There are several ways to look at this scripture. It is wrapped in mystery that's not easily meant to see. Esoteric in nature. I can only take the essence of the story and see how fits & splits between Jesus' and satan's earthly ministries. You have to think your way through it, it could take years, some you'll never know. God is going to make you work for what he previously has spelled out in allegory.
Daniel 9:27 allegory makes me envision the beast army forewarning its Babylon attack, thinking about placing the abomination that makes desolate (smart missiles) ( Joel 2:4-11) ( Isaiah 47) ( Revelation 18). This sixth trumpet, surprise event begins anti-christ's 3.5 year reign.
( Daniel 9:27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
I just located the scriptures that show that we won't be shuffling around aimlessly In heaven;
Beyond the time it takes for earth to be purified by fire.
We will have work to do. :D That's why we will help organize, angels work. I have not imagination to try and anticipate anything.
I also feel this deep urge to bow down and worship Jesus! Excited too, to see what He does next!!
Am I nuts or does anyone else find this an awesome prospect?
Right this moment on digs in Israel, they are finding answers, locations, relics of olden sacrifice implements. They found a copper scroll, that the letters were pressed in upon it. Jews are getting thrilled over the discoveries. The 1st copper scroll points to a 2nd one, in another location: supposedly which the Palestinians control. They have no claim against the Covenant of the Land, God made with Abraham. He clearly outlined the perimeters.
"Ishmael descendants", have no claim!!
They do have the same right to become children of God, through Jesus Christ.
PLEEAASSE pray for the Peace of Jerusalem every day. Jesus said it. We need to obey it.
When building on the 3rd Temple commences, all rejection, roadblocks, outcry from non-Jewish governments are going to swell up like a tsunami.
The Antichrist will briefly sit on the 3rd Temple Throne.
I did this very long tracing of history on ancestors sojourns. How one ancestor moved to Moab. Moab was an enemy of The covenant Jews; which persisted. It said they will agree to allow the Jews to flee to the mountains in Moab. For how long I don't know. The Antichrist will pursue them.
My excitement is that these archaeological digs going on now, are a huge leap in prophesy. You will see The Church explode in evangelism as this progresses.
Look at a map with Moab on it. It's not that far. It will be comparable to the Red Sea & Moses.
God is about to pour out the anointing oil of prophesy on those He trusts.
Obadiah 1:10 For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
This is the 1st time we hear claim of violence against Esau. In real life, the last time Esau and Jacob saw each was on the trail, and Jacob feared Esau would kill him for stealing the birthright, ( Genesis 33). Any previous mention of Gog/the beast anti-christ were glowing. God used Esau's "sanctified" beast army to defeat Jacob (Babylon); anti-christ's army are described as "even them that rejoice in my highness". Gog/beast are Christian's from a (frozen) desert ( Isaiah 21:1). The times God brags about His "northern army" are many.
He calls anti-christ's army, "His army", His "sanctified ones" and "His camp".
( Isaiah 13: 3-6) I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.
4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.
5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
( Joel 2:11) And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
What did Esau do to change God's mind into HATING him? Esau did God's will and destroyed Babylon, so what happened beyond that? What violence does anti-christ do to infuriate God?
Jamie, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the sixth seal....
Jesus is telling (not literally) the saints in the Old testament (those described in Hebrews 11) to wait a while longer and they would be glorified at his resurrection.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD come.
The DAY OF THE LORD came when Christ was crucified and resurrected.
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour was there darkness over all the land until the ninth hour.
Matthew 27:51 ...And the earth did quake ....
John 19:34 ....And forthwith came there out blood...
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened, and many bodies of the (old Testament) saints which slept AROSE,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the grave after HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the holy city (new Jerusalem), and appeared to many.
This is the one hundred and forty four thousand that are sealed in Revelation 7.
Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away (Christ replaced it with his death) and the abomination that maketh DESOLATE (Jesus had to become your life) set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days (42 months, Christ ministry on earth).
Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
There was 45 days of silence between Christ Resurrection and Pentecost then the Holy Spirit was poured out on man (Christ second coming).
We all minister to the saints, You can do that without uttering a word! You're ministering when you're helping, There's no office or gift that stands out above another being that God gave the Church these Ministers and also the gifts.
Joel 2:28 " I will pour out my spirit on
" ALL "flesh, Have that happen yet? I'm afraid not. Has "ALL" Israel began to Prophecy? No but they will during the Millennium.
Peter said in
Acts 2:16. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; " IT IS LIKE THAT OF JOEL'S PROPHECY.
God said "I will pour my spirit upon ALL flesh" This parallels with Ezekiel 37. They're in the land but have they received the Spirit? NO.
Ezekiel 37:14. AND SHALL PUT MY SPIRIT IN YOU, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.
Joel 2:27-28. And ye shall know that I am in the midst of ISRAEL, AND THAT I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD, and none else: and MY PEOPLE SHALL NEVER BE ASHAMED.
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
( THIS IS DURING THE MILLENNIUM )
HERE'S THE CHURCH INSTRUCTIONS.
Ephesians 4:11-12. And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Paul says the Older woman is to teach the younger.
Titus 2:3-4.
1 Timothy 2:11-15. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
Women In Ministry in the Last Days - In Reply - 3 years ago
Wesley's Notes for Joel 2:28
2:28 Afterward - After the return out of Babylon, after the various troubles and salvations by which these may know that I am the Lord. I will pour - In extraordinary gifts on the first preachers of the gospel, and in various graces to all believers. Upon all flesh - Before these gifts were confined to one particular nation; but now they shall be enlarged to all nations, and all that believe. Shall prophesy - This was in part fulfilled according to the letter in the first days of the gospel; but the promise MEANS FARTHER, by pouring out of the spirit on your sons and your daughters, they shall have as full a knowledge of the mysteries of God's law, as prophets before time had. Shalt dream dreams - This also was literally fulfilled in the apostles days. But it may MEAN FARTHER
, the knowledge of God and his will, shall abound among all ranks, SEXES and ages in the Messiah's days, and not only equal, but surpass all that formerly was by prophesy, dreams, or visions.
In my experience, we all submit ourselves to learn under Church Leadership. You grow up. You involve yourself in Ministry of some kind; and demonstrate faithfulness to growing others up.
You do not think highly of your abilities until you put in some time, learning and doing. You can practice on people in these comment rooms. There are scholars here, and babes in Christ. Perhaps become involved in evangelism...where the rubber meets the road. Certainly, be part of intercession prayer groups.
One teacher that I met in a week Conference at my Church (open to men and women) is an excellent equipping teacher. Go on YouTube and look up, Iverna Tompkins.
If you read that Commentary on Joel, you'll see it speaks of a future generation. If God has a call on your life, it will grow only as you're willing to grow it. Sometimes our presumptions die grizzly deaths; but in the end we will shine like gold, in the Masters Hand.
Women Preachers in prophesy - In Reply on Romans 1 - 3 years ago
Wesley's Notes for Joel 2:28
2:28 Afterward - After the return out of Babylon, after the various troubles and salvations by which these may know that I am the Lord. I will pour - In extraordinary gifts on the first preachers of the gospel, and in various graces to all believers. Upon all flesh - Before these gifts were confined to one particular nation; but now they shall be ENLARGED to all nations, and all that believe. Shall prophesy - This was in part fulfilled according to the letter in the first days of the gospel; BUT the promise means farther, by pouring out of the spirit on your sons and your DAUGHTERS, they shall have as full a knowledge of the mysteries of God's law, as prophets before time had. Shalt dream dreams - This also was literally fulfilled in the apostles days. But it may mean farther, the knowledge of God and his will, shall abound among all ranks, SEXES and AGES in the Messiah's days, and not only equal, but surpass all that formerly was by prophesy, dreams, or visions.
Mishael comment: (no offense intended). This prophesy is a call of God on people's lives. It's holy and should be treated thus so. It is not a license to behave unorderly in the House of God. You give your life and ministry to the Lord and He will make a way for you. There are no small beginnings, but we need to make some mistakes so the anointing of the Holy Spirit will fall upon The Word being taught or preached. He is your Teacher and "coach". See some examples first. I rather like Iverna Tompkins sermons on YouTube. She came to my church for some days. When the ANOINTING is from God, you can tell.
Lead some Bible studies; get some evangelism experience; all very useful. Study to show yourself approved...unto God! Prayer is your bedrock of strength. The Prayer Room on this website is great, to grow your prayer life.
You haven't noticed who's who, which lends credence that you don't know the prophets, or what they saw, or what they're saying. Your prophetic scope is limited, nothing more than Biblical malpractice, especially when I correct most every post you create with hard facts. It's as if you don't realize the catastrophe inching our way, like the prophets wrote hyperbole.
Ezekiel 38:1-17 and Revelation 17/18 are analogous with each other, they describe the same event from a different angle. There's more matching verses: "the day of the Lord": Is 13, Is 17, Is 21:1-9, Is 24, Is 47, Ez 21:1-24, Ez 38:1-17, Jeremiah 50/51, Joel 2:1-11, Rev 17 & Luke 21:20-24 (Israel's fall). Do you see that all the prophets discuss the SAME EVENT, the fall of Babylon? The beast, Russia/China+ will mortally attack America the whore to smithereens. The battle is over in under 1 hour.
Let's say America survives the sixth trumpet abomination of desolation, that means when Christ returns at the seventh trumpet, He will destroy US, Russia and China. Do you see how dumb that scenario is? Babylon must fall at the sixth trumpet.
There is only 1 beast and 1 Babylon, and you don't know them. How can you know the order that is unfolding to be so void. The knowledge is obviously hidden from you. You can't even see Russia and China getting tough with threats. Russia's arsenal makes Putin bold.
Who they are, the beast and Babylon, through their descriptions. Who are these 2 powerful nations? I know you have a difficult time with it, but America is a treacherous dealer. If you are going to deny my work, you need to answer up. If you don't know who they are, or can't say who they are, then you have no business refuting my claim.
But Peter also pertaining to Joel says In the last days , which last time I checked, we are still in the last says. We have experienced these even greater than the days of pentecost, because God is giving revelation on things that will happen right up till He actually comes for the battle of Armageddon.For years He has been showing us through music and movies what was coming. EX. The movie "Armageddon " shows a meteor coming to hit the planet, and that is going to happen.Rage against the machine was taken to court right after the towers went down because of lyrics in one of their songs would lead you to think they knew about the attack, before hand when they didn't know, they were just singing what they were led to sing.So prophesying is still taking place today
Jack, I don't proclaim to know who the end time nations are, but I see the weapons they will use. I looked at Russia's weapons, and then I wondered why I thought Russia had nothing but old rusted out junk. OneSarmat missile can destroy a country the size of France. Even the most advanced anti-missile systems of the world will not stop Sarmat ( Joel 2:7-11)
Good day to you my brother Earl. As I also enjoyed reading of your post of Scriptures put together.
A couple interesting things the Holy Spirit has led me to today studying the Scriptures.
One thing just interesting was that is was a "sin", or not allowed, for a high priest to rend his clothes. Leviticus 21:10. As the high priest is said to have done in Mark 14:63.
On a more divine note that in the OT in Joel 2:32 stating "whosoever shall call upon the name of the LORD shall be delivered/saved". Speaking of YHWH Almighty God. In Romans 10:13 almost the same words though now speaking of Christ. John 10:30,
Brother Carl, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and his understanding.
Revelation 22:6 ...sent his angel to shew unto his servants the THINGS which must be SHORTLY DONE.
Revelation 22:10 ....for the time is at hand.
NO ONE could be BORN AGAIN until the seventh seal was opened.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, an lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood.
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the terrible and great day of the Lord come.
The DAY OF THE LORD came when John the baptist began preaching the kingdom of God.
Matthew 27:54 Now when the centurion, and those that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the EARTHQUAKE and those things which were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
Matthew 27:47 Now from the sixth hour there was DARKNESS over the land until the ninth hour.
John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there BLOOD and water.
Jesus was crucified when the sixth seal was opened.
Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was SILENCE in heaven about the space of half an hour.
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Daniel 12:11 And from the time the daily sacrifice shall be take away, and the abomination that makes desolate set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred ninety days.
Forty two months, three and a half years, time and times and a half. Jesus ministry in the flesh, ending in his death and resurrection. Then silence until forty five days latter and PENTECOST.
Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the one thousand three hundred thirty days.
At Pentecost THE MYSTERY was revealed, the seal on Daniel's prophecy was opened: CHRIST IN YOU
Brother Judge, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had open the SIXTH SEAL, and , lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon turned to blood;
This was fulfilled at CHRIST death and resurrection. This prophecy is in:
Joel 2:3 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD COME.
The one hundred forty four thousand in Revelation 7 are the Old Testament saints that were raised with Christ at his resurrection.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints WHICH SLEPT AROSE,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves after HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the HOLY CITY (New Jerusalem) and appeared to many.
These Old Testament saints all died in FAITH; but, was never able to receive the promise of eternal life until Christ resurrection. This is shown in:
Hebrews 11:39 And all these, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise (eternal life).
Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some BETTER THING FOR US (eternal life), that THEY without US should not BE MADE PERFECT (accomplished by the death and resurrection of Christ).
YES, thy along with John and all other saints now IN CHRIST are MINISTERING SPIRITS; to us, HERE and NOW.
Hebrews 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, SENT FORTH to minister FOR THEM WHO SHALL BE HEIRS OF SALVATION.
This is the role of ALL IN CHRIST at the time they are GLORIFIED.
You have a misunderstanding of what "the day of the Lord" is. It is not a joyous occasion, but the opposite. It is a one hour long battle, at the sixth trumpet, second woe. War. It is judgment day for the people of earth, leaders, bringing forth great tribulation. Read what really happens that day: Isaiah 13, Isaiah 21:1-9, Isaiah 24, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 21:1-24, Ezekiel 38:1-17, Jeremiah 50/51, Joel 2:1-11, Revelation 17/18 & Luke 21:20-24 (Israel's fall).
Please tell me you understand what that term means.
Why not talk more about the end-times, so the ignorant may become wise? Something big is coming our way, catastrophic. You are bright with the NT, no doubt, but what of the OT? Jesus never shied away from honoring the prophets, and without them, there'd be nothing to fulfill. More importantly, in our times, we are seeing Revelation unfold. Shouldn't you understand the signs and tell the people over affirmations?
Do you know how many Christians believe Jesus is coming next to save us, while not understanding antichrist must yield 42 months of world power, prior to Messiah's appearing? Christians are in a spiritual haze, without compass, no order of semblance or understanding. They know what someone has told them.
I see 99% NT here, some to never know the prophets are more accurate than the morning newspaper. The prophets paint America as Mystery Babylon (new Rome) that gets hit with the "abomination of desolation" at the day of the Lord, sixth trumpet. There's only east vs west powers left: beast & Babylon. Come to terms with America being that evil, backsliding militant government, where in one hour is brought to naught. ( Revelation 18:18-20) God avenges the blood of prophets on her, the same forgotten prophets of today.
The day of the Lord does not mean what most think it does ( Isaiah 13) ( Isaiah 47) ( Revelation 18). For people of earth, Babylon, it is a day of darkness and thick dark clouds. The beast has super weapons ( Ezekiel 21:9-12); devices ( Daniel 11:25) at sixth trumpet, and ( Daniel 11:24) post sixth trumpet. His weapons cause enough damage to knock the earth off its axis ( Isaiah 24:20) wobble, causing less daylight, a global curse. Joel 2:1-11 gives a visceral account of the unstoppable smart missile strike. The sixth trumpet is effectively the destruction of the whole house of Israel ( Isaiah 24), save the one hundred forty four thousand, elect. Between the sixth and seventh trumpets lie mans worst days.
I did not say repentance is a false doctrine, I said repenting of your sins to be saved is a false doctrine. Big difference. The reason we are KJV Only is because of the doctrine it teaches. In the whole Bible, God Himself repented even more than anyone else ( Gen 6:6, Gen 6:7, Ex 32:12-14, Deut 32:36, Judg 2:18, 1 Sam 15:11, 1 Sam 15:35, 2 Sam 24:16; 1 Chron 21:15; Psa 90:13, Psa 106:45, Psa 135:14, Jer 18:8, Jer 26:3, 13, 19, Jer 42:10, Joel 2:13-14; Amos 7:3, 6; Jonah 3:9-10; 4:2) Does that mean that God is a sinner for Him to repent? No! But these modern translations have used the word "God relented..." everywhere that God repented, to justify the idea that you only repent of your sins.
Infact there is no verse that says "Repent your sins"!! A verse that atleast comes close to that is "Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee." in Acts 8:22 and it was about Simon who WAS ALREADY SAVED(in verse 13) and he wanted to offer money to get power to lay hands on others and was rebuked by Peter. Simon was to "turn from what he was doing wrong, to do what is right".
As Christians are we supposed to repent after getting saved? YES! Because we keep sinning even after getting saved. We need to turn back to God and seek His ways rather than our ways. But for Salvation, you only need to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
The only repentance in regard to salvation that is Biblical is when you turn from a false religion, to Christ, because you cant be in Christ and also in another religion. You must repent(turn from the false religion) and then accept Christ, just like the Thessalonians ----> 1 Thessalonians 1:9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
Helena loves Jesus Christ - In Reply on Joel 2 - 3 years ago
Praise the Lord! Sandra, Yes we are in a difficult time but don't lose hope and be encouraged, Jesus Christ loves you and alive and everywhere and not only found in a church building so you can have praise and worship with the Lord in your home.
Acts chapter 2:4 is regarding speaking in tongue and have been listening and learning on youtube-honest news network, Brother Skinner and there are so many lessons on there and it has helped me to grow in the Lord.
There is nothing too hard for God, Mark 5:25 and Isaiah 53:5 regarding healing.
God bless you and may the Lord keep you safe under his wings Psalms 17:8.
The witnesses are special enough to be the subject of 5 Chapters, and that they're hidden from you until I come along. Just prior to the 6th trumpet ( Revelation 7:1-3), the elect 144,000 are sealed for 3.5 years (42 months) against death. At the end of their testimony, these elect will lay dead in the street for 3.5 days, then taken up in the clouds at the seventh trumpet, second coming of Jesus Christ. Since antichrist is revealed at the start of the sixth trumpet, ( 2 Thessalonians 2:3) the day of the Lord, his 3.5 years expire at the start of the seventh trumpet. The elect die 3.5 days before the seventh trumpet resurrection, while antichrist's time hasn't come yet. This leaves a 3.5 day gap between the tribes being sealed, and the sixth trumpet. For prophesy to be fulfilled, the 144,000 must receive a full 1,260 days of sealed protection.
The tribes are sealed 3.5 days prior to the sixth trumpet, day of the Lord. What will they do in that 3.5 day day window?
( Joel 2:28-31) And it shall come to pass afterward [( Acts 2:17-21) And it shall come to pass in the last days], that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:...
Could this Holy Ghost outpour occur during the 3.5 day "gap" prior to the day of the Lord, so that we, with the elect, should all (flesh) receive the Holy Ghost?
We also have the promise of ( Malachi 4:5) Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: [between Revelation 6:14 & Revelation 6:12?]
( Revelation 16:15) Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. [Jesus comes as a thief at both sixth & seventh trumpets]
vs 18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face
vs 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
( Revelation 11:15) And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. ( Revelation 16:17) ( John 19:30)
( Ezekiel 37:1-14) Resurrection: ...vs 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. vs 11 ...these bones are the whole house of Israel. vs 14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live,..
( Matthew 24:30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
( Revelation 1:7)
( Revelation 19:11-16)
( Revelation 19:19-20)
vs 20 ...Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. ( Zechariah 14:1-4) ....Then shall the LORD go forth...And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives...
( Zechariah 14:12)
God removes the 'northern army':
( Joel 2:20-21)
( Daniel 11:40)
( Jeremiah 6:22-23)
( Jeremiah 50:3)
( Jeremiah 50:41)
vs 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Part 1 of 4: Gog's sixth trumpet attack on Israel (house):
vs 3 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
vs 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company withbucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
( 2 Thessalonians 2:6) And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
vs 7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
( Revelation 9:15) And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
vs 8 After many days....in the latter years thou shalt come...against the mountains of Israel (house), and they shall dwell safely all of them...
( Revelation 9:13) And the sixth angel sounded....
vs 9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
God is against Gog, yet Gog is finally brought forth in the latter days to do God's will against Israel, Babylon, and eventually every world government. The first "cloud to cover the land" is reported. Israel (house) is being attacked.
( Jeremiah 5:15) Lo, I will bring a nation upon you from far, O house of Israel, saith the LORD: it is a mighty nation...
( Isaiah 13:5-6) They come from a far country...
( Joel 2:3-11) ...the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness...
( Isaiah 47) vs 9 But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood..
over 15 or more years ago I was going to Kings church in Humble, TX and a friend annointed me and the next time i went to church I spoke in tongues can u point me to scripture about it as I need to find a church where others speak in tongues so I dont feel out of place. A lot of churches dont speak in tongues. Most people look at me funny and think i am some kind of witch. I havent been religous much and have been locked in house since the covid thing, in 5 years since I've livedin Cedar Park, texas. I came down with staage 4 cancer and I am on chemo and have started searching out the bible thru different shows on utube, apostles and prophets. Thanks for listening.
Rev robert, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
Revelation 14
Revelation 15
Revelation 16
This is the work of CHRIST DEATH on the cross and the work of HIS RESURRECTION and the battle ( Revelation 16:14) we are caused to fight to come to this TRUTH IN CHRIST. Being fulfilled for the last 2000 years as the Fathers draws us to CHRIST and CHRIST gives us HIS UNDERSTANDING to overcome. ASK HIM he will cause you to understand; but it HIS time frame. We have been in the day of the Lord now for 2000 years. He is harvesting HIS FRUITS as they become first ripe (firstfruits) ( Revelation 14:14-20) ( Matthew 20:1-16)
When the sixth seal was opened ( Revelation 6:12) Christ was crucified; prophecy of ( Joel 2:31). The old testament saints and the children of the resurrection were raised with him ( Isaiah 26:19),( Revelation 20:5-6) and ( Matthew 27:52-53). The old testament saints were sealed with the Holy Spirit and the body of Christ ( 1 Timothy 6:16)( Revelation 7:3-8). There was silence in heaven for one half hour ( Revelation 8:1) between the sixth and seventh seal. This is the 45 days between Christ resurrection and pentecost ( Daniel 12:11-12) 1335 days minus 1290 days. No one could enter into the temple (into Christ) until the seven plagues were pour out on Christ (he took God's wrath for us). now we can be ONE IN CHRIST ( Revelation 15:6-8). The four living creatures before the throne ( Revelation 4:6-8) is all creation. God made a covenant with Noah that they would never be destroyed again ( Genesis 9:9-12) man, cattle, beast and fowl. ( Ezekiel 1:10) ( Revelation 4:7). ALL CREATION will worship God. The lake of fire is how Christ cleanses and purifies us.
I agree when satan's kicked out of heaven and that initiates the 6th trumpet, 2nd woe, day of the Lord. For reference, here are a few describing the same event from different angles: Isaiah 13, Isaiah 21:1-9, Isaiah 24, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 21:1-24, Ezekiel 38:1-17, Joel 2:1-11, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, Revelation 18. This battle is over in an hour.
Daniel 9:27 I see what you are saying about the language, the dualism. At this point, I need to examine other evidence surrounding this verse, compared to other scriptures to better pin point what is going on.
Right off the bat, it is well known that the day of the Lord sees Jesus coming like a thief with His northern army to lay the land desolate. God states that anti-Christ's army is His army, Joel 2: 10-11
Seeing then that I will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked, therefore shall my sword go forth out of his sheath against all flesh from the south to the north: Ezekiel 21:1-7 "MY sword will go out of HIS sheath".
Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty, Isaiah 13: 6 This characteristic of the strike is synonymous with the man of sin, spoiler at noonday, anti-Christs.
God furbishes a sword and places it in the slayers (anti-Christ's) hand, Ezekiel 21:9-12 Russia has God-like weaponry, God has blessed Russia's scientists. Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty, Ezekiel 21:12
The 70 weeks is a classic Bible mystery. I will study it again. The way I explained it to you makes sense to me considering the 6th trumpet lasts 42 months. I have no strong convictions towards it, and would evolve my mind if I was presented a sound concept. As it stands, it is a side bar to my love of the Lord and His prophets.
Rome was the empire of the day, everything revolved around it. The Catholic church is ensconced with satan, the Jesuits (Jewish Christians) push Gematria and witchcraft. Past empires are interchangeable with current empires. The Bible will not explicitly tell you this, you have to think for yourself. It is no different than when Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia and Greeks held the same title. That is how prophesy flows. In our day, it is America that holds this title. We see in Rev 17 only that a new character has emerged, called Mystery Babylon, a new mighty end-time empire, a geopolitical and military superpower that rules the world. Outside it's America. Read Jeremiah 50 and 51 (like US states) as they both describe America to a T. Who else fits Mystery Babylon's description? Who is the beast from description?
-Mystery Babylon is America that gets destroyed.
-Babylon proper consists of America's allies, to include Israel that gets destroyed in the same hour.
Study the day of the Lord to see that "God's army", Joel 2:11, the northern army (Russia+) that obliterates the southern army ( Dan 11:40) to rule the world. Anti-christ sets up in the temple claiming to be God, unhindered. Where is America post 6th trumpet, and why is the beast the only empire around? The earth doesn't get knocked of its axis battling the RCC, an evil spirit. The whore America is no where to be found, hell has come to greet it at its departure.
America wants to sit a queen forever ( Isaiah 47) against Jesus, and the prophets. This Mystery Babylon, who's king (does Rome have a king?) hath heard the report of them (missiles), and his hands waxed feeble: anguish took hold of him, and pangs as of a woman in travail, Jeremiah 50:43 Reap it America.
There are at least 90 scriptures concerning the day of the Lord strike. They tell the story far better better than I can. Many people are bias because they love America, up until the flame comes.
The last 2 trumpets are indirectly attributed to Jesus; they couple punishment with extreme violence. Of course the people on earth will be playing the attacks out to its desired outcome. Jesus in the flesh was void of sin, but trumpeted Jesus takes care of business.
1) There is the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord (named for Jesus), is punishment on a vile world from the Almighty. A day responsible for 1/3rd of humanities demise. Revelation 15: Jesus says "Behold, I come as a thief".......to lay the land desolate.
Those that dwell in heaven despise Mystery Babylon and Babylon proper to death. Joel gives a spectacular account of the missile strike on Babylon (America) Joel 2: 1-11, while on the other side of the world, in the self-same hour, Israel is invaded by the beast army and taken, Luke 21:20-24. Hell from beneath will rise up to greet Babylon at its departure, Isaiah 14:9 The current system will be torn down, and will be replaced with hell on earth.
2) Then there is the 7th trumpet slaughter featuring a transfigured Jesus, with a new name only He knows, Revelation 19:12, who defeats anti-christ's fractured beast army. It is Jesus returning with His army of resurrected saints to take possession of the earth. Revelation 14:20 The blood will be up to the horses bridle (in the valley).
In both trumpets, it is Jesus doling out judgment on an evil world, and in His Godly capacity. America and Israel have been poisoned by satan, enough so for God to commence and fulfill all the words of his servants, the prophets.
From scripture, it is easy to tell who the beast is from Mystery Babylon.
At the 5th trumpet, on 9/11, America attacked itself starting their phony war on terror.
At the 6th trumpet the beast Russia & China (iron/clay) desolate Mystery Babylon America within 1 hour.
This is anti-christ's rule of the entire world. Anti-christ destroys America and dismantles her allies. God specifically targets Mystery Babylon America. Who would think such an upstanding Christian nation would get their cup filled to the double?
At the 7th trumpet, Jesus with a new name defeats beast Russia/China. Remind me where America is..was.
Why do you suppose Russia has God-like weaponry that can't be defended against?
Ez 21:9-12. 9 Son of man, prophesy, and say, Thus saith the Lord; Say, A sword, a sword is sharpened, and also furbished:
10 It is sharpened to make a sore slaughter; it is furbished that it may glitter: should we then make mirth? it contemneth the rod of my son, as every tree.
11 And he hath given it to be furbished, that it may be handled: this sword is sharpened, and it is furbished, to give it into the hand of the slayer.
12 Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people, it shall be upon all the princes of Israel: terrors by reason of the sword shall be upon my people: smite therefore upon thy thigh. (Reference to Jacob's time of trouble, wrestling for his stolen birthright)
Do you see how the Lord has furbished a sword and put it in the hand of the slayer, Russia, the 10 toed beast.
Do you see that God intends the strike to be against HIS OWN PEOPLE!!! Against Jacob (US made desolate/Israel invaded 42 months) Where is America to protect it's partner in crime, Israel? Luke 21:20-24. Gone, via Isaiah 47, Joel 2:1-11, Rev 18, the abomination of desolation ushers in Antichrist's rule.
You will not understand if you refuse to entertain new insights. It's a complete wash when everyone of knowledge is stuck to themselves.
There are several ways to look at this scripture. It is wrapped in mystery that's not easily meant to see. Esoteric in nature. I can only take the essence of the story and see how fits & splits between Jesus' and satan's earthly ministries. You have to think your way through it, it could take years, some you'll never know. God is going to make you work for what he previously has spelled out in allegory.
Daniel 9:27 allegory makes me envision the beast army forewarning its Babylon attack, thinking about placing the abomination that makes desolate (smart missiles) ( Joel 2:4-11) ( Isaiah 47) ( Revelation 18). This sixth trumpet, surprise event begins anti-christ's 3.5 year reign.
( Daniel 9:27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Beyond the time it takes for earth to be purified by fire.
We will have work to do. :D That's why we will help organize, angels work. I have not imagination to try and anticipate anything.
I also feel this deep urge to bow down and worship Jesus! Excited too, to see what He does next!!
Am I nuts or does anyone else find this an awesome prospect?
Right this moment on digs in Israel, they are finding answers, locations, relics of olden sacrifice implements. They found a copper scroll, that the letters were pressed in upon it. Jews are getting thrilled over the discoveries. The 1st copper scroll points to a 2nd one, in another location: supposedly which the Palestinians control. They have no claim against the Covenant of the Land, God made with Abraham. He clearly outlined the perimeters.
"Ishmael descendants", have no claim!!
They do have the same right to become children of God, through Jesus Christ.
PLEEAASSE pray for the Peace of Jerusalem every day. Jesus said it. We need to obey it.
When building on the 3rd Temple commences, all rejection, roadblocks, outcry from non-Jewish governments are going to swell up like a tsunami.
The Antichrist will briefly sit on the 3rd Temple Throne.
I did this very long tracing of history on ancestors sojourns. How one ancestor moved to Moab. Moab was an enemy of The covenant Jews; which persisted. It said they will agree to allow the Jews to flee to the mountains in Moab. For how long I don't know. The Antichrist will pursue them.
My excitement is that these archaeological digs going on now, are a huge leap in prophesy. You will see The Church explode in evangelism as this progresses.
Look at a map with Moab on it. It's not that far. It will be comparable to the Red Sea & Moses.
God is about to pour out the anointing oil of prophesy on those He trusts.
Joel 2:18-32
This is the 1st time we hear claim of violence against Esau. In real life, the last time Esau and Jacob saw each was on the trail, and Jacob feared Esau would kill him for stealing the birthright, ( Genesis 33). Any previous mention of Gog/the beast anti-christ were glowing. God used Esau's "sanctified" beast army to defeat Jacob (Babylon); anti-christ's army are described as "even them that rejoice in my highness". Gog/beast are Christian's from a (frozen) desert ( Isaiah 21:1). The times God brags about His "northern army" are many.
He calls anti-christ's army, "His army", His "sanctified ones" and "His camp".
( Isaiah 13: 3-6) I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.
4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.
5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
( Joel 2:11) And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
What did Esau do to change God's mind into HATING him? Esau did God's will and destroyed Babylon, so what happened beyond that? What violence does anti-christ do to infuriate God?
Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the sixth seal....
Jesus is telling (not literally) the saints in the Old testament (those described in Hebrews 11) to wait a while longer and they would be glorified at his resurrection.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD come.
The DAY OF THE LORD came when Christ was crucified and resurrected.
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour was there darkness over all the land until the ninth hour.
Matthew 27:51 ...And the earth did quake ....
John 19:34 ....And forthwith came there out blood...
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened, and many bodies of the (old Testament) saints which slept AROSE,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the grave after HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the holy city (new Jerusalem), and appeared to many.
This is the one hundred and forty four thousand that are sealed in Revelation 7.
Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away (Christ replaced it with his death) and the abomination that maketh DESOLATE (Jesus had to become your life) set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days (42 months, Christ ministry on earth).
Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
There was 45 days of silence between Christ Resurrection and Pentecost then the Holy Spirit was poured out on man (Christ second coming).
We all minister to the saints, You can do that without uttering a word! You're ministering when you're helping, There's no office or gift that stands out above another being that God gave the Church these Ministers and also the gifts.
Joel 2:28 " I will pour out my spirit on
" ALL "flesh, Have that happen yet? I'm afraid not. Has "ALL" Israel began to Prophecy? No but they will during the Millennium.
Peter said in
Acts 2:16. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; " IT IS LIKE THAT OF JOEL'S PROPHECY.
God said "I will pour my spirit upon ALL flesh" This parallels with Ezekiel 37. They're in the land but have they received the Spirit? NO.
Ezekiel 37:14. AND SHALL PUT MY SPIRIT IN YOU, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.
Joel 2:27-28. And ye shall know that I am in the midst of ISRAEL, AND THAT I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD, and none else: and MY PEOPLE SHALL NEVER BE ASHAMED.
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
( THIS IS DURING THE MILLENNIUM )
HERE'S THE CHURCH INSTRUCTIONS.
Ephesians 4:11-12. And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Paul says the Older woman is to teach the younger.
Titus 2:3-4.
1 Timothy 2:11-15. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
GB.
2:28 Afterward - After the return out of Babylon, after the various troubles and salvations by which these may know that I am the Lord. I will pour - In extraordinary gifts on the first preachers of the gospel, and in various graces to all believers. Upon all flesh - Before these gifts were confined to one particular nation; but now they shall be enlarged to all nations, and all that believe. Shall prophesy - This was in part fulfilled according to the letter in the first days of the gospel; but the promise MEANS FARTHER, by pouring out of the spirit on your sons and your daughters, they shall have as full a knowledge of the mysteries of God's law, as prophets before time had. Shalt dream dreams - This also was literally fulfilled in the apostles days. But it may MEAN FARTHER
, the knowledge of God and his will, shall abound among all ranks, SEXES and ages in the Messiah's days, and not only equal, but surpass all that formerly was by prophesy, dreams, or visions.
In my experience, we all submit ourselves to learn under Church Leadership. You grow up. You involve yourself in Ministry of some kind; and demonstrate faithfulness to growing others up.
You do not think highly of your abilities until you put in some time, learning and doing. You can practice on people in these comment rooms. There are scholars here, and babes in Christ. Perhaps become involved in evangelism...where the rubber meets the road. Certainly, be part of intercession prayer groups.
One teacher that I met in a week Conference at my Church (open to men and women) is an excellent equipping teacher. Go on YouTube and look up, Iverna Tompkins.
If you read that Commentary on Joel, you'll see it speaks of a future generation. If God has a call on your life, it will grow only as you're willing to grow it. Sometimes our presumptions die grizzly deaths; but in the end we will shine like gold, in the Masters Hand.
Be of good courage.
2:28 Afterward - After the return out of Babylon, after the various troubles and salvations by which these may know that I am the Lord. I will pour - In extraordinary gifts on the first preachers of the gospel, and in various graces to all believers. Upon all flesh - Before these gifts were confined to one particular nation; but now they shall be ENLARGED to all nations, and all that believe. Shall prophesy - This was in part fulfilled according to the letter in the first days of the gospel; BUT the promise means farther, by pouring out of the spirit on your sons and your DAUGHTERS, they shall have as full a knowledge of the mysteries of God's law, as prophets before time had. Shalt dream dreams - This also was literally fulfilled in the apostles days. But it may mean farther, the knowledge of God and his will, shall abound among all ranks, SEXES and AGES in the Messiah's days, and not only equal, but surpass all that formerly was by prophesy, dreams, or visions.
Mishael comment: (no offense intended). This prophesy is a call of God on people's lives. It's holy and should be treated thus so. It is not a license to behave unorderly in the House of God. You give your life and ministry to the Lord and He will make a way for you. There are no small beginnings, but we need to make some mistakes so the anointing of the Holy Spirit will fall upon The Word being taught or preached. He is your Teacher and "coach". See some examples first. I rather like Iverna Tompkins sermons on YouTube. She came to my church for some days. When the ANOINTING is from God, you can tell.
Lead some Bible studies; get some evangelism experience; all very useful. Study to show yourself approved...unto God! Prayer is your bedrock of strength. The Prayer Room on this website is great, to grow your prayer life.
Get closer to the Holy Spirit.'
Ezekiel 38:1-17 and Revelation 17/18 are analogous with each other, they describe the same event from a different angle. There's more matching verses: "the day of the Lord": Is 13, Is 17, Is 21:1-9, Is 24, Is 47, Ez 21:1-24, Ez 38:1-17, Jeremiah 50/51, Joel 2:1-11, Rev 17 & Luke 21:20-24 (Israel's fall). Do you see that all the prophets discuss the SAME EVENT, the fall of Babylon? The beast, Russia/China+ will mortally attack America the whore to smithereens. The battle is over in under 1 hour.
Let's say America survives the sixth trumpet abomination of desolation, that means when Christ returns at the seventh trumpet, He will destroy US, Russia and China. Do you see how dumb that scenario is? Babylon must fall at the sixth trumpet.
There is only 1 beast and 1 Babylon, and you don't know them. How can you know the order that is unfolding to be so void. The knowledge is obviously hidden from you. You can't even see Russia and China getting tough with threats. Russia's arsenal makes Putin bold.
Who they are, the beast and Babylon, through their descriptions. Who are these 2 powerful nations? I know you have a difficult time with it, but America is a treacherous dealer. If you are going to deny my work, you need to answer up. If you don't know who they are, or can't say who they are, then you have no business refuting my claim.
A couple interesting things the Holy Spirit has led me to today studying the Scriptures.
One thing just interesting was that is was a "sin", or not allowed, for a high priest to rend his clothes. Leviticus 21:10. As the high priest is said to have done in Mark 14:63.
On a more divine note that in the OT in Joel 2:32 stating "whosoever shall call upon the name of the LORD shall be delivered/saved". Speaking of YHWH Almighty God. In Romans 10:13 almost the same words though now speaking of Christ. John 10:30,
Have a Blessed day brother Earl.
Revelation 22:6 ...sent his angel to shew unto his servants the THINGS which must be SHORTLY DONE.
Revelation 22:10 ....for the time is at hand.
NO ONE could be BORN AGAIN until the seventh seal was opened.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, an lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood.
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the terrible and great day of the Lord come.
The DAY OF THE LORD came when John the baptist began preaching the kingdom of God.
Matthew 27:54 Now when the centurion, and those that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the EARTHQUAKE and those things which were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
Matthew 27:47 Now from the sixth hour there was DARKNESS over the land until the ninth hour.
John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there BLOOD and water.
Jesus was crucified when the sixth seal was opened.
Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was SILENCE in heaven about the space of half an hour.
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Daniel 12:11 And from the time the daily sacrifice shall be take away, and the abomination that makes desolate set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred ninety days.
Forty two months, three and a half years, time and times and a half. Jesus ministry in the flesh, ending in his death and resurrection. Then silence until forty five days latter and PENTECOST.
Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the one thousand three hundred thirty days.
At Pentecost THE MYSTERY was revealed, the seal on Daniel's prophecy was opened: CHRIST IN YOU
became possible.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had open the SIXTH SEAL, and , lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon turned to blood;
This was fulfilled at CHRIST death and resurrection. This prophecy is in:
Joel 2:3 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD COME.
The one hundred forty four thousand in Revelation 7 are the Old Testament saints that were raised with Christ at his resurrection.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints WHICH SLEPT AROSE,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves after HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the HOLY CITY (New Jerusalem) and appeared to many.
These Old Testament saints all died in FAITH; but, was never able to receive the promise of eternal life until Christ resurrection. This is shown in:
Hebrews 11:39 And all these, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise (eternal life).
Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some BETTER THING FOR US (eternal life), that THEY without US should not BE MADE PERFECT (accomplished by the death and resurrection of Christ).
YES, thy along with John and all other saints now IN CHRIST are MINISTERING SPIRITS; to us, HERE and NOW.
Hebrews 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, SENT FORTH to minister FOR THEM WHO SHALL BE HEIRS OF SALVATION.
This is the role of ALL IN CHRIST at the time they are GLORIFIED.
You have a misunderstanding of what "the day of the Lord" is. It is not a joyous occasion, but the opposite. It is a one hour long battle, at the sixth trumpet, second woe. War. It is judgment day for the people of earth, leaders, bringing forth great tribulation. Read what really happens that day: Isaiah 13, Isaiah 21:1-9, Isaiah 24, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 21:1-24, Ezekiel 38:1-17, Jeremiah 50/51, Joel 2:1-11, Revelation 17/18 & Luke 21:20-24 (Israel's fall).
Please tell me you understand what that term means.
( Acts 2:17) And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:...
( Joel 2:28) And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh;...
Why not talk more about the end-times, so the ignorant may become wise? Something big is coming our way, catastrophic. You are bright with the NT, no doubt, but what of the OT? Jesus never shied away from honoring the prophets, and without them, there'd be nothing to fulfill. More importantly, in our times, we are seeing Revelation unfold. Shouldn't you understand the signs and tell the people over affirmations?
Do you know how many Christians believe Jesus is coming next to save us, while not understanding antichrist must yield 42 months of world power, prior to Messiah's appearing? Christians are in a spiritual haze, without compass, no order of semblance or understanding. They know what someone has told them.
I see 99% NT here, some to never know the prophets are more accurate than the morning newspaper. The prophets paint America as Mystery Babylon (new Rome) that gets hit with the "abomination of desolation" at the day of the Lord, sixth trumpet. There's only east vs west powers left: beast & Babylon. Come to terms with America being that evil, backsliding militant government, where in one hour is brought to naught. ( Revelation 18:18-20) God avenges the blood of prophets on her, the same forgotten prophets of today.
The day of the Lord does not mean what most think it does ( Isaiah 13) ( Isaiah 47) ( Revelation 18). For people of earth, Babylon, it is a day of darkness and thick dark clouds. The beast has super weapons ( Ezekiel 21:9-12); devices ( Daniel 11:25) at sixth trumpet, and ( Daniel 11:24) post sixth trumpet. His weapons cause enough damage to knock the earth off its axis ( Isaiah 24:20) wobble, causing less daylight, a global curse. Joel 2:1-11 gives a visceral account of the unstoppable smart missile strike. The sixth trumpet is effectively the destruction of the whole house of Israel ( Isaiah 24), save the one hundred forty four thousand, elect. Between the sixth and seventh trumpets lie mans worst days.
I did not say repentance is a false doctrine, I said repenting of your sins to be saved is a false doctrine. Big difference. The reason we are KJV Only is because of the doctrine it teaches. In the whole Bible, God Himself repented even more than anyone else ( Gen 6:6, Gen 6:7, Ex 32:12-14, Deut 32:36, Judg 2:18, 1 Sam 15:11, 1 Sam 15:35, 2 Sam 24:16; 1 Chron 21:15; Psa 90:13, Psa 106:45, Psa 135:14, Jer 18:8, Jer 26:3, 13, 19, Jer 42:10, Joel 2:13-14; Amos 7:3, 6; Jonah 3:9-10; 4:2) Does that mean that God is a sinner for Him to repent? No! But these modern translations have used the word "God relented..." everywhere that God repented, to justify the idea that you only repent of your sins.
Infact there is no verse that says "Repent your sins"!! A verse that atleast comes close to that is "Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee." in Acts 8:22 and it was about Simon who WAS ALREADY SAVED(in verse 13) and he wanted to offer money to get power to lay hands on others and was rebuked by Peter. Simon was to "turn from what he was doing wrong, to do what is right".
As Christians are we supposed to repent after getting saved? YES! Because we keep sinning even after getting saved. We need to turn back to God and seek His ways rather than our ways. But for Salvation, you only need to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
The only repentance in regard to salvation that is Biblical is when you turn from a false religion, to Christ, because you cant be in Christ and also in another religion. You must repent(turn from the false religion) and then accept Christ, just like the Thessalonians ----> 1 Thessalonians 1:9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
Jesus comes "like a thief" at the sixth trumpet too. 1 Thessalonians 5:2
Joel 2:11
"His" northern army defeats Babylon.
It is God with antichrist's army who lays Jacob's land desolate...
Revelation 16:15 has a magical feel to it as if it were mirroring another time stamp, which it is.
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Acts chapter 2:4 is regarding speaking in tongue and have been listening and learning on youtube-honest news network, Brother Skinner and there are so many lessons on there and it has helped me to grow in the Lord.
There is nothing too hard for God, Mark 5:25 and Isaiah 53:5 regarding healing.
God bless you and may the Lord keep you safe under his wings Psalms 17:8.
Revelation 7
Revelation 11
Revelation 12
Revelation 14
The witnesses are special enough to be the subject of 5 Chapters, and that they're hidden from you until I come along. Just prior to the 6th trumpet ( Revelation 7:1-3), the elect 144,000 are sealed for 3.5 years (42 months) against death. At the end of their testimony, these elect will lay dead in the street for 3.5 days, then taken up in the clouds at the seventh trumpet, second coming of Jesus Christ. Since antichrist is revealed at the start of the sixth trumpet, ( 2 Thessalonians 2:3) the day of the Lord, his 3.5 years expire at the start of the seventh trumpet. The elect die 3.5 days before the seventh trumpet resurrection, while antichrist's time hasn't come yet. This leaves a 3.5 day gap between the tribes being sealed, and the sixth trumpet. For prophesy to be fulfilled, the 144,000 must receive a full 1,260 days of sealed protection.
The tribes are sealed 3.5 days prior to the sixth trumpet, day of the Lord. What will they do in that 3.5 day day window?
( Joel 2:28-31) And it shall come to pass afterward [( Acts 2:17-21) And it shall come to pass in the last days], that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:...
Could this Holy Ghost outpour occur during the 3.5 day "gap" prior to the day of the Lord, so that we, with the elect, should all (flesh) receive the Holy Ghost?
We also have the promise of ( Malachi 4:5) Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: [between Revelation 6:14 & Revelation 6:12?]
Ezekiel 38:18-23
The Lord Jesus Christ standing on Mount Olive:
The seventh trumpet sounds:
( Revelation 16:15) Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. [Jesus comes as a thief at both sixth & seventh trumpets]
vs 18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face
vs 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
( Revelation 11:15) And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. ( Revelation 16:17) ( John 19:30)
( Ezekiel 37:1-14) Resurrection: ...vs 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. vs 11 ...these bones are the whole house of Israel. vs 14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live,..
( Matthew 24:30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
( Revelation 1:7)
( Revelation 19:11-16)
( Revelation 19:19-20)
vs 20 ...Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. ( Zechariah 14:1-4) ....Then shall the LORD go forth...And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives...
( Zechariah 14:12)
God removes the 'northern army':
( Joel 2:20-21)
( Daniel 11:40)
( Jeremiah 6:22-23)
( Jeremiah 50:3)
( Jeremiah 50:41)
vs 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Ezekiel 38: 1-9
Part 1 of 4: Gog's sixth trumpet attack on Israel (house):
vs 3 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
vs 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company withbucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
( 2 Thessalonians 2:6) And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
vs 7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
( Revelation 9:15) And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
vs 8 After many days....in the latter years thou shalt come...against the mountains of Israel (house), and they shall dwell safely all of them...
( Revelation 9:13) And the sixth angel sounded....
vs 9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
God is against Gog, yet Gog is finally brought forth in the latter days to do God's will against Israel, Babylon, and eventually every world government. The first "cloud to cover the land" is reported. Israel (house) is being attacked.
( Jeremiah 5:15) Lo, I will bring a nation upon you from far, O house of Israel, saith the LORD: it is a mighty nation...
( Isaiah 13:5-6) They come from a far country...
( Joel 2:3-11) ...the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness...
( Isaiah 47) vs 9 But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood..
Revelation 14
Revelation 15
Revelation 16
This is the work of CHRIST DEATH on the cross and the work of HIS RESURRECTION and the battle ( Revelation 16:14) we are caused to fight to come to this TRUTH IN CHRIST. Being fulfilled for the last 2000 years as the Fathers draws us to CHRIST and CHRIST gives us HIS UNDERSTANDING to overcome. ASK HIM he will cause you to understand; but it HIS time frame. We have been in the day of the Lord now for 2000 years. He is harvesting HIS FRUITS as they become first ripe (firstfruits) ( Revelation 14:14-20) ( Matthew 20:1-16)
When the sixth seal was opened ( Revelation 6:12) Christ was crucified; prophecy of ( Joel 2:31). The old testament saints and the children of the resurrection were raised with him ( Isaiah 26:19),( Revelation 20:5-6) and ( Matthew 27:52-53). The old testament saints were sealed with the Holy Spirit and the body of Christ ( 1 Timothy 6:16)( Revelation 7:3-8). There was silence in heaven for one half hour ( Revelation 8:1) between the sixth and seventh seal. This is the 45 days between Christ resurrection and pentecost ( Daniel 12:11-12) 1335 days minus 1290 days. No one could enter into the temple (into Christ) until the seven plagues were pour out on Christ (he took God's wrath for us). now we can be ONE IN CHRIST ( Revelation 15:6-8). The four living creatures before the throne ( Revelation 4:6-8) is all creation. God made a covenant with Noah that they would never be destroyed again ( Genesis 9:9-12) man, cattle, beast and fowl. ( Ezekiel 1:10) ( Revelation 4:7). ALL CREATION will worship God. The lake of fire is how Christ cleanses and purifies us.
Hebrews 12:29
Luke 12:49-50
Matthew 3:11-12
Isaiah 9:5
Isaiah 4:3-4
Malachai 3:2-3
Ezekiel 20:46-49
1 Corinthians 3:15
I agree when satan's kicked out of heaven and that initiates the 6th trumpet, 2nd woe, day of the Lord. For reference, here are a few describing the same event from different angles: Isaiah 13, Isaiah 21:1-9, Isaiah 24, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 21:1-24, Ezekiel 38:1-17, Joel 2:1-11, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, Revelation 18. This battle is over in an hour.
Daniel 9:27 I see what you are saying about the language, the dualism. At this point, I need to examine other evidence surrounding this verse, compared to other scriptures to better pin point what is going on.
Right off the bat, it is well known that the day of the Lord sees Jesus coming like a thief with His northern army to lay the land desolate. God states that anti-Christ's army is His army, Joel 2: 10-11
Seeing then that I will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked, therefore shall my sword go forth out of his sheath against all flesh from the south to the north: Ezekiel 21:1-7 "MY sword will go out of HIS sheath".
Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty, Isaiah 13: 6 This characteristic of the strike is synonymous with the man of sin, spoiler at noonday, anti-Christs.
God furbishes a sword and places it in the slayers (anti-Christ's) hand, Ezekiel 21:9-12 Russia has God-like weaponry, God has blessed Russia's scientists. Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty, Ezekiel 21:12
The 70 weeks is a classic Bible mystery. I will study it again. The way I explained it to you makes sense to me considering the 6th trumpet lasts 42 months. I have no strong convictions towards it, and would evolve my mind if I was presented a sound concept. As it stands, it is a side bar to my love of the Lord and His prophets.
I will be around to reprove.
-Mystery Babylon is America that gets destroyed.
-Babylon proper consists of America's allies, to include Israel that gets destroyed in the same hour.
Study the day of the Lord to see that "God's army", Joel 2:11, the northern army (Russia+) that obliterates the southern army ( Dan 11:40) to rule the world. Anti-christ sets up in the temple claiming to be God, unhindered. Where is America post 6th trumpet, and why is the beast the only empire around? The earth doesn't get knocked of its axis battling the RCC, an evil spirit. The whore America is no where to be found, hell has come to greet it at its departure.
America wants to sit a queen forever ( Isaiah 47) against Jesus, and the prophets. This Mystery Babylon, who's king (does Rome have a king?) hath heard the report of them (missiles), and his hands waxed feeble: anguish took hold of him, and pangs as of a woman in travail, Jeremiah 50:43 Reap it America.
There are at least 90 scriptures concerning the day of the Lord strike. They tell the story far better better than I can. Many people are bias because they love America, up until the flame comes.
Where is America to save Israel from desolation, captivity? ( Luke 21:20-24)
They are gone, taken down to hell by the abomination of desolation ( Joel 2:1-11).
Anti-christ rules between the 6-7th trumpets for 42 months.
America & Israel's violent death.
1) There is the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord (named for Jesus), is punishment on a vile world from the Almighty. A day responsible for 1/3rd of humanities demise. Revelation 15: Jesus says "Behold, I come as a thief".......to lay the land desolate.
Those that dwell in heaven despise Mystery Babylon and Babylon proper to death. Joel gives a spectacular account of the missile strike on Babylon (America) Joel 2: 1-11, while on the other side of the world, in the self-same hour, Israel is invaded by the beast army and taken, Luke 21:20-24. Hell from beneath will rise up to greet Babylon at its departure, Isaiah 14:9 The current system will be torn down, and will be replaced with hell on earth.
2) Then there is the 7th trumpet slaughter featuring a transfigured Jesus, with a new name only He knows, Revelation 19:12, who defeats anti-christ's fractured beast army. It is Jesus returning with His army of resurrected saints to take possession of the earth. Revelation 14:20 The blood will be up to the horses bridle (in the valley).
In both trumpets, it is Jesus doling out judgment on an evil world, and in His Godly capacity. America and Israel have been poisoned by satan, enough so for God to commence and fulfill all the words of his servants, the prophets.
At the 5th trumpet, on 9/11, America attacked itself starting their phony war on terror.
At the 6th trumpet the beast Russia & China (iron/clay) desolate Mystery Babylon America within 1 hour.
This is anti-christ's rule of the entire world. Anti-christ destroys America and dismantles her allies. God specifically targets Mystery Babylon America. Who would think such an upstanding Christian nation would get their cup filled to the double?
At the 7th trumpet, Jesus with a new name defeats beast Russia/China. Remind me where America is..was.
Why do you suppose Russia has God-like weaponry that can't be defended against?
Ez 21:9-12. 9 Son of man, prophesy, and say, Thus saith the Lord; Say, A sword, a sword is sharpened, and also furbished:
10 It is sharpened to make a sore slaughter; it is furbished that it may glitter: should we then make mirth? it contemneth the rod of my son, as every tree.
11 And he hath given it to be furbished, that it may be handled: this sword is sharpened, and it is furbished, to give it into the hand of the slayer.
12 Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people, it shall be upon all the princes of Israel: terrors by reason of the sword shall be upon my people: smite therefore upon thy thigh. (Reference to Jacob's time of trouble, wrestling for his stolen birthright)
Do you see how the Lord has furbished a sword and put it in the hand of the slayer, Russia, the 10 toed beast.
Do you see that God intends the strike to be against HIS OWN PEOPLE!!! Against Jacob (US made desolate/Israel invaded 42 months) Where is America to protect it's partner in crime, Israel? Luke 21:20-24. Gone, via Isaiah 47, Joel 2:1-11, Rev 18, the abomination of desolation ushers in Antichrist's rule.
You will not understand if you refuse to entertain new insights. It's a complete wash when everyone of knowledge is stuck to themselves.