"Can that which is unsavoury be eaten without salt? or is there any taste in the white of an egg?" v.6
Soul is neither in the material part nor in the spiritual shadow of life casting into the Land of the living. In a secular context we might define soul is betwixt and between the two realities where through our physical body 'through a glass darkly' we may look fore and aft. Job speaks of it in the following chapter, "Is there not an appointed time to man upon earth? are not his days also like the days of an hireling?/As a servant earnestly desireth the shadow, and as an hireling looketh for the reward of his work:
So am I made to possess months of vanity, and wearisome nights are appointed to me./When I lie down, I say, When shall I arise, and the night be gone? and I am full of tossings to and fro unto the dawning of the day(7:1-4). The Psalmist had this hope,'when I awake, I am still with thee(Ps.139:18b)' and this,'For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning.(Ps.30:5)'.
God did not create man to be a mere phantom of His nature 'Surely every man walketh in a vain shew: surely they are disquieted in vain: he heapeth upriches, and knoweth not who shall gather them(Ps.39:6). The world of flesh itself is vanity. How does it find its counterpoise? Whereas the soul that pleases God has its character as salt has. Savor is what distinguishes a worldly man from a child of God. "Ye are the salt of the earth (Matt.5:13)". In a grain of salt there are about 10 raised to the power of 16 (one followed by 16 zeroes or 10 million billion atoms) What is it made of? Chlorine is gas, deadly poison and sodium is metal which burns when it comes into contact with water. When these atoms are arrayed precisely and held in its its predetermined place,- by the nature of force working, that is chemistry for us, the crystal salt has savor.
Hello David. In Job chapter 6, Job is responding to what Eliphaz was speaking to him in the previous couple of chapters. Eliphaz was essentially urging Job to simply bear up (be patient) & submit to God, the God Who would bless him if he would repent of sins, for which he was suffering ( Job 5:17: "Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty").
Now in chapter 6, Job is responding to Eliphaz that the impatience with which he is being charged & the agony that he is bearing, be weighed against the great calamities he has experienced ( Job 6:1-4).
Then in v5, Job asks a couple of questions: 'does the ass complain when it has food and likewise the ox?' The expected answer is, 'No, they are satisfied when there's enough to eat'. Likewise, Job says that he does not complain without good reason, just as those animals. Rather, he has lost his taste for life: just as anyone would refrain from eating saltless/inspid food as also when eating just the white of an egg which has no taste of its own, so to his sufferings (which were undeserved) have now become his detestable portion in life. If it was that easy for Job to overcome his sufferings as simply adding salt to food or flavor to an egg, he would certainly do it. But in vv 8 & 9, Job longs for relief from God, or if none comes, that God would shorten his life so that his sufferings would finally end.
Matthew 5:13 Ye represent the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost its savour, wherewith shall it be salted [by men]? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot by men.
Job 6:6 Can that which is unsavoury be eaten without salt? or is there any taste in the white of an egg?
How wonderfully stated. I wholeheartedly agree with you. I'm just bringing out that in my own life, and I know it rings true in others, that when going through tough situations, if I wallow in self-pity and say woe is me, then what effect does the crisis have in me? Could there be more? I believe there is more to every situation, if we will truly turn to God and ask him to "reveal the deeper "why", then that's when we grow and truly change. Our victory is to bring all honor and glory to him one moment at a time.
I think the emphasis is not on the one being consoled; but the friend who is consoling as verse 15 indicates. This was the characteristic of the majority of the book of Job; who initially were silent as he stood with sackcloth and ashes and said nothing.
Unfortunately; human nature which is unstable as water cannot be counted on for steadfastness once the fear of God is removed; and self serving attitudes crop up. We are not naturally inclined to bear burdens of those who seem unpleasant; or in Job's case stink from open wounds. A lot of people don't feel like being around depressed individuals; or to share burdens generally.
This isn't even the biggest problem here: God Himself if anything was even harsher with Job; but gave him a worthy rebuke in that His attributes were perfect. Rather than emphasizing some self righteousness that his "friends" didn't really possess; He stands alone as being totally righeous; and therefore in all ways unattainable. The proper reaction is to be on our faces before Him. And the whole assembly; including apparently Job himself was unaware that Satan was the instigator here; who God allowed twice to affect first with the disasters with those in his personal circles; then to Job himself; limiting his life only to be spared. He was still stated to be a righteous man; the greatest of that land. There was never any indication that his possessions were anything but a blessing from God; as he alone seemed concerned about the attitudes of his family who he prayed for daily; and sacrificially. So with not knowing the source of his troubles; he blames God and is confused. Ultimately; the Lord "creates good and evil" ( Isaiah 45:7); but also is not the author of confusion; and cannot lie. This in the end exalted Job to an even higher standard. We should observe the mandate to pray for his friends BEFORE restoration; as this could have held back Job from these blessings if he had a hardened heart.
Meaning of Job 6:14 - In Reply on Job 6 - 2 years ago
Benson Commentary
Job 6:14. To him that is afflicted - Hebrew, To him that is melted, or dissolved with afflictions: or, as Dr. Waterland renders it, To one that is wasting away; pity should be showed from his friend - His friend, such as thou, O Eliphaz, pretendest to be to me, should show kindness and compassion in his judgment of him, and behaviour toward him, and not pass such unmerciful censures upon him as thou hast passed upon me, nor load him with reproaches; but he forsaketh the fear of the Almighty - Thou hast no love or pity for thy friend; a plain evidence that thou art guilty of what thou didst charge me with, even of the want of the fear of God. The least which those that are at ease can do for them that are pained, is to pity them, to feel a tender concern for them, and to sympathize with them.
Job 6:14 To him that is afflicted (troubled physically or mentally no matter the circumstances around the affliction) then pity should be shown to that friend. What is pity? Sympathetic sorrow should be shown to a friend. . . .But, he forsaketh (to renounce or turn away from entirely) the fear (profound reverence and awe especially toward God) of the Almighty.
I think this verse is trying to tell us to show sympathetic sorrow and understanding towards a Christian friend, and understand that those "troubles" are caused by not keeping reverence and awe toward the Father. Looking back on my life, I can see how I've missed it.
And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opinion.
Job 32:10
Therefore I said, Hearken to me; I also will shew mine opinion.
Job 32:17
I said, I will answer also my part, I also will shew mine opinion.
There are three times in the KJV that the English word "opinion" is used, all in Job 32. The book of Job is a book of arguments. The word "arguments" is found only one time in the Bible, also in Job.
Job 23:4
I would order my cause before him, and fill my mouth with arguments.
The English word "arguing" is also found only one time in the Bible, in Job.
Job 6:25
How forcible are right words! but what doth your arguing reprove?
Job and his three friends all expressed their opinions and argued in support of their opinions but God rebuked all four of them in the end for the errors in their thinking. Elihu was not rebuked and he was the only one of the lot who did not come across as one who is right and everyone else was wrong. He gave his opinions (which were right), called them his opinions, and offered for any of the others to prove him wrong after he spoke.
Elihu was right and should be a lesson to us about arguing our opinions in front of others. Give our views as our views and genuinely and politely allow others to express opposition with their arguments.
And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opinion.
Job 32:10
Therefore I said, Hearken to me; I also will shew mine opinion.
Job 32:17
I said, I will answer also my part, I also will shew mine opinion.
There are three times in the KJV that the English word "opinion" is used, all in Job 32. The book of Job is a book of arguments. The word "arguments" is found only one time in the Bible, also in Job.
Job 23:4
I would order my cause before him, and fill my mouth with arguments.
The English word "arguing" is also found only one time in the Bible, in Job.
Job 6:25
How forcible are right words! but what doth your arguing reprove?
Job and his three friends all expressed their opinions and argued in support of their opinions but God rebuked all four of them in the end for the errors in their thinking. Elihu was not rebuked and he was the only one of the lot who did not come across as one who is right and everyone else was wrong. He gave his opinions (which were right), called them his opinions, and offered for any of the others to prove him wrong after he spoke.
Elihu was right and should be a lesson to us about arguing our opinions in front of others. Give our views as our views and genuinely and politely allow others to express opposition with their arguments.
Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7, James 3, Job 6:24, Psalms 12:3-8, Psalms 15, Psalms 57, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 12:18, Isaiah 54:17, 1Peter 3:10, 1Corinthians 6:19,20, but also in context helpful hopefully to your other questions 1Corinthians 6:9-20,
Hopefully these scriptures encourage you & are helpful
Roots of many addictions are pain, if it's you or someone you dearly love:
Adam gave sound advice.
GOD can deliver from every addiction but 1st that person has to want deliverance. There are some cases I've heard testimony that GOD delivered instantly, others take persistence, prayer, fasting & steps of good decisions, each day.
Robin: I suggest that when you are reading or studying the King James Bible you search online and pull up a King James Bible dictionary based on Noah Webster's 1828 dictionary. Webster's first dictionary included definitions for many of the words used in the King James Bible. Although many of the words from the KJV are still in use today, such as unicorn, the commonly held definitions for those words have changed since the 1769 version of the King James Bible was published.
Hi Robin. The unicorn is a mythological beast, depicted as a horse with a horn from its forehead. However, in the Bible, the references to unicorn are commonly understood to be a wild ox (Hebrew: reem), which was known for its strength. Now, whether there is a wild ox, past or present, having a horn, or whether a rhinocerous is inferred, can only be a guess. Numbers 23:22 speaks of the unicorn's strength; Psalm 92:10: having a horn. So, clearly this was a strong savage beast & probably one that couldn't be domesticated (see Job 39:10: such an animal couldn't be used for ploughing & field work, such was its nature & strength).
Job thought he sinned against the Father and wished to die, he lost everything, he was being tested and he showed little faith at one point, he felt the spirit had left him, he was cursed. We all feel this at times, we all have trials and tribs, but at the end always keep in faith, and trust in the Lord no matter what, stay strong in the word, and bless God always and thank him for his mercies
From what I understand, Job didn’t have the Law as written by Moses, during this time. Have always wanted to know who were his contemporaries......was it Enoch or Noah?
If we could find out how close in time and place that Job was to battles involving ‘Tema’ and ‘Sheba’ we’d know more about Job’s time me thinks
Verses 2,3~Job was in great anguish and as a consequence he began to speak wild talk. Jehovah God understood his pain and why he spoke the way that he did.
there is wisdom in ever thing JOB said however i have not seen anyone coment on verce 24 this applys to all of us even me .also every one speeks what they believe .and not what JOB said .JOB was a profet and he was taught by his creater
I want to know more of His Word, most times Mathew Henry's commentary is difficult to understand. May I suggest he uses simpler words, no offense. Thank you
"Can that which is unsavoury be eaten without salt? or is there any taste in the white of an egg?" v.6
Soul is neither in the material part nor in the spiritual shadow of life casting into the Land of the living. In a secular context we might define soul is betwixt and between the two realities where through our physical body 'through a glass darkly' we may look fore and aft. Job speaks of it in the following chapter, "Is there not an appointed time to man upon earth? are not his days also like the days of an hireling?/As a servant earnestly desireth the shadow, and as an hireling looketh for the reward of his work:
So am I made to possess months of vanity, and wearisome nights are appointed to me./When I lie down, I say, When shall I arise, and the night be gone? and I am full of tossings to and fro unto the dawning of the day(7:1-4). The Psalmist had this hope,'when I awake, I am still with thee(Ps.139:18b)' and this,'For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning.(Ps.30:5)'.
God did not create man to be a mere phantom of His nature 'Surely every man walketh in a vain shew: surely they are disquieted in vain: he heapeth upriches, and knoweth not who shall gather them(Ps.39:6). The world of flesh itself is vanity. How does it find its counterpoise? Whereas the soul that pleases God has its character as salt has. Savor is what distinguishes a worldly man from a child of God. "Ye are the salt of the earth (Matt.5:13)". In a grain of salt there are about 10 raised to the power of 16 (one followed by 16 zeroes or 10 million billion atoms) What is it made of? Chlorine is gas, deadly poison and sodium is metal which burns when it comes into contact with water. When these atoms are arrayed precisely and held in its its predetermined place,- by the nature of force working, that is chemistry for us, the crystal salt has savor.
Now in chapter 6, Job is responding to Eliphaz that the impatience with which he is being charged & the agony that he is bearing, be weighed against the great calamities he has experienced ( Job 6:1-4).
Then in v5, Job asks a couple of questions: 'does the ass complain when it has food and likewise the ox?' The expected answer is, 'No, they are satisfied when there's enough to eat'. Likewise, Job says that he does not complain without good reason, just as those animals. Rather, he has lost his taste for life: just as anyone would refrain from eating saltless/inspid food as also when eating just the white of an egg which has no taste of its own, so to his sufferings (which were undeserved) have now become his detestable portion in life. If it was that easy for Job to overcome his sufferings as simply adding salt to food or flavor to an egg, he would certainly do it. But in vv 8 & 9, Job longs for relief from God, or if none comes, that God would shorten his life so that his sufferings would finally end.
"Can that which is unsavoury be eaten without salt? or is there any taste in the white of an egg?"
The second question is just a repeatition of the first, is there any taste in the white of an egg (that is the unsavoury) if it has no salt on it?
Job 6:6 Can that which is unsavoury be eaten without salt? or is there any taste in the white of an egg?
Unfortunately; human nature which is unstable as water cannot be counted on for steadfastness once the fear of God is removed; and self serving attitudes crop up. We are not naturally inclined to bear burdens of those who seem unpleasant; or in Job's case stink from open wounds. A lot of people don't feel like being around depressed individuals; or to share burdens generally.
This isn't even the biggest problem here: God Himself if anything was even harsher with Job; but gave him a worthy rebuke in that His attributes were perfect. Rather than emphasizing some self righteousness that his "friends" didn't really possess; He stands alone as being totally righeous; and therefore in all ways unattainable. The proper reaction is to be on our faces before Him. And the whole assembly; including apparently Job himself was unaware that Satan was the instigator here; who God allowed twice to affect first with the disasters with those in his personal circles; then to Job himself; limiting his life only to be spared. He was still stated to be a righteous man; the greatest of that land. There was never any indication that his possessions were anything but a blessing from God; as he alone seemed concerned about the attitudes of his family who he prayed for daily; and sacrificially. So with not knowing the source of his troubles; he blames God and is confused. Ultimately; the Lord "creates good and evil" ( Isaiah 45:7); but also is not the author of confusion; and cannot lie. This in the end exalted Job to an even higher standard. We should observe the mandate to pray for his friends BEFORE restoration; as this could have held back Job from these blessings if he had a hardened heart.
Job 6:14. To him that is afflicted - Hebrew, To him that is melted, or dissolved with afflictions: or, as Dr. Waterland renders it, To one that is wasting away; pity should be showed from his friend - His friend, such as thou, O Eliphaz, pretendest to be to me, should show kindness and compassion in his judgment of him, and behaviour toward him, and not pass such unmerciful censures upon him as thou hast passed upon me, nor load him with reproaches; but he forsaketh the fear of the Almighty - Thou hast no love or pity for thy friend; a plain evidence that thou art guilty of what thou didst charge me with, even of the want of the fear of God. The least which those that are at ease can do for them that are pained, is to pity them, to feel a tender concern for them, and to sympathize with them.
I think this verse is trying to tell us to show sympathetic sorrow and understanding towards a Christian friend, and understand that those "troubles" are caused by not keeping reverence and awe toward the Father. Looking back on my life, I can see how I've missed it.
They were all ashamed of a people that could not profit them, nor be an help nor profit, but a shame, and also a reproach.
2 Samuel 19:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And the people gat them by stealth that day into the city, as people being ashamed steal away when they flee in battle.
Hebrews 2:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
Isaiah 33:9 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
The earth mourneth and languisheth: Lebanon is ashamed and hewn down: Sharon is like a wilderness; and Bashan and Carmel shake off their fruits.
1 John 2:28 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
Micah 3:7 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.
Ezekiel 36:32 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.
Hebrews 11:16 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
Genesis 2:25 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Job 6:20 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
They were confounded because they had hoped; they came thither, and were ashamed.
Isaiah 20:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And they shall be afraid and ashamed of Ethiopia their expectation, and of Egypt their glory.
And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opinion.
Job 32:10
Therefore I said, Hearken to me; I also will shew mine opinion.
Job 32:17
I said, I will answer also my part, I also will shew mine opinion.
There are three times in the KJV that the English word "opinion" is used, all in Job 32. The book of Job is a book of arguments. The word "arguments" is found only one time in the Bible, also in Job.
Job 23:4
I would order my cause before him, and fill my mouth with arguments.
The English word "arguing" is also found only one time in the Bible, in Job.
Job 6:25
How forcible are right words! but what doth your arguing reprove?
Job and his three friends all expressed their opinions and argued in support of their opinions but God rebuked all four of them in the end for the errors in their thinking. Elihu was not rebuked and he was the only one of the lot who did not come across as one who is right and everyone else was wrong. He gave his opinions (which were right), called them his opinions, and offered for any of the others to prove him wrong after he spoke.
Elihu was right and should be a lesson to us about arguing our opinions in front of others. Give our views as our views and genuinely and politely allow others to express opposition with their arguments.
And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opinion.
Job 32:10
Therefore I said, Hearken to me; I also will shew mine opinion.
Job 32:17
I said, I will answer also my part, I also will shew mine opinion.
There are three times in the KJV that the English word "opinion" is used, all in Job 32. The book of Job is a book of arguments. The word "arguments" is found only one time in the Bible, also in Job.
Job 23:4
I would order my cause before him, and fill my mouth with arguments.
The English word "arguing" is also found only one time in the Bible, in Job.
Job 6:25
How forcible are right words! but what doth your arguing reprove?
Job and his three friends all expressed their opinions and argued in support of their opinions but God rebuked all four of them in the end for the errors in their thinking. Elihu was not rebuked and he was the only one of the lot who did not come across as one who is right and everyone else was wrong. He gave his opinions (which were right), called them his opinions, and offered for any of the others to prove him wrong after he spoke.
Elihu was right and should be a lesson to us about arguing our opinions in front of others. Give our views as our views and genuinely and politely allow others to express opposition with their arguments.
Hopefully these scriptures encourage you & are helpful
Roots of many addictions are pain, if it's you or someone you dearly love:
Adam gave sound advice.
GOD can deliver from every addiction but 1st that person has to want deliverance. There are some cases I've heard testimony that GOD delivered instantly, others take persistence, prayer, fasting & steps of good decisions, each day.
Robin Reed
Roanoke, va
Robin Reed
I enjoyed Reading and making comments on my favorite verses.
I am anticipating reading the comments of other people. It is
such a blessing and I want to know when this part of the online
restart.
Thanks!
Marilyn J. Thompson
O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.
Job 6:30
Is there iniquity in my tongue? cannot my taste discern perverse things?
Psalms 119:103
How sweet are thy words unto my taste! yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth!
Proverbs 24:13
My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb, which is sweet to thy taste:
If we could find out how close in time and place that Job was to battles involving ‘Tema’ and ‘Sheba’ we’d know more about Job’s time me thinks