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  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Ronald,

    Amen! the phrase son of perdition is a title. And in the Bible, that's only given to two people; Judas Iscariot and the antichrist that is yet to come. Jesus chose an evil man (Judas) to fulfill an evil deed. Judas was among the 12 that followed along with the other 11 during Christ's ministry. But Judas was evil the entire time. Judas was the one who was put in charge of the treasury and he was stealing money from it. John 12:6 tells us that he was stealing out of the treasury of the disciples. He was stealing out of the money bag.
  • Rick - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Teresa Isaiah 9:1-7 is foretelling of the spiritual condition of the holy lands at the time of Jesus Christ birth

    and coming ministry the Light of the World and spreading Gods Word. The term spiritual darkness is the condition

    of this world we live in. Now we spread the light of Gods word by the good news being the gospel.

    A lot of the fulfillment concerning Jesus Christ is written in the Gospels examples Mathew 1:22+23,

    Mathew 4:14-16, John 12:38-40. God Bless
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on John 21 - 3 years ago
    Brother Ronald, Revelation is signified. The lake of fire REPRESENTS SOMETHING.

    The first and death death REPRESENTS SOMETHING.

    Since there is a second death, there has to also be a first death.

    The chosen take part in the first death ( John 12:25) while they still have breath in their nostrils.

    In Revelation 9:18 The third are killed (they die for Christ's life as Christ died to give you his life) by fire and brimstone. IN CHRIST (also Revelation 8)

    Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

    Ezekiel 5:2-4 This is the same third described in Revelation 9:18 and Zechariah 13:9

    Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity, He that killeth (teaches truth) with the sword (the word) must also be killed with the sword (the word).

    You are in the lake of fire, being purified and destroyed at the same time.

    God Bless You!
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    There seems to be several times that occurs throughout the Bible, Is it to show us to view each person individually? Several were opposites, yet similar; is that to inspire us to be our best? Luke 7:19-28,

    Interestingly Saul, Saul/Paul, 1 Samuel 15, Acts 13:9, Saul continued to do wickedly, Saul/Paul repentantly changed Acts 8,

    Tamar, Tamar, 2 Samuel 13, 2 Samuel 13:19-20, Genesis 38, 1 Chronicles 2:4, Ruth 4:12,

    Manasseh, Manasseh: Joshua 17:1-18, Genesis 48:14,20, 2 Chronicle 30:11, Psalms 108:8, Jeremiah 15:4, 2 Chronicles 33:1, Isaiah 9:28, 2 Chronicles 33:10,22,

    Lazarus, Lazarus, John 11, John 12:10, John 12:1-3, Luke 16:20, was one rich one poor?

    Etc.
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Amelia,

    To those that say we DO NOT have to be water baptized is to ignore what Jesus tells us in this scripture:

    John 3:5

    "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

    Remember: John 12:48

    "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day."

    I sure don't want to be the one to reject Jesus and receiveth not his words.

    God Bless.
  • Eric L on John 12 - 3 years ago
    we need to be examples to others. Good examples. Chief rulers believed, but could not confess as they will be kicked out of the synagogue. If we mistreat people of a certain type, our children will see it and pass it on to them.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Rick, may CHRIST IN US grace us with his wisdom and his understanding.

    You said: what's interesting when it came to rescuing Lot and his daughters is they were basically grabbed by the angels and dragged out (of Sodom and Gomorrah) ......

    Christ is the ANGEL OF THE LORD, so all other angels would be in his image, both body and mind ( 1 Corinthians 15:49).

    This same thing happens today:

    John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up (on the cross) from the earth, I will draw (drag) ALL MEN to me.

    We go about life; but at God's appointed time we are stopped in our tracks, and God drags us out of BABYLON.

    John 15:16 You have not chosen me, but I have CHOSEN YOU.

    Paul was going about his daily life, killing Christians, God stopped him and dragged him out (Paul did't choose, God chose).

    ALL MEN; a few, in this age, and the rest after this age and the next age, WILL BE DRAGGED out of Babylon TO CHRIST.

    1 Timothy 4:10 ....who is the saviour of ALL MEN (even the ones that don't believe in this age), SPECIALLY those that BELIEVE (in this age).
  • T.Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    John 12:1-6, John 13:1-30, Psalm 41:9 (prophecy), John 17:1-12, hopefully these are also helpful in your study.
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello Walter. We know that the KJV translation appeared in the 17th Century, when many words had a different meaning to what we know today, then we can appreciate the use of the word "corn". Though we presently understand 'corn' to refer to a highly bred grain developed from maize, in those days the English used the general word, 'corn' to represent barley, wheat, rye, oats, etc. In fact, it came from the old Nordic word 'korn', which meant 'grain'.

    So when we see Jesus in Luke 6:1, going through the corn fields, plucking the ears of corn & rubbing them in His Hands, it certainly wasn't the corn of today, but likely a grain, such as barley, that could be rubbed together to separate the chaff from the grain. Or, the example of John 12:24, "Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground & die", we can understand it as a grain of wheat, giving us another use of the word 'corn'.
  • Darla Lynn Hoggard on John 12 - 3 years ago
    How may times did Jesus overthrow the moneychangers' tables? One account occurs so early in John (chp 2) with the added concession where he took time to make a small scourge of cords.
  • Mishael - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 3 - 3 years ago
    Wesley's Notes for 2 Corinthians 4:4

    4:4 The God of this world - What a sublime and horrible description of Satan! He is indeed the god of all that believe not, and works in them with inconceivable energy. Hath blinded - Not only veiled, the eye of their understanding. Illumination - Is properly the reflection or propagation of light, from those who are already enlightened, to others. Who is the image of God - Hence also we may understand how great is the glory of Christ. He that sees the Son, sees the Father in the face of Christ. The Son exactly exhibits the Father to us.

    People's Bible Notes for 2 Corinthians 4:4

    2Corinthians 4:4 The god of this world. See John 12:31,40 Php 3:19. Satan is called the prince of this world, and the god of this world. Hath blinded the minds of them which believe not. By his devices he blinds the eyes of men so they should not see the light of gospel. The image of God. He who would see God may see him in the face of Christ. See Joh 14:9.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi.

    Part 2.

    We take up our cross and we follow the Lord, We don't summon him to join us in battle, We join him in a battle ALREADY WON.

    John 12:31-32. Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

    And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

    Satan, our flesh and the World is three things the Holyspirit supposed to have already separated you from.

    And looking for the right scripture to cast out demons to defeat death is unscriptured!! Christ already defeated the death that a Christian had to worry about, and that's THE 2ND DEATH. We were baptized into that death and resurrection.

    Satan don't want you dead if he can use you, He wants you lost so you can help loose others.

    The Characteristics of a mature Christian is not in his abilities.

    The apostles Peter had to be taught that, He failed miserably in his long suit.

    When the spirit indwelled him he became mighty indeed.

    The Characteristics of a mature Christian is a Christian barring much fruit. and that's supplied by the Holyspirit and we are adequate for service and no need of anything else.

    1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

    God bless.
  • Debbie - In Reply - 3 years ago
    On the kingjamesbibleonline.org, in the search words or phrases box, type prince of this world KJV and several verses will come up. The first one I saw was John 12:31 "Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out."
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Dianne,

    First, Jesus rose before sun rise on the first day of the week (Sunday), on the Feast of First Fruits, one of the feasts they were required to come to Jerusalem. Jesus fulfilled it, being the First Fruits of those who slept. Whatever day Jesus was crucified does not change what He endured and what He did was for us.

    There are five days covered in scripture from the day Jesus rode in to Jerusalem till He was crucified, starting ( Matthew 22:12) ( Mark 11) ( Luke 19) John covers it differently ( John 12:12-50). This will rule out Wednesday because that would put Jesus' riding in on a Sabbath, he could not ride the colt/donkey, it would break the Sabbath law.

    In (John12:1-8) it is six days before Passover, some say He traveled from Jericho so it could not be on a Sabbath but ( Luke 19) He went up to Jerusalem but then says it came to pass, so He could have been close to Bethany before the Sabbath. ( John 12:12-16) the next day Jesus rides into Jerusalem. So, if Jesus rode in on the first day, my choice, what is called Palm Sunday, gives you Thursday or if He rides in on the second day, Monday, gives you Friday.

    Things to consider;

    The third day, or the third day from? Three days and three nights? Days start and end at sunset. What preparation day, the Passover day or Friday? Passover is the 14 th of Nisan, a preparation day, one day separate from the feast 15 th - 21 st, People then and now consider it an eight-day feast and calling it the feast of Passover or the feast of unleavened bread, it is two separate things.



    You see in ( John 13:1) ( Luke 22:1) ( Matthew 26:17) and in ( Mark 14:12) the first day of unleavened bread when they kill the Passover. They kill the Passover on the 14 th same day Jesus was crucified, not during the feast of unleavened bread, that started the 15 th. We have to look close with eyes wide open.

    This is not enough to rightfully cover. I hope this is enough for studying, and not just enough to confuse.

    RLW
  • Dianne - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hey Jesse Dianne one important point individuals miiss either its all Gods Word or its not, 2 Timothy 3:16+17, because in 2 Peter 1:20+21 Holy men spoke what holy spirit told them, i.e. Spirit From true God. To me John 12:44-50, also in psalms it states the Words of the lord are pure words, in Gospel of John Jesus Christ said He taught the disciples His fathers Words which are always true. Love this Stuff.
  • OSEAS - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    EARL

    Have you ever perceived that JESUS came in the fourth Day? By the way, JESUS left very clear saying in the fourth Day when He came: My Father worketh hitherto, and I work- John 5:v.17. Even JESUS is saying and calling Himself as the Greater Light in Genesis 1. When JESUS came in the fourth Day He said: John 12:v.45-46:

    45 - He that seeth me seeth Him that sent me. 46 I am come a light into the WORLD, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.- This event of JESUS coming was the fulfillment of Genesis 1:v.18 :...and GOD divide the light from the darkness:and God saw that it was good.19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth Day.

    The Lesser Light is about the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, he has not light in he himself, his light comes from the Father throught JESUS, the Greater Light (by analogy physicaly the moon receives and reflects the light of the sun), as JESUS said: John 16:7-15:

    7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth;It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

    ...

    12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

    13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

    14 He shall glorify me:for he shall receive of mine,and shall shew it unto you.

    15 All things that the Father hath are mine:therefore said I, that he shall TAKE OF MINE,and shall shew it unto you.

    Materialists confuse the biblical expression Greater Light and twist it when they say it is the Sun. Also they confuse the biblical expression Lesser Light and twist it when they say it is the Moon. Physically the Sun and the Moon have nothing to do with the biblical expression Greater Light and Lesser Light created in the fourth Day - Genesis 1:v.16, except for analogy.

    About stars read Dan.12:v.3
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Amen Lauren.

    There's a lesson to us all,

    The Power and virtue is in Christ distributed by the Spirit.

    We can't manifest it with our intellect or delivering anything what we " Think" is powerful by our delivery or shout something into motion whether it's bringing someone to Christ or running off demons, we're in the flesh when we think more of ourselves than what we ought.

    The only weapon we have is a sword

    Ephesians 6:17. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

    And we use that sword to point to Christ and the cross in the manner Paul did with the Corinthians!

    John 12:32. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

    " There's our strength."

    1 Corinthians 2:4. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, BUT IN DEMONSTRATION OF THE SPIRIT AND OF POWER!:

    Here's another point to take notice in these verses. We know wisdom is made over unto us by way of the cross.

    And we know our redemption is by way of the cross.

    But we sometimes forget that our

    " Imputed Righteousness " and sanctification is by way of the cross.

    1 Corinthians 1:30. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, WHO OF GOD IS MADE UNTO US wisdom, and RIGHTEOUSNESS, and SANCTIFICATION, and redemption:

    1 Corinthians 1:31. That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

    God bless.
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Michael. If you're thinking of Isaiah 45:7, please don't assume that there is any evil within the Godhead to produce evil. We need to understand that verse properly. Just as the LORD "formed the light", so too can He "create darkness". That is, when God chooses to remove the light, darkness remains - darkness is the default. God had to introduce light to dispel darkness ( Genesis 1:1-5); Jesus had to become Light unto men to reveal & dispel their inner darkness ( John 12:46).

    Likewise, God said, "I make peace and create evil". Evil came from the father of evil & sin, who is the devil. And the devil has controlled the world with his wickedness ( Ephesians 2:1-3). But in that overwhelming wickedness, the merciful God has still brought peace to the hearts & lives of many: to His people, Israel, if they obeyed: Psalm 119:165; Proverbs 16:7 and to all others who come to Him through the Cross of His Son ( John 14:27; Ephesians 2:13-18).

    But what happens when God chooses to remove His Peace? And what happens when God chooses to remove His Light? If Peace goes, evil will immediately take over - if Light is removed, darkness instantly prevails. So, God is not the author of evil, but that evil is the result when His Peace is removed; hence, as it is written, "I create evil", or, 'I have allowed evil to take hold (or, make evil happen), because I have removed My Peace'.

    Maybe if Satan was bound soon after him troubling mankind with evil, there would be no need for such verses that would require God to act against evil, but in the Wisdom of God & to make His Power, Love & Salvation known to all, we who have been drawn to & choose His Light & Peace, can always know His Power constantly working in us. But if that Light & Peace fades away in us, we know it's because we have given Satan a foothold in us, bringing us into darkness & sin.
  • Cindy - In Reply on John 12 - 3 years ago
    May God bless you, sir.
  • Walter allen on John 12 - 3 years ago
    The artery to my right kidney has narrowed. I hope you will pray for me. Thank you. Walt.
  • Righteous Judgment and the Legal Process - In Reply on 1 Timothy 3 - 3 years ago
    'PEOPLE', is very large blanket kind of statement. Instead of naming a person, you accuse the entire group. These are just a few of the 5700 scriptures that deal with judgment. Mishael

    John 7:24

    Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

    2 Peter 2:8

    (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds

    2 Thessalonians 1:6

    Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

    Revelation 22:11

    He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

    John 12:47

    And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

    Matthew 7:1

    Judge not, that ye be not judged.

    1 Corinthians 11:31

    For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

    Luke 6:37

    Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

    In your prayers, forgive. Then petition the Lord Jesus to be judge between those who offend your conscience and understanding of scripture. Jesus...is our go-to person in such matters.

    Book of Job 1:

    6 Now there was a day when the sons of God (evil angels) came to present themselves before the LORD (on His Throne), and Satan came also among them.

    7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

    Comment=they show up when they have someone to accuse. Satan=Accuser

    Always take your "legal issue" before the Lords Throne first. He has the best ATTORNEY, JESUS CHRIST.

    1 John 2:1 The Advocate.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Adam, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    I BELIEVE, Christ is the BOOK OF LIFE just as he is the tree of life, the lamb of God, etc. If you are IN CHRIST and CHRIST IN YOU, then at that point you are in the Book of Life and being made ONE IN CHRIST you become a book of life, ALSO.

    Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: the SEED is the WORD of GOD.

    If you take a SEED and plant it; the part that emerges looks nothing like the SEED that was planted.

    But at MATURITY when it is HARVESTED and put in the grain bin; it is EXACTLY like the SEED that was planted. We have the SEED; Christ himself, the WORD planted in us. Now we look nothing like the SEED; but at HARVEST (death of this body) we will be put in the grain bin (Christ body, immortality) and we will be like him; we become SEED to be planted, ALSO.

    Matthew 12:37 For by my WORDS (CHRIST) thou shall be justified, and by my WORDS (CHRIST) thou shall be condemned.

    If you are IN CHRIST and CHRIST IN YOU; you are being judged NOW.

    John 12:48 .... the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him ...

    1 Corinthians 11:31 If we would judge ourselves (by the word), we should not be judged.

    1 Corinthians 11:31 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

    1 Peter 4:17 For the TIME IS COME that judgement must begin at the house of God ...

    Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we...
  • D W L on Mark 8 - 3 years ago
    Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let US (plural) make man in OUR (not my) image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

    John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. (22) And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as WE are one:

    Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

    Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

    (31) And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a SON, and shalt call his name JESUS.

    (32) He shall be great, and shall be called the SON of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

    John 12:26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father (not Joseph) honour. (27) Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.

    Mark 10:40 But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is NOT MINE to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello, I appreciate what you wrote there and agree with all your points except the book of life. It's my opinion that we're not written in the book of life until we're first judged by God. I think God knows all and might even take notes in such a book.

    I think many assume we're 'saved' instantly when we start following Christ. While the Bible says we can have assurance of salvation if we follow Him, but I'm not aware of any verse saying we're instantly saved and will skip judgment and are in a book of life, as if its a guest list for heaven.

    I looked up the 4 verses you posted about 'book of life' and they don't say that all Christians have their names written in the book of life, it doesn't say who or when their names may be written in the book, and doesn't say this comes before judgment day. The Exodus reference suggests that Moses's name was written in a book by God. It doesn't call it the book of life. Moses was also a special person appointed by God. God also replied with this: And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. And the Bible says everyone has sinned.

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    Doesn't say you have salvation now, doesn't say you have it instantly and aren't judged, it says revealed in the last time.

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    This says grace isn't even given to us until the end at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

    Revelation 20:12 - indicates the book of life is used on the day of judgment to review what all have done. Either way all will be judged.

    2 Corinthians 5:10

    Romans 2:16

    John 12:48

    Hebrews 9:27

    Revelation 20:12

    If you have more evidence that says the moment you say respond to an altar call you're instantly in the book of life, or that the moment you decide to follow Jesus you are written in the book of life, please let me know where... Thank you.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 1:1 - 3 years ago
    Matthew 20:28. Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

    Matthew 28:19-20. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    JESUS COMMANDED HIS DISCIPLES TO GO OUT AND SHARE THE GOSPEL, AND THEY DID!

    IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR THEM TO DIE FOR.

    Today it is the least interesting topic of scripture.

    John 3:14-16. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

    That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Romans 10:9. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    Acts 16:30-31. And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

    And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

    1 Corinthians 15:3-4. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

    And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

    John 12:24 . Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.



    John 10:1. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

    Let us not treat the gospel like a history book,

    And Let's understand the necessity of it.

    God bless
  • Brother Dan - In Reply on Revelation 21 - 3 years ago
    Jesus is "The Word" sent from God:

    John 12:49

    "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak."

    John 12:50

    "And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak."

    God Bless
  • Brother Dan - In Reply on Romans 5 - 3 years ago
    Brother Michael,

    When Jesus speaks, he speaks the words from his Father - God.

    John 12:49

    "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak."

    John 12:50

    "And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak."

    Jesus states in John 12:50 "And I know that his commandment is LIFE EVERLASTING."

    To say that the 10 Commandments are no longer valid, is to say that God made a mistake when he created the 10 Commandments!

    I believe that Satan is certainly hard at work here in this world, with so many people that now believe that Gods 10 Commandments are no longer valid.

    God Bless
  • Brother Dan - In Reply on Nehemiah 8 - 3 years ago
    Brother Michael,

    You suggest that the commandments referred to in 1 John 5:2,3 are not the 10 commandments, but some other new commandments of some sort dreamed up by Paul and the apostles.

    Jesus states the following:

    John 14:15

    "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Jesus speaks the words directly from his Father:

    John 12:49

    "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak."

    I read and understand clearly that the commandments referred to in the bible by Jesus and his apostles are the 10 Commandments. To believe otherwise is a stretch of imagination, and not backed up by scripture.

    God Bless
  • Chris - In Reply on Exodus 14 - 3 years ago
    Thank you Steven. To bring that to a personal level: when we are led of God's Spirit, the wrist watch, diary or calendar are both unnecessary & irrelevant. We may need those things for our day-to-day activities & to keep appointments, but in God's economy His Spirit gives us both timing & direction.

    "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God"; the Spirit will always lead us, as God's children, but do we always obey His leading? Can we ever step outside that leading & that Will for us & not grieve the Spirit by doing so? As Jesus always sought His Father's Will in everything ( John 5:30), He fulfilled God's Plan for Him & Israel to the very last minute. How often we wonder whether we're in the centre of God's Will & might even become despondent in our circumstances - rather, we ought to be sure that there's nothing hindering the Spirit's Words & Work in our lives & that our ears are always inclined towards Him, rather than to the voices around us.

    And yes, the Jews ought to have known from the Scriptures that the Messiah had come to them & by the many proofs Jesus had shown them. But that knowledge mixed with human perceptions compelled them to reject Jesus.

    They would have asked, 'How could the Messiah oppose or contradict the very Law He should have rather fully supported & expounded on? A breaker of the Sabbath? Allowing an adulterous woman to live? A forgiver of sins? How could He claim to be God's Son - God is One? Joseph was a descendant from David, & Jesus was not Joseph's son - Mary's lineage wasn't considered - Jesus didn't fulfil Messianic prophecy? Where is the liberator from the Roman oppression; instead we get a humble, self-sacrificing holy Man?'

    As the Word says, "He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them." ( John 12:40; Isaiah 6:10). BUT He became the Saviour to all who would believe.
  • Brother Dan - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    I agree the Sabbath for Christians is Saturday, and always has been.....from the creation of this world.

    Man cannot add or subtract any of the 10 commandments.

    This world is evil, and there are many false religions teaching others to ignore or minimize the commandments of God.

    For those out there that believe they can ignore the 4th commandment, what don't you believe in the verse's below that came straight from Christ's mouth:

    John 14:21

    "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

    Matthew 5:17

    "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

    Matthew 5:18

    "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

    Most Christians are very aware of the above stated verses....but they minimize them, because reverend so and so said this, or that, and I hear all kinds of excuse's that we can ignore this commandment or that commandment, including because Apostle Paul said this or that. Man can read the bible and twist words to mean anything that might suit their agenda.

    We need to believe what Jesus said in the bible, he is speaking the words of "His Father".

    John 12:49

    "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak."

    John 12:50

    "And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak."

    Living life today, while respecting God's commandment's my be an inconvenience for all of us - at times.....but we need to strive to follow Christ, just as Christ followed his Fathers Laws. Are we any better than Christ?

    Happy Sabbath Day!

    God Bless


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