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Is it a sin to have a mixed marriage between black and white People? I believe there are millions of Black Believers in the world also millions of White Believers. So, What is the answer that the question is seeking. I think its maybe. How to get beyond the problem of racial issues. With these two people groups. John 13:34-35. The Lord speaks of a new commandment he is bringing to Love your fellow man. In this chapter Jesus washes the disciples feet. He lets them know that what he was doing they would understand later. I say If they were to have foot washing services in your church as they are here in Jesus day, would you wash a black persons feet or a white persons feet? I believe he was showing how seriously he takes loving our fellowman. He says He is greater that we are and he is setting an example of how far love can go. and Should go. I would really ask myself, Would I? Could I? If asked or pushed how would I feel. How would I behave. Its flippant to say I love everybody and wish well for all which shows my love of all mankind? but is this true?

This verse says, ...we have not separated ourselves from the people of the land, doing according to their abominations. The land was an unclean land filled with the filthiness of the people doing abominations. These verses lists over 8 tribes here and nowhere does it say that these people are all black. Nore is the problem listed as a Racial one. The Issue is one of Sin. If we look at the book of Numbers 12:1, we see, what I believe to be God's opinion of Inter-Racial Marriage.

Here is another scripture I would look at in this matter. Deuteronomy 4:2, Proverbs 30:6 and Revelations 22:19. The Lord himself says in John 13:34-35. The Lord speaks of Love for one another to include people not to exclude a people group for skin color that they had no part in choosing for themselves.

Here, again, Christ encourages His followers to keep their "hearts" from fear and trouble. This repeats the statement Jesus used to start this message ( John 14:1), immediately after predicting Peter's cowardice ( John 13:38). Here, again, scholars suggest that Jesus is distinguishing between being troubled in one's "spirit," meaning pain and unhappiness, as opposed to being troubled in one's "heart," meaning fear and despair. Jesus was said to have a troubled spirit, at times ( John 11:33; 13:21). What He calls for here is not for Christians to be stone-faced and inhuman. Rather, it's to acknowledge the reality of suffering while at the same time trusting in God to make good on His promises.

J. Reid from Canada :),

T. Levis from USA

This is a hugely debated issue within churches 4 sure.

John 13:34-35

Romans 16:17-18

2 Timothy 2:14-15

If there isn't a rapture could it be the cause of a great falling away?

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

Revelation 6:8-11

GOD be with us all who believe, love & trust HIM, to strengthen, hold, protect & keep us faithful

Jude 1:24-25

John 10:28-29

Genesis 5:21-24

2 Kings 2:11

Mark 16:19

Acts 1:6-9

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

Mathew 24:37-46

I hope these are helpful

Luke 22:26

Mark 10:43 -45

Alex comments about y Jesus washed their feet,it was not about their feet it was about their hearts their feet was their hearts spritualy speaking that needed washing a new heart and a new spirit was what they needed . Jesus said he that eats bread with me has lifted up his Heel against me but Judas neva lifted up his heel against Jesus, Judas neva assaulted Jesus with his feet, Judas neva kicked Jesus, Judas assaulted Jesus with his heart the scriptures say that Satan had entered the HEART of Judas to betray him, Its mans hearts that need washing our hearts is satans house thats y Jesus said you are not all clean, there is a bit of our carnal mind that is in rank with satan,Thats y Jesus called Peter satan. But Judas neva assaulted Jesus with his heel, neva did kick JESUS, JUDAS ASSAULTED JESUS WITH HIS HEART, An old friend that EATS bread with me has lifted up his heel against ME, We love to eat at his table ( hearing his parables ) but we assault him with our old evil adamic nature,Thats y he told Peter thou art an offence unto me. Our carnal mind is our foot spritually speaking. We walk with Jesus in the spirit thus our heart is our feet that is made clean by his word.When he washed their feet he said you are made clean by the word i have spoken unto you. Thats y he told Judas it wd have been better if he were neva born which is true of all of us it wd have been better if our old adamic nature had neva been born that y we must be bornagain and is the reason Jesus had to die that we might all get a seed and incorruptible seed the words of the new covenant. When a seed dies it multiplies which is gonna give mankind a new heart and a new spirit a new innerman which is the H.G. The bible scholars got it all wrong the foot washing was not about out literal feet.Our personal hygene does not defile us ( our feet etc ) Jesus said its the things that come from the heart that defiles a man thus we need a new heart and a new spirit NEW AS IN NEW BIRTH THAT NEW EARTH ETC

why did Jesus wash the disciples feet, besides humility, and servanthood. there got to be something dipper than that. don't get me wrong this is very important.

Comments by Alex on y Jesus had to die. One of the facets of the cross is multiplication when a seed dies it multiplies. The blood was the most important, God so loved the world that he gave his only son,But there is a hidden facet to the cross its multiplication, that was the great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven,God himself was so passionate about the Multiplication the Promise that he swore by his veryself. In hebrews it said that by 2 immutables things it was impossible for God to lie there is NO other Promise that God made that he Swore by his very self. God had multiplication of his very self in mind, a posterity of his very self Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the WORD came it made them Gods an Israel of God, spirits as jesus said that which is born of the spirit is SPIRIT this is the H.G. The multiplcation of very God in humanity our new heart and spirit which is the very Kingdom of God in us, there is multiplcation of God in his death thats y jesus is saying smite the shephard and the sheep will be scattered then i will turn my hand to the LITTLE ONES WHICH IS MULTTPLICATION, A LITTLEONE SHALL BE COME A 1000 a STRONG NATION THIS IS THE CHILD THAT IS BORN IN REV 12 THAT IS GONNA RULE ALL NATIONS which is the H.G. our new innerman ,Thats y he refers to the H.G AS THE PROMISE the H.G is the multiplication of Christ. Thats y he always refers to himself as the SON OF MAN, MANKIND IS GONNA BIRTH A BABY CHRIST . When Isaiah saw the Kingdom coming he says unto us a Child is born, YA REMEMBER JESUS said unless you receive the kingdom of God as a lil child. That heavenly birth via his seed th WORD When THE Greeks came to Jerusalem to worshio they wanted to see Jesus but JESUS said unless a seed dies it remains ALONE but if it dies it brings forth much fruit. Had he not died there was have been only 1 Christ thus no way for the world to SEE him but b/c of his death he will be multiplied as the STARS OF HEAVEN giving everybody A BABY CHRIST

I think Jesus is saying we will have the Holy Spirit within our hearts and minds.

He told his disciples to wait in the Upper Room for Pentecost when the Holy Spirit came to them.

The seed is the Word of God. The Bible.

The Holy Spirit. It's only bears fruit if it falls on good ground.

Jesus wants us to bear much fruit. The seed--we have to get that out of the Bible. Who is the Lord of the Harvest?

noun. a stormy wind from the north or northeast that occurs in the Levant, which caused the ship in which St Paul was travelling to be wrecked ( Acts 27:14) any stormy wind.

Rev 1 v 3 Blessed is he that readeth , and they that hear the words of this prophecy , and keep those things which are written therein for the time is at hand .

To him that overcometh

Rev 2 v 7

Rev 2v17

Rev 2 v 26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end , to him will I give power over the nations :

Rev 3 v 5

Rev 3 v 12

Rev 3v 21

A question dear reader are you and I prepared to endure ?

If you are looking for an escape it's not there . But God is faithful to preserve us .

Was Daniel preserved in the lions den , yes he was .

Was Noah preserved from the flood yes he was .

They where obedient to the Lord and found grace in time of need .

Take heart the Lord is faithful to us , but the cost is obedience , disobedience forfeits .

In the seven churches they where instructed by the Lord that knows all what they needed to do . Many of them had to repent and follow his instructions.

He is faithful to forgive us and keep us if we obey his word .

Yes there is a cost to follow the Lord .

*Holy Ghost

In Acts 27:14, it speaks of stormy wind named "Euroclydon". Is this the first named storm in the Bible?

Alex comments on matthew 13 That good seed. What is the good fruit that Jesus warns us about? Jesus said they will know you by your fruits. He tried to keep everything secret and hidden. These things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto babes.Who are these babes and sucklings that Jesus wd mention sometimes ? They are our fruit unto God via that heavenly Seed that Paul mentions in romans 7 you are dead to the law by the body of Christ that you should bemarried to another even to him that was raised from the dead,THAT YOU SHOULD BRING FORTH FRUIT UNTO GOD. Here it is from a heavenly view Rev. 12 she brought forth a man Child that is gona rule all nations, we are the woman and our fruit is a baby Christ the H.G. the NEW BIRTH IS FROM HIS SEED THUS OUR FRUIT IS A BABY CHRIST THE H.G. thats y they call him the bridegroom,he sows a heavenly seed in our hearts.Thats the new covenant I will put my WORDS ( his seeds ) in their hearts and minds the new covenant is nothin less then the parable of the sower and his seed, the 2 nd coming unless ya receive the kingdom of God as a lil child you will in no wise enter there in,I will know them all from the least to the greatest, this is an intimacy that is gona result in a birth, he has to know us, Thats when that good seed is gona be sown in our hearts,being bornagain of an incorruptible seed etc, and here is the kicker, JESUS said to whom the word came ( that good seed ) it made them Gods, Thats y the prophets were saying what manner of love is this that we should be called the sons of God meaning absolute Sons, impling the very kINGDOM of God is gonna be with IN us. God himself as jesus said if any man hears my words ( seeds ) my Father and i will come and take our abode with him ty jesus for being able to understand this great mystery even a sinner like me thus in the end every sinner is gonna be made fruitful. 27 times the PROPHETS saw this world in travail and birth pains .Isaiah said unto US a Child is born.

The Holy Ghost is Holy and was sent by Jesus who is Holy, after he rose from the dead after Calvary, to comfort and teach the repentant believer that looked up, how to be like Jesus while remaining in this world with love in their heart foremost for God who is Holy and also for their neighbor as an example of the Holiness of God present with mankind in His Body of believers. Finally the Gospel Story from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21 is about Love and Holiness and it's presentation as a non- resistant Lamb makes us always, unworthy.

John 13 v 5 Jesus telling them they needed to have their feet washed but they had already been water baptised,Jesus knew that they all had been water baptised but he warns them of another baptism more important then water baptism If i wash thee not you will have no part with me. just think of that he tells his own disciples if i wash thee Not you will have no part with me this speaks volumes of another baptism of the Spirit H.G baptism which was the Word that heavenly seed that wd form Christ in them,abide in me and i in you, this H.G BAPTISM WD form Christ in us as a Child,when he said that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats the H.G. THAT HEAVENLY CHILD that results from his seed the living word, Being bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the Word of God, They don't call him the bridegroom for nothin he has a seed to sow in humanity ya remember he said the field was the world where that good seed will be sown,HE IS NOT GONNA CULL ANYBODY .remember when he fed the multitudes he fed everybody,the good the bad the UGLY THE world GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD ETC. if i belifted up i will draw ALL men unto me,even as Moses lifted up a serpent in the wilderness even so must the son of man be lifted up.Its our hearts that needs to be washed not our feet,Its that H.G BAPTISM that washes our hearts resulting of a birth of Christ in us thats y he always refers to himself as the SON OF MAN,MANKIND NEEDS TO BIRTH CHRIST IN HIS HEART, thats the essence of H.G. baptism,iTS A SEED THAT IS GONA FORM CHRIST IN US VIA A BIRTH,conception comes by hearing and understanding ,Remember when Pharoahs daughter came to wash she found a Child hid in the brushes,when we come to wash via repentence and hearing we will find a child in the Water of the Word.There is a child hid in the waters of salvation which is H.G baptism.She brought forth a man child that will Rule ALL nations which is the H.G.Whosoever receives one such Child in my name receives me the Child is the H.G. th plumline

Paul is telling us to grow up. He told the Corinthians in chapter 3 that they were babes and could not handle meaningful doctrine while they were still carnally minded. Then in chapter 12 their self serving focus on the gifts was actually hindering the intended use of them which is to build up the body of Christ. He then shows them the better, mature way which is charity.

Charity is essentially what Jesus commanded in John 13:34-35, "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."

Also in John 15:12-13, "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." (Which incidentally points to the Cross.)

Ephesians 4:11-16 gives a fuller development of this necessary work of edifying the body, that we henceforth be no more children...

The 4th day is about the government of God upon us.the kingdom/reign of God. We are to fear God who is One and keep His commandments.

God made 2 great lights.

God set the 2 lights in the firmament (the opened hearing ear) of Heaven. Hear, O Israel.

The greater light is the first and greatest commandment to rule the children of the Day who are to love God with all of their heart, soul, mind and strength.

The second, lesser light is like the first. to love our neighbor as ourselves. When we have love for one another, all people in this dark world shall know we are His disciples ( John 13:35). We shall shine as the stars in the darkness of this world. We are to love even our enemies who hate us. In doing so, there is rule over those who are of the night in the darkness of their minds as we let God avenge us ( Romans 12:19) .

Mark 12:29-31 KJV

(29) And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

(30) And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

(31) And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

He made the stars also.as we shall shine as lights/luminaries in the darkness of this world in the doing of His 2 greatest commandments. And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth.

Philippians 2:14-16 KJV

(14) Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

(15) That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

Holding forth the Word/Saying of Life: that God is Light.

(16) Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.

to be continued...

Mary Jane,

The Scriptures - not tradition - puts Jesus crucified on Friday.

Jesus represented a sacrificial lamb in the 1st Jewish Feast, Passover. The timing was as predicted in the Bible. Jesus knew that His time has come.

Ex. 12:6 "And ye shall keep it [lamb] up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening."

John 13:1 "Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that His hour was come that He should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own which were in the world, He loved them unto the end."

1 Cor. 5:7 "For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us."

4. Peter told Jesus he would lay down his life for Him but Jesus told him he would do what three times?

Leave him

Hate him

Die with him

Deny him < Your Choice < Correct Answer

Explanation: Jesus tells Peter that before a cock crows, Peter will deny Him three times.

Reference: John 13:38

CORRECT!

my comment

here we find a interesting statement that peter said he will even die for the LORD he said this sometime before the above scripture Jesus SAID I tell you the truth before the cock Crows you would deny me 3 times but peter insisted that he will even die for him thus peter is not lying according to his knowledge JESUS HRIST did not say he is lying he is just pointing out that he is not ready to do that yet BECAUSE OF FEAR as we know in the bible Peter did love the lord more then all as we see peters journey latter he repents And JESUS strengthened him so as then later JESUS CHRIST gets him ready by many ways finally he says to him today you become a rock so on later on in history books concerning the saints PETER was now ready and actually was Crusified up side down for JESUS CHRIST and the Church because of his love for JESUS CHRIST now that he was strengthen by JESUS CHRIST to actually do what he said before not back then but latter on when he would be ready to do so as he was and did do what he said

John Mark was related to the high priest. ( Acts 4:6) John Mark followed Jesus to the high priest's house and was allowed to go in with Jesus into the high priest's house. ( John 18:15) John Mark was wealthy and had a house in Jerusalem where the disciples met ( Acts 12:12) and where Jesus celebrated Passover and that is why John Mark sat at the head of the table next to Jesus. ( John 13:23) John Mark is given the responsibility to take care of Mary. ( John 19:27)

Remember James and John, the sons of Zebedee, are always mentioned together.

These is no sin, Jesus has taken sin away from the world when He is finished His work and went to the Father after His crucifixion. We have no sin and are given a new commandment in John 13:34. To "love" is our only commandment; the ten commandments are obsolete and do not apply.

Juan, I can't think of any specific Scripture suggesting that we use the apostles or disciples of Jesus as our example. Though, I do know that the apostle Paul often asked his readers of some of his letters to be followers of him & others. Have a look at these: 1 Corinthians 4:16, 11:1; Philippians 3:17; 1 Thessalonians 1:6; 2 Thessalonians 3:7,9. As you know, Paul did not mean that he became some sort of special guru to them so that they had to become his disciples - He simply wanted them to obey the things he had taught them & to follow his (& the other apostle's) example of godly living.

Juan,

The apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 11:1 says be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. The word follower in this verse is the word MIMETAI which means to imitate. It is where we get our English word mime from.

That's the word that Paul's using. The English says followers but it is the word mime, which means to imitate. The word follower doesn't mean to copy. What Paul is saying is, as you see the expression of Christ in my life, let that be the expression of Christ in your life.

Where in the Bible KJV does it say ,,, Use the Apostles and Disciples as an example in you're life ??? Mark ? Luke ? John ? Thank you God Bless ...

Mark10:18 and John 13:13 Jesus confusion and proof of it but I'm certainly not confused about it he also tries to tell you about a Good Samaritan though mark 10:18 he says something different even about His own self

Care to learn true holiness hearken here Isa9:5 Dan 9:7 let me and GOD set you free !!!!!!! From their confusion and Jesus's Mark 10:18 and John 13:13 he says none is good (lies) proof Gen 6:9 . Job 1:1.6.8.12 also note Job1:6 sons of GOD

I don't think it is possible for us to love near as much as Jesus - Not while we live for the flesh. But I think it's Jesus' grace and power in us, God's children, that makes it possible for us to gain that love for each other. I believe God tells us this throughout the New Testament.