Discuss Job 26 Page 2

Job is declaring how mighty and powerful God is and there is so much more that we do not understand.

Wesley's notes exclude any and all other possibilities. It is easy to believe what the literal aspect says, but the so called fallen angels, able to fly through to space and come to earth, now cannot fly anywhere for safety but drown and die as weak and helpless beings do. The Ana, maybe the inhabitants of under the earth Job is referring to, a race of beings living within the Earth, described by Sir Bulwer Lytton in his "The power of the coming race" describes an amazing experience he had while going down into a mine with his friend. He sheds a light upon the possibility that the so called "fallen angels" were in fact beings from outer space and for a reason beyond the scope of this comment ended up on earth. Furthermore, Michael Tsarion, shares on youtube many quotes from old manuscripts in which the destruction of Lucifer, sometimes called Tiamat, or Phaeton by the old Greeks, is described, a massive mostly ocean planet between Mars and Jupiter, now the asteroid field, that shone like the sun, hence the ancients description of it in Isaiah 14:12, "how art thou fallen from heaven thou Lucifer son of the morning..." so the Deluge was actually the frozen bits of Tiamat's body raining down on Earth causing worldwide floods, not God destroying everyone on Earth because of their sin. It is forbidden for a believer to open his her mind to any other possibility other than God send the floods...and wash their hands of everything else.

Moses, the author of Job is stating that perhaps life forms evolved from the black depths of the sea and emerged upon dry land as a living creature and it is God who gave it a living spirit as he does to every living thing. The is undoubtably among the greatest prose ever written so discern it from the soul as one does with poetry.

There is a void in space above the North Pole. It is huge it 's considered a gap between galaxies. Others have been found but none as big as the one North of us. The Earth is hanging on nothing it would seem. The pillars of the heavens are also quaking. Gravity contains vibrations going at the speed of light. Seismic readings "Quakes " are also vibrations. Gravity is the pillar of Heaven. It is quaking. The earth has no pillar to the north because it 's basically void of matter so it has no gravity to hang on. Just nothing. You can interpret things however you want that 's fine. Why don 't you want people to believe the Bible?

"dead things are formed from under the waters " what is this, is this speaking of fossils what came before ADAM and EVE? is this all living things "crept out of the deep " did man evolve from what came from the deep and turned to dust eons before man was created from the dust? plants and animals were completely formed at CREATION, the sun and the moon also were completely formed at CREATION I don 't know what is " dead things are formed from beneath under the waters "?

verse 5 "Dead things are formed from under the waters, and the inhabitants thereof " is this a reference to EVOLUTION?

This is the marvellous works of the Almighty which Job was praising. After he (Job) went through afflictions, he thereafter saw how God saved his life with His own power, hence declarations of what He (GOD) did before the ages.

In the book of Job there are several statements that are also scientific facts. For example Job 26:7 He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing. Two correct facts, the earth floats in space and in the milky way to the north of earth there are far fewer stars than to the south. There are others and so I believe this verse while it has meaning in its context, also tells us that the moon does not shine, it only reflects.

Does not matter how God does things only God matters!

Ken,
What about where the author says "... and hangeth the earth upon nothing"?

What "Scientific Fact or Principle" is, "There is a place void of stars in the North"? If this is being portrayed as a statement that the earth is unsupported then a few short verses later "The pillars of the heavens quake" would seem to belie any advanced knowledge of how gravity and the Cosmos works.

THE GREAT DEEP: When the Deluge overwhelmed the earth, the bodies of the offspring of the fallen angels perished, though their disembodied spirits lived on. When the waters of the flood receded, the place of their abode still remained under the sea and it became the place of their perpetual grave, where their spirits were chained in the darkness of the great deep. Perhaps, too, the fallen angels themselves, because of their sins, were chained in the same location where the spirits of their offspring found a grave, for Peter tells us God did not spare the angels that sinned, but cast them into chains of darkness. ( 2 Peter 2:4)

It serves as an proof that earth is round before men discovered it.

TO DEREK: WHAT SCIENTIFIC DATA HAS BEEN PROVEN WRONG?????

1. The Earth is Round:
2500 years before the earth was proven to be round, the bible revealed the truth in the following passages: JOB 26:10, PROVERBS 8:27, and ISAIAH 40:22

2. Paths of The Sea: (Insert from www.bible.ca)
Matthew Maury (1806-1873) is considered the father of oceanography. His daughter was reading a portion of the Bible to him. While listening, he noticed the expression "paths of the sea" in Psalms 8:8. Upon his recovery, Maury took God at his word and went looking for these paths. We are indebted to his discovery of the warm and cold continental currents. His book on oceanography is still considered a basic text on the subject and is still used in universities. Maury used the Bible as a guide to scientific discovery.

3. The Hydro-logic Water Cycle (Insert from www.bible.ca)--The water cycle was not fully understood until about 30 B.C. by a Roman engineer named Marcus Vitruvius. Yet every aspect of the water cycle was fully revealed to mankind in 1600 B.C.! The Bible's description is in perfect harmony with modern science. Eccl 1:6-7; 11:3; Job 26:8; Amos 9:6. Vitruvius was 1600 years too late!

4. 6 Days of Creation: (Insert from www.bible.ca)--If a fair maiden kisses a frog which instantly changes into a handsome prince, we would call it a fairy tale. But if the change takes 40 million years, we call it evolution. We often hear that science has proved evolution. Nothing could be further from the truth. You see, people often confuse scientific fact with scientific theory. Current scientific theory does conflict with creation. But the facts of science do not! There are many scientists who fully accept Biblical creation. Surprised?

The theory of evolution says that over millions of years simple life forms (one celled creatures) slowly evolved into complex life forms (fish), and that one kind of animal evolved into another kind (ape to man). Genesis, on the other hand, says that all life forms were created in six, 24 hour days. Genesis chapter one states 10 times that life forms can only reproduce after their own kind (ape to ape, man to man). All the observable facts of science strongly support the Bible's claim that it is impossible for one kind to reproduce a different kind. The truth is, there is absolutely no tangible evidence to support evolution from any area of science, just theory and a wild imagination!

But if the Bible is wrong and man actually did evolve in small graduations over a long period of time, we should find ample fossil evidence of links in intermediate stages of transition. For decades, evolutionists have searched for fossils of these links to prove biblical creation wrong. Although millions of fossils have been unearthed, not even one missing link has ever been found. Has it ever occurred to you that this is the reason why scientists refer to them as missing links?

Even Charles Darwin realized the difficulty missing links gave his theory. Darwin wrote in his book, Origin Of The Species, "Why, if species have descended from other species by fine graduation, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms? Why is not all nature in confusion, instead of the species being, as we see them, well defined?" The reason we have never found any missing links is quite simple. Darwin's theory of evolution is wrong!
Here in your own words "The books that contain any scientific data have been completely wrong." You might want to take a look at the bible for yourself before you make assumptions! I rest my case. FOR ANY OTHERS WHO HAVE SCIENTIFIC DATA FROM THE BIBLE THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN WRONG PLEASE LET ME KNOW!