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  • You must be born again __Book of John - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jesus is God. He's part of the Godhead. Romans chapter 1. When he was being tried by the Pharisees, He said: I and my Father are one.

    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us" in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

    Jesus is returning sooner than we all think. Matthew 24 and Luke 21 give us specific signs to watch for. They will increase near the end of days

    Something else...this world we call home is going to pass away. We know that it's going to end and be renewed to what God created in Genesis. Before we polluted it and destroyed it with greed and technology. 2 PETER CHAPTER 3.

    No sense in trying to save it now as Biden dreams he can with boatloads of tax money. God promised never to flood the World again. But it is going to burn up. It already is beginning. See, beloved children, IT IS NOT GLOBAL WARMING. The earth is responding to the WORD OF GOD.

    It's coming apart now: forest fires, worldwide droughts, polluted ground water from human belligerence; continent sized floating islands of garbage in both hemispheres. Earthquakes and Volcanos, floods: with increasing intensity. FAULTS once thought long dead will become active. As the end wars are fought, we'll see space objects hit earth, our cities. Food will be used against us to force us to take THE MARK OF THE BEAST, ANTICHRIST. One world currency will be forced on us next. One world religion. Individuality, no more.

    Take the Mark=DEATH

    Take Jesus=LIFE ETERNAL
  • Mishael - In Reply - 3 years ago
    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    * Romans 1:20*

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

    All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

    Matthew 1:23

    Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. [Jesus]

    {Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

    [ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

    Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to baptize us, Teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first. Learn fully who the Son of Man is (Jesus).
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 11 - 3 years ago
    Elaine,

    The HOLY SPIRIT revealed to me, one day after sometime pondering, that it was: Jesus

    That was the Kingdom representation on earth, that suffered violence

    & the Violent took Him by force, was it also Prophetic to what was about to happen to Him? & other people that belong to the Kingdom of Heaven? Also the Prophets that suffered violence previously.

    John 10:30 -31

    Mark 1:4

    Matthew 4:17

    Luke 17:21

    Luke 17:25

    Mark 14:46

    Mark 14:48 -49

    John 18:19

    Matthew 20:19

    Luke 13:34

    Revelation 6:9 -11
  • Truth in Christ name - In Reply on Numbers 34 - 3 years ago
    John 10:1

    Acts 17:26

    GOD's people, Building walls for Defense & Protection : Ezra, Nehemiah, Haggai,

    References to walls protecting & building: Ester, Psalms
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    It is finished. Part 1.

    Is our atonement forever or once Christ freed us it's up to us to Atone for ourselves?

    When Christ offered himself, He did it all!

    The sacrifice had to be without blemishe.

    Jesus didn't need cleansing from sin.

    Jesus was sinless throughout his life.

    PERFECT AND COMPLETE.

    What's important to Know is the high priest in the levitical priesthood had to offer up sacrifices for himself and then the children of Israel. because it was IMPERFECT. But not Christ.

    Hebrews 7:27. Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

    Jesus was an offering to the Lord for our sins. ONCE! By it we have atonement. He was raised from the dead showing the prophesied sacrifice was accepted.

    HOW ARE WE KEPT.

    As the offering of Christ was complete for remission of sins compared to the Levitical offerings because they had to offered often. Can we remain perfect by law keeping and continuous offerings? NO!

    Hebrews 10:11-12. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, WHICH CAN NEVER TAKE AWAY SINS:

    But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

    1 John 2:1-2. My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

    And he is the propitiation for our sins: Atonement that is (concretely)

    Colossians 3:3. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

    Jude 1:24-25. Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

    To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

    John 10:28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi David.

    Philippians 3:10 . That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

    Ephesians 1:19-20. Speaks of the Resurrecting Power performed to redeem those who believe.

    This is not speaking of Power imputed to us to raise the dead.

    Ephesians 1:18-21. The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

    And what is the exceeding greatness of

    ( HIS POWER ) to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

    WHICH HE WROUGHT IN CHRIST, WHEN HE RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, FAR ABOVE ALL PRINCIPALITY, AND POWER, AND MIGHT, AND DOMINION, AND EVERY NAME THAT IS NAMED, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:

    John 10:18. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I HAVE POWER to lay it down, and I HAVE POWER to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

    I believe in Ephesians Ch 1, But I keep it in its context.



    Ephesians 1:3. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, WHO HATH BLESSED US WITH ALL "SPIRITUAL" BLESSINGS IN HEAVENLY PLACES IN CHRIST:

    This is done by the Power of his resurrection.

    God bless.
  • JUST THE GODHEAD SCRIPTURES by mishael - In Reply - 3 years ago
    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

    All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

    Matthew 1:23

    Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. [Jesus]

    {Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

    [ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3,

    John 16:7-15]

    Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to baptize us, Teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first.

    CAUTION: the phrase 'God the Grandson' is NOT in the KJV Bible.
  • THERE IS NO GOD THE GRANDSON mishael - 3 years ago
    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

    All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

    Matthew 1:23

    Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

    Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

    [ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3,

    John 16: 7-15]

    The word: Grandson is no where in the King James Bible. To teach this to lambs in arms and Gods sheep, is not good.

    Let us all Read, 1 Timothy 6. All of it.

    We all bear the responsibility to teach the truth.
  • John on John 10 - 3 years ago
    Yes I have a question. Do you really respond to questions?

    Thanks.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Kevin: "who specifically is 'God' that raised Christ?"

    RESURRECTION By The Triune GODHEAD!:

    (1) The LORD JESUS Raised HIMSELF From the dead!: "JESUS Answered And Said Unto them, Destroy This Temple, and in three days I Will Raise It Up!...But HE Spake Of The Temple Of HIS BODY!" ( John 2:19, John 2:21 cp John 10:17-18) +

    (2) God, The Father Raised HIS SON From the dead!: "Whom God Hath Raised Up, Having Loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that He should be holden of it!" ( Acts 2:24 cp Acts 2:32, Acts 3:15, Acts 3:26, Acts 10:40, Acts 13:30, Acts 13:34, Acts 17:31; Romans 4:24, Romans 6:4, Romans 8:11; Ephesians 1:20; 1 Corinthians 6:14; 2 Corinthians 4:14; Hebrews 13:20; 1 Peter 1:21) +

    (3) The Holy Spirit Raised The LORD JESUS CHRIST From the dead!: "But if The Spirit Of HIM That Raised Up JESUS From the dead Dwell in you, He That raised up CHRIST from the dead Shall Also Quicken your mortal bodies By HIS Spirit That Dwelleth In you." ( Romans 8:11 cp Acts 2:24, Acts 2:32; 1 Peter 3:18)

    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified!
  • All Scripture is PROFITABLE - In Reply - 3 years ago
    How do you explain the Godhead?

    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

    All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

    Matthew 1:23

    Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

    Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

    [ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

    To REFUSE this knowledge, is to reject the Son of God, and his provision.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 1 Peter 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Kevin.

    Great question, We have the verse you mentioned.

    God

    1 Peter 1:21. Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

    Holyspirit.

    Romans 8:11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

    Jesus.

    John 10:17-18. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

    No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

    God bless.
  • Adam - In Reply on John 20 - 3 years ago
    John 1:14-15: "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me."

    This describes Jesus being the Word.

    John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    This says the Word (Jesus) was God.

    Genesis 1:26 "Let US make" (plural).

    John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."

    Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us".

    God the father is referred to as God. I think most understand this. God also can refer to the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. I think most Bible readers understand this too. Jesus became a man and prayed to God, His Father. While being man he was still God. This does not mean He was his Father.

    So, the human argument ignores scripture and claims Jesus wasn't ever God, because they can't humanly imagine Jesus talking to himself. This is a strawman argument, because no one believes Jesus was praying to himself.

    The human argument against Jesus being part of the God head is akin to the skit of "Who's on first." Imagine an orange consisting of skin, pulp, and seeds like the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as described in 1 JOHN 5:7. Someone claims "the skin isn't part of the orange, because it's different than the seeds. Because it's impossible for the seeds to be the same as the skin, so it must not be an orange! Only one of the 3 can be an orange, so the other parts must not be part of the orange."

    I also think there's an underlying spiritual battle occurring here. One must ask why someone is so motivated to undermine and discredit Jesus's divinity? Who would be behind such a goal? We know the answer. Tread carefully, stay in the Bible, and pray deeply about this before attacking Jesus on a website of Jesus followers.

    Matthew 18:6, Matthew 12:36-37
  • Kevin - In Reply on Romans 13 - 3 years ago
    Acts 5:27-29

    Peter was commanded by the governing authorities, council & high priest, to not preach the gospel. He said we ought to obey God rather than man.

    We ought to have peace in our hearts and Christ says be according to each man according to his faith.

    The head of every man is Christ and it is better to obey Him than man.

    Just because someone or entity tells me something is ok doesn't mean I will eat. Let the Holy Spirit guide you God will always meet your needs.

    It seems from the least to the greatest this issue is causing a great division. The Spirit of Christ does not cause division - This is the spirit of the anti Christ. John 10:10 this is the thief.

    Christ comes to give us life and life more abundantly.

    Trust in God He will direct your steps!
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Rick, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    You are correct, the LORD'S DAY is when you are born again of TRUTH (SPIRIT).

    The day of the Lord (second coming of Christ by the baptism of the Holy Ghost) has been happening to those who the Father DRAWS for two thousand years.

    John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it NOT WRITTEN in your LAW, I said ye are gods?

    John 10:35 If he (THE WORD) called them (the new born) gods, unto whom (the SPIRIT CAME, THE WORD CAME), and the scripture (THE WORD) cannot be broken (BUT FULLFILLED).

    Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery.... Christ in us....

    I AM the resurrection; when you come to truth of this resurrection that you took part IN, of the twain to make ONE (I AM ) new man.

    We become God's glory at the redemption of HIS PURCHASED POSSESSION.

    When his angels (spiritual messengers) come to harvest HIS SEED at the death of this body of flesh.
  • Adam - 3 years ago
    Below are scriptures everyone should read and pray deeply for wisdom and understanding for. Beware of anyone trying to attack, disrespect, or demean Jesus or the name of Jesus. Jesus loves you and died for you. Scripture indicates that Jesus is God. Jesus is not God the father, but God the son. The 3 are all united as 1. There aren't 3 separate gods, there is 1 God with 3 parts as 1 John 5:7 says. We could debunk every one of the deniers' disengenuous arguments, but that would take a lot of space and most are closed off anyway. The same info is also online in countless websites. Satan loves going after any weakness he can find and people keep falling for the same tricks. Christians should simply pray about this and ask the holy spirit to either confirm or convict them on what the truth is. God bless...

    1 John 5:7

    Genesis 1:26

    Genesis 11:6-7

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    John 1:1

    Philippians 2:5

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    1 John 5:7

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 5:8

    1 John 2:22-24

    Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

    Matthew 1:23-25
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Read all of the scriptures and ignore the cultists who stray from God's Word or distort scripture. Even children can understand what these verses mean so I think some adults are just wanting to reinforce what they already want to believe, because it's convenient for other reasons. Is a Christian a real Christ follower if he doesn't believe in the divinity of Christ? That is something we should pray deeply and study deeply about.

    1 John 5:7

    Genesis 1:26

    Genesis 11:6-7

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    John 1:1

    Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    1 John 5:7

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 5:8

    1 John 2:22-24

    Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

    Matthew 1:23-25
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    This sounds like an intellectually disingenuous question. Even children understand the concept of the Godhead or trinity- it's straight from God's word. If you don't understand it, that's fine, have you tried praying for wisdom and understanding. It's possible some of these comments are games a person is playing to try to pull some away from the truth to his cult-like beliefs not from the Bible. That's like doing the work of the devil. Here's some good reading material for the cultists.

    1 John 5:7

    Genesis 1:26

    Genesis 11:6-7

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    John 1:1

    Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    1 John 5:7

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 5:8

    1 John 2:22-24

    Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

    Matthew 1:23-25
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Not sure how you like these verses in the Bible then, because it clearly says Jesus is God. To deny this is to deny God's word:

    1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

    John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."

    John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."

    John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    "the Word was God."

    That's hard to deny that truth. Let's read that again.

    "the Word was God."

    And it sounds like you're saying "the Word wasn't God." The Bible says one thing, you're saying another- the opposite.

    Satan is the father of lies and he is no doubt behind every major deception, especially among Christians. A Christian is a Christ follower. Does that term bother you since you deny the above verses about His diety? This twisting of scripture in order to achieve a certain narrative seems awfully like the CNN version of the Bible.

    Let's continue with more truth in scripture to refute the false assumptions posted here...

    Philippians 2:5 - 2:8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

    John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

    Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"

    John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

    John 20:28

    "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

    1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."
  • Gerald - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Bob, Jesus told Satan He was God when He was being tempted, 3 separate times, time would not permit me to tell you about the sermon on the mount or about the "b attitudes" and I think that's where we as professed Christians have erred in that we gave these "lessons" knick names or "casual titles" of teachings when in fact a lot of what Jesus taught or said was either law or he made an adjustments to that law, because he came to fulfil it Matt 5:17-18 when Jesus said that he in a sense gave himself a death sentence because only one person could do that in the eyes of the Jews and that is God(the Jews only believed in 1 God) another example is found in Matt 5:27-28 every Jew will tell you that it was God who instituted the laws but here we have Jesus making adjustments to them that's why the Jews wanted him killed, another time, John 10:30-31 ask any orthodox Jew who the Father is and they will tell you Jehovah, or Lord, or God yet Jesus just professed to them "I and my Father(which is Spirit) are one. Hoped this helped. God Bless!
  • SCRIPTURES OF WHEN GOD SPOKE - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Verses showing God speaking to Jesus and one of the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove for John the Baptist to witness:

    Matthew 3:17

    And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

    Luke 9:35

    And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

    Mark 1:11

    And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

    Mark 9:7

    And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

    Luke 3:22

    And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, AND a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

    Matthew 17:5

    While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

    Following are verses clearly of the Godhead speaking to each other:

    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

    All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

    Matthew 1:23

    Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, "God with us."

    You may want to note these verses inside your Bible cover.

    Bless your patience, Mishael
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Carleton:

    I BELIEVE that Jesus did MAKE A CHOICE; BUT:

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God (SPIRIT) that WORKETH IN YOU (in Christ, also) Both TO WILL and TO DO of his (the SPIRIT'S) good pleasure.

    John 5:30 I can or MYSELF DO NOTHING: as I hear (the SPIRIT), I judge (by the SPIRIT), and my judgement (by the SPIRIT) is just; because I seek not my own will, but THE WILL of the Father (SPIRIT) which hath SENT ME.

    John 10:18 No man taketh IT (LIFE by SPIRIT) from me, but I lay IT (LIFE by SPIRIT) down of myself (I can of myself do nothing). I have power (by the SPIRIT) to take IT (LIFE by SPIRIT) again. This commandment ( John 15:10) have I received of my Father.

    Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, into thy hands (God; SPIRIT) I commend my (the Father's) SPIRIT ( Ephesians 4:4 there is ONE BODY, and ONE SPIRIT......)( John 17:21)

    Remember the bible is the words of CHRIST (the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit).

    Psalms 56:11 IN GOD (SPIRIT) have I (the SON) put my trust: I (the Son) will not be afraid of what man can do to me.

    Jesus gave his body of flesh for us, so we are able to never see DEATH; because SPIRIT NEVER DIES.

    You MUST be born of the SPIRIT (TRUTH).
  • WHY TRINITY IS NOT IN THE KJV BIBLE - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 14 - 3 years ago
    Trinity is not in the Bible. The Bible says Godhead.

    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

    All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

    Matthew 1:23

    "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

    Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

    [ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

    To REFUSE this knowledge, is to reject the Son of God, and his provision.

    PS. I have these scriptures noted on the inside cover of my Bible.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Ephesians 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Geoffrey.

    Ephesians 1:13-14. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

    Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

    This is a deep saying here!

    First we heard the Gospel of our salvation.

    We believed it.

    And right away we were SEALED with the Holyspirit of promise.

    Which is the EARNEST/"DOWN PAYMENT" of our inheritance.

    UNTIL the redemption of the PURCHASED POSSESSION!!! Unto the praise of his glory.

    Let's look into this, First of all we were sealed with the Holyspirit of promise! "Eternal security "

    We are sealed "WITH" the Holyspirit of promise, Which is the Down-payment of our inheritance. UNTIL the redemption of the PURCHASED possession.

    Jesus prayed in Mathew 26:39-45. three times if there be any other way take this cup from him. "And the Father never relieved him from this burden, So the price of this redemption, and the purchased possession was the highest of value!!

    And It was the blood of Christ that bought us. HE WILL REDEEM HIS PURCHASE. You have been SEALED "Providing that in your heart you truly believed " This puts

    John 10:28. in mind.

    NOTE:

    Acts 20:28. Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath PURCHASED WITH HIS OWN BLOOD.

    Here's What we were redeemed from:



    Galatians 3:13. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

    The law brought death, Paul said when the law came he died. There is nothing to add to what Christ paid to redeem us, If so God would have answered his prayer.

    And "IF" you have you have been SEALED you "ARE" barring fruit because you have been given the Holyspirit.

    God bless.
  • Dianne - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Ronald We are on the same page to me its not a case of my understanding, God wrote what he mean't some day we might believe this stuff. If it doesn't fit like a wet suit on a human so to speak somethings wrong. I walked out of a Church one time because a guy told a story of How God Killed a pastors child to teach Him and His wife a lesson, made me sick. You are not showing me that scripturally and I don't care how you twist it. My Bible says John 10:9 The thief cometh not but to steal, to kill, and to destroy. Verse 10 I am come that they might have life and have it more abundantly. I'll Go With Gods Word God Bless P.S. it's not a case what we think its a case of It Is Written.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on John 1 - 3 years ago
    Brother S Spencer, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    1 John 3:2 (NOT GODS) I assume this is because of my response to Chris.

    I BELIEVE that everyone on this site is here because God has CAUSED them to be here.

    I BELIEVE all on this site are seeking TRUTH and God has CAUSED them to be here for that TRUTH.

    We just SHARE God's Words; it's the SPIRIT that reveals the TRUTH.

    Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and ONE SPIRIT.....

    John 4:24 God is SPIRIT....

    There is only ONE SPIRIT (GOD)

    Christ was the Firstborn of that ONE SPIRIT, being born again of that ONE SPIRIT we are Joint Heirs with Christ.

    Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

    Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the FORM of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

    Mark 12:20 .... The Lord our God, is ONE LORD.

    2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass (mirror) the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same IMAGE from glory to glory, even as by the (ONE) Spirit of the Lord.

    1 Corinthians 6:17 But he that is joined into the Lord is ONE SPIRIT.

    Ephesians 4:4....ONE SPIRIT....

    John 4:24 God is SPIRIT

    Joshua 22:22 The Lord God of gods, the Lord God of gods .....

    John 10:34 Is it not written in you LAW, I said, ye are gods

    Matthew 5:17 ....but to fulfil (the LAW).

    Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.

    Psalms 136:2 O give thanks to the God of gods: for his mercy endureth forever.
  • Chris - In Reply on Psalms 82 - 3 years ago
    Thank you for that explanation brother Earl. I understand Luke 8:5-15 & can even understand your explanation of it. However, in the parable, Jesus uses the 'seed' as an illustration of God's Word being planted into various heart types. It's not used as God being planted/fallen by the wayside/etc. in their hearts. Even though the seed represents God's Word, if we interpret it as God being planted & therefore the Spirit being planted, then we corrupt the meaning & intent of that parable.

    If we then allow that type of interpretation to continue, so many passages, such as Isaiah 41:8, "But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend", might just compel one to think of the "seed of Abraham" to mean 'God's Word/God/a multiplication of gods, instead of simply Abraham's progeny. Even in evangelism, the evangelist shares/scatters the seed over different hearts. He does not scatter God or the Holy Spirit - I believe there must be a distinction, or else the meaning becomes clouded or lost.

    1 Peter 1:23: here again, the Word is that the believers were born again by incorruptible seed (God's Word) as opposed to the corruptible traditions that were first delivered by their fathers (v 18) that could not give a new birth. We might agree with that one but I would disagree with: "When we depart this body of flesh; Spirit ONLY remains, Spirit is GOD, we become (the image of) God." Our spirit never becomes God; our spirits are renewed by the Holy Spirit (born again) & we bear the Image of God, but whether on Earth or depart from it, our spirits don't become God. And this belief then impacts how you understand Psalm 82. As I've already given my understanding of this Psalm in this thread to Samuel, I won't repeat it, except to state that I disagree in toto with your understanding of it; i.e. it is not prophetical at all, rather a warning to the rulers & judges, to which Jesus also inferred in John 10:34.

    I appreciate your contribution Earl.
  • Dianne - In Reply on John 1 - 3 years ago
    Rickie John 1 In the Epistle of 1 John 4:8 Gods word states that God is Love, there fore it is Impossible for anything mean or evil to start out that way by God. Gods created spiritual beings and man in the beginning are given freedom of will because the true God doesn't force people to do things, christians serve out of love there is no manipulation the adversary lies, manipulates and uses the true Gods words to His advantage John 10:9 The thief cometh not but to steel kill and destroy, there's your mean guy, he didn't start out that way.
  • Chris - In Reply on Psalms 82 - 3 years ago
    Hello Samuel. Psalm 82 is a clear condemnation to the unjust judges of Israel & their rulers. Where we see "gods" in verses 1 & 6, in Hebrew it is 'Elohim', otherwise rendered as god, divines, judges & rulers. In this Psalm, 'gods' clearly refers to judges who judged unjustly (vv 2-5) & would therefore hear their Judge (the LORD) pronounce their verdict of death (vv 6,7).

    Jesus, in John 10:34 quotes this Psalm. You might remember the occasion: the Jews took up stones to stone Jesus for blasphemy (i.e. they believed that Jesus was a mere man & not on equal terms with God). Then Jesus responded to them: "Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" As it was in Psalm 82, so the same condemnation is given by Jesus here, to these Jews who came 'upholding the Law & determining whether a man be condemned or not'. As God condemned those unjust judges in the Psalm, so Jesus is telling them that if they are in a position of being His judge now, why should they condemn Him for being the Son of God, One Who did God's Works in the Name & Power of God Almighty? ( John 10:34-38).

    I share this extra bit on John 10 to give the connection with Psalm 82, as Jesus referred to it, that the Elohim spoken of there, applied even now, as these Jewish leaders behaved no differently to those judges in the Psalm, who judged unjustly & not with righteous judgement. And because of their responsible position, judges, society leaders & spiritual leaders who behave wickedly will receive the greater condemnation ( Matthew 23:14,23).
  • Dianne - In Reply on Matthew 7 - 3 years ago
    AG Peterson The person playing with a full deck is Jesus Christ all others are cheating, and the only way to know Him is through Gods Word, He is the True Shepherd, John 10:9+10 The thief cometh not but for to steal and to kill and to destroy I am come that they might have life and have it more abundantly. In Gospel of John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy word, thy word is truth. There's no other source for truth Gods Word makes known Christ. God Bless


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