see Revelation 21 and 22.)
God had to bring a total cure for the total corruption in what was made originally pure in His sight (see Ecclesiastes 7:29). This brought Christ part of the Godhead to personally die as our atonement and also of course to restore all nature from the fall which consummates when He returns and eventually at the end of the Millennium when the last enemy death is destroyed ( 1 Cor. 15:26). Judgment comes to the angelic realm who fell after Lucifer's rebellion. Some have already been judged ( 1 Peter 3:19-20 also read book of Jude). The rest of mankind; of course lives on borrowed time and because God is patient to ensure all His elect come to Him people try to get away with all they can ( Ecclesiastes 8:11).
A spoonful of sugar won't help this medicine go down; God's love will
Charles Robert Northup - In Reply on Job 15 - 2 years ago
What some call giving up others call believing God, Jesus is the great Physician but James 5:13Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.14Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:" 15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
Faith Pleases God_May God anoint your Faith_Receive it - In Reply on Job 15 - 2 years ago
Question: "Is it still God's will to heal all who ask to be healed as in times past?"
ANSWER
A man with leprosy came to Jesus and begged Him, If you are willing, you can make me clean. Jesus was filled with compassion. He reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing, he said. "Be clean!" ( Mark 1:40-41).
He knew that Jesus could heal him, but he asked the same question that most of us ask today, "Will He heal me?"
The greatest hindrance for many seeking healing is the uncertainty, in their mind, if it is God's will for them to be healed. While most know that God heals a few, they dont have a clear understanding of what the Word says, so they doubt, and doubt Destroys their faith. It is very difficult to have faith when the will of God is unknown. The Bible clearly teaches that healing is provided for all, but it also teaches that faith is required. Not faith that God can, but faith that God WILL heal.
PSALM 103:3, Psalm 86:5
Did it say to a few? No, it says to ALL. That he by the grace of God should taste death for every man ( Heb 2:9). Jesus tasted death not just for some, but for everyone who is willing to receive both salvation and healing.
God has planned good for us and He does not change His mind. Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever (Heb13:8). We can pray for ANYONES healing because we know healing is God's will. His Word clearly defined His will for our healing & what we need to do to receive.
Psalm 107:20
On earth, Jesus was God in a body but without His Godly power. He operated just as man (us) should operate, through the power of the Holy Spirit.
Unbelief is so strong that even Jesus was limited by the great unbelief He encountered in His hometown. Mark 6:5
It doesn't say that He would not, it says He could not, because their great unbelief, limited Him.
I hope that a couple of the Scriptures I share here may be of help to those in this quandry of whether to continue with treatment or not. If they are believers, hopefully they will find special grace to bear up & wisdom to know how to proceed. Often, being fully cast upon the Lord for His healing & availing of medical help can go hand-in-hand. I don't think that it's a demonstration of a lack of faith to continue with medical treatment as we trust the Lord for directing the minds & hands of our medical fraternity, and ultimately, it is the Lord Who heals, gives life or takes it away.
Deuteronomy 31:8; Psalm 34:17-19; Psalm 55:22; Isaiah 40:31; Isaiah 41:10; Matthew 11:28; Luke 1:37; 2 Corinthians 12:9; 1 Peter 5:7.
Not necessarily a comment but a question. I'm looking for scripture for those who are going thru dialysis. Some groups that I watch about kidney health I wont say who. There is talk about giving up and quitting dialysis. From the comment I saw from others who lost family members shocked me. What scriptures can I go to to help them cope with these feelings of giving up?
You stated men are born righteousness, My response was no one is born righteous. Being right right with God doesn't make you sinless.
Our righteousness don't purify the heart
Isaiah 64:6. But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Christ righteousness has to be imputed on to us. In that case all that truly accepted Christ should be on that list
Let's first look at the verse in Psalms YOU gave to validate your point.
""It don't quote the way you presented it"" However what you added argues my point for me..
You quoting """When an unjust person returns to God they will be justified, made just again""" Here is a few more verses to add to your quote.
2 Corinthians 5:21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Romans 3:22 . Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Isaiah 53:11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Job even disagrees with you:
Job 15:14-16. What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?
Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.
How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?
If you believe that's a list of sinless men I'm sure David would disagree with you also.
If we can be right with God our deliverance would have came from the law!!
Chad, may the Spirit grace you with his (spiritual) understanding and his (spiritual) wisdom.
Romans 8:20 For the creature (creation) was made subject to vanity, not willing, but by reason of him (the creator) who hath subjected the same (creation), in hope.
Eve sinned because she was created subject to vanity.
All flesh sins because we were created subject to vanity; but we were also created in hope.
Romans 8:21 Because the creature (creation) itself shall be delivered (by the creator) from the bondage of corruption into the glorious LIBERTY of the children of God.
Job 15:14 What is man (flesh), that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?
Job 25:4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman (flesh)?
the book of Job show you that you have to trust in God and have faith on him. He is the one who has all the power and nothing is impossible for him so he give them the choice to follow him or not .
Job went from running away from God and back into the light, the spirit never left him, he forgot about his self pity, it took a hypocrite to vain words to stir him
BSP: From John Gill's Exposition of the Bible: ... he trusts none of them with themselves, with the redemption and salvation of their souls, with the regeneration and sanctification of their hearts, and with their preservation to eternal glory; he has put those into the hands of his Son and Spirit...
Eliphaz falsely stated that Jehovah God has no faith or trust in his holy ones in verse 15. This is entirely false and he was slandering the kind of person God is.
Job 15:2 Should a wise man utter vain knowledge, and fill his belly with the east wind? Job 21:22 Shall any teach God knowledge? seeing he judgeth those that are high. Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. Psalms 33:9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.
Job 20:5-29 are a prophetic dissertation on the Anti-Christ. Compare Job 15:20,22,30. Vs 15 is a tribulation reference to Israel Jer. 50:17 . Vs 17 the second advent of Christ, Anti-Christ will not see the Millenial Reign.
This is describing Ezekiel 's prediction of Jerusalem 's desolation where an awful famine is described during the siege from Babylon. When it speaks of man 's dung, it speaks of a ceremonial pollution in the Jewish law of the worst nature. It is a reflection on the sins of mankind cp. Job 15:16
The 1611 bible says battell at Job Chapter 15:24 and the standard KJV says battle. Battell is a list of debts owed and when you consider that a King would check to see who he owes and who owes him in time of trouble then the word battell should be used at Job 15:24
All humans are guilty of this 1 Kings 8:46a (for there is no man that sinneth not). Job 15:14, 'what is man, that he should be clean?’; and he which is born of a WOMAN (Adamic nature) that he should be righteous? So until you allow Jesus into your life Today, that glory is absent. Colossians 1:27 says Christ in me the hope of Glory. Receive your glory now by saying after me 'LORD JESUS, I believe in you now, all that sacrifice was for me, I accept you today, come into my life an restore the Glory. AMEN. GOD bless you.
First Timothy 5:24 states:
Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.
What is interesting is the next verse which contrasts this with good works that also become clear even if they start off being hidden.
The effects of sin are what is known as bad fruit. The cause of sin is of course from a corrupt and fallen nature (see Jeremiah 17:9 on the state of a human heart without saving grace).
James 3:6 states this:
And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
This figurative expression no doubt will eventually lead to one's destruction in fire; as well as the destruction of the earth in like manner as we see stated in 2 Peter 3:10 and numerous other verses. God made everything good; but the fall of man led to death for all forms of life; as well as even the stars not being pure in His sight ( Job 25:5 seems to corroborate this with Job 15:15). He is going to create therefore a new heaven and earth where righteousness dwells ( 2 Peter 3:13 and see Revelation 21 and 22.)
God had to bring a total cure for the total corruption in what was made originally pure in His sight (see Ecclesiastes 7:29). This brought Christ part of the Godhead to personally die as our atonement and also of course to restore all nature from the fall which consummates when He returns and eventually at the end of the Millennium when the last enemy death is destroyed ( 1 Cor. 15:26). Judgment comes to the angelic realm who fell after Lucifer's rebellion. Some have already been judged ( 1 Peter 3:19-20 also read book of Jude). The rest of mankind; of course lives on borrowed time and because God is patient to ensure all His elect come to Him people try to get away with all they can ( Ecclesiastes 8:11).
A spoonful of sugar won't help this medicine go down; God's love will
Isn't Jesus our only hope?
King James Version (KJV)
ANSWER
A man with leprosy came to Jesus and begged Him, If you are willing, you can make me clean. Jesus was filled with compassion. He reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing, he said. "Be clean!" ( Mark 1:40-41).
He knew that Jesus could heal him, but he asked the same question that most of us ask today, "Will He heal me?"
The greatest hindrance for many seeking healing is the uncertainty, in their mind, if it is God's will for them to be healed. While most know that God heals a few, they dont have a clear understanding of what the Word says, so they doubt, and doubt Destroys their faith. It is very difficult to have faith when the will of God is unknown. The Bible clearly teaches that healing is provided for all, but it also teaches that faith is required. Not faith that God can, but faith that God WILL heal.
PSALM 103:3, Psalm 86:5
Did it say to a few? No, it says to ALL. That he by the grace of God should taste death for every man ( Heb 2:9). Jesus tasted death not just for some, but for everyone who is willing to receive both salvation and healing.
God has planned good for us and He does not change His mind. Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever (Heb13:8). We can pray for ANYONES healing because we know healing is God's will. His Word clearly defined His will for our healing & what we need to do to receive.
Psalm 107:20
On earth, Jesus was God in a body but without His Godly power. He operated just as man (us) should operate, through the power of the Holy Spirit.
Unbelief is so strong that even Jesus was limited by the great unbelief He encountered in His hometown. Mark 6:5
It doesn't say that He would not, it says He could not, because their great unbelief, limited Him.
GO TO THIS WEBSITE read the entire teaching. Ok?
GET BIBLE ANSWERS dot ORG
click on Topical List, choose H
Drop & choose: Healing, Will God Heal Me
I hope that a couple of the Scriptures I share here may be of help to those in this quandry of whether to continue with treatment or not. If they are believers, hopefully they will find special grace to bear up & wisdom to know how to proceed. Often, being fully cast upon the Lord for His healing & availing of medical help can go hand-in-hand. I don't think that it's a demonstration of a lack of faith to continue with medical treatment as we trust the Lord for directing the minds & hands of our medical fraternity, and ultimately, it is the Lord Who heals, gives life or takes it away.
Deuteronomy 31:8; Psalm 34:17-19; Psalm 55:22; Isaiah 40:31; Isaiah 41:10; Matthew 11:28; Luke 1:37; 2 Corinthians 12:9; 1 Peter 5:7.
Thank you in advance.
Stephen Ross McLaughlin
Job 15:11, are the c. Of God small.
Romans 15:5, the God of c.
2 Thessalonians 2:16, everlasting c.
I am curious to know where you encountered this concept.
To be equal with God we must first judge God's value and merit.
One quick response is that the Jews sought to stone Jesus when they perceived His claim of equality with God, as in John 5:18.
Also look at
I John 3:20 - God is greater than our hearts
Psalm 61:2 - God is higher than us
Psalm 89:27 - God will make Christ higher than the kings of the Earth
Ecclesiastes 5:8 - God is higher than the highest
If you will know them by their fruits, let's look to our ways;
Isaiah 55:9 - God's ways are infinitely higher than ours
Job 15:6 - We are unclean
Isaiah 64:6 - NOTHING we do could measure up to God's righteousness
That is a very big and significant thing to say, to claim anyone as an equal with God.
As a comparison, there is one very heretical sect which believes we will judge God.
Clearly, just based upon the references I have listed, their claim is not the least bit credible.
Such statements cannot stand of their own merit nor of that of their speaker.
Equality with God or standing in judgment of God would be enormous claims requiring substance to back them up.
Big claims are either big truths or big falsehoods. Not everyone can determine the difference.
You may or may not be a great theologian or an academic authority.
Even such titles wouldn't be enough for a common joe like me.
Being that this is a Biblical site, answers of that magnitude carry credibility only when they are backed by Scriptural reference.
Otherwise;
If I wanted to debate you, it would be difficult because I don't see here where your basis is or how to clarify a dissent.
If I wanted to agree with you, well, again, your basis is not shown, so I would be at some degree of loss in composing a reply.
On any subject, but especially such a profound claim, let authority be Sola Scriptura and let Scripture interpret Scripture.
You stated men are born righteousness, My response was no one is born righteous. Being right right with God doesn't make you sinless.
Our righteousness don't purify the heart
Isaiah 64:6. But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Christ righteousness has to be imputed on to us. In that case all that truly accepted Christ should be on that list
Let's first look at the verse in Psalms YOU gave to validate your point.
""It don't quote the way you presented it"" However what you added argues my point for me..
You quoting """When an unjust person returns to God they will be justified, made just again""" Here is a few more verses to add to your quote.
2 Corinthians 5:21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Romans 3:22 . Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Isaiah 53:11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Job even disagrees with you:
Job 15:14-16. What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?
Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.
How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?
If you believe that's a list of sinless men I'm sure David would disagree with you also.
If we can be right with God our deliverance would have came from the law!!
Romans 8:20 For the creature (creation) was made subject to vanity, not willing, but by reason of him (the creator) who hath subjected the same (creation), in hope.
Eve sinned because she was created subject to vanity.
All flesh sins because we were created subject to vanity; but we were also created in hope.
Romans 8:21 Because the creature (creation) itself shall be delivered (by the creator) from the bondage of corruption into the glorious LIBERTY of the children of God.
Job 15:14 What is man (flesh), that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?
Job 25:4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman (flesh)?
G
Do you have a Bible comment or question?
Posting comments is currently unavailable due to high demand on the server.
Please check back in an hour or more. Thank you for your patience!
Report Comment
Which best represents the problem with the comment?