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This seems to be a different topic. We live in a fallen sinful world which is the domain of satan. We could have been puppets but were lovingly given freewill to choose how to conduct ourselves. There is such thing as love, morality, and consequences, but we sin regularly. God Jesus came here to earth and people murdered him. Through this he paid our debt of sin giving us hope of life in heaven.

"Job and what his God did to him" - why do you assume God harmed Job instead of Satan? If someone commits a heinous crime today would you not attribute that to someone who was deceived by Satan into doing evil? God doesn't tempt or deceive us, Satan does. Do you think Satan is bad?

Disagree. Satan is evil, God is good and loves you and everyone. If your family member gets sick, do you blame God? Tornado hurts your child, blame God? Cancer, blame God? The story of Job was a special circumstance in the old testament before Jesus died for our sins and gave us grace. Today Satan has power to wreak havok on your life, but not to kill you. Jesus paid your debt- is that not love?

Why does everyone have to quote lines from that book, the Bible, written by 40 authors over a period of 1500 years? Don't you think if God who is capable of doing absolutely everything, he would have written the bible himself, in every language and distributed it throughout the world in hours, not years, if it is truly his book? After all, didn't write the 10 commandments on stone?

Yes, very unloving. We can only deal with reality and reality says that family is everything to us simple minded mortals. This test was depraved and heinous, so much so, I repeat God could never do this. Although the God from the old testament is really a Bastard. My God is good, kind, loving and considerate of our human ways and feelings. This story is a hoax. "Believe not for they lie."

Rube, Keep this simple. Don't over analyze it. The story is about a God and if the man needs to explain what a God is then he will . The story has a Satan and so goes that also and the victim is called Job or Jim I don't care . Just listen to the story, and you tell me if you think what this God and Satan conspired to do to Job or Jim was fair or reasonable or for sport or kind or evil?

Ok Adam, let me finish this short story about prayer. After hearing these remarks after every slaughter, it dawned on me that we could be doing much better with our prayer. So, I contacted some of the clergy and suggested, we pray a advance for no more of these heinous crimes. Well, what in God's name happened? p.s. How about the survivor who thanks God for saving her. What about the dead? Thank?

Thomas it's good your seeking answers, I was deceived as a Teenager that God and the Bible were just made up and I believed this for 30 years but the Evidence was too Great. Later although I didn't doubt God's Reality I became very Confused by all the differant Teaching so I asked for His Wisdom and Wow what an Amazing difference. If wanted Thomas I will seek to answer your asked questions - Anne

I would have to be put in that situation. Common sense would have to take over. I would probably listen to him but I would ask where did you get this info. God, who I wouldn't know at that time, gave me the power of discernment if I didn't know about God, I'd not know anything about this man. Show me proof-Who is this Job who is God? Who are you? God would handle the matter. I DO believe.

Ruben, I don't want to argue with you. Obviously you're a true believer and a person of strong conviction but just think for a moment, as if you never heard of a God. Say perhaps you lived on an island and all you knew was the sun, moon, stars and the ocean. Then a man appears and tells you about Job and what his God did to him. What then, would you think of this God? Honestly.

Adam, I do appreciate your kind words and advice but let me tell you a short story. Remember when all of those innocent concert attendees were slaughtered in Las Vegas? Well, I sat and listened to the responses by officials, witnesses and clergy. What I heard over, and over again was, "Our prayer and thoughts are with" and from those who survived, "Thank God I am alive". Out of space Finish later

Job didn't sin by blaming God, but you do? God allowed Satan to test Job. While God views all life as precious, He likely has a different perspective than us regarding life on Earth- we view it as the most important thing ever, yet is described as so temporary it's a vapor James 4:14, and Philippians 1:21. If the children went straight to paradise in heaven do you feel that is "unloving"?

Hi Thomas, that's great that you're reading the Bible and seeking God's truth. Why not just ask God through prayer for wisdom and discernment to know what you should take literally? It's true that Jesus often spoke using parables which are allegorical stories to influence and make a point. There are obvious metaphors in the Bible too: John 6:54 - we don't literally eat Jesus' flesh and blood, etc.

Also Tutus, Jas 5:11,12. We don't forgive God--He will forgive us of those who believe NOT and what our Lord has done for His children.

Thomas Hills IV-- Job 1:1, 6-12 Job 2:1-6. Satan said he could have Job eating out of his hand turn him away from God. God told Satan to have a try but save his life. This was to show Satan how Job loved worshiped God. Job suffered but never lost faith in the lord. Satan lost. No old time tale--the bible is true correct.

Dear Titus I forgot one point. If God can write the 10 commandments than how come he couldn't write the Bible. Don't you think it strange and bitter to allow so many souls to be lost over that 1500 years when he could have written in every language and distributed bible after bible maybe even signed and just get it done? Why hasn't anyone asked this question?

Wonderful? Do you truly believe that you would be fine with God if he killed your children just to win a wager with the Devil? Oh, that's right, he replaced them later with different children. I guess that makes everything all right. A truly "Loving God" would never play this game with Satan.

You are absolutely correct. It took 1500 years and 40 authors to write the bible, most of which was stories told, not in writing. So, are we to believe "Litterally" James or other versions of the bible word for word? Fables, parables, folk lore or poems all written to put fear in the hearts of uncivilized, barbaric, ignorant and simple minded people. Do you really think God was that inhumane?

Nowhere in God's word is this account stated as a folk story. All of the books refer to the events as literal happenings. By discrediting the hardships of Job you are also discrediting James 5:10-11.

Bravo, couldn't agree with you more. This is a story of evil doings. One bordering on a sadistic and depraved mind. How can anyone who believes in God believe this?

Ultimately, the Book of Job is not primarily about the suffering of man but about the greater sovereignty of God in the midst of man's suffering.

In this book of Job we also see commitment, character, trust, what you can gain in true worship. Job understood that material possession have no place in his heart his mind set was all Jesus don't matter challenges he faced.

Job was a man who had plenty faith. he knew that no matter what his circumstances were God was always with him!

And according to Proverbs 8 chapter, by Wisdom did YHWH created the heavens, earth, the sea and all that in them is

Okay, I have one question, who did J.C pray too as he was about to die on that cross? That my friend, is the True and Living Creator, the Almighty and the Only One Worthy to receive Glory and Praises, He NEVER DIED, and His pedigree can be found in the Old Testament, starting in Genesis 1:1- HALLELUYAH- OH His Name is Yahweh!

See here the envious devil as he blasphemes the Holy Ghost and GOD, who created all things by Jesus Christ: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, All things were created by him, and for him: Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

jesus, is not the Creator of the World, there fore, you will be judged by the One who Created, jesus- the one he prayed to as he was dying, asking why have You Yahweh the True LIVING Creator forsaken me cursed it the man that hanged from a tree

due to the bible being translated into several languages, and the use of different vowels or lack of, we have a disconnect from the native language of the bible, it was all translated from the Hebrew language, in Hebrew there are no J, so how could the Creator's name begin with the letter, J. The purest form is Y, like YHWH! we use Yah as a way of saying it, even little babies from birth cry Yah

God stated that Job was perfect and upright,and one that feared God, and eshewed evil.
Satan said, But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.


Satan is an accuser.
He is the Father of lies.

God told the truth about Job.

King James Bible
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.God took away the shame.