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  • Marke - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Reply to Jannie Talley.

    The Lord Jesus Himself speaks here in Joel 2:

    12 Therefore also now, saith the Lord, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:

    13 And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the Lord your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Acts 8 - 2 years ago
    Here are some scriptures to help you with deeper understanding I hope:

    Matthew 24:3-51, Mark 13:5-37, 1Corinthians 15:41-58, 1Thessalonians 4:13-18, Psalms 97:2, Psalms 104:3, Joel 2:1-15, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Matthew 26:62-68, Mark 14:60-65, Revelation 1:7, 2Thessalonians 1:4-12, 2Thessalonians 2:1-17, Revelation 6:9-17, Revelation 7, Revelation 8, note Revelation 8:6 continues on through Revelation 9, & Revelation 10, Revelation 10:6-7, Revelation 14, note Revelation 14:12-20,

    Matthew 25:31-46, Revelation 20:5, Revelation 20:12-15, Revelation 20, in context &

    Revelation 1:5, Colossians 1:18,

    Hebrews 6:1-3, Hebrews 11, Revelation 11:15-19, Acts 24:15, Mark 12:26-27, Luke 16:19-31

    Hope these are helpful
  • Disturbing Dreams - In Reply - 2 years ago
    It's something you need to pray about.

    Here are scriptures that will guide you into understanding of how God protects and speaks to His children. May I ask if you have given your heart and life to Jesus? There's a link on this website that will help you to pray: Become a Believer. It's on the entrance page.

    Read these:

    Luke 16:19-31

    Psalm 34:7

    Joel 2:28-32

    If you need help or new friends, we're here every day.

    Mishael
  • USING GOOGLE TO READCOMMENTARIES - In Reply on Joel 2 - 2 years ago
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    JOEL:2:32 Commentary, Bible, Meaning

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  • WHO IS THE REMNANT - In Reply on Joel 2 - 2 years ago
    Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

    JOEL 2:28-32

    The promise began to be fulfilled on the day of Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit was poured out, and it was continued in the converting grace and miraculous gifts conferred on both Jews and Gentiles.

    The judgments of God upon a sinful world, only go before the judgment of the world in the last day. Calling on God supposes knowledge of him, faith in him, desire toward him, dependence on him, and, as evidence of the sincerity of all this, conscientious obedience to him.

    Those ONLY shall be delivered in the great day, who are now effectually called from sin to God, from self to Christ, from things below to things above.

    [mishael: from other commentaries I read, the inference is that "casual Christians" may be goats we read of in other scriptures in the New Testament]

    You can put your scripture in Google like this, and read some of the longer commentaries by Bible scholars. On any scripture you have questions about.
  • Kathleen on Joel 2 - 2 years ago
    Who is the 'remnant' referring to in Joel 2:32
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I see that you have referenced me Alex, to which I will return some responses, after quoting you.

    "Thus ALL men will be born again of his spirit..I will pour out my Spirit on ALL FLESH...Joel..." Joel 2:28 (cf Acts 2:17). Not all men will be born again as you believe - the Spirit will be given only to those who repent & turn to the Lord. An evidence of this first outpouring was at Pentecost, to which Peter references Joel's prophecy. ALL FLESH represents not All Men, but people of ALL Nations who respond to the Lord.

    "there is only 1 thing that initiates Salvation which is the New Birth...Faith can only come by 1 thing hearing his word...And Faith is the evidence of a Birth of Christ in us." Alex, you've got this all mixed up. Faith is NOT the evidence of a Birth of Christ - Faith is a gift of God ( Ephesians 2:8,9) & with God's Grace, brings salvation, hence a new birth. The New Birth doesn't initiate salvation - the New Birth is a product of salvation. ( Romans 10:9,10; 2 Corinthians 5:17).

    "It wd make God a hypocrite if he applied the curse of that 1st Adam to all men no exceptions mind you...But Not apply the blood of that 2nd ADAM Christ Jesus the lamb of God to ALL MEN NO EXCEPTIONS." If that were true Alex, there really would be no need to preach the Gospel, as according to you, God is bound to forgive all mankind regardless of their sinful state & hatred of Him. I ask again Alex, as I did many months ago & getting no answer, would you share the Gospel with someone who asks you for the way of salvation? If so, why? And what would be the message?

    Lastly, "God is not a torment to them in Christ Jesus but only to the DEVILS AND HIS ANGELS." Please read Revelation 20:10-15. This Lake of Fire is not for purifying nor temporary, it's for everlasting torment for both Satan & his henchmen & those not written in the Book of Life. "Behold now is the day of salvation" - no other opportunity for anyone, hence the Gospel's urgency.
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Sister GiGi: Revelation is very much ACTUAL; but the ACTUAL is hidden in symbols, metaphors, etc.

    The seven seals were opened at the death and resurrection of Christ and pentecost, forty five days later.

    Revelation 6

    First seal white horse (Christ) to conquer (as Holy Ghost).

    Second seal red horse (Satan to deceive the whole world)

    Third seal, black horse, balances (judgement give to rightly divide the word of God)

    Forth seal Death and the grave

    Fifth seal Old testament saints awaiting Christ resurrection.

    Hebrews 11:39 And these all (Old Saints) having obtained a good report through FAITH (given to them by the Holy Ghost), received not the promise (of Eternal life, but having to wait under the alter (the grave) for Christ resurrection).

    Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us (we shall never see death), that they (Old Saints) without us (New Saints) should be made perfect (through Christ resurrection).

    Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that has his part in the FIRST RESURRECTION .....

    Sixth seal Christ crucifixation and resurrection.

    Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon turned to blood.

    Joel 2:31 And the sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible DAY of the Lord come.

    Matthew 27:51-53 earthquake, Old saints resurrected, moon (symbolic of Christ, Psalms 89:37).

    Seventh seal silence in heaven one half hour (symbolic) of the forty five days between the resurrection and pentecost.

    Daniel 12:11 From the time the daily sacrifice shall be taken away and the ABOMINATION THAT MAKETH DESOLATE SET UP, there shall be twelve hundred ninety days (forty two months, Christ ministry IN THE FLESH).

    Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days (pentecost, Christ second coming and ministry on earth).

    GBU
  • Roman - In Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4 - 2 years ago
    Kay,

    I appreciate your knowledge, here. Jesus also comes symbolically at the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord, the day named after Him. Jesus comes like a thief to lay the land desolate (both houses of Israel).

    Jesus participates at the falling away in Spirit:

    Isaiah 13:5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, [even the LORD], and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

    Luke 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not, 6th trumpet.

    Isaiah 13:6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty, 6th trumpet.

    Joel 2:9 Jesus comes in at the windows "like a thief" at the day of the Lord.

    God even calls the beast army, "His army", and praises anti-christ's might, Joel 2:11

    Everything Jesus warns us about is facilitated through anti-christ's scriptural actions against us. Jesus warns us of a surprise attack, a sudden strike, then we find out that that's what anti-christ is preparing for a year, month, day and hour. Jeremiah 15:6-9 "I have caused him to fall upon it suddenly, and terrors upon the city".

    As a cautionary note about the day of the Lord and America:

    Ezekiel 22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Simonpeter Masya:

    Rain symbolises the HOLY SPIRIT, in the Old Testament God poured out HIS SPIRIT on those he choose to fulfil HIS WORK. He has given the former rain moderately.

    This is the former rain.

    Under the New Covenant the Holy Spirit became available to all mankind,

    This is the latter rain.

    Passover was fourteen days after the beginning of the first month in the Jewish calendar.

    When Christ died and was resurrected at Passover, the FIRST MONTH, it fulfilled this prophecy in Joel 2:23

    The former and latter rain, the out pouring of the Holy Spirit on mankind.
  • Roman - In Reply on Revelation 18 - 2 years ago
    Yes. America is mystery Babylon of Revelation 17, and allies operate the Babylon system. America has become the antithesis of God's church, that sits on 7 continents. Israel has become perverted, the daughter of Babylon. Babylon is defeated by the beast, and the beast continues on 42 months.

    The battle is referred to in 4 Biblical scenarios:

    1) the king of the north vs the king of the south, Daniel 11:40

    2) Esau vs Jacob, Obadiah 1

    3) the beast vs Babylon, Revelation 17

    4) the 6th trumpet beast army defeats the 5th trumpet US army to dust, Revelation 9

    Then, there are scriptures that describe the cataclysmic attack on Babylon's two lands, two houses: Revelation 17 (set up), Joel 2:1-11 (missile description), Isaiah 13, Isaiah 21:1-9, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 21:1-24, Ezekiel 38:1-17, Jeremiah 50, Jeremiah 51, Revelation 18, Luke 21:20-24 (Israel's fall in same hour Joel 3:1) and Isaiah 24 (aftermath).

    Ezekiel 21:12 confirms that the attack is upon God's people. It will be 539 BC all over, again.
  • GiGi - 2 years ago
    Hello Mary, I believe rent means that the garment is torn apart, just like the curtain in the Holy of Holies in the temple was rent from top to bottom when Jesus breathed His last breath on the cross. When something very egregious occurs and is so shocking, grievous, or blasphemous, the person would rend their clothing as an expression of their inward feelings. As to the curtain in the Holy of Holies, it being rent from top to bottom shows that it was done by God and that God's wrath for His offense over our sin was satisfied and now man is reconciled to Him through the body and blood of Christ shed unto death on the cross. Read Hebrews chapter 9.

    So rent or rend is an outward action of tearing a garment in two in reaction to a very serious grievous action of another or as an act of repentance as in Joel that says "rend your heart, not your garments."

    Joel 2:12-13

    "Now, therefore," says the LORD, "Turn to me with all your heart, with fasting, with weeping, and with mourning," So, rend your heart, not your garments; Return to the LORD your God. For He is gracious and merciful, Slow to anger, and of great kindness; He will relent from doing harm."
  • Roman - In Reply on Zephaniah 1:8 - 2 years ago
    Joel 2:1-11 Imagine a 2,700 year old prophet writing something so accurate, like he was transported there, it's uncanny. Joel's account is so accurate, describing smart missiles (Sarmat) coming in through the windows like a thief (Jesus), shaking the ground. Powerful enough to knock the earth off its axis, Isaiah 24:20. The inhabitants of Babylon have no idea the cost it will take to bring down all their earthly principles.
  • Roman - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Alex,

    Daniel 12:1 is talking about the day of the Lord, the 6th trumpet strike, the fall of Babylon, the abomination of desolation, the great tribulation. The world will turn into a curse.

    Ezekiel 38 talks of two clouds to cover the land. Ezekiel 21:19-20 talks about attacking 2 nations from one land. These two lands represent America and Israel, both houses of Israel, Gods people.

    Ezekiel 21 has several depictions of Israel, "my people" vs 12 as being the subject of the slaughter.

    The attack is against America, Israel and every nation allied with America. Isaiah 24:20 states the earth will be hit so hard that it will be knocked of its axis, the sun and moon will refuse to shine 1/3rd the day as a result.

    Who will stop Russia besides nobody, Rev 13:3; they have God on their side. Isaiah 13:1-6, they come from a far country, "even the Lord with them". Joel 2:11, the Lord uttered His voice before "His army". God is preparing the sixth trumpet army (Russia) to annihilate the fifth trumpet army (US) to dust, Revelation 9.

    Nothing like reading about it in real time, just as the little horn Daniel 7:8 starts to make his move.

    Day of the Lord: Isaiah 13, Isaiah 21:1-9, Isaiah 24, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 21:1-24, Ezekiel 38:1-17, Jeremiah 50 & 51, Joel 2:1-11, Revelation 18 & Luke 21:20-24 (Israel's fall in same hour).
  • T Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Interesting question, I do not find Job's age at the beginning of his trials just the ending, Job 42:10-17 , "full of days"

    I was recently reminded & encouraged about feelings of 'time lost' GOD has this blessing HE gives to some of HIS chosen even after the flood. Genesis 25:7, Genesis 27:2, Genesis 35:27-29, Genesis 47:8-9,28, there seems to be a commonality with each : trials, hard times, lost time with a son, a bigger purpose in calling on their lives. Promise of restored years Joel 2:25,
  • Cecil - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Chris,

    I study in with wonderment, no fear, but I know what you mean.

    The judgment is against Babylon, and the rest of the world, but specifically 2 lands. The world past the 6th trumpet will be a curse.

    When America receives the abomination of desolation ( Isaiah 13, Isaiah 47, Joel 2:1-11, Revelation 18), Israel is invaded at the earthquake ( Revelation 6:12) and taken.

    Ezekiel prophetically gives the blueprint that 2 lands, both houses of Israel (Israel & Judah) are to be attacked by Gog, Esau, king of the north, Russia, and soundly taken.

    ( Ezekiel 21:19-20)

    19 Also, thou son of man, appoint thee two ways, that the sword of the king of Babylon may come: both twain shall come forth out of one land: and choose thou a place, choose it at the head of the way to the city.

    20 Appoint a way, that the sword may come to Rabbath of the Ammonites, and to Judah in Jerusalem the defenced.



    Anti-christ rules everything. He rebuilds the temple in Jerusalem where he claims to be God. Jesus said, "Israel will be trodden underfoot 42 months by the Gentiles."

    ( Luke 21:24) And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

    ( Ezekiel 21:12) Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people, it shall be upon all the princes of Israel: terrors by reason of the sword shall be upon my people: smite therefore upon thy thigh.

    "smite upon thy thigh" is a reference to Jacob receiving a wound in the 'hollow of his thigh' after wrestling the angel for the birthright. It coincides with the end-times because the great tribulation (6th trumpet) is referred to as Jacob's time of trouble. America is co-lead for the house of Israel. The Ashkenazim (Japheth) in Israel represent Judah ( Gen 10:2-3).

    Prepare for the 6th trumpet, judgment day. God's people are in trouble.
  • Roman - In Reply on Joel 2 - 2 years ago
    James,

    This is a remarkable capture of the day of the Lord missile strike on US of Babylon. How the missiles are described so 21st century is uncanny. Advanced, Hypersonic, unstoppable. if you have seen a sub fire off 6 missiles, they all go on their own separate paths, unrestricted. They enter in the windows like a thief. Like Jesus thief, coming with His beast army to lay the land desolate. A Russian promo video shows Sarmat dropping Mach 20 warheads over Florida. That fits perfectly "from the south to the north" ( Ezekiel 21:4). The 6th trumpet attack is depicted from the "south to the north", also referred to as "whirlwinds in the south". Mystery Babylon is attacked from the south to the north.

    ( Joel 2:4-11)

    4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.

    5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.

    6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.

    7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:

    8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.

    9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.

    10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:

    11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
  • SolaScrip - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Israel of God, the Children of God, are a Spiritual Race, not a physical ethnic race. How can we be sure?

    "God is a Spirit"

    John 4:24

    "... Israel is My son; even My first-born:"

    Exod. 4:22

    If God is a Spirit, His children must be of the Spirit; not a physical race of people who are centralized in one place in the world. God told us He would strike the Shepherd (Jesus) and the sheep would be scattered. The Israel/Children of God are among every race and in every corner of the world.

    "... They which are the children of THE FLESH, these are NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: ..."

    Rom. 9:8

    The Children of the Spirit are of God; THEY are the True Israel.

    The Day of the Lord in Joel is the same as in Isaiah 13:9-11 & Matt. 24:29-31. It is the Wrath of God, final day judgment. Jesus returns on the very last day of the world which eliminates the possibility of a Millennium period BEFORE these things take place.

    Jesus tells us in John 6:39, 40, 44, 54; John 11:24 & John 12:48 that He is coming on the Last Day of the world. That is the SAME DAY that the Wrath of God takes place. That's why it is called the Lord's (Jesus') Day.

    These verses coincide perfectly with the Matt. and Isaiah verses above.

    "A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, ..."

    Joel 2:2

    "The earth shall quake ... the heavens shall tremble: the sun and moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining: And the Lord shall utter His voice before His army: for the Day of the Lord is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?"

    Joel 2:10-11

    "...let the Bridegroom go forth of His chamber, and the bride out of her closet. (this is Jesus returning for His saints on the same day as the Wrath of God/Day of the Lord - coincides perfectly with Matt. 24:29-31)

    "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible Day of the Lord come."

    Joel 2:31

    There is no place for 1,000 yrs between Jesus' return and the Wrath of God. It does not fit.
  • James on Joel 2 - 2 years ago
    This chapter seems to fit the current world events far more than in the past.

    I think the key to unlocking the prophecies regarding satan let loose, Gog and Magog, the Northern army, the day of the Lord, is to understand who the House of Israel is in the latter days. Hint: all Jews are Israelites, but not all Israelites are Jews. Many Israelites are regathered under one Shepherd and fulfill the unconditional Abrahamic covenant
  • Chris - In Reply on Joel 2 - 2 years ago
    Hello Beth. I don't believe that a piece of paper declaring the marriage of two persons is a requirement of God. Marriage in the days of old were often very elaborate affairs, as still are in countries of Asia, etc., & the presence of so many witnesses & before God, were sufficient evidence of a 'recognized' marriage. In the 13th Century AD, "banns of marriage" were introduced in the U.K. whereby a public announcement in the couple's Church was made over three Sundays prior to the wedding day. But this was done, so that any 'objections' to the proposed marriage could be submitted. And from this 'banns of marriage', marriage licences were introduced later.

    Today, if two people plan on marriage without a ceremony, witnesses, or a licence (i.e. wanting to enter a permanent, loving cohabitation on their terms), would do well to ensure that their union will not suffer in terms of any legal requirements or acceptability in the (Christian) community/Church. Before God, such a union would be considered a marriage & any permanent separation would likewise be deemed a divorce. I feel that it's in the best interests of all, most of all the couple, that a marriage be solemnized officially with a marriage licence received at the end. But before God? A licence is only a piece of paper that can easily be lost or destroyed - it's the agreement, commitment, & sacrificial love between two people that's vital.
  • Beth Hankins on Joel 2 - 2 years ago
    Do you have to have a price of paper to be married inthe eyes of God
  • Leslie - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Adam, man cannot live by the Old Testament alone. Do you have any prophetic observations you'd like to share? Perhaps you can discuss the coming of Elijah (in the order of) Malachi 4:5 before the coming of the dreadful day of the Lord. Or, if the sealing of the tribes prior to the day of the Lord corresponds with 'your young men dreaming dreams'. Joel 2:28. Since the sealed lie dead in the streets for 3 1/2 days, while the beast continues, these visions are most likely to be realized in that 3 1/2 day window prior to the day of the Lord, when the spirit is heavily upon us? Have you ever thought about any of this, the wonder, the mystics, Adam?
  • Leslie - In Reply - 2 years ago
    T Levis

    I noticed you posted Mark 13:24 Please allow me to show you where that scripture fits in. It describes the sixth trumpet, day of the Lord strike. Mark 13:24 kicks off the day of the Lord with smoke. Compare it with these other scriptures describing the same event: Revelation 6:12, Joel 2:1-11, and we see 2 lands (America/Israel) are militarily covered like a cloud: Ezekiel 38:9, Ezekiel 38:16

    Everything ties in and quite a bit of it reads backwards in time.
  • Cecil - 2 years ago
    Isaiah 45:7 God's ways are kind of like our ways, in some ways. At the 6th trumpet God uses a foreign army to bring judgment to "His" wayward people (Babylon) for their disobedience. God is so proud of His 6th trumpet army, His beast army, and the leader who executes His will ( Joel 2:11). Then we come to find out that God is angry at the beast for doing what God had asked of him; destroy Babylon. If God didn't want Isaiah 24 or Obadiah results, why did He bless Russian scientists with the ability to destroy nations? God behaves akin to a mafia boss, just follow the narrative.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Perhaps these relate : Joel 2:23, but read in context: Joel 2, Amos 4:7, context again: Amos 4,

    Hosea 6:3, Psalms 72:6, Proverbs 16:15, Hosea 10:12,

    Maybe : * Deuteronomy 32:2,

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • Jcbu undercover - In Reply - 2 years ago
    God Bless you for your comment.Page 4 of Destiny Dreams and Visions Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward,that I pour out my spirit on all flesh;your son's and your daughters shall prophesy,your old men shall dream dreams,and your young men shall see visions.Mathew 2:12 And being warned in a dream not to return to Herod,they departed to their own country by another way. Acts 18:19 Then spoke the Lord to Paul in the night by a vision,Do not be afraid,but speak,and hold not thy peace. Proverbs 29:18 Where there is no prophetic vision the people cast of restraint,but blessed is he who keeps the law. Purpose To feed the soul,through the eye's into the mind,and heart.Down into the dry bones,to nourish this famished connection,to our God,that supplies all things here,and in the hereafter.To feed until full but always hungering,to please our father in heaven.When we take care of our link to the supernatural God of the universe,he will always give us what we need,and much more.Always with us never forsaking,never breaking the link.To a love ,that is eternal,to our core,deep into a soul,that reaches for the lights of heaven.To look up,in our minds eye,in our hearts eye,in our souls eye.To soar with the eagles,until our time comes to join,in love,with that spirit,that goes beyond understanding.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 15 - 2 years ago
    Please read Genesis 5:1-2, Genesis 1:26-30, here it states plural. It also reasonably suggests multiple to subdue the entire earth. Genesis 1:26, Genesis 1:28,

    Genesis 2:15, was this a separated man? If GOD had already told mankind to subdue the entire earth? Would HE really take him then to dress & tend a special garden HE had made? Or is this symbolic of the Church._. Ezekiel 28:12-15, Ezekiel 31:8-9, Isaiah 58:11, Isaiah 61:11, Joel 2:3? Many times Jesus refers to the "vine dresser", the "stewards", seeds, etc. Luke 13:17, Luke 13:18-21, * John 15:1,5, & many times it's about unfaithfulness of that stewardship many times relating to the "Church" & those in charge. Luke 16:2, Ironic Jesus also being crucified by Garden, John 19:41, & where Jesus was betrayed, bound, taken captive, John 18:26,27, John 18:1-12,

    Genesis 4:1-16, note Genesis 4:14,

    Then you have an unreasonable fear of being killed by vengeance which was completely irrational if there was only Adam & Eve. There in that family -2 mourning the murdered child & 1 on the run. Then you have the outrageous idea that those same two parents would give a daughter to the murderer who already disregarded his brother's life to kill him. Gross, perverted imagination!! Genesis 4:16-17 then he built a city. Genesis 19:4-25, why isn't man killed mentioned? Then Seth's birth.

    The importance of the lineage of Adam & Eve was it led to the Messiah Jesus CHRIST. Luke 3:22-38. Therefore when Eve is called the mother of all living CHRIST even addressed this as "let the dead bury the dead" pointing to spiritual death. Note it doesn't say Eve was of "life" it said mother of living._Genesis 3:20..Note also the day they would surely "die"! Genesis 2:17. Genesis 3:6-8, fear of (death?) eternal judgement? What happened? If it wasn't a spiritual death? Genesis 3:10, loss of fellowship, trust, intimacy even in marriage that's sometimes referred to "death, of the marriage"

    Genesis 6:1-6, Gen 6:6, "earth" not "garden"
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello John,

    I myself have had many beautiful discussions with Mormons & Jehovah Witnesses. I'm sorry if I mix up the teachings. 1st I want to say many of both, are very kind, I liked just about everyone I encountered. With few exceptions. However, many scriptural discussions seemed to point to teaching that was not in-line with JKV HOLY Bible.

    1st important 1= Galatians 1:3-10, 2 Corinthians 11:3-4, teach don't believe another gospel even if an Angel brings, Mormons have a "new" teaching brought from "An Angel".

    2nd Book of Mormon, addition to Bible? Psalms 89:34, Rev. 22:18, Deuteronomy 12:32,

    3rd Mormons teach that Women can't be prophets untrue : Judges 4:4, Luke 2:36, Joel 2:28.

    4th & maybe most important Mormons don't believe CHRIST Jesus is who HE says HE is. : Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, John 19, John 1,

    Why do you ask?

    Baptist are supposed to believe in Scripture.

    I myself like to stick to the WORD of GOD. Those two are not your only choices. The choices really come down to the WORD itself here's some : John 3:15-16, Matthew 25:31-46, James 1:26-27, John 14:16,

    Hopefully this is helpful.
  • Dr. Lyle Lee on Revelation 12 - 2 years ago
    This chapter begins with the woman, she is clothed with the gospel of Jesus Christ as the metaphorical understanding of the sun, has power over Satan, as the metaphorical understanding of the moon under her feet, has the twelve apostles as the metaphorical understanding of the stars. The anti-Christ kingdom is comprised of the seven nations that ruled the middle east historically as; Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medio Persia, Greece, Rome, and the Ottoman Empire. The ten horns are ten Caliph's of the middle east, who rule as kings without kingdoms. The woman is the church of Jesus Christ who brings forth the sons of God as the man child, also known as the overcomers of Rev. 2:26-27 As well as the bride of Christ. Michael and his angels win a war against Satan and his angels, then does salvation come now, for those in the rapture of the man child will be glorified or saved, the kingdom of Christ starts now in the middle of the tribulation, and the power of his Christ, having to do with the two eagle wings given unto the church as the double anointing or the former and latter rain as taught by Joel 2:23
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Fasting has to be a personal decision. Isaiah 58, Matthew 6:16-23, some fast from television, social media, movies

    Some would recommend only a Daniel type fast where he refrained from sweet breads, like cakes, pies, cookies, meats but had rich protiens, Pulse like black eyed peas, lintils, humus, vegetables. Daniel 1:12, Daniel 10:2-3,

    2 Chronicles 20:5-30, 2 Chronicles 20:13, Jonah 3:5, Joel 2:15-18,

    Hopefully these are helpful


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