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MARK SISLACK

Joel 3:2 I will also GATHER all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people...and JESUS left very clear in Matthew 25:v.31-33, saying 31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations:and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. JESUS also said: In the time of HARVEST I will say to the reapers,Gather ye together first the tares,and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

JESUS as GOD is the Son of man(capital leter)as the prophets also were son of man,and Michael(Miguel) archangel is also a son of man, and he is engaged in war ( Revelation 12) and also in the harvest,inclusive there will be resurrection and great tribulation-Dan.12:v.1-3:

12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince( Joshua 5:13-15)which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of TROUBLE,such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time:and at that time thy people shall be delivered,every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament;and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

1Thes.4:15-17- 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord,that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,with the voice of the archangel-MICHAEL,and with the trump of God:and the dead in CHRIST shall rise first-RESURRECTION:

17 Then we which

Earl Bowman,

Revelation 16:16 is NOT a battle ground; it is the place where the feuding beast army GATHERS for the last battle.

Joel 3:2 I will also GATHER all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat (blood), and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

These two verses support one another, with Joel descriptively delving in deeper past the gathering. This last battle is called "The battle of that great day of God Almighty", AND MOST CERTAINLY NOT "the battle of Armageddon."

S. Spencer,

Lets establish a time frame for, before the millennium age, by the scriptures you referenced.

Revelation 16:16 -just before Christ's return Gog's army is gathered.

Joel 3:2 "I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat...."

Joel 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for (the day of the LORD is near) in the valley of decision.

Ezekiel 38:15 -day of the Lord attack on Israel.

Revelation 20:8 the post millennium battle. How is it that Gog was destroyed by Jesus at His coming, and only a thousand years later, Gog's numbers are as the sand of the sea? I suspect this is a metaphor of an allegory, wrapped in an enigma working here.

Psalm 83:2-8 David's prayer against Israel's oppressors. You have something here, great job. The mention of Edom (Russia/Esau) as the root cause gives merit to this last conflict reference.

Hi Wesley,

I errored when I said I believe the battle in Ezekiel is not the same in Revelation, I meant to say I believe the battle in Ezekiel is not the same in Revelation 20, ( after the Millennium). I believe the battle in Ezekiel is before the Millennium.

However I believe it's what you're saying also,

In Ezekiel it seems they comes from the North ( INTO ISRAEL ) to take spoil.

Ezekiel 38:15. And thou shalt come from "THY PLACE" out of the NORTH parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

( Perhaps Russia and company.)

Also notice who's missing in Ezekiel. Israels. surrounding neighbors,

In Revelation they are gathered from the 4 corners of the earth to Armageddon.

Revelation 16:16. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Revelation 20:8. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in (THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH,) Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: THE NUMBER OF WHOM IS AS THE SAND OF THE SEA.

Joel 3:2. I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

Also notice the intent and the players involved here in

Psalms 83:2-8. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

They have said, Come, and LET US CUT THEM OFF FROM BEING A NATION; THAT THE NAME OF ISRAEL MAY BE NO MORE in remembrance.

For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

The tabernacles of EDOM, and the ISHMAEL IT'S; of MOAB, and the HAGARENES;

GEBAL, and AMMON, and AMALEK; the PHILISTINES with the inhabitants of TYRE;

ASSUR also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

God bless.

Sister Evelyn, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

The battle of Armageddon is a battle as real as any battle; yet this battle isn't with natural weapons of warfare. Study Isaiah 9, it's a prophecy about Christ, the kingdom of God, and the battle we fight to obtain the kingdom (CHRIST IN YOU).

Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood, but this (battle) SHALL BE with BURNING and FUEL OF FIRE.

Isaiah 9:19 ......And THE PEOPLE shall be the FUEL OF THE FIRE (CHRIST)....( Hebrews 12:29)

Revelation 9:18 By these three was a third part of man killed, BY THE FIRE (CHRIST)( Hebrews 12:29) ....

Ezekiel 5:3 Thou shall BURN a third part in the fire (IN CHRIST) ....

Ezekiel 5:4 Then take of them again, and cast them into the midst of the FIRE (IN CHRIST), and burn them in the FIRE (IN CHRIST)....

Isaiah 4:4 When the LORD (FIRE) shall have washed away the filth of the DAUGHTERS OF ZION, and shall have purged the blood of (new) Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT and the SPIRIT OF BURNING.

Zachariah 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the FIRE (CHRIST) .....

Malachi 3:2 Who shall abide the day of his coming (CHRIST IN YOU)? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiners FIRE.....

Matthew 3:11 ....he will baptise you with the HOLY GHOST and FIRE:

Revelation 21:8 But the FEARFUL, and MURDERS ( 1 John 3:15).....and ALL LIARS shall have their part in the lake that burneth with FIRE (JUDGED IN CHRIST)...

Joel 3:14 Multitude, multitudes, in the valley of DECISION: for the DAY OF THE LORD (TODAY) is near in the valley of DECISION.

Hi WH Hamilton. These names you see in Revelation 20:8 go all the way back to the days of Noah. As you know, Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham & Japheth. From Japheth issued sons: Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, & Tiras. And Genesis 20:2-5 tell us that "By these (the sons/descendants of Japheth) were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations."

Then the Word of the LORD came to Ezekiel ( Ezekiel 38:1-3): "Son of man (i.e. Ezekiel), set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him". Even though we can't be certain of the exact locations of where these people actually settled in, we can assume that they went into Europe (northern parts) & the various countries formed from these families. Therefore, this 'person' Gog, is also unknown, even though he is referred to as "the chief prince of Meshech & Tubal". These names certainly don't have any modern day counterparts, though it seems that these countries, maybe a union of them, will figure in that great battle in the Valley of Megiddo (Ezekiel chapters 38 & 39; Revelation 16:14-16; Zechariah 14:1-3; Joel 3:1,2). Some suppose that Russia is referred to here, in which case those nations around them & under her influence & power will come against Israel in that Great Day of God's Judgement.

S Spencer, the Spirit has graced, and is gracing, you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding (of two to make one new man). You quoted Joel 3:2, do you think the war in the valley of Jehoshaphat is the spiritual warfare spoken of by Paul, or are you of the opinion it is natural. The Spirit has led me to believe it spiritual war. I know by previous comments you understand that the elect will judge the world. What has the Spirit revealed to you about this judgement. The Spirit has revealed to me that THE BOOKS ( Revelation 20:12) or symbolic of the ones judging. The Spirit has put a great hunger and thirst in me to study and understand the prophecies. You understand that the Spirit is assembling a nation of priest and judges. The Spirit has revealed to me that this nation of priest will judge and bring to truth all those raised after these elect have been gathered. Isaiah 66:14-24, 1 Timothy 4:10, Psalms 22:27 Paul taught for two years the kingdom of heaven out of the law and prophets. Acts 28:23-31, Luke 16:31 I love reading the comments of those the SPIRIT IS WORKING in to bring ALL to HIS TRUTH.

Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the UNITY of the FAITH, and of THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SON OF GOD, unto a perfect man (of two to make one new man), unto the measure of the STATURE AND FULNESS OF CHRIST.

Like nations we as individuals inside the nation should do our best to walk in God's statutes. Pride and Haughtiness is what destroys nations. There is no geographic land mass that will be taken up before the Great tribulation.

Here's you Holy nation. ( The church!! )

Matthew 21:43. Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

1 Peter 2:9. But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

According to scripture here's where the rest of the world stands.

Joel 3:2. I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

As Christians we should be trying to pull as many people we can out of this battle! Instead of joining in on a vain fight that's been going on in the world since the beginning. That's flesh seeking fleshly things, " ON BOTH SIDES "

2 Timothy 2:4. No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

Be the light you was called to be.

If you use the SEARCH BOX on this website, you will see for yourself what the Bible says about a/any subject. No matter denomination, persuasion: you rely on what the scriptures say.

LORD OF THE HARVEST

"For unsaved loved ones, it takes rock solid faith in Jesus (unmovable), to pray for the Lord of the Harvest to send laborers into the paths of your resistant relatives.

He arranges divine appointments for people to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ with the convicting power of the Holy Spirit.

They, with the Father, CREATED all we see and know. Is there anything too hard for the Lord? In REVELATION there is a scene of Jesus with a sickle, reaping the Harvest.

Get in on this! Pray for these stubborn relatives, loved ones, belligerent teenagers; even the old, the drugged up; the angry at life, everybody! Even perfect strangers.

Christ-like Love should drive you to your knees, often if not every day. Budget one hour to do serious business in your prayer life. Pray for LABORERS TO BE SENT.

This is called, love and obedience to the known will of God. Jesus is the Lord of the Harvest. Sitting at the right hand of God, making intercession for all saints. Ask and receive. Keep your faith fixed on Jesus only.

PRAY TO THE LORD OF THE HARVEST.

" Matthew 9:37

Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;

Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.

Matthew 13:30

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into MY BARN.

Matthew 13:39

The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels."

Joel 3:13

Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.

Mark 4:29

I can't think of a specific verse(s) to what you seek, but certainly there are verses that show that Jerusalem, as the most important city in Israel, will figure now & into the future as God has directed in 2 Chronicles 6:5,6. And we have the following Scriptures as well: Zechariah 14:1-21; Jeremiah 3:17; Isaiah 2:1-4, 9:6,7, 24;23; Joel 3:17; Micah 4:1-5; Luke 1:32,33 showing Jerusalem's importance. With the third Temple to be built there in the future on the Temple Mount (alluded to in Revelation 11:1,2), I think that event will indicate to the world, of Jerusalem's importance & full return to Israel.

How do you arrive at this conclusion, Jimmy? If the 'Jerusalem Jews' are not the real Jews, nor for that matter, those Jews that are living in other parts of Israel & the world, then how can we deduce that the 'negros in America' are the true ones, given that Jacob, along with his ancestors & descendants, were not of African heritage? If anything, one would have to submit to the mixing of the races, removing the purity of many of the Jewish people.

It is time for the truth to come. God is talking about the family of Jacob when he speaks about his people.

remember God change Jacob's name to Israel. The people in Jerusalem are not the real Jew. The people he

speaks of being scather is Negros in America.

Joel 3:13

Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.

Mark 4:29

But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.

Revelation 14:14

And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the SON OF MAN, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

Revelation 14:15

And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

Revelation 14:16

And he that sat on THE CLOUD, thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

Revelation 14:17

And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

Revelation 14:18

And another angel came out from the altar, which had POWER OVER FIRE, and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

Revelation 14:19

And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the WRATH OF GOD.

Time is of the essence. Don't waste anymore of it.

Mishael

God Bless you Carey!! Just like Joel ch.2-28, mentioned dreams and visions, I believe from God.

i had a dream of a young jewish boy on a hill looking over a valley , i believe it was the valley of dicission , the judgement comming on the the harlot church , and the blessing comming on the true church , when he saw the judgement , and the blessing , he stood up and turned around and saw jesus behind him , and he ran to jesus , i believe when the jews see the gentiles in the coveanaut of abraham they will see jesus as the messiah .

2nd Chronicles 7:14 Sums up not only the book of Joel but the entire Bible. God is telling us what we must do. We need to humble ourselves, pray and seek his face, and turn from our wicked way. Then will he hear from heaven and heal the land. This is a powerful scripture. We are truly living in the last days. Everything that happen in the Biblical days are happening today.

Sin Separates



In this chapter we see reasons for judgement as Sin separates people from God. In making application we see why Jesus had to come and why we must be saved. Because sin separates an unholy man from a holy God. How about you? Do you see your need for a Savior? Let us learn from our text today and Word of the Lord to see that sins separates man from God and the reason we must be Saved.

I also think that if America and not other country turns to God and repent that life will get easier and he will heal are brand nation

Did you guys even realize that those GREEKS mentioned in scriptures, were indeed ISRAELITES?
The scripture said there is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW NOR GREEK!! So WHY would it make a comparison between ONLY those TWO nation of people..and didnt even mention the other nations of the world?
Do you even understand WHY there were Israelites LIVING in Greece? Here is why, Joel 3:6 "The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye SOLD UNTO THE GRECIANS, that ye might remove them far from their border."
CLEARLY, THIS is how these Israelites ended up in Greece.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's SEED, and heirs according to the PROMISE."
Promis made to israel

JJ "Let the weak say I AM Strong!!!" - Joel 3:10. Be Strong. Hanging yourself may make "them" sad for awhile, but hanging yourself will NOT make anybody repent. Why should they??? JESUS CHRIST LIVES. JJ, it is you who must repent (THINK AGAIN!!!). Romans 10:13 Teaches You "For whosoever shall call upon the Name of the Lord shall be SAVED." Romans 10:13 does NOT teach you: For whosoever shall call upon the Name of the Lord shall commit suicide. In your reply you called on the Mighty Name of the Lord. Evidently you DID NOT understand what We wrote. Understand this: Revelation 1:18 "I Christ am He that was dead; and BEHOLD! I AM ALIVE FOREVERMORE, Amen; AND I HAVE THE KEYS OF HELL AND DEATH!!!"

the reason why you will still pray for them is that they will have a change of heart to accept jesus christ now we know all will not turn or accept the lord but there are some that will, God has left it up to us to tell people about jesus christ we plant the seed and God will do the rest this is why, and the jugdement is not just America but a lot of the European Nations (Edom) in other words God know who will accept or reject him but we still tell them

2020 and GOD clock is counting down! 10, 9, 8, 7 whether we see or understand it because and again in the 3-chapters above GOD has issued NOTICE of HIS WILL. Personally I see the LIGHT of GOD at the end of the tunnel plus my seat at THE MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB thanks to JEHOVAH /GOD.... Thank GOD for life and especially SALVATION /ETERNAL LIFE through JESUS. John 3:16-21 WILL leads me, mama, daddy, sister, brother, children, to SALVATION if we /they will accept IT.

The USA has had evil and corrupt politicians and leaders throughout history, but it is no more corrupt than most countries. Slavery for example was a global problem and the USA played a much smaller role in it than most countries and most were against it all along which is why the group supporting slavery lost the civil war over it.

Vanessa you are totally correct in all that was stated. The reason the churches of today are not teaching true biblical principle is for many reasons such that mostly relates to financial gain for not telling the truth. If you go to the mega churches you will not hear the pastor preaching that sin will cause you to go to Hell, how to live a life pleasing unto the Lord. How the Lord honors marriage, how we should train up our children in the word and fear of God.

Very true Diesel, and the fake jews in Israel will see that God has loved his people the Tribe of Judah..

Why would we pray for the Lord to have mercy on America when the scripture has told us what is going to happen. Their is repayment for sin and God is coming back to judge this nation for the treatment of his people, however judgement will start in the church first.

The Bible declares that " If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray, seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and heal their land ".

Not only is sex trafficking a problem of today but rape and all manner of illicit sex also occurred during slavery until today.

Thank you Stanjett for seeking to help, I'm sorry for the delay in replying I'm still having problems Commenting it may be just Tech I hope so There is no Joel 3:28 but Joel 2:28 does Confirm what Ruben shared and there is a New Testerment reminder of this Prophecy in Acts 2:17 As we know The Old Testerment will Confirm when needed the New and the New the Old.Thanks again and God Bless you- Annie.

Joel 3:3 is clearly talking about little drag boys like Desmond is amazing and selling little girls that is the human sex trafficking going on at our ports and southern border here in america. This is my second time reading this verse and it just sticks out so much to me. This word is true and always will be. Jesus bless you all