Discuss Job 30

Psalm 88. Probably the most depressing passage in all scripture as to a personal viewpoint of experience in this life. This certainly reminds us of the book of Job. (see Job 30:15 in particular).

Verse 4 seems to indicate that this person is near unto death and is further supported by verse 6 where it seems the pit of Sheol is nigh. We see that those in that state are "cut off from thy hand" therefore there is no more mercy from God at that point. We are reminded of Isaiah 38:18 and many other passages which show that the dead will not praise God (verse 10). Furthermore; destruction and forgetfulness also describe the fate of those in hell (verse 11-12). Those things which affected our emotions and desires on earth ( Ecclesiastes 9:5) will not exist as the body returns to the dust. However; the soul lives on and for the unregenerate in conscious torment (see Lazarus and the unnamed rich man ( Luke 16:19-31).

Nonetheless; we must seek His face while He can be found. Job's state wasn't hopeless; and neither is anyone in Christ who truly repents and seeks the Lord. The enemy certainly can have us ensnared in sin; or oppressing us with feelings of hopelessness. We need to confess sin and seek His face; as well as trusting His promises despite circumstances. That is good advice surely in war; famine and other horrendous circumstances that bring us near death as well as seeing death all around us. These passages should remind us to seek those who may be disfigured by disease and to demonstrate God's love through service wherever we can.

Job 19:17,19, Job 2:9,10, Job 30:29, Job 31:1,2,6,7,8,9,10,11,12, Job 42:10,11,12,13,15,16,

James 1:5, Proverbs 25:2,

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Job 30:19, no, I believe it's referring to Job 2:7,8,

Amos 2:1, 2Kings 23:16,20, 2Chronicles 34:1-6 as prophecied in 1Kings 13:12, & Ezekiel 24:9-14,

The other references comparable are 1Samuel 31:12,13, 2Samuel 21:12,13,14, they weren't completely consumed as described in Amos 2:1,

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Is Job 30:19 talking about cremation?

Psalm 38. In Job 2:7-8 we see a similar situation as to David's disease with the physical effects and the disdain of others as to his state. (see verse 11 in this Psalm comparted with Job 30:10).

The first seven verses describe physical affliction which could have been caused by David's sin (such as venereal disease which was discussed in an earlier Psalm). Once we get past verse 7; we see much in the description of the alientation and sufferings of Christ; except for the mention of verse 18 and David's sin and iniquity. Christ did have to suffer to deliver us from wrath by being the sin-bearer and hence again there is a dual representation here of David's life and the prophetic future of Christ. Jesus; of course asked why the Father had foresaken him in Mark 15:34. This can tie into Psalm 22 as well as verse 21 of this Psalm.

We see other indications such as verse 17 on Christ being the "man of sorrows" ( Isaiah 53:3); and his being silent as a sheep before it's shearers (v. 13 and 14 compared with further on in Isaiah 53:7). This; of course would reflect his inquisition for a time before Pilate ( John 19:8-11).

These passages show us that there are often several types of Psalms in one as well as multiple present and future applications. Prophecy in Messianic themes can be intertwined with impreccatory Psalms; for instance. The general idea of the meek inheriting the earth show us how a king (David and or Christ) can be exalted through a serving capacity; and indeed those who are bearing fruit and growing in faith are promised to be kings and priests someday (See Rev. 1:6).

Yes he is, beloved,

2 Kings 14:26

For the LORD saw the affliction of Israel, that it was very bitter: for there was not any shut up, nor any left, nor any helper for Israel.

Job 30:13

They mar my path, they set forward my calamity, they have no helper.

Psalms 10:14

Thou hast seen it; for thou beholdest mischief and spite, to requite it with thy hand: the poor committeth himself unto thee; thou art the helper of the fatherless.

Psalms 30:10

Hear, O LORD, and have mercy upon me: LORD, be thou my helper.

Psalms 54:4

Behold, God is mine helper: the Lord is with them that uphold my soul.

Psalms 72:12

For he shall deliver the needy when he crieth; the poor also, and him that hath no helper.

Romans 16:9

Salute Urbane, our helper in Christ, and Stachys my beloved.

Hebrews 13:6

So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

Here are a few scriptures that really rattled me: Psalms 10:10, in context: Psalms 10, whole chapter.

* Leviticus 19:15, Amos 2:6-7, Amos 5:12, Amos 8:4, Habakkuk 3:14,

Scriptures about the poor: Exodus 22:25, Exodus 23:1-11, Leviticus 19:10, Leviticus 23:22, Deuteronomy 24:14,15,

Job 29:11-17, Job 30:25, Job 31:13-40, Job 34:19-28,

Leviticus 25:25-55, Deuteronomy 15:1-15,

1Samuel 2:7-8, Job 24, Matthew 19:21,

Psalms 9:18, Psalms 12:5, Psalms 14:6,

Galatians 2:10, Zechariah 7:10, Luke 14:12-14, may want to keep reading Luke 14,

Matthew 5:3, Luke 6:20,

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Dear Mary , as a Christian , the only division I make between people is if they are Christians or not . That's it for me , it makes no difference what colour or culture . Christians are God's people , Christians truly are ' one nation under God ' and we are also spiritual Israel . Much love to you in Christ .

Hi Mary.

Is there any scripture in the Bible supporting these beliefs?

I don't no where in scripture where there is emphasis on color. The pride of man is the root of racism and division.

Aa for slavery, Yes it is wrong and I have seen some make excuses for it. But as for it along with murder abortion and every other abominable sin the world do will be considered when God judge the quick and the dead.

"IF" Christ is in us we see sin the way he do but the world will continue to do it, approve it, and excuse it.

There's Jews, Gentiles, and the Church in Gods view. And all have to come to come to him by Jesus.

God bless

I think the black people who were slaves were Hebrews And israelites amd Ez. said after 400 years God was going to turn things around for black people. June 6 2021 the frist slave got off the ship in Vir. I think Job was a black man.

I'm saying Everybody in the book is black except the ones cursed with leprosy and the Romans. Job 30:30

"My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat."

King James Version (KJV)

Isaiah 29:22

"Therefore thus saith the LORD, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax pale."

Song of Solomon 1:5

"I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon."

King James Version (KJV)

There is more. Israel is in North east Africa. There were no such thing as middle east. If so where is middle north and south.

If, from your request, you are seeking a verse to show the utter destruction of mankind, then we only see God's Hand that does it. Whether in particular judgements (as in the history of Israel, where God judged both Israel & the nations that opposed her) or in the outpouring of God's Wrath, as in the Great Tribulation & final judgement, reconciling all unbelievers into the Lake of Fire, is when we see such annihilation. I don't believe that there will be a worldwide extermination of mankind through of the efforts of man, as opposed to man's instigation of wars & skirmishes which results in many deaths.

Indeed to find the Bible verse that says man will destroy hisself

Lol, What scriptures am I twisting around? I'm only reading it as it says and not adding anything too it, others do that (your adding -"from the serpents wrath"). Precept must be upon precept, line upon line, here a little and there a little. What you say only confuses things further - its been said that in the future - (last days), the "Anti-Christ" will appear, so since you say that the serpent in verse 14 is that "Anti-Christ", your placing this verse to happen in the future but wait...America is "nourishing" - funding Israel (the land mass) now so does that mean the "Anti-Christ" is here now? In other words, is America nourishing Israel from the serpents wrath now? How could that be if the serpent is not here yet? Smh

Lastly, we know that serpent and dragon are the same thing based on verse 12:9, so where does John pull this similitude from, the old testament Job 30:29 - I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls. Job, an Israelite, calls his brother a dragon...who was Jobs brother, Esau - Malachi 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness - GOD calls Esau "dragons of the wilderness". Notice here that the serpent or dragon as spoke of in the old testament refers to more than one and not one single man but many men or a nation such as Esau that was a man in the beginning but spawned a prominent birthright nation of people as God told Abraham and Sarah.

In the helps section of this website; under "other translations", it says the organ is a pipe, or a flute.

There's a search box; a commentary box, and other translations. Helpful to look up things quick.

Concerning Job 30:31 what is meant by organ???

Its funny how reading peoples comments; i hear condescending, and judgement. No one is perfect. Job was a faith man, God bet on him. I wish i was a fraction of a man he was, we all can keep striving to be faithful servants that God instructs us to be. by helping each other.

Proof that they didn't have black skin, Job was covered in dark scabs from his disease a

what troubles us much when we are passing through hardship is reason why God allow this to us

In any situationwefind ourselves we should rely on God for help because others can look down on us.

I love god so much

In Job 30:31 what was Job complaining about?

Job is depressed because of his condition and is trying to understand by this affliction has come upon him, when in his heart, he believes that he has walked uprightly before God and lived a lived a godly life.

They kicked Job and spit on him!! I 'm sure the young people were punished by God for this!!

My thoughts Job was sick unto death, but as he lay with sickness he found strength in knowing God will be done.

O, how shallow can one 's understanding be when colored by preconceived notions. Job 's reference to "black skin " is metaphorical language used to describe his physical suffering. Nothing more...

No, you don 't turn black even if you live in Israel. Google pics of people of Israel. Most all are very light skin, just like white folks. Also, Job was not a Israelite. He came long before Abraham.

CALVIN this is the truth IF you lived in israel and stayed in the sun you to would turn black sooner or latter.their our jews also with light color skin i am one of them.i was not born in israel but in another contry.but i am still a jew because i know that CHRIST is yet to come and give his life for the jews and GENTILES alike.no mather what color your skin is your still my brother and i love you

CALVIN YOU ARE 1000 CORRECT

life is hard