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Acts 2:38 is the gospel in a nutshell.

Acts 2, the Jews

Acts 8, the Samaritans,

Acts 10, the gentiles

Acts 19, John's disciples rebaptized ALL IN THE NAME OF JESUS, ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM

James What I gather or understand from Job is an example of the goodness of God and steal kill and destroy satan's only purpose also God wasn't being tried or tempted [ James 1:13 God can't be tempted neither tempt he any man ].

The word says in Job 3:25 for the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me and that which I was afraid of is come unto me. In job 1:4+5 jobs children were feasting with each other all the time and job believed they were doing wrong to he point they were cursing God in their harts thus did jobcontinuously. His fear was so great from constantly believing that His children were doing wrong that it opened the door for the adversary to move. Fear is the exact opposite of believing because it putsus in a state of mental paralyses.

Thank you Rick and Diane for your reply.

I guess I do not see things the way you two do. Jesus promised the disciples that the Holy Spirit will teach them all things. The same Holy Spirit taught Paul as well. The Spirit delivered the same gospel to Paul as he did to the apostles. The spirit taught only one gospel, and it was for the Jews and the Gentiles. Peter preached the gospels to the Gentiles before Paul did (Acts10:34-43) On Pentacost, Peter preached to those gathered the same gospel as Paul ( Acts 2:22-37) Stephen preached the gospel at Antioch and founded this church before Paul was converted ( Acts 15:6-18) And when Paul went to Jerusalem after many years and shared what he was preaching, both he and the Apostles of the jerusalem church agreed that he was preaching the same gospel. I do not believe that Jesus' kingdom was for the Jews of that time, as Diane stated, nor do I believe that Paul had the Gentile gospel to the exclusion of the Jewish gospel. In every town he visited hep preached the same gospel to those in the synagogue as to those in Gentile situations. There is only one gospel and only one kingdom of God, not different ones in different dispensations. Diane, by the way you hold up Paul it sounds like you even hold him to be superior to Jesus and Jesus' ministry. I reject such a notion. I suggest that both of you go back and read through Acts so you can see that there has always been one gospel for both Jew and Gentile. As far as the 12 apostles knowing less than Paul about the Jesus and the gospel negates Jesus' very words that the Holy Spirit will teach the apostles(before Paul was converted) all things ( John 14. 25-26). A say these things to you in love. I care about you hearing sound doctrine and I will always defend the doctrines of the faith handed down through the generations to believers in the writings of the apostles, gospel writers, and Paul. I am not sure if your ideas about dispensations is the same as mine, also. God bless you!

Hi Diane We are definitely on the same page this revelation of Christ in us in the age of Grace that in 1 Corinthians 2:5-9 Paul States by revelation what we have is so big that if the prince of this world new it the adversary he would not have crucified christ. This understanding of the mystery was not in the stars or made known until Paul Got from Jesus Christ.

Continued: The Gospel of the Kingdom: Jesus and the 12 preached the gospel (good news) of the Kingdom at THAT time ( Matthew 4:17, Matthew 9:35, Acts 3:19). Which was for the Jew only ( Matthew 10:5,6: Luke 9:10 Matthew 15:24; John 4:22; Matthew 18:11; Romans 15:8) Appropriated by repentance, baptism, faith plus works. The content of the gospel of the Kingdom was Jesus was Israel's promised Messiah, the Son of God. " And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the Kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. Matthew 9:35 The apostle Peter's profession of faith was that he believed Jesus was in fact the Christ, the Son of God. Not that Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose from the dead three days later. No way, how could that be Jesus was still alive. And the gospel of grace wouldn't be revealed for another 10 years. Yes, of course. Everything is based on the finished work of the cross but in time, at that time ,that was all Peter or any other Jewish person was to believe for salvation. "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven," Matthew 16:15-17 The gospel of the Kingdom began with John the Baptizer and ended during the Acts period ( Acts 15:11) The gospel of the kingdom will pick up again when the body of Christ is raptured and the Lord turns His attention back to Israel and the Kingdom gospel and the 490 years prophesied in Daniel 9. Also known as the tribulation, Jacob's Trouble, or Daniel's 70th week." And this gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come". Matthew 24:14 To be continued, conclusion:

Hello GiGi, What I meant was that there is only one gospel that can save mankind today, and that is the gospel of grace ( Acts 20:24 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4 That Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again the third day. Appropriated by faith alone apart from the Mosaic law ( Romans 3:20,21) The gospel of grace and doctrines for the body of Christ, the Church, was a secret ( Romans 16:25, Ephesians 3: 1-11) hidden in the mind of God until revealed to the apostle Paul. In other words, between the time God called Abraham and the calling of the apostle Paul, there was no message of salvation to the Gentile world ( Ephesians 2:11,12). The gospel of grace is most clearly defined in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 " Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures: And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. Paul's Gospel: The apostle Paul Holy Spirit inspired of course, repeatedly referred to the gospel of grace as "my gospel"( Romans 2:16, 16:25 Galatians 2:2,7: 2 Timothy 2:8) Paul could say this because the gospel of grace was in fact revealed to Paul alone and he was chosen by the ascended and risen Lord Himself to be the apostle of the Gentiles( Acts 9:15, Romans 11:13) These new revelations came approximately10 years after Pentecost ( Galatians 1:1,11-12;17) All mankind during the age of grace will be judged according to Paul's gospel. " In the day that God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel" Romans 2:16 Paul warned mankind twice in Galatians, anyone that preached any other gospel then what was revealed to him by the ascended Lord Himself will be cursed " Please read Galatians 1: 8-9 KJV

Hi Diane , I enjoyed your post a lot , thankyou , you are so right , the Bible is a progressive revelation . I've been reading it for a long time and I'm still learning , I love that so much . Thanks again .

Precious sister Diane Taylor, this is an Excellent Summary! Mine looks like this:

Romans - Philemon (KJB!) = God's GRACE/PEACE Love Letters Directly TO us Today, For: Consolation, Comfort, Edification, Enjoyment, Encouragement, And spiritual Building Up Of All The BLOOD-Washed "members ( saints!" ) In The Body Of CHRIST (started in Acts 9)!, HIS Church, Seated In Heaven! Amen? {Please start here, But remember: "ALL Scripture is Profitable for learning!"}:

And for our Precious friends, who are not yet familiar with 2 Timothy 2:15 (the 'Key' that unlocks God's Revelation Of The MYSTERY, Which 'Was Hidden'), they can 'begin' here:

Prophecy vs MYSTERY: Link

May the LORD JESUS CHRIST Richly Encourage many In HIS Word Of Truth, 'Rightly Divided!' (ending 'Confusion'?) Amen?

Chris Endrizzi

Amen Sister GiGi.

Ephesians 2:19-20. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

God bless.

Hi Gigi What she is talking about the mystery of the one body of Jews in Gentiles in christ the knowledge of it was given to Paul in this the age of grace. Now the operation of it started on Pentecost, this as Paul wrote was hid in God, the prophets did not know it the original 12 apostles operated it but Paul was given the information by Jesus Christ after he ascended to heaven. Galatians 1:11+12, Ephesians 3:1-4, 1 Peter 1:10-12, the spiritual abilities we have are so great in 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 if the adversary who is the great prince of this world would have known what we who believe were given he would not have crucified our lord. That is what Angela is talking about, Romans through thessalonians is written to the church of God, not saying the gospels are not important its all Gods Word.

Diane.

Remember, Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. His body is no longer corruptible as it was on earth. Like you said, it is glorified, taking on the incorruptible, but still a body that can be touched. He ate with the disciples after appearing to them post-resurrection. Our bodies will become like that in the resurrection, but we are still the same human person. The same is true of Jesus. The difference is that He had an eternal existence before becoming a human while still being God, we did not exist prior to conception and none of us are or will be God. We are invited to fellowship with the one true God that exists as three persons in on God. Such a mystery this is. We accept it on faith.

I am drawn to the epistles written by Paul, but really, they are the inspired of God, just like all of the others writings in both new and old testament. I do not rank the Scripture wirings by giving the "newest" the pre-eminence in importance. They are all important as Paul states in 2 Timothy 3:16; "All Scripture is God-breathed,.."

this includes the old and new testament, the gospels, acts, epistles and book of revelation. It is all about Jesus, all point to Him, and all find their fulfillment and purpose in putting forth Jesus as Savior and Lord. Some things to consider.

To God be the glory, forever and ever.

I was trying to follow your thinking, but it was a bit confusing. Paul was on equal standing as all of the other apostles. the gospel was revealed to all of the apostles and they were all commissioned by our Lord to go into all of the world to preach the food news of forgiveness of sins in Christ. The Spirit of God taught all of the apostles the same as Paul. God does not contradict Himself. The gospels are for us, the Gentiles, too. They teach us about Jesus, who was fully God and fully man at the same time. The body of Christ worships Jesus still as true God and true man. He is in heaven with his glorified human body, in union with the Father and the Spirit. The same Jesus who walked on earth is the same Jesus who was resurrected and ascended to heaven. He did not shed his humanity once he got into heaven. To speak otherwise is to promote ages old heresies that deny to humanity of Jesus in heaven. The Old Testament is for us, Gentiles, too. It shows us the history of God working in our world from creation forward, not just when the church came into existence with the giving of the Holy Spirit at Pentacost. There are many places to begin studying the Bible, it really depends on the background of the person wishing to begin. I usually recommend beginning with the Gospels so that the person is introduced to Jesus right off as a first thing. They need to know who Paul or the other authors of the epistles is talking about when they name Jesus, the Christ, our Lord.

Angela, start your Bible reading in the book of Romans. Our doctrine today for the body of Christ is Romans to Philemon. Paul was called by the risen Lord Jesus Christ and given revelations that the 12 apostles never received. Paul was the last one that saw the risen glorified Lord and received the revelation of the mystery which had been hid in God until he called Paul. Paul is our apostle called by the risen Lord for today in this dispensation of grace. The 4 gospels were to the Israel at that time. They did not have the whole word of God back then, all the Jews had at that time were the old testament scriptures which were all to Israel. Christ came to his own and his own received him not. Christ came under the law to Israel. The body of Christ was not there at that time because Paul was not called then. Angela the Bible is a progressive revelation. We did not have the complete word of God back then. God called Paul to complete it. I do not worship Paul but he was chosen by our Lord and that is how God wants it for today. Christ is our savior. He is the one who has redeemed us by his precious blood, but he saved Paul by his grace to revel these mysteries to him to form the body of Christ. We our not under the law. We are under grace and we are saved by grace alone. We do not worship the earthly Jesus that came to Israel. We worship the risen glorified Christ from heaven and there is a big difference. Love, In Christ

Shirley Job was a great man who believed God and like us got hit with fear Job 3:25 He lost everything he had, but in everything that Happened to Him he never blamed God. In Job 29 there is figurative language he is remembering the days when Gods light candle was upon Him and Gods presents was always with him verses of His abundance and prestige among the younger and older people also the respect he had no matter where he went and what he did Gods presents was with him. In Job 30 he back discussing his present condition which was horrible, but in the end God gave Job twice as much as he had before. I agree with you there are phrases written that have a lot to do with eastern thought. Prayerfully this helps.

Willie Both having conversation and thinking but he never blamed God for his situation, Job 3: 25 was the cause of all of his problems, its the same in our lives, right after adam and eve sinned they Hid themselves from the God who loved them and gave them everything because they were afraid of Him. Time and time again in Gods word when God interceded for mankind we read the words Fear Not. Now when the Bible says fear God for believers its respect and awe unbelievers its terror. I have heard and read where people say God tempted Job, that contradicts James 1:12+13. Jobs fear was that his family was sinning all the time look at Job1:4+5 was on his mind all the time he sacrificed continually. Jobs remarkable that he didn't blame God although wife did and friends did instead he prayed for them, tremendous lesson. In the end God blessed him super abundantly, adversary lost again.

Oh no...he has a breaking point. We all do. Job started with great faith and fear set in at the end to taketh.

I know Job was being tested, but was Satan being tested, also, if Satan was being tested, is there a verse showing me, if so, please send it to me.

Though Job was indeed a believer, yet there remained a fearfulness within him. It is a picture of the reality that no matter our level of walk with the Lord in this life, for most of us there is always another level of purification. In each instance with Satan at the throne God said, "behold...." In other words the enemy had quit looking for access against Job because of the Lord's protection, but God is hones even with the enemy. The Lord showed Satan Job's weakness and used the enemy to purify Job for yet another level.

This shows what I see as a truth of the kingdom. Sooner or later God will bring you face to face with your greatest fear in order to show you that he is greater than all of your fear. Though Job demanded answers, when God actually presented himself in the whirlwind Job stood silent with his hand over his mouth knowing God was greatest of all and answered to no one.

Bible verses that talk about viruses coming and going. Bible verses that talk about taking only what you need and not taking from your brother.

If you click on the "more" tab at the top of the screen then there will be many categories and there is one that says "how to become a christian and I think it would help a lot" all you gotta do is scroll and look for it or you could do control+f and type it in if you have a chromebook.

I think this is a great idea. Good luck and may god bless you in so many different ways. I am praying for you and I hope it works.

Yes, you can't go wrong with one of the gospels, so Acts is good. Anywhere in the New Testament that talks about Jesus is a good way to start. God bless you.

I'm just getting back into the word of God,and rebuilding my faith. Do you think Act is a great way to start?

What I love about Job, is according to the text he never gave up in spite of the loss of his family cattle, wealth. God was his focus. I pray for such steadfast faith in God no matter what may come in my life. To God be all the Glory. Love It.

Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. Acts 14:22

John 1:4
In him was life; and the life was the light of men

In all that our Father blesses us with doing, having, experiencing, we are not shadowed from the evils, unfortunates, shortcomings of the world. We shall remain steadfast in recognizing and praising our God.

Though I walk through the valley of death I will fear no evil.

This portion of scripture is teaching us that more the challenges we may be going through in life we should look upon our Creator that Jehovah God who knows everything. because whatever we may go through God is aware. God bless you and the writer.

Verse 3~Job wished that he had never been born because life had become so difficult for him. We can similarly feel as Job did.