We are called by God, Matthew 22:14, Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, and the only way to the Father, John 14:6. Anyone can be baptized but he that believeth and is baptized will be saved, Mark 16:16. This is on us, it is our obedience to the Father, we must truly in our heart believe Jesus is the Son of God the Messiah/Christ, and our only hope of salvation, we cannot do that as a baby. It is not a ritual we can check a box on the way to salvation it is between us and God and it must be done in the name of Jesus that we see in the entire New Testament.
When we are baptized in the name of Jesus, what we see in the Bible, we are submerged in water, we die to sin, and are buried in death with Jesus, and when we are raised from the water we are raised into a new life in Christ. We are justified and our journey then begins with sanctification in our walk in the Holy Spirit.
As to your question you have received several answers, my understanding in the Bible baptism is done only by immersion as the word means. As Jesse said sprinkling did not start until the 1300s and it was for the reason it was so inconvenient. So, this was done just because of convenience's sake, nothing Biblical about it. I agree with Giannis, and we must believe as Jesus said in Mark 16:16.
All we do is to be done in our Lord Jesus's name, Colossians 3:16-17. Many use Matthew 28:19 but we also see in the rest of Scripture that a person who is baptized in Jesus' name is someone who believes in Jesus as Savior, the Messiah, the Son of God who for us died, was buried, and was resurrected we acknowledge this by being baptized in His name, Acts 2:38Acts 8:12Acts 8:16Acts 10:48Acts 19:5Acts 22:16Romans 6:3Galatians 3:27Colossians 2:12Ephesians 4:5.
Paul shows the importance of being baptized in the name of Jesus, Acts 19:1-6. God has placed Jesus and His name above all that is in heaven and earth, Matthew 28:18Philippians 2:9-11. Salvation only comes in His name Acts 4:12Romans 10:13. The name of Jesus is the source of power and authority for healing, miracles, and deliverance, Mark 16:17Luke 10:17Acts 4:7Acts 4:30Acts 16:18.
We are to give thanks in Jesus's name, Ephesians 5:20. Our faith is through Him and in His name, Acts 3:16. We must believe in Jesus, John 3:16John 6:47Acts 16:311 John 3:231 John 5:13. Whatever we ask for we are to ask in His name, John 14:13-14. We are to pray to the Father in His name, James 5:14. Jesus is our priest and the only mediator between God and men, 1 Timothy 2:5.
Luke 6 says in these two verses: 46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
And John 14:23
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Proverbs 8:36 states that those who hate God love death (that is also somewhere in John I believe).
I am going out on a limb here somewhat; but I would say that in the context of verses in John and 1 John that indicate
evidence of saving faith is loving the brethren that would necessitate as with these other passages that first there is in
the individual a hearing of the Word of God. That would be probably what scripture would define as calling someone; or the "general call". The parable of the seed and the sower shows that; with the exception of the one in stony ground that Satan steals immediately; there is a process where BEFORE fruit comes to maturity there is a testing of trials as well as worldly temptations to try to thwart fruit coming to maturity.
At the very least; this proves that some come to faith and immediately begin to grow when they first hear the Gospel and others fall away. It also shows the third possibility such as is illustrated in Matthew 21:29-31 about two sons; one of whom says he won't follow but later does; and vice versa. This could be insight as to those who appear to be averse to conversion but later come to faith; along with a warning of those who only make a VERBAL assent but don't have a heart change as indicated by Romans 10:9. I haven't heard this analysis but think there is some merit to it; as anyone who falls away short of producing good fruit appears NOT to be saved in reality. Could part of being saved be our reaction to the testing of God? This could be a key factor many are missing and these verses show deeds follow words.
More on assurance of salvation or "eternal security"
As stated before space ran out in the last post; Romans 8:16 shows the communication between our spirit and His Spirit who resides within all true believers ( John 14:23; see also Eph. 3:17). For Him to RESIDE in our souls we must be born again.
And being children of God we also are made aware of opportunities which God gives us (i.e. "good works") that will be rewarded in heaven someday that are imperishable ( 1 Cor. 9:25; Matt. 6:19-21). Keep in mind the end of that passage stating that wherever your treasure is; your heart is also (loosely translated).
Again; as I have stated a LOT on this site; God's method is to chastise all those He loves (let the reader find the scriptures). There is no desire for this in the flesh; as it is stated in Hebrews 12:11 to be disciplined in this way. We learn to recognize and appreciate this "pruning" effort ( John 15:2); for without it we would be in danger of producing no fruit and in the end being burned (in everlasting punishment). Our confidence is that in the end we are made into a glorious image; and reflect perfectly His radiance as He truly IS our life. Our reward; therefore comes from Him and in reality is HIS reward. He will; of course have His saints rule and reign with Him as part of our inheritance.
Another point to be made is an effectual witness has to be bold in their testimony and bring the fear of the Lord as well as demonstrate His love. It is therefore as Philippians 1:28 states a "token of their perdition" that we remain steadfast in the confidence of all that He has promised us. Our coming exaltation to rule and reign with Christ isn't brought forth by arrogance on our part; but nonetheless the unnerving thing to those who hear our witness is that we are; indeed already seated in heavenly places. ( Eph. 2:6). Christ also overcame and is seated at the right hand of the Father. God will be magnified whether hell or heaven is our end.
You said: "Our worship of God is directed by our love for Him, Not by Command and rituals.
First of all, I said nothing about Christians having to do rituals.. You are separating the love of God from His commandments as if there is something wrong but God said in John 14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments."
It's very simple: This is how a true believer loves the 10 commandments
1) True believers worship the one true God and will not have any other Gods to worship.
2) A true believer does NOT make images nor bow down to them.
3) True believers do not take the name of the Lord in vain.
4) True believers set aside one day for rest.
5) A true believer always gives respect and shows kindness to all people but especially to parents. 6) A true believer does not murder
7) A true believer does not have sex with anyone in person or in mind except their spouse.
8) A true believer does not steal
9) A true believer does not lie (not matter how big or little a lie is or what color it is, a lie is a lie)
Last in this series let us look what it is to be 'That God may be all in all.' So the superscription refers to the day of regeneration. "Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power."(v.24). St Paul refers to the saying of Jesus and rounding off the Spirit of truth in his ministry. "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him."( John 14:2-23)
Jesus refers to it as 'In that day'. Remember the body aspect of Trinity as a memorial? It covers the heaven the earth and the lower parts. Here we read how all enemies to Christ have been finally disposed off. "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works./And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death./And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."(Re.20:13-15) The sea giving up the dead is fulfillment of this verse, "The Lord sitteth upon the flood; yea, the Lord sitteth King for ever."(Ps.29:10)The term forever refers to the Son. "that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell.in" This is what God 'be all in all' signifies.
Before that to happen we have this verse in the Book of Isaiah to consider. "And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."(Is.2:4)
"And the nations of the which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it."(Re.21:24)
This sounds scholarly and it is fusion of different religion and practices so the Church of Rome adopts the law and religious practises in order to give the papacy the same cult status a deified Caesar. The source for Infallibility of Pope consequently obvious. Scretism created an imposter church. Not to be outsmarted Calvin came up with an idea of limited salvation in the deity of Jesus Christ. It is like his blood work with some and some don't. If this sect spent their in anxiety and under the incubus of hellfire where have they gone wrong? When Jesus says, "Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid."( John 14:27) they don't know which end to believe.
Unity of the Spirit is with regards to life. In his life and in his light we have our being and none in another. "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?/And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?/And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."(2 Co.6:14-16) Hermeneutics similarly sounds scholarly but for the infidels who would rather eat the offal than the solid meat swear by literalism. Satan is winning there.
In today's society, many do not even believe witchcraft is real, but it is very real and dangerous. Scripture tells us not to deal with it or be around anyone who does. I do not know what you are battling but have faith that Jesus Christ can break any bondage to witchcraft. Trust in the faith of Jesus and immerse yourself in Scripture. James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
You can trust and hold fast without any doubt because Jesus said this, John 14:13-14 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me:
9 Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
John 10:30- I and my Father are One.
But,
no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him. Matthew 11:27
Luke 10:22 - no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal Him.
43When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44Then it says, 'I will return to the house I left.' On its return, it finds the house vacant, swept clean, and put in order. 45Then it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and dwell there; and the final plight of that man is worse than the first. So will it be with this wicked generation."
This passage would seem to infer that a person could have an evil spirit removed somehow; but without the Holy Spirit taking up residence post salvation. ( John 14:23). We are reminded of the sons of Sceva who had demons come out of someone they were trying to exorcize and rend them. ( Acts 19:14-16). We also could conceivably be reminded of those Jesus cast demons from; since some may not have been truly saved after that. We see evidence of that with the case of 1 leper that came back to praise Him while the others went away. ( Luke 17:17-18). We see warnings also of Christ saying sin no more lest something worse happen to you ( John 5:14). In that case it would probably be death as he had been paralyzed for decades apparently due to some sin.
We can think of the condition in the Synagogue where Jesus cast out a demon early on ( John 4:33 and following verses); and consider how the religious and self righteous piety of the Pharisees caused them to have this condemnation in particular.
A more sobering thought is many "ministries" today who are seemingly obsessed with casting out demons (in some cases it is proven the same person is involved over and over as a likely paid participant for crowd appeal). I personally have a big problem with one particular teacher who often baptizes people (and says is necessary for salvation) and demons come out.
We can hardly call someone in that condition in a sound mind ready to make such a commitment to the Body of Christ as Baptism signifies.
"TheLordsaid unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." (v.1)
Re.Matt.22:43-44. This is a Messianic prophecy looking to the day od regeneration. "And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."(Matt.19:28) The writer to the Hebrews has touched upon the significance of 'my right hand', "when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high." Ministry of Jesus did not end with the earth; nor with the lower parts. At present "and upholding all things by the word of his power," tells us truth shall judge the present day wickedness' and the word of his power will not let off the wicked . His grace also is equally at work for those who are true worshipers.
Jesus revealed what his ministry consisted of, "I go to prepare a place for you./And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." ( John 14:2-3)
"Thy footstool",
Compare with the Isaiah quote, "Thus saith theLord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool." (Is.66:1a) The day decreed for his Son covers also the day of regeneration.
"TheLordshall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies." (v.2)
The rod of iron serves two purposes. It is for smashing the nations. The heathen in particular. "Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. (Ps.2:9) secondly it is for "and he shall rule them with a rod of iron."(Re.19:15)
'In the midst of enemies' refer to the nations on the earth formerly designated as the outer darkness,
In many ways I agree with you that God is heaven (eternal life) and being in His presence is what we will be so happy to abide in in the life to come. Heaven as a place would not be desirable to believers if God is not preset there.
I also remember that Jesus told the apostles that He was going to prepare a place for them in His "Father's house".( John 14:2)
So, if Jesus was speaking literally, then there is a place called heaven. If He was speaking figuratively, then He is most likely indicating that this place is where ever Jesus is because in Him all the Godhead dwells bodily.
It is hard to truly imagine what heaven as a place would be like, but we can readily imagine what heaven as being in God's Presence may be like in some ways. The Bible tells us so much about who God is, so we can be assured that being "in" Christ for all eternity will be so very satisfying and wonderful.
Good to hear from you. I hope we can talk more often. God bless you this day. My first grandchild will be born sometime in the next 10 days or so. I am excited and feel honored to have been asked to attend and be my daughter-in-law's support person along with my son. Please pray for everything to go well with the labor and delivery. Thanks
Malachi 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?
Mark 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
Romans 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
1 John 2:22-23 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Acts 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Luke 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
I come to you in prayer for my friend Gary who is fighting for custody of his twins I ask you to grant Gary custody of children I ask this according to John 14:14 in Jesus Christ Name I pray Amen
Primary themes and primary applications of scripture (continued).
Psalm 119:97 is just one of many verses in this Psalm talking about loving God's law and commandments. We have looked in the last posting about 2 Timothy 3:16 as to the practical truths of the Bible in instruction; but of course without love as Paul stated we are nothing but a clanging cymbal as part off 1 Corinthians 13:1 mentions; and this idea continues throughout what many call the "love" chapter which is often given as a gift to married couples with a door hanging type motif so that hopefully they can realize what they are called to in the Lord. The sentiment of John 14:15 marries the concept of love and obedience together. We can't have God's love (agape) without the truth; and if we attempt to follow the truth without love; we run the risk of what happened to the Ephesian church as described in Revelation in the beginning of chapter 2.
I won't make this study a detailed description of basic codes of conduct for a new believer which are of course needed for a young Christian to study in regard especially to the Epistles of Paul. Maturity in the faith is certainly bolstered by these necessary means; but is not by any means exclusively determined by these instructional verses. We can; for instance find meaning in the book of Esther and Ruth where God isn't even mentioned or just with a passing glance. The faith of both of these women is clearly seen through example. The Song of Solomon; probably the least read book in scripture seems to be an oddity in many ways and of course should be read by mature audiences. Nonetheless the theme of loyalty to the one someone is espoused to is something we can learn from; along with some possible hidden prophetic meanings in, for instance chapter 5; verse 7. In many ways; however it is best not to overspiritualize this one particular book; in attempting to make any direct correlation between eros and agape love for Christ in the sentiment
"The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men."
Easton's Bible gives us "The heaven of heavens," or "the third heaven" ( Deuteronomy 10:14; 1 Kings 8:27; Psalms 115:16; 148:4; 2 Corinthians 12:2). Simplest way to make sense of these three heavens is to use the same yardstick St John used in measuring the holy city of God. Angel aspect of the Son is with regards to the everlasting Gospel. So Jesus tells his disciples, "I go to prepare a place, "I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."( John 14:6). I am the way specifies exactly is Person specific. The risen Christ dies no more. No meaningful discussion we can have without abiding in him. Second aspect is the man component. The Word become flesh means whosoever abides in the Son loves God with "And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might./And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart."(De.6:5-6).
"According to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel" New Jerusalem" is scaled so shall the three heavens since all things in heaven on the earth and below are by him consist. "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:/And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."(Col.1:15-19)
Brightness of his glory(The throne of God and of the Lamb), Gospel as a body (the church) and symbolism of fire water and rock are three heavens. In short Spirit, Body and Soul the Trinity underpin the earth. God gave the earth to the children of men in the Son. God blessed them in his Son. " And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness."(Ge.1:26-28) Old Testament and New Testament is a infelicitous way of defining the everlasting Covenant.
Jesus was truly a "friend of sinners" ( Luke 7:34) but was referred to as "Master" in both Colossians 3:24 as to who we serve and those addressing Him ( Luke 18:18). There are parables as well where the word is used as a thinly veiled analogy of Christ returning to reward or punish His subjects (last half of Matthew 25 for one). It is intersting that in the example of Christ being a friend of sinners (and tax collectors) that it was used in a derogatory way by the Pharisees as to those He kept company with. The passage in Luke 18:18 continues in the following verses to show someone whose heart truly wasn't entirely committed in this passage either to put his money where his mouth was; literally. The same can be said of the parable of the servants in the vineyard; there were unfaithful servants there who would suffer the consequences; and others who would reap the benefits of reward for being a TRUE servant of their master. John 14:15 comes to mind once again where love is shown by obedience on our part.
Naturally; when we live in a world where obedience to parents; commitment to others after making a marriage vow and a covenant agreement is established and overall lack of respect for authority has caused the spirit of the age to affect many who either deliberately want to excuse their conduct or don't know any better. To put it best perhaps here is a lengthy quote from C.S. Lewis in "Mere Christianity"
"Give me all of you!!! I don't want so much of your time, so much of your talents and money, and so much of your work. I want YOU!!! ALL OF YOU!! I have not come to torment or frustrate the natural man or woman, but to KILL IT! No half measures will do. I don't want to only prune a branch here and a branch there; rather I want the whole tree out! Hand it over to me, the whole outfit, all of your desires, all of your wants and wishes and dreams. Turn them ALL over to me... (out of space).
18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19In a little while the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you are in Me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him."
The question of the difference between the indwelling Spirit today permanently taking residence (as seen a bit further into this chapter in verse 23) and the time Jesus spoke these words to His Disciples in some sense doesn't seem to matter. He knew all those who would continue to follow and those (in particular Judas Iscariot) who would betray Him. I am firmly convinced that only those predestined to come to Christ will; and that repentance is given as a gift of God for those called and chosen.
That being said; we don't really understand these doctrines before our salvation experience so those doctrines don't make any more sense than the fact that God is in fact represented with Christ even though He appeared in the flesh of man. Therefore these definitions come to mind regarding saving faith.
Transaction: Our debts being paid make us no longer bound to this world; but bondservants of Christ. His ransom as our
Redeemer means that we are His chosen vessel to be used for His purposes. In political terms; it doesn't mean for us that we are in a Democracy; free to choose when we wish to follow our Master or turn back to follow the opposing Party (that is Satan).
Interaction: A free gift is offered; but not necessarily received or utilized by the potential recipient. We can do nothing to earn or deserve it; but we are responsible to follow the guidelines which the Spirit makes clear in the hearts of the truly faithful. This would; arguably mean that as Lord of the harvest fruit in us is demanded.
Since the essential nature of the Godhead is changeless, the Father would eternally be the Father of the Son, and the Son would eternally be the Son of the Father. Since John, under inspiration says that the Son is God, then it would be a conflict to say that the Son had a beginning of His begetting because that would indicate a change in the internal nature of the Godhead.
Next, I want to cite a few instances in John's Gospel where the Jewish leaders took up stones to kill Him or worse because in their first century thinking, they accused Jesus of making Himself God or equal to YHWH. These citations are John chapter 5:16-47; (for healing on the Sabbath and making Himself equal with God, vs. 18) 8:59 (where Jesus us the name YHWH to say that he existed before Abraham); 10:18 (Jesus says that He has the power to resurrect Himself) 10:20 (the Jews said that He had a devil and try to arrest Him) vs, 30 where Jesus states "I and the Father are one." and 31-39 where the Jews wanted to stone Him for blasphemy because He said He was the Son of God, thus making Himself to be God.
In all of these citations, Jesus knew already before He spoke how the Jews would understand His words, and He spoke them very deliberately, knowing they would accuse Him of saying He is God. He did not restate his words in ways such as, "No, no, I did not mean to say that I am God or equal to Him, you have misunderstood." No, He let his words stand affirming that their understanding of Him stating his deity was correct. If their understanding of His words were wrong, then He would have corrected their misunderstanding, but He didn't, and thus they wanted to stone him for blasphemy.
Next, I wish to go to the Last Supper Discourse in John. Right away, in john 14:1 Jesus tells His disciples to believe in God (His eternal Father) and also to believe in Him (the eternal divine Son). I say this because He never once retracted His claims to Deity. See part 5
The name of our Savior, Jesus that means "YHWH saves" Matthew 1:21-23 and Luke 1:31-32 the angel Gabriel told Mary to name the Son of God so that it may be fulfilled that was spoken of the LORD by the prophet Isaiah 7:14. they shall call His name Immanuel meaning God with us, nothing has changed. Jesus comes from the Hebrew word Yehoshua same as Jehoshua or Joshua, the Greek form is Iesous English is before the letter J it was Iesus now Jesus, it is just transliteration or translation from one language to another.
There were many back then with that name but only this Jesus is referred to as Jesus Christ or Christ Jesus, in Hebrew Yehoshua Moshiach, who is the Son of God, Jesus's identity, and His mission that His Father sent Him to do. The name Immanuel means with us is God, the presence of God in His Son that we see in the New Testament not His personal name. Like Jesus told Philip in John 14:7-11.
This is my understanding maybe others will have other comments, pray, and study, truth comes only from the Spirit of truth.
This upper room has been prepared for a special occasion. Who had it prepared for Jesus? In the Gospel of St John Jesus assured his disciples, "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."( John 14:3). "For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God." (He.3:4) As with the colt for his Son to go to Jerusalem God had provided all thing for life and godliness for his Son. God had appointed himas the heir of all things.
When Jesus said of foxes having holes and the birds their nests he was stating his own case as a man. In the world each one is so particular to flaunt their fashionable address God chose the upper room, and the Spirit has not given as one except that whatever God chose was in his Power and glory.
Jesus assured "My Father and I are one" and wherever he walked and abode signaled his Father to testify. "Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."(1:11). Psalmist refers to this relationship of the Father. "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there." (Ps.139:8)
The Last supper enacted in that upper room evokes for us the same betrayal when Satan betrayed the trust of the Most High. For this reason Jesus refersto Judas as the son of perdition. "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." ( John 17:12)
We have several instances where what are presented before us is a kangaroo word in terms of the eternal Word. Thus the alabaster box is a kangaroo word for the woman who prepared the body of the Son for his burial. Ezekiel thus ingesting the roll that God gave him becomes a double for the Son. "Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel."(Ez.3:1)
"And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits."
Jesus ordained them for a purpose. " And he goeth up into a mountain, and calleth unto him whom he would: and they came unto him./And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach"(3:13-14).Having introduced the disciples the Spirit gives us two symbols which gives an altogether different emphasis to the discipleship.
We shall first examine it before we take up the topic. St Matthew presents the doctrine of his Father before a mountain while St Mark informs us that Jesus first went up into a mountain and calls whom he would. It does not mean the twelve disciples were among them but the emblem of Zion (Is.28:16; Matt.5:1) is the witness for the discipleship. Jesus Christ the rock of ages embodies the doctrine of his Father; so are the twelve disciples. By choosing Judas Iscariot as one of the twelve he was accountable to the Word as he as the word become flesh his testimony also was on the line. Testimony of Jesus: the spirit of prophesy.(Re.19:10) . Mark gives us the list and ends with," And Judas Iscariot, which also betrayed him: and they went into an house." (3:19) The house is not specified but the house serves as a proper context for Jesus and all his twelve disciples. St Mark sets the entire gospel about Jesus as that of the Son so the house referred here is the Father's house." In my Father's house are many mansions:.:( John 14:2) Of whose house are we? Is simplicity in Christ or honor of Herod what do we hunger for?
When it was time he sent them as the key verse says, two by two and gave them authority just as his Father had given him.
Jesus had no place to lay his head. He sent his disciples similarly to depend solely on His Father in heaven. Faith made them feel at home and the peace of which was not as the world gives. This was Christ's testimon.y
"And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;"(v.7)
This number is constant and it broadly signifies the gospel. When God sent forth his word it signaled the good news of fellowship where all are invited in his Son. So 3x4 makes up the command number. For this reason when Judas Iscariot left the original twelve it necessitated choosing one to fell into the breach. "Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles." Besides those who were assembled in the number were multiples of 12."12x10 clues us in what bonded them, - it was the word, the peace which the Lord had left them with, -or the presence of the Lord, the word is set down by the command number (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)"Ac.1:26,15; John 14:27).
This gospel outreach was in the divine Will when he appointed a day for the Son with the emblem, the slain Lamb before the foundation of the world(Re.13:8) Pre-eminence of Jesus Christ was established in heaven and on the earth and the lower parts. So the Four and twenty elders (8x3) are as memorial before the throne of God. This significance we see in the multiplying of loaves in vv.37-43. "And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes." These baskets are memorial of his ministry.
In the preceding chapter Mark prepares us with the number 12. The woman with the issue of blood and the daughter of Jairus are both tagged by the number 12. Jesus commanded the word "Talitha cumi" and was in keeping with the divine Will.(Ps.107:20; 5:41) "And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years," Her faith completed the divine Will and the healing. What connected her with Christ while she was among a throng? His virtue went out to establish that he was Christ. How a believer can deny the truth? "Thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." (Ps.45:7)
Scripture is clear Jesus had no sin, Hebrews 4:151 Peter 2:221 John 3:5Romans 5:12-15.
Do you believe that the Father and the Son are one as Jesus said in Jn. 17 or that He and the Father are "in" one another and if they see Jesus, they see the Father?
Both, Jesus said I and my Father are one John 10:30 and in other places, one means unity. Jesus was one with the Father not because Jesus was God but because He was filled with the Spirit and God dwelt in him, John 14:10, as we see God was in Christ 2 Corinthians 5:19
God dwelt in Jesus and empowered Him by His Spirit that gave Jesus the power and authority like Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered to Jesus of His Father, Jesus did not have it, all was given to Him. God was manifest in Jesus, John 12:49John 14:10. This is why Jesus said if you have seen me, you have seen the Father, John 14:9.
Jesus in His prayer asked the Father that we may be one, as He and His Father are one through the words of the disciples, John 17:20-23. God and Jesus will dwell in us and we in them, 1 John 4:13-161 John 3:23-24.
How is it that Jesus AND the Father send the Holy Spirit if there is only one person as God?
Jesus said He would pray to the Father to give another comforter, John 14:16, we see in John 14:26 the Father will send in Jesus's name. In John 15:26 Jesus said I will send but this is from the Father and the Spirit of truth that proceedeth from the Father. This is not a person it is the Spirit of God.
Please don't take this wrong, in the Trinity there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons: The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, each Person is fully God, coequal, coeternal, and consubstantial. I'm sorry my understanding, is Scripture does not support that, Scripture is clear the Father is above all.
Thank you, GiGi, I hope this is what you wanted I am not the best at this.
His authority came from his deity. "I and my Father are one" As his Son the voice from heaven claimed his humanity so "Trinity" was not merely a doctrine but validated the everlasting covenant. " And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased./And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness." (vv.11-12) The Spirit the third office in Trinity led him as the Lucan Gospel says. He was among men but his deity was never in jeopardy. So His power and glory is his as he makes clear in his prayer, "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."( John 17:5)
As the Word become flesh his presence among them was a sign. "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."( John 14:10)
He works so all the healing we have in vv.21-45 we shall fill the dots all the way to the throne of God. Thus the healing validated the blessings mentioned in Ge.1:28. "God blessed them" and it was through his Son.
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. Here is another, "And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak."
"And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes.
Necessary doctrines: Fruit vs non fruit bearing activities
When we get into practical things; for instance the last few chapters of Romans after the lengthy dissertation on the depravity of man (no one is rightous); and the "Gospel of Grace" related to covenants and the like; there could be a tendancy to discount our behaviors as being as important as these doctrinal truths. The fact is they are both important and we can't live bearing good fruit without following the truth and showing obedient love for Christ with our lifestyles. We only need to look at Luke 6:46 to see the importance of doing what He says; and John 14:15 which shows that if we love Him we will obey His commandments. The basic command to love one another is seen in both the Gospel of John and first John as a necessary mandate for a true brother in Christ. This should be a basic litmus test to draw out those who are Judas Iscariot's in our midst. These issues make things difficult when we follow such commandments as 1 Corinthians 5:11 where we are told not to even eat with one who is living in immorality or other sins as a LIFESTYLE or continuing pattern who calls themself a "Christian". This should eliminate many prosperity Gospel folks who are "swindlers"; and those practicing idolatry where a false Christ is worshipped at least in the midst of a given true fellowship of saints. There are times when we can witness to others who are in error if we are not worshipping where they are if we can have some control on the meeting situation. In short; producing good fruit is mentioned in numerous scriptures and thus only occurs with a true believer as the Parable of the Sower indicates. This is essential doctrine which is evidenced by those who are drowning in perdition due to the cares of this world overtaking them ( 1 Timothy 6:9; see also Matthew 13:23). The attitude toward authority covered in Romans 13:1-2; we are called whenever it doesn't contradict scripture to obey authorities.
We are called by God, Matthew 22:14, Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, and the only way to the Father, John 14:6. Anyone can be baptized but he that believeth and is baptized will be saved, Mark 16:16. This is on us, it is our obedience to the Father, we must truly in our heart believe Jesus is the Son of God the Messiah/Christ, and our only hope of salvation, we cannot do that as a baby. It is not a ritual we can check a box on the way to salvation it is between us and God and it must be done in the name of Jesus that we see in the entire New Testament.
When we are baptized in the name of Jesus, what we see in the Bible, we are submerged in water, we die to sin, and are buried in death with Jesus, and when we are raised from the water we are raised into a new life in Christ. We are justified and our journey then begins with sanctification in our walk in the Holy Spirit.
God bless,
RLW
As to your question you have received several answers, my understanding in the Bible baptism is done only by immersion as the word means. As Jesse said sprinkling did not start until the 1300s and it was for the reason it was so inconvenient. So, this was done just because of convenience's sake, nothing Biblical about it. I agree with Giannis, and we must believe as Jesus said in Mark 16:16.
All we do is to be done in our Lord Jesus's name, Colossians 3:16-17. Many use Matthew 28:19 but we also see in the rest of Scripture that a person who is baptized in Jesus' name is someone who believes in Jesus as Savior, the Messiah, the Son of God who for us died, was buried, and was resurrected we acknowledge this by being baptized in His name, Acts 2:38 Acts 8:12 Acts 8:16 Acts 10:48 Acts 19:5 Acts 22:16 Romans 6:3 Galatians 3:27 Colossians 2:12 Ephesians 4:5.
Paul shows the importance of being baptized in the name of Jesus, Acts 19:1-6. God has placed Jesus and His name above all that is in heaven and earth, Matthew 28:18 Philippians 2:9-11. Salvation only comes in His name Acts 4:12 Romans 10:13. The name of Jesus is the source of power and authority for healing, miracles, and deliverance, Mark 16:17 Luke 10:17 Acts 4:7 Acts 4:30 Acts 16:18.
We are to give thanks in Jesus's name, Ephesians 5:20. Our faith is through Him and in His name, Acts 3:16. We must believe in Jesus, John 3:16 John 6:47 Acts 16:31 1 John 3:23 1 John 5:13. Whatever we ask for we are to ask in His name, John 14:13-14. We are to pray to the Father in His name, James 5:14. Jesus is our priest and the only mediator between God and men, 1 Timothy 2:5.
God bless,
RLW
47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
And John 14:23
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Proverbs 8:36 states that those who hate God love death (that is also somewhere in John I believe).
I am going out on a limb here somewhat; but I would say that in the context of verses in John and 1 John that indicate
evidence of saving faith is loving the brethren that would necessitate as with these other passages that first there is in
the individual a hearing of the Word of God. That would be probably what scripture would define as calling someone; or the "general call". The parable of the seed and the sower shows that; with the exception of the one in stony ground that Satan steals immediately; there is a process where BEFORE fruit comes to maturity there is a testing of trials as well as worldly temptations to try to thwart fruit coming to maturity.
At the very least; this proves that some come to faith and immediately begin to grow when they first hear the Gospel and others fall away. It also shows the third possibility such as is illustrated in Matthew 21:29-31 about two sons; one of whom says he won't follow but later does; and vice versa. This could be insight as to those who appear to be averse to conversion but later come to faith; along with a warning of those who only make a VERBAL assent but don't have a heart change as indicated by Romans 10:9. I haven't heard this analysis but think there is some merit to it; as anyone who falls away short of producing good fruit appears NOT to be saved in reality. Could part of being saved be our reaction to the testing of God? This could be a key factor many are missing and these verses show deeds follow words.
As stated before space ran out in the last post; Romans 8:16 shows the communication between our spirit and His Spirit who resides within all true believers ( John 14:23; see also Eph. 3:17). For Him to RESIDE in our souls we must be born again.
And being children of God we also are made aware of opportunities which God gives us (i.e. "good works") that will be rewarded in heaven someday that are imperishable ( 1 Cor. 9:25; Matt. 6:19-21). Keep in mind the end of that passage stating that wherever your treasure is; your heart is also (loosely translated).
Again; as I have stated a LOT on this site; God's method is to chastise all those He loves (let the reader find the scriptures). There is no desire for this in the flesh; as it is stated in Hebrews 12:11 to be disciplined in this way. We learn to recognize and appreciate this "pruning" effort ( John 15:2); for without it we would be in danger of producing no fruit and in the end being burned (in everlasting punishment). Our confidence is that in the end we are made into a glorious image; and reflect perfectly His radiance as He truly IS our life. Our reward; therefore comes from Him and in reality is HIS reward. He will; of course have His saints rule and reign with Him as part of our inheritance.
Another point to be made is an effectual witness has to be bold in their testimony and bring the fear of the Lord as well as demonstrate His love. It is therefore as Philippians 1:28 states a "token of their perdition" that we remain steadfast in the confidence of all that He has promised us. Our coming exaltation to rule and reign with Christ isn't brought forth by arrogance on our part; but nonetheless the unnerving thing to those who hear our witness is that we are; indeed already seated in heavenly places. ( Eph. 2:6). Christ also overcame and is seated at the right hand of the Father. God will be magnified whether hell or heaven is our end.
You said: "Our worship of God is directed by our love for Him, Not by Command and rituals.
First of all, I said nothing about Christians having to do rituals.. You are separating the love of God from His commandments as if there is something wrong but God said in John 14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments."
It's very simple: This is how a true believer loves the 10 commandments
1) True believers worship the one true God and will not have any other Gods to worship.
2) A true believer does NOT make images nor bow down to them.
3) True believers do not take the name of the Lord in vain.
4) True believers set aside one day for rest.
5) A true believer always gives respect and shows kindness to all people but especially to parents. 6) A true believer does not murder
7) A true believer does not have sex with anyone in person or in mind except their spouse.
8) A true believer does not steal
9) A true believer does not lie (not matter how big or little a lie is or what color it is, a lie is a lie)
10) A true believer is not jealous. God Bless :)
Last in this series let us look what it is to be 'That God may be all in all.' So the superscription refers to the day of regeneration. "Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power."(v.24). St Paul refers to the saying of Jesus and rounding off the Spirit of truth in his ministry. "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him."( John 14:2-23)
Jesus refers to it as 'In that day'. Remember the body aspect of Trinity as a memorial? It covers the heaven the earth and the lower parts. Here we read how all enemies to Christ have been finally disposed off. "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works./And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death./And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."(Re.20:13-15) The sea giving up the dead is fulfillment of this verse, "The Lord sitteth upon the flood; yea, the Lord sitteth King for ever."(Ps.29:10)The term forever refers to the Son. "that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell.in" This is what God 'be all in all' signifies.
Before that to happen we have this verse in the Book of Isaiah to consider. "And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."(Is.2:4)
"And the nations of the which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it."(Re.21:24)
This sounds scholarly and it is fusion of different religion and practices so the Church of Rome adopts the law and religious practises in order to give the papacy the same cult status a deified Caesar. The source for Infallibility of Pope consequently obvious. Scretism created an imposter church. Not to be outsmarted Calvin came up with an idea of limited salvation in the deity of Jesus Christ. It is like his blood work with some and some don't. If this sect spent their in anxiety and under the incubus of hellfire where have they gone wrong? When Jesus says, "Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid."( John 14:27) they don't know which end to believe.
Unity of the Spirit is with regards to life. In his life and in his light we have our being and none in another. "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?/And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?/And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."(2 Co.6:14-16) Hermeneutics similarly sounds scholarly but for the infidels who would rather eat the offal than the solid meat swear by literalism. Satan is winning there.
In today's society, many do not even believe witchcraft is real, but it is very real and dangerous. Scripture tells us not to deal with it or be around anyone who does. I do not know what you are battling but have faith that Jesus Christ can break any bondage to witchcraft. Trust in the faith of Jesus and immerse yourself in Scripture. James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
You can trust and hold fast without any doubt because Jesus said this, John 14:13-14 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
God bless,
RLW
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me:
9 Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
John 10:30- I and my Father are One.
But,
no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him. Matthew 11:27
Luke 10:22 - no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal Him.
43When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44Then it says, 'I will return to the house I left.' On its return, it finds the house vacant, swept clean, and put in order. 45Then it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and dwell there; and the final plight of that man is worse than the first. So will it be with this wicked generation."
This passage would seem to infer that a person could have an evil spirit removed somehow; but without the Holy Spirit taking up residence post salvation. ( John 14:23). We are reminded of the sons of Sceva who had demons come out of someone they were trying to exorcize and rend them. ( Acts 19:14-16). We also could conceivably be reminded of those Jesus cast demons from; since some may not have been truly saved after that. We see evidence of that with the case of 1 leper that came back to praise Him while the others went away. ( Luke 17:17-18). We see warnings also of Christ saying sin no more lest something worse happen to you ( John 5:14). In that case it would probably be death as he had been paralyzed for decades apparently due to some sin.
We can think of the condition in the Synagogue where Jesus cast out a demon early on ( John 4:33 and following verses); and consider how the religious and self righteous piety of the Pharisees caused them to have this condemnation in particular.
A more sobering thought is many "ministries" today who are seemingly obsessed with casting out demons (in some cases it is proven the same person is involved over and over as a likely paid participant for crowd appeal). I personally have a big problem with one particular teacher who often baptizes people (and says is necessary for salvation) and demons come out.
We can hardly call someone in that condition in a sound mind ready to make such a commitment to the Body of Christ as Baptism signifies.
"TheLordsaid unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." (v.1)
Re.Matt.22:43-44. This is a Messianic prophecy looking to the day od regeneration. "And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."(Matt.19:28) The writer to the Hebrews has touched upon the significance of 'my right hand', "when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high." Ministry of Jesus did not end with the earth; nor with the lower parts. At present "and upholding all things by the word of his power," tells us truth shall judge the present day wickedness' and the word of his power will not let off the wicked . His grace also is equally at work for those who are true worshipers.
Jesus revealed what his ministry consisted of, "I go to prepare a place for you./And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." ( John 14:2-3)
"Thy footstool",
Compare with the Isaiah quote, "Thus saith theLord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool." (Is.66:1a) The day decreed for his Son covers also the day of regeneration.
"TheLordshall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies." (v.2)
The rod of iron serves two purposes. It is for smashing the nations. The heathen in particular. "Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. (Ps.2:9) secondly it is for "and he shall rule them with a rod of iron."(Re.19:15)
'In the midst of enemies' refer to the nations on the earth formerly designated as the outer darkness,
In many ways I agree with you that God is heaven (eternal life) and being in His presence is what we will be so happy to abide in in the life to come. Heaven as a place would not be desirable to believers if God is not preset there.
I also remember that Jesus told the apostles that He was going to prepare a place for them in His "Father's house".( John 14:2)
So, if Jesus was speaking literally, then there is a place called heaven. If He was speaking figuratively, then He is most likely indicating that this place is where ever Jesus is because in Him all the Godhead dwells bodily.
It is hard to truly imagine what heaven as a place would be like, but we can readily imagine what heaven as being in God's Presence may be like in some ways. The Bible tells us so much about who God is, so we can be assured that being "in" Christ for all eternity will be so very satisfying and wonderful.
Good to hear from you. I hope we can talk more often. God bless you this day. My first grandchild will be born sometime in the next 10 days or so. I am excited and feel honored to have been asked to attend and be my daughter-in-law's support person along with my son. Please pray for everything to go well with the labor and delivery. Thanks
Malachi 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?
Mark 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
Romans 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
1 John 2:22-23 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Acts 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Luke 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
God bless,
RLW
For Your meditation,
John 14:6 kjv,
John 1:12-14,
1 Timothy 2:5,
1 Corinthians 15:1-4,
John 1:9,
Ephesians 1:7,
Romans 10:4,
John 8:32.
Psalm 119:97 is just one of many verses in this Psalm talking about loving God's law and commandments. We have looked in the last posting about 2 Timothy 3:16 as to the practical truths of the Bible in instruction; but of course without love as Paul stated we are nothing but a clanging cymbal as part off 1 Corinthians 13:1 mentions; and this idea continues throughout what many call the "love" chapter which is often given as a gift to married couples with a door hanging type motif so that hopefully they can realize what they are called to in the Lord. The sentiment of John 14:15 marries the concept of love and obedience together. We can't have God's love (agape) without the truth; and if we attempt to follow the truth without love; we run the risk of what happened to the Ephesian church as described in Revelation in the beginning of chapter 2.
I won't make this study a detailed description of basic codes of conduct for a new believer which are of course needed for a young Christian to study in regard especially to the Epistles of Paul. Maturity in the faith is certainly bolstered by these necessary means; but is not by any means exclusively determined by these instructional verses. We can; for instance find meaning in the book of Esther and Ruth where God isn't even mentioned or just with a passing glance. The faith of both of these women is clearly seen through example. The Song of Solomon; probably the least read book in scripture seems to be an oddity in many ways and of course should be read by mature audiences. Nonetheless the theme of loyalty to the one someone is espoused to is something we can learn from; along with some possible hidden prophetic meanings in, for instance chapter 5; verse 7. In many ways; however it is best not to overspiritualize this one particular book; in attempting to make any direct correlation between eros and agape love for Christ in the sentiment
"The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men."
Easton's Bible gives us "The heaven of heavens," or "the third heaven" ( Deuteronomy 10:14; 1 Kings 8:27; Psalms 115:16; 148:4; 2 Corinthians 12:2). Simplest way to make sense of these three heavens is to use the same yardstick St John used in measuring the holy city of God. Angel aspect of the Son is with regards to the everlasting Gospel. So Jesus tells his disciples, "I go to prepare a place, "I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."( John 14:6). I am the way specifies exactly is Person specific. The risen Christ dies no more. No meaningful discussion we can have without abiding in him. Second aspect is the man component. The Word become flesh means whosoever abides in the Son loves God with "And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might./And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart."(De.6:5-6).
"According to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel" New Jerusalem" is scaled so shall the three heavens since all things in heaven on the earth and below are by him consist. "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:/And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."(Col.1:15-19)
Brightness of his glory(The throne of God and of the Lamb), Gospel as a body (the church) and symbolism of fire water and rock are three heavens. In short Spirit, Body and Soul the Trinity underpin the earth. God gave the earth to the children of men in the Son. God blessed them in his Son. " And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness."(Ge.1:26-28) Old Testament and New Testament is a infelicitous way of defining the everlasting Covenant.
Jesus was truly a "friend of sinners" ( Luke 7:34) but was referred to as "Master" in both Colossians 3:24 as to who we serve and those addressing Him ( Luke 18:18). There are parables as well where the word is used as a thinly veiled analogy of Christ returning to reward or punish His subjects (last half of Matthew 25 for one). It is intersting that in the example of Christ being a friend of sinners (and tax collectors) that it was used in a derogatory way by the Pharisees as to those He kept company with. The passage in Luke 18:18 continues in the following verses to show someone whose heart truly wasn't entirely committed in this passage either to put his money where his mouth was; literally. The same can be said of the parable of the servants in the vineyard; there were unfaithful servants there who would suffer the consequences; and others who would reap the benefits of reward for being a TRUE servant of their master. John 14:15 comes to mind once again where love is shown by obedience on our part.
Naturally; when we live in a world where obedience to parents; commitment to others after making a marriage vow and a covenant agreement is established and overall lack of respect for authority has caused the spirit of the age to affect many who either deliberately want to excuse their conduct or don't know any better. To put it best perhaps here is a lengthy quote from C.S. Lewis in "Mere Christianity"
"Give me all of you!!! I don't want so much of your time, so much of your talents and money, and so much of your work. I want YOU!!! ALL OF YOU!! I have not come to torment or frustrate the natural man or woman, but to KILL IT! No half measures will do. I don't want to only prune a branch here and a branch there; rather I want the whole tree out! Hand it over to me, the whole outfit, all of your desires, all of your wants and wishes and dreams. Turn them ALL over to me... (out of space).
Let us do the same.
18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19In a little while the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you are in Me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him."
The question of the difference between the indwelling Spirit today permanently taking residence (as seen a bit further into this chapter in verse 23) and the time Jesus spoke these words to His Disciples in some sense doesn't seem to matter. He knew all those who would continue to follow and those (in particular Judas Iscariot) who would betray Him. I am firmly convinced that only those predestined to come to Christ will; and that repentance is given as a gift of God for those called and chosen.
That being said; we don't really understand these doctrines before our salvation experience so those doctrines don't make any more sense than the fact that God is in fact represented with Christ even though He appeared in the flesh of man. Therefore these definitions come to mind regarding saving faith.
Transaction: Our debts being paid make us no longer bound to this world; but bondservants of Christ. His ransom as our
Redeemer means that we are His chosen vessel to be used for His purposes. In political terms; it doesn't mean for us that we are in a Democracy; free to choose when we wish to follow our Master or turn back to follow the opposing Party (that is Satan).
Interaction: A free gift is offered; but not necessarily received or utilized by the potential recipient. We can do nothing to earn or deserve it; but we are responsible to follow the guidelines which the Spirit makes clear in the hearts of the truly faithful. This would; arguably mean that as Lord of the harvest fruit in us is demanded.
Part 4.
Since the essential nature of the Godhead is changeless, the Father would eternally be the Father of the Son, and the Son would eternally be the Son of the Father. Since John, under inspiration says that the Son is God, then it would be a conflict to say that the Son had a beginning of His begetting because that would indicate a change in the internal nature of the Godhead.
Next, I want to cite a few instances in John's Gospel where the Jewish leaders took up stones to kill Him or worse because in their first century thinking, they accused Jesus of making Himself God or equal to YHWH. These citations are John chapter 5:16-47; (for healing on the Sabbath and making Himself equal with God, vs. 18) 8:59 (where Jesus us the name YHWH to say that he existed before Abraham); 10:18 (Jesus says that He has the power to resurrect Himself) 10:20 (the Jews said that He had a devil and try to arrest Him) vs, 30 where Jesus states "I and the Father are one." and 31-39 where the Jews wanted to stone Him for blasphemy because He said He was the Son of God, thus making Himself to be God.
In all of these citations, Jesus knew already before He spoke how the Jews would understand His words, and He spoke them very deliberately, knowing they would accuse Him of saying He is God. He did not restate his words in ways such as, "No, no, I did not mean to say that I am God or equal to Him, you have misunderstood." No, He let his words stand affirming that their understanding of Him stating his deity was correct. If their understanding of His words were wrong, then He would have corrected their misunderstanding, but He didn't, and thus they wanted to stone him for blasphemy.
Next, I wish to go to the Last Supper Discourse in John. Right away, in john 14:1 Jesus tells His disciples to believe in God (His eternal Father) and also to believe in Him (the eternal divine Son). I say this because He never once retracted His claims to Deity. See part 5
I'm sorry to hear about you and your family struggles, You're certainly not alone there.
We can have peace in this world but "the world struggles" and we are in it.
We are to find joy in the Lord.
Peace and Joy will come by faith, not initiated by us and not from anything in this world. John 14:27.
If I may ask, When you say you are doing the work of God, can you give some details on that?
Blessings.
Great post!
I just want to add that Jesus said this:
"Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world." ( 1Jn. 4:4; John 14: 17,20, 23)
And those who know Jesus will have peace, because He has ovecome the world Jn. 16:33)
We can have confidence in God. he will not fail us. We are united to Christ and will be in Him forever!
The name of our Savior, Jesus that means "YHWH saves" Matthew 1:21-23 and Luke 1:31-32 the angel Gabriel told Mary to name the Son of God so that it may be fulfilled that was spoken of the LORD by the prophet Isaiah 7:14. they shall call His name Immanuel meaning God with us, nothing has changed. Jesus comes from the Hebrew word Yehoshua same as Jehoshua or Joshua, the Greek form is Iesous English is before the letter J it was Iesus now Jesus, it is just transliteration or translation from one language to another.
There were many back then with that name but only this Jesus is referred to as Jesus Christ or Christ Jesus, in Hebrew Yehoshua Moshiach, who is the Son of God, Jesus's identity, and His mission that His Father sent Him to do. The name Immanuel means with us is God, the presence of God in His Son that we see in the New Testament not His personal name. Like Jesus told Philip in John 14:7-11.
This is my understanding maybe others will have other comments, pray, and study, truth comes only from the Spirit of truth.
God bless,
RLW
This upper room has been prepared for a special occasion. Who had it prepared for Jesus? In the Gospel of St John Jesus assured his disciples, "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."( John 14:3). "For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God." (He.3:4) As with the colt for his Son to go to Jerusalem God had provided all thing for life and godliness for his Son. God had appointed himas the heir of all things.
When Jesus said of foxes having holes and the birds their nests he was stating his own case as a man. In the world each one is so particular to flaunt their fashionable address God chose the upper room, and the Spirit has not given as one except that whatever God chose was in his Power and glory.
Jesus assured "My Father and I are one" and wherever he walked and abode signaled his Father to testify. "Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."(1:11). Psalmist refers to this relationship of the Father. "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there." (Ps.139:8)
The Last supper enacted in that upper room evokes for us the same betrayal when Satan betrayed the trust of the Most High. For this reason Jesus refersto Judas as the son of perdition. "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." ( John 17:12)
We have several instances where what are presented before us is a kangaroo word in terms of the eternal Word. Thus the alabaster box is a kangaroo word for the woman who prepared the body of the Son for his burial. Ezekiel thus ingesting the roll that God gave him becomes a double for the Son. "Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel."(Ez.3:1)
I was approved about a month ago. I enjoy reading the comments on this site. I am learning more and more about the Almighty God:Jehoveh:
Exodus 6:3
Jesus: Alpha and Omega
Revelations 1:8
Holy Spirit: The Comforter
John 14:26
I was converted at 9 years old.
Although On my journey, I haven't always got it right, I've been coming this way a long time. I am 85 years old now.
I thank God for every day.
My children suggested I find something to keep me busy.
I thank all of you for sharing the word with me. I love Jesus. Amen!
"And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits."
Jesus ordained them for a purpose. " And he goeth up into a mountain, and calleth unto him whom he would: and they came unto him./And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach"(3:13-14).Having introduced the disciples the Spirit gives us two symbols which gives an altogether different emphasis to the discipleship.
We shall first examine it before we take up the topic. St Matthew presents the doctrine of his Father before a mountain while St Mark informs us that Jesus first went up into a mountain and calls whom he would. It does not mean the twelve disciples were among them but the emblem of Zion (Is.28:16; Matt.5:1) is the witness for the discipleship. Jesus Christ the rock of ages embodies the doctrine of his Father; so are the twelve disciples. By choosing Judas Iscariot as one of the twelve he was accountable to the Word as he as the word become flesh his testimony also was on the line. Testimony of Jesus: the spirit of prophesy.(Re.19:10) . Mark gives us the list and ends with," And Judas Iscariot, which also betrayed him: and they went into an house." (3:19) The house is not specified but the house serves as a proper context for Jesus and all his twelve disciples. St Mark sets the entire gospel about Jesus as that of the Son so the house referred here is the Father's house." In my Father's house are many mansions:.:( John 14:2) Of whose house are we? Is simplicity in Christ or honor of Herod what do we hunger for?
When it was time he sent them as the key verse says, two by two and gave them authority just as his Father had given him.
Jesus had no place to lay his head. He sent his disciples similarly to depend solely on His Father in heaven. Faith made them feel at home and the peace of which was not as the world gives. This was Christ's testimon.y
"And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;"(v.7)
This number is constant and it broadly signifies the gospel. When God sent forth his word it signaled the good news of fellowship where all are invited in his Son. So 3x4 makes up the command number. For this reason when Judas Iscariot left the original twelve it necessitated choosing one to fell into the breach. "Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles." Besides those who were assembled in the number were multiples of 12."12x10 clues us in what bonded them, - it was the word, the peace which the Lord had left them with, -or the presence of the Lord, the word is set down by the command number (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)"Ac.1:26,15; John 14:27).
This gospel outreach was in the divine Will when he appointed a day for the Son with the emblem, the slain Lamb before the foundation of the world(Re.13:8) Pre-eminence of Jesus Christ was established in heaven and on the earth and the lower parts. So the Four and twenty elders (8x3) are as memorial before the throne of God. This significance we see in the multiplying of loaves in vv.37-43. "And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes." These baskets are memorial of his ministry.
In the preceding chapter Mark prepares us with the number 12. The woman with the issue of blood and the daughter of Jairus are both tagged by the number 12. Jesus commanded the word "Talitha cumi" and was in keeping with the divine Will.(Ps.107:20; 5:41) "And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years," Her faith completed the divine Will and the healing. What connected her with Christ while she was among a throng? His virtue went out to establish that he was Christ. How a believer can deny the truth? "Thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." (Ps.45:7)
Part 5 and last Trinity discussion,
Do you believe that Jesus lived a sinless life?
Scripture is clear Jesus had no sin, Hebrews 4:15 1 Peter 2:22 1 John 3:5 Romans 5:12-15.
Do you believe that the Father and the Son are one as Jesus said in Jn. 17 or that He and the Father are "in" one another and if they see Jesus, they see the Father?
Both, Jesus said I and my Father are one John 10:30 and in other places, one means unity. Jesus was one with the Father not because Jesus was God but because He was filled with the Spirit and God dwelt in him, John 14:10, as we see God was in Christ 2 Corinthians 5:19
God dwelt in Jesus and empowered Him by His Spirit that gave Jesus the power and authority like Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered to Jesus of His Father, Jesus did not have it, all was given to Him. God was manifest in Jesus, John 12:49 John 14:10. This is why Jesus said if you have seen me, you have seen the Father, John 14:9.
Jesus in His prayer asked the Father that we may be one, as He and His Father are one through the words of the disciples, John 17:20-23. God and Jesus will dwell in us and we in them, 1 John 4:13-16 1 John 3:23-24.
How is it that Jesus AND the Father send the Holy Spirit if there is only one person as God?
Jesus said He would pray to the Father to give another comforter, John 14:16, we see in John 14:26 the Father will send in Jesus's name. In John 15:26 Jesus said I will send but this is from the Father and the Spirit of truth that proceedeth from the Father. This is not a person it is the Spirit of God.
Please don't take this wrong, in the Trinity there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons: The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, each Person is fully God, coequal, coeternal, and consubstantial. I'm sorry my understanding, is Scripture does not support that, Scripture is clear the Father is above all.
Thank you, GiGi, I hope this is what you wanted I am not the best at this.
God bless,
RLW
His authority came from his deity. "I and my Father are one" As his Son the voice from heaven claimed his humanity so "Trinity" was not merely a doctrine but validated the everlasting covenant. " And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased./And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness." (vv.11-12) The Spirit the third office in Trinity led him as the Lucan Gospel says. He was among men but his deity was never in jeopardy. So His power and glory is his as he makes clear in his prayer, "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."( John 17:5)
As the Word become flesh his presence among them was a sign. "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."( John 14:10)
He works so all the healing we have in vv.21-45 we shall fill the dots all the way to the throne of God. Thus the healing validated the blessings mentioned in Ge.1:28. "God blessed them" and it was through his Son.
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. Here is another, "And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak."
"And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes.
When we get into practical things; for instance the last few chapters of Romans after the lengthy dissertation on the depravity of man (no one is rightous); and the "Gospel of Grace" related to covenants and the like; there could be a tendancy to discount our behaviors as being as important as these doctrinal truths. The fact is they are both important and we can't live bearing good fruit without following the truth and showing obedient love for Christ with our lifestyles. We only need to look at Luke 6:46 to see the importance of doing what He says; and John 14:15 which shows that if we love Him we will obey His commandments. The basic command to love one another is seen in both the Gospel of John and first John as a necessary mandate for a true brother in Christ. This should be a basic litmus test to draw out those who are Judas Iscariot's in our midst. These issues make things difficult when we follow such commandments as 1 Corinthians 5:11 where we are told not to even eat with one who is living in immorality or other sins as a LIFESTYLE or continuing pattern who calls themself a "Christian". This should eliminate many prosperity Gospel folks who are "swindlers"; and those practicing idolatry where a false Christ is worshipped at least in the midst of a given true fellowship of saints. There are times when we can witness to others who are in error if we are not worshipping where they are if we can have some control on the meeting situation. In short; producing good fruit is mentioned in numerous scriptures and thus only occurs with a true believer as the Parable of the Sower indicates. This is essential doctrine which is evidenced by those who are drowning in perdition due to the cares of this world overtaking them ( 1 Timothy 6:9; see also Matthew 13:23). The attitude toward authority covered in Romans 13:1-2; we are called whenever it doesn't contradict scripture to obey authorities.