Discuss Job 7

Job 7:1-7 "Days of an hireling"

"As a servant earnestly desireth the shadow, and as an hireling looketh for the reward of his work"(v.2)

Glory of God is revealed in the manner His Power and Wisdom have created the heaven and the earth; so much so even a speck of dust refracts sunlight to create a roseate dawn or starry skies that never fails to thrill us. God is beyond human conception and Truth is the only measure by which He makes sense to us. "He hath made everythingbeautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end(Ec.3:11)". Only through his Son it is known. The works of God ( John 6:28-29).

Soul is a token of God establishing his sovereignty over His creation and it holds the everlasting covenant as its frame of reference. "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.( John 14:6)." Truth in inward parts makes each of us accountable to God in the final reckoning. So what are we but chosen by God before the worlds began. Are we sons or servants merely going through the motions of living for our reward?

"My days are swifter than a weaver's shuttle, and are spent without hope./O remember that my life is wind: mine eye shall no more see good."

"Is there not an appointed time to man upon earth? are not his days also like the days of an hireling?" A hireling and a son have different standing which the Parable of the Prodigal Son brings out. The spendthrift son have wasted away his means and fell in want. In an alien country where Satan is a hard taskmaster he would even grudge over the husks doled out to his servants, what does the son say,'And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!( Luke 15:17).The expression 'when he came to himself' is highly significant. Soul is a reminder of our fellowship with God.

God loves you, Ayen. In a book called the Pilgrim's Progress, when the giant of despair captured Christian and his friend Hopeful, they talked:

"Chr. "Brother," said CHRISTIAN, "what shall we do? the life that we now live is miserable: for my part I know not whether is best--to live thus, or to die out of hand. 'My soul chooses strangling rather than life';

"So that my soul chooseth strangling, and death rather than my life." Job 7:15

and the grave is more easy for me than this dungeon. Shall we be ruled by the Giant?"

Hope says no

Hope: "'Indeed our present condition is dreadful, and death would be far more welcome to me than thus for ever to abide; but yet let us consider, the Lord of the country to which we are going hath said, "Thou shalt do no murder," no, not to another man's person. Much more, then, are we forbidden to take his counsel to kill ourselves.'" It is murder to kill oneself, and as stated in 1 John 3:15 "no murderer has eternal life"

God cares for you and is able to deliver you from your affliction.

Matthew 5:4 "Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted"

Hi Jacki,

I hope you're not worried about the issues of the Earth being destroyed.

Job 5:10, Job 7:1, Job 9:2-15, Job 12:10, Job 34:12-15, Job 38,

Psalms 46, whole chapters 2Peter 3, Revelation 20,

Revelation 21,

There are many chapters & verses about these events. I recommend reading Revelation in it's entirety. You can do phrase & individual word searches on this site.

Hopefully these are helpful in your study & searching

Matthew 1:17,

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Which day was Jesus was born

Deloys Sutherland,

Hello, welcome to the Discussion & Questions section of this website.

Many of us here volunteer here because we love GOD & love HIS people, whom HE created.

Like Adam said be careful about listening to opinion. This is such a difficult topic, emotionally, spiritually, morally etc. This issue effects society, families, individuals.

1st let's address the effects = Loss to their family, loved ones, friends, community & even the World. Loss of what that person would have accomplished, & what that would have attributed to each mentioned. 1Corinthians 12, Psalms 139,

2nd, What that leaves behind = confusion, sadness, undue feelings of guilt, grief, helpless feelings to those dear & close to the person & then effecting all around them, even extended to people that looked at that person as an example, children nearby, jobs, everyone & everything left, all effected 2Corinthians 3:2, 1Timothy 4:12,

3rd root causes = pain, abuse, sometimes just selfishness, etc. But we are not without hope, Romans 8, (whole chapter)

Hope = Hebrews 4:8-16, Romans 5:1-21, Romans 15:4,13, Galatians 5:5, Colossians 1:23,

Strength to endure = James 5:10, Romans 12:12,

Comfort = 2Corinthians 1:2-4,

Purpose = Ephesians 1:17-19,

People that went through feelings of that but made it through = 2Corinthians 1, Job 7:15, Jonah 4:9, Matthew 26:38,

Direction = Proverbs 2, Proverbs 8, Proverbs 10:2, Proverbs 24:10-12, Hebrews 4:15-16,

Disobedience to GOD = Psalms 68:20, Ezekiel 18:32, Ezekiel 33:11, Exodus 20:13, Deuteronomy 5:17,

Hopefully these are helpful

With respect and affection Richard , I enjoy your posts very much . May I please draw your attention to the following verses ; Job Ch 2 V 10 , Ex Ch 32 V 14 , Deu Ch 32 V 39 , Josh Ch 23 V 15 , 1st Sam Ch 16 all of it , 2nd Kings Ch 22 V 16 , 2nd Chron Ch 18 V 22 , 2nd Chron Ch 34 V 24 , Neh Ch 13 V 18 , Isaiah Ch 45 V 7 and finally Job Ch 42 V 5-7 .

Truly a lamentable chapter. Very much like the book of Lamentations; in fact in many ways. This whole section of scripture shows Job's accusation of God bringing on the misery that He had delegated to Satan to be permitted to test Job. Not forgiving sins is an accusation that may have been the worst thing Job accused God of. It was; indeed the "accuser" Satan himself that was causing ALL this misery; from the bodily pains to the terrifying dreams. Thankfully; the transgression of verse 21 was finally taken care of at the cross. Before that time; we have righteous men such as Lazarus in paradise. After then; praise God! when absent with the Body we are present with the Lord. ( 2 Cor. 5:6). Verse 12 is surely interesting as well; reminding us of Jonah in the whale probably feeling much the same way at a much later time in recorded history.

This desire to depart from God is truly sad as well. Those who know God may have fear of Him; but it is never for their destruction if they are saved. This is a really great book for those who are overemotional in their walk and who may trust their feelings over their true status. The opposite of course is much more dangerous; for if we are expecting jubilant feelings while loving the world brings God's favor; and we aren't aware what He has saved us from or that we are enemies of God before coming to Christ; then we have to "test ourselves" ( 2 Cor. 13:5) to see if we are in the faith. Food for thought...

Genesis 37:5-11, Genesis 40:5-22, Genesis 41, Deuteronomy 13:1-4, Job 7:14, Jeremiah 29:8, sometimes dreams come because of movies we watched, "you caused to be dreamed" Ecclesiastes 5:3,

Genesis 20:3, Numbers 12:6, Jeremiah 23:28, Matthew 1:20, Matthew 2:12,13,19,22, Books of Daniel 2, 4, 7, Matthew 27:19,

Acts 2:17

Hopefully these are helpful

Hey Jeff,

It will be hard to find, the closest you will get is a parable in Luke 16. If you read the chapter and the context it is against the love of money and wealth. When Jesus first came the Greek influence was widespread many were Hellenized.

When our spirit leaves our body and goes to intermediate heaven does not come from scripture, it comes from Plato. His definition of death is the separation of the soul from the body. Hades the Underworld where the dead went, a subterranean region, the world of the dead where all souls passed after their time on earth, Elysium was paradise.

If you look for scripture you will find sleep in the earth until the resurrection, Job 7:21 Job 14:12-14 Job 17:13-16 Psalm 89:48 Psalm 115:17 Daniel 12:2 Ecclesiastes 9:10

God bless,

RLW

Job 7:3 I have been allotted months of

futility and nights of mystery has been allotted to me

Hi Douglas.

Google Chuck Missler on Science. He does a good job on that.

A Genesis Explanation

It's all over the Bible, in different places: search the words: 'upside down'. However it has NOTHING to do with "Old Earth Theory" about creation. That's a cult.

The Bible which is a record of ONE person: Jesus; the Word of God. Genesis to Revelation leads up to the end of this age. 2 Peter: earth will burn up.

What scientists have long sought to explain=

TIME, FORCE, ACTION, MATTER: explained in Genesis 1:1. How did it happen and WHO did it? The Godhead: the Father, the Word of God, the Spirit.

The First thing God created, was TIME. "In Beginning". John 1:2-5, Hebrews 1:1-16. Time began to tick for Creation and Man. For seasons and times.

God Wills it

The Son ( Hebrews 1:5), The Word, speaks it

The Holy Spirit performs it.

Mishael: this is enough to get you on track with what happened in Genesis the first day. Get a KJV study Bible that has Center Column references to further explanation (has tiny abc's imbedded in the scriptures). You don't need secular books to read this and understand better.

We know the earth itself is billions of years old. All sciences have evidence. Carbon dating.

Genesis 1:1 shows God creating TIME, first. It was created for mankind.

Maybe your daughter will become a great evangelist amongst the scientific communities? It was recently published that all planets had water on them. It was proven that the position of earth allowed perfection for life. Who did that?

Water on the other planets disappeared. Only Earth has the water needed for life.

Or she may study a named asteroid (star), WORMWOOD (named in the Bible), that is going to hit earth and turn water to be bitter and poisonous. (Book of Revelation) Until recently there were many pictures of Wormwood. Now I think NASA has taken them down to avoid mass hysteria, but they are still tracking it.

Mishael

Hi Douglas, there's a page on this website that may help:

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The Bible isn't opposed to science- the Bible has plenty of scientific evidence of it being true. But there's a difference between real science using the scientific method and being open to new information vs. fake science where someone may have a scientific degree, but simply uses this title 'scientist' to state his religious opinion. So, in many cases where you hear 'science vs religion', it's actually religion vs. religion. And the burden of proof isn't on Christians to prove God otherwise He doesn't exist- that is a logical fallacy. The problem is we exist and we must explain how and why we exist. The burden is on EVERYONE to explain that and Christianity has a logical explanation and atheists have an illogical explanation.

If we see a building isn't it logical to believe in a builder? If we see a painting isn't it logical to believe in a painter? If we see an amazing design, isn't it logical to believe in a designer? No 'scientists' are claiming buildings were created by a big bang and then gradually evolved to become bigger more complex buildings. But strangely 'scientists' will blindly believe a random explosion from nothing created something which had lots of sexual relations with itself until it became a human being, despite no evidence for that. No one has ever witnessed such a thing, nor can it be reproduced, nor has any kind of animal ever been witnessed changing to a different kind of animal. Yet, strangely you have a religion built around it- atheism, but they just call themselves 'scientists'. No, that violates the scientific method.

The Bible actually has plenty of scientific evidence. You can see seashell and sealife fossils in the tallest limestone mountains in the world- 10,000' level and higher. I have seen them myself. That is evidence of a global flood- just as the Bible describes. Out of space. Have a great day.

i need all refferences to science in the kjv trying to convert my daughter who believes in science

I shall be no more in the morning. Does Jobs know he will die by morning or hopes? Curious to find out in the next readings.

Sometimes life becomes very challenging, one thing after another so you ask yourself do I get a break? I can't continue like this, but reading Job gives hope when your at the end of the line. Hope, strength ,and clear thoughts, once we realize we're not walking alone. God is always beside us to guide us though our challenging

times and rocky roads.(Job is our testimony)

I needed this...

Hold on to GOD unchanging Hands, he will give us peace if we just let GOD be GOD...

The earth is the LORD and only he can heal his people and heal his land Meditate on the words of GOD and he will help you.

Our minds can sometimes be in so many directions and we feel like just quitting ask the Lord for help......

The book of Job

Love

Praise god for failed suicides

Verse 17~Who really are we as humans in God's grand scheme of things? This is a good question to meditate on.

Verse 7~Job thought that he would not be happy again. Sometimes when we are going through trials we can't imagine things getting better, but things can change for the better just like they changed for Job.

@Sue I pray that the Almighty God will bless you and I pray this verse over your life.

Numbers 6:24-26
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The Lord bless you
and keep you;
25
the Lord make his face shine on you
and be gracious to you;
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the Lord turn his face toward you
and give you peace

No matter what we are going through we must continue to have hope and faith in God. Only He can deliver us.
Ps. 23:4 "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil for thou art with me".

Irene 123,I did not quote Job 7:3 with a bad motive or in the context of my physical situation.My post was answering how long Job suffered his affliction,asked earlier by someone. You judged it as "negative".You judge God's word as "depressing." Do you always give the outcome of every verse you quote?Almost impossible to do with the limit of letters we are allowed here.Your post is negative.

LU2677 - are you in great physical/emotional pain? Otherwise why would you quote Job 7:3? It's very depressing if you don't bring out Job's end in all of this .....; we shouldn't use the word of God in a negative way.

Job 7:3 "So, I am made to possess months of vanity and wearisome nights." Job said.

Life is full of uncertainty, emptiness and pain. Our prayer is that God would give us the faith and fortitude to go thru.

This is really the groanings of a man in agony, oh! the depth of despair and pain.

All my life I have struggled. Sexual abuse at age 6, molestation and even rape. Drug and alcohol addiction. In and out of recovery centers. 3 attempt suicide. My Dad died, 3yrs later my only child took her own life. Step Dad passed away and even my dog. In the last hospital a security guard told me to read Job I always carried a Bible when ever I tried to get help , when I was released I read Job and still today I read it . It 's going on a yr of my Mom 's passing. My husband is very sick. I refuse to lose faith . Jesus spoke to me 20 yrs ago on 4 different occasions . I went to AA , sometimes to Church. I read my Bible and any spiritual book to help me. 20 yrs clean and sober by the Grace of God.