Discuss Job 42

  • Bennymkje - 9 months ago
    Eye

    'If therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.' It is the eye of faith.(Matt.6:22-23). The whole body signifies two worlds that of the flesh and of the Spirit. The body formed of the ground is adequate for the natural world, the world of the flesh. Considering that man is a living soul his world interfaces with the world of the Sprit, to which we who have made a covenant by sacrifice have a tabernacle "an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens."(2 Co.5:1-3; Ps.50:5). The expanse between these two worlds we scan by eye of faith so seeing is not simply a matter of optics but much more. It is seeing by the true Light, which is what abiding in Christ would mean. We shall examine two verses:

    Job had heard of God but when he saw it with eye of faith we see the power of the word of God. "I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee./ Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes."( Job 42:5-6)

    "Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in the earth." (Ps.46:8). Notice the word 'behold' it tells us that desolation were fulfillment of the will of God the Father.

    St Paul walks with purpose according to' the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ' meaning the truth in his inward parts equips him amply for living as a good witness for Christ. 'For we walk by faith and not by sight' (2 Co.5:7) . Eye is used as symbol for the inner man.

    Peter and John going into the temple healed a lame man, after telling him 'look on us'. He gave heed unto him expecting to receive of something. He was healed because faith was present there. (Ac.3:2-9). (See under D-double)

    In the Brazen serpent put up the wilderness we read God commanding Moses, "When look upon it shall live" (Nu.21:8)

    The Spirit uses this look of faith elsewhere in the narrative to distinguish from natural use of vision. (See under M- Expression of sign/gestures)
  • Bennymkje - 11 months ago
    Matt.5:3-9 Beatitudes

    St Mathew's sense of reconciling the grand vision of kingdom of heaven in terms of the heart; of eternity in the now and holiness of God in the man become flesh is fit with the backdrop chosen for the beginning of the ministry of Jesus Christ. The high mountain chosen for this inaugural address is Zion laid before the worlds began. (Is.28:16) The eternal word forever settled in heaven and Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever shall only be complet when it descends from heaven as New Jerusalem. So the doctrine presented by the Son of man shall remain as it is as long as the day decreed for the Son shall remain.

    We shall take each verse by verse, Parables of Jesus are flesh given to it so its eternal verity shall be recalled under every clime and generation men with renewed force. For example Jesus said," Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." Parable of the Publican and the Pharisee throws light into the nature of poor in spirit and holiness of God is not above in rewarding them. While the Pharisee justified himself even his knowledge of the Law began smelling foul for he was shredding the sanctity of His presence in the temple."And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner./ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted."( Luke 18:9-14)

    4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. The Life of Job is a lesson and we read thus,"So the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning."( Job 42:12). Similarly so many saints who were blessed because tribulations became stepping stones for glory.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Ez.14:16-20 "Arise, Shine Forth"

    In vv.16-20 The Spirit lays stress on three names, as exemplars of righteousness. They lived in faith despite of the circumstances.

    "Noah found grace in the eyes of theLord./....Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God(Ge.6:8-9)". He lived at a time when it was not different from what we are living. Truth is alternate truth and revising reality to buttress the wicked ideology is same as those who lived when 'the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually(v.6:5)'. Their culture wars was muck that a great flood simply washed away. At such a time Noah condemned them by patiently deepening his faith. The ark that he built was a sign.

    Daniel was in exile but he would not defile himself with the royal dishes offered to their gods. So God gave him gifts and grace to live among them. He interpreted dreams of his royal master but in order to be faithful he relied on the Wisdom of God. He was righteous in his generation. Job despite of his losses clung to God in order to place his life in its proper context. "I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee./Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes( Job 42:5-6)". He realized wealth or lack of it along with whatever the flesh stands for is trifle to the knowledge of God from hearing and seeing. What is hearing but the Word and what is seeing but end of our faith, salvation? Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.(Is.60:1)"

    Their righteousness delivered them. And God was justified in exacting vengeance on the wicked as we shall see with our own eyes God judging every ungodliness.'And they shall comfort you, when ye see their ways and their doings: and ye shall know that I have not done without cause all that I have done in it, saith the Lord God
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Study from the Book of Revelation

    Part IV

    : Re.11:11-13

    The Spirit of Life (1 of 4)

    "And they (the two witnesses) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them."

    First we shall examine what is the significance of the spirit of life. "And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet;"

    Spirit of life is written with small s which distinguishes the action of the Spirit of God moving upon the face of waters. Jesus explained it, "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."( John 6:63) Fulness of Jesus Christ established his word was from the Spirit of his Father in heaven. Kenosis was demonstrated that he obeyed the eternal word settled in heavens. "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."(Ro. 8:11) This is how these two witnesses were raised. It was same with Lazarus of Bethany. Death has no hold where the word of God is concerned.

    "So the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning."( Job 42:12) In the land of the living the daughters of Job were already present. So when he gave Job double of everything he had lost, He proved the point. There are no dead in His presence but souls of the wicked shall be consigned to oblivion only after the day of Judgment and it is left to the Son since He desires all his fulness shall dwell in him.

    In short the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters giving a word-wide web. It is what we found from the Psalm quote 'the Earth and the fulness thereof' indicates. Ps.24:1-3 When Jesus was demanded of tribute money, classic example of 'other men's riches' Jesus would not soil his hands with it.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I do understand from Job 1:19, that all who were in the brother's house (v13) enjoying their feast of food & drink, were destroyed when the wind smote that place. Of course, if only the young men were in the house & Job's daughters were not seated with them, then maybe the caving in of the house did not affect them. But Job 42:12,13 tells us that the LORD blessed Job with even more animals, replacing all that were destroyed, as well as giving him seven sons & three daughters which he had lost ( Job 1:2).
  • GiGi on Numbers 23 - 1 year ago
    NUMBERS CHAPTER 23

    Continued...

    In Job 42:8 seven bulls and seven rams were offered to YHWH by Job after having his amazing and life-changing encounter and conversation with YHWH. Job sacrificed on behalf of his "counselors" having forgiven them for their mis-counsel and asking YHWH to forgive them, also. In Numbers 23, Balaam also asks that seven bulls and seven rams be offered to YHWH on the high places where Balak took him to curse Israel. Unlike Job, Balaam asked for seven different altars instead of just one. Perhaps this was to have all sacrificed at the same time. Maybe it was a custom to do so among those who followed YHWH, or maybe having seven altars was the practice of the pagans when they sacrificed to multiple idols. We really don't know why Balaam asked for seven altars, but we do know that the number seven is so often referred to in Scripture and may therefore be a number to symbolize perfection of completeness or a reverend way to honor God.

    In Nu. 22:40, Balak offered oxen and sheep on the high place before he sent for Balaam. So apparently, offering oxen and sheep was common for the Moabites (descendants of Lot) also. The next day (vs. 41) Balak took Balaam and took him up to the high places of Baal in order to view the Israelites camped below. We do not know if Balak worshipped Baal or not, but it seems so, but maybe most of the mountains in the area were places where altars were set up to sacrifice to Baal and so, in order to view the encampment one needed to go to a mountain which happened to be a place of Baal worship, as vs, 41 seems to imply.

    Num. 23:1 When both Balaam and Balak were on this high place, Balaam asks for seven altars to be built and seven bullocks and seven rams to be brought to him on the mountain to be sacrificed. Balak did as Balaam asked. It was Balaam who did the sacrificing, but it was not to Baal, but YHWH. Balaam asked Balak to stand by the sacrifice. ..... cont. Pt. 3
  • ItIsWritten - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Thousands of years before you, there was a man called Job, and he essentially asked an even tougher version of the same question; that's essentially what Job chapter 3 through chapter 37 is all about.

    When Job had finished asking the same questions you are asking, do you know how the LORD began His answer to Job? "Who is this that darkeneth counsel BY WORDS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE?"

    - Job 38:2

    And again, "Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? He that reproveth God, let him answer it."

    - Job 40:2

    Do you know what Job realized after the LORD was done? " . . . Therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not."

    - Job 42:3

    To your question, there will be no greater than what the Scriptures have given in the book of Job.

    I suggest you read the entire book of Job.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Job 3 - 1 year ago
    Robert,

    I see no reason to believe that Job ever divorced or remarried. I believe that Job remained married to his wife and they both had more children after God restored all that he lost ( Job 42:10-13).

    We see in Job 42:11 that all his previous acquaintances came back to him. It does not mention his wife but I would have to think she would be included, or perhaps, she never left him?
  • T Levis - In Reply on Job 2 - 1 year ago
    Job 19:17,19, Job 2:9,10, Job 30:29, Job 31:1,2,6,7,8,9,10,11,12, Job 42:10,11,12,13,15,16,

    James 1:5, Proverbs 25:2,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Robert Echevarria on Job 42 - 1 year ago
    Did God give Job a new wife or was she the same one he had before?
  • Ruben - 2 years ago
    If you would please pray for The LORD to help me through the trials and tribulations that I am going through (Psalm34:19-20, Psalm 3, Psalm 5, Psalm 18, Psalm 144) If you would pray that The LORD would protect and deliver me from The Devil and my enemies ( Psalm 35, Psalm 59, 2 Thess 3:2). Also that The LORD would fight them, and expose their schemes against me and bring them to nought ( Exodus 14:14, Psalm 24:8, Psalm 33:10). Please pray that The LORD provides for all of my spiritual and material needs ( Philippians 4:19). Also, please pray for healing for my backsliding, body, mind, soul and spirit ( Exodus 15:26, Hosea 14:1-4, Jeremiah 3:22) . Please pray that The LORD turns my life situation around like he did for Job ( Job 42:10, James 5:11). Thank you and God bless you ( Revelation 22:21).
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Hi Haley.

    God bless you and thanks for sharing this with us, It's encouraging and a blessing to those of us who is going through a similar trial. Or perhaps will be. We can trust in the Lord and allow him to minister his love, mercy and peace in our lives.

    We don't have to do anything outstanding to be a recipient of God's love. Love is what he is, He displayed that through his son. stay in touch.

    We're praying with you.

    God bless.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Here are scriptures to help you, Haley & for your twin daughters Bonnie & Baylee. I know & pray that GOD is faithful to HIS promises, when times are difficult I pray these encourage & give you strength.

    Isaiah 40:11,31, Matthew 18:2,10, Psalms 68:5, Jeremiah 49:11, Psalms 146:9, Psalms 18:27, Psalms 140:12,

    Hopefully there are some within these scriptures that you'll find helpful
  • Delilah - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Please keep in touch and let us know how you are getting on . So many people just disappear from this site and I go crazy wondering what has happened to them . God bless you and all your family .
  • Blackfoot - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Your not crazy . You are full of faith . Don't ever be afraid , God will never leave you . May God bless you and all your loved ones , through Jesus Christ Amen .
  • Haley - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Wow! I had no idea anyone had responded to my post, but praise God that my desperate rambling was used to speak to anyone at all. I doubted it would ever even be read by an actual person.

    Thank all of y'all who were guided to respond. It means so much to me to feel heard. I appreciate any prayer for my life, my health, my restoration, and please go on.. but if I may ask for specific prayers for my young twin daughters? Their names are Bonnie and Baylee, and they are 8 years old. Beautiful, smart and tender hearted, and so far they love Jesus! Unfortunately we lost their daddy and my husband in a car accident when they were only 15 months old. It hasn't been easy, and I know it might be a long while until there are better times ahead. All because of the clarity the Lord gave me throughout yesterday and today, I am finally beginning to really really be at peace with God's purpose for my life, and wether he restores my health or ends my life on earth I will rejoice in His promises because now I KNOW Jesus is using my life to glorify His name, and I pray it can be used so others can receive Jesus like I have!, I just pray PLEASE Lord, that my girls see Christ through me. I can't say how much it would mean to me that anyone would see fit to lift up my daughters in prayer at my request. And I ask for this of anyone who will, because I am the best at forgetting to focus on Jesus and not on myself. And I fall back to being a poor example of the Living Gospel of Jesus Christ. There is no more time for me to be a lukewarm Christian. They have to know their mommas life was made rich complete because of God's goodness!I'm still rambling like a crazy person, and I thank y'all for not laughing or judging how desperate I am in my spirit for God's grace to continue this raining on me. Thank you God for being ALMIGHTY and POWERFUL. Jesus ALONE is worthy of praise. Amen.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Haley,

    Your words have truly ministered to my heart. You have shared with us a perfect example of what it means to place one's complete trust in Jesus Christ. You have reminded me of what it means to remain under our circumstances, no matter how hard those circumstances might be, and knowing that the Lord oftentimes places hardships in our lives in order to teach us how to trust in Him. You've demonstrated that trust. I can't see how anyone reading your words would not be blessed by them. Your words have caused me to examine my own walk with Christ, and for that I say thank you. My prayers are with you as you deal with cancer. I lift you up to the Lord and pray for His will to be done in your life. May He continue to strengthen you and guide you in every path that He sets before you.
  • Spartacus - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    I hope that everything goes your way and may God grant you a long and happy life . A very moving post thank you for your example of courage and faith .
  • Delilah - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    What an awesome post . May God bless you and keep you strong in Him .
  • Free - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Dear "Haley", it was good to read your testimony, really uplifting and comforting. There, between the lines of all hardship and despair, is a deliverance that you want everyone to experience. Thank you for your honesty and for sharing your joy in the Lord Jesus, love u in Christ. Act 1
  • Blackfoot - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    May God bless and preserve you .
  • Haley on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Thank You, Lord, for your Word! Praise you for your perfect timing! How amazing is every lesson you have for me! Every time you open my eyes a little wider and make my sight a little clearer I am amazed how perfectly you orchestrated my lesson! I would never be able to express my awe of You, my Creator, not even if I lived forever. My prayer is for every person to feel and watch You move in their life in a BIG way like you've done in mine, over and over, so they have no doubt of your existence and no denial of Your love for us!! Forgive me for doubting your faithfulness to me, and keep me from doubting you ever again!! It is the darkest feeling to admit my doubt in Your promise to never forsake me. I admitted my doubt and fear today to my momma in front of You with so much fear of my words hurting You and angering you with me. How dare I ask "why me?" Who am I to complain about anything? You allowed the sin of the whole world to fall on your perfect and blameless child, but I complain about my small share of suffering? How foolish and ungrateful of me. But, Praise Your Name, you heard me, you saw me, you gently and lovingly corrected me, and you restored my faith in that moment. I WILL take on this next battle with cancer you've allowed on me like I have the times before and I WILL trust in Your Holy plan even though I have no idea why so much suffering has been in Your Will for me. I will trust that it is all for Your Glory, and I thank you that my life might be used for your Glory. Thank you for Job and how you used his life to show us the obedience you want from us. It is awesome to watch you work in my life. My Father, Creator, Counselor, Master, Savior, my precious Jesus!! Thank you for your mercy and grace and love that never ends!!!
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    No, not clearly described, but Genesis 24, seems to establish a tradition.

    However these showed dedication to GOD of their treasure : Exodus 35:22, Numbers 31:50,

    The reference I see as a gift to bride to be, I've found in Genesis 24:22,27, but also restoration gifts in Job 42:11,

    Wedding rings for fingers were not mentioned that I've found.

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • Teaching on Job - In Reply on Psalms 91 - 2 years ago
    Benson Commentary

    Job 42:6. Wherefore I abhor myself. The more WE SEE of the glory and majesty of God, the more we shall see of the vileness and odiousness of sin, and of ourselves because of sin; and the more we shall abase and abhor ourselves for it; and repent in dust and ashes - Namely, sitting in dust and ashes. Job's afflictions had brought him to the ashes, Job 2:8, He sat down among the ashes; but now a sense of his sins brought him thither.

    Observe, reader, true penitents mourn for their sins as heartily as ever they did for any outward afflictions; for they are brought to see more evil in their sins than in their troubles; and even those who have no gross enormities to repent of, yet ought to be greatly distressed in their souls for the workings of pride, self-will, peevishness, discontent, and anger, within them, and for all their hasty, unadvised speeches; for these they ought to be pricked in their hearts, and in bitterness, like Job.

    Observe, also, that self- loathing is always the companion of true repentance. They shall loathe themselves for the evils they have committed, Ezekiel 6:9.

    It is not sufficient that we be angry at ourselves for the wrong and damage we have, by sin, done to our own souls; but we must abhor ourselves, as having, by sin, made ourselves odious to the pure and holy God, who cannot look upon iniquity but with abhorrence. If sin in general be truly an abomination to us, sin in ourselves will especially be so; the nearer it is to us, the more loathsome it will appear to be, and the more we shall loathe ourselves on account of it.

    Confess your faults one to another; pray that you will be healed.

    Mount up on wings like eagles. Isaiah 40:31

    Job's story has an happy ending.
  • ELB - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Dav47:

    I never said that Job was not and actual event.

    Is not our bible the WORDS of God.

    Was not Job a Prophet, Prophesying.

    2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy CAME NOT in the old time by the will of men: but holy men of God spake as they we moved by the Holy Ghost.

    Job 27:1 And Job continued HIS PARABLE, and said

    Job 13:27 ...thou settest a print on the heels of my feet.

    Job was PROPHESYING by a PARABLE about Christ.

    Most of Psalms, is David, a Prophet, prophesying about Christ.

    You see the same thing described by both Prophets.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Dav47 - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Actual events not some parable: Job was the 3rd son Issachar ( Genesis 46:13) he would of gone down to Egypt with his father. Issachar was 40 at "the going down to Egypt" Job would have been about 20 at that time (1706 bc). We are told he lived 140 years after his double blessing 42:10. If the double blessing included length of years then his age would have been 70 + 140 = 210 (3 70's of years). His lifetime would be 1726 to1516 BC. According to this, he was born the year after Joseph was sold, and died 119 years after the death of Joseph (in 1635 BC). When Joseph died, Job was 91. If his double blessing did include length of years (little doubt that they did) then his affliction took place 21 years previously, when he was 70. When Job died (1516) Moses was 55 and had been in Midian 15 years, 25 years before the Exodus. This would account for Job being a worshiper of GOD of Abraham, and explains how Moses could have been the author of the book, and perhaps an eye and ear witness of the events it records in Midian. Time of afflictions was very quick and happened in days. The assault began Gen. 2:7 (1656 BC). The so called 3 friends were descendants of Esau; therefore contemporaries. They spoke for 40 chapters before GOD had enough and told Job to get up and quit listening to them. They accused Job of being a sinner when Job knew he did not.

    Satan allowed to test Job was on earth de-facto meaning Satan was allowed to be here in his super natural state. Satan came to and fro from earth to heaven until CHRIST ordered him to get behind HIM and has been held there by Michael ever sense.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Hi Debra.

    Keep on studying the word, you can't go wrong. test everything with the light of scripture. Everything is not symbolic, that's a heresy!

    Some things we run across that have no significance.

    Today many will try to lead you away from the faith. Listen to Jesus here: I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? Luke 18:8.

    Also Peter.

    2 Peter 2:1. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

    God bless you.
  • ELB - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Sister Kay:

    Why do you think there is so many opinions:

    Because MAN want believe God's WORD.

    Job 27:1 And Job continued his PARABLE, and said.

    Was Job crucified on the Cross:

    Job 13:27 ...thou settest a print upon the heels of my feet

    James 15:11 .... ye have heard of the patience of Job (Jesus) ......

    Revelation 1:9 ......and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ ......

    PROPHECY

    Psalms 49:4 I (Christ) will open my mouth in a PARABLE .....

    Ezekiel 17:2 Son of man, put forth a RIDDLE, and speak a PARABLE .....

    Ezekiel 24:3 And utter a PARABLE ....

    PROPHECY FULFILLED

    Matthew And these thing Jesus spake to the multitudes in PARABLES, and WITHOUT a PARABLE he SPAKE NOT TO THEM.

    Christ is speaking TODAY to the MULTITUDES though HIS WORDS, and THOSE WORDS ARE A PARABLE.

    You will never understand God's WORD until he causes you to believe his word's are a PARABLE.

    Everything from Genesis to Revelation is a PARABLE about the KINGDOM OF GOD.

    God Bless YOU!
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Hi Debra.

    The scripture doesn't give us a time table of Jobs suffering.

    But here James reference him, so the book of Job is not a parable! The story of Job as I'm sure you know was as real as you and I.

    James 5:11 (KJV) Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

    God bless.
  • ELB - In Reply on Job 42 - 2 years ago
    Debra Kay:

    The book of Job is BOTH a PARABLE and a PROPHECY about and of Jesus Christ, as is Psalms.

    Job 27:1 Moreover Job continued his PARABLE, and said

    Job 29:1 Moreover Job continued his PARABLE, and said

    Job 13:27 .....thou settest a print upon the heels of my feet

    I guess the answer to you question: how long did Job suffer.

    Jesus suffered three and a half years, his ministry in the flesh.

    God Bless YOU!


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