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Marke,

This simple scripture spoken by Jesus is so POWERFUL and easily separates his sheep - from the rest of the worldly flocks.

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

We have the choice, we either Love Him - or we don't!

Read and Believe!

Marke,

The only thing I agree with you is; "Christians should honor God everyday"

In order to honor God everyday - we should be humble, and obedient, and trying our best to keep God's Commandments, and not try to reason ways to circumvent them, and try to convince others to do the same.

Matthew 5:19

"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Jesus tells us "everything" in this powerful scripture: John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Read and Believe!

I'm not going to go around in circles with u or anyone on this sight . I was a bit snippy with u earlier and I was wrong to be so , i apologise for that and wish u well and may God continue to bless u .

Do you know what prophecy is ?

So if I quote what you say does that make it prophecy? No

So he didn't say : my God why hast thou forsaken me ? That's what quoting is .

Actually Jesus was fulfilling prophecy , not quoting psalm 22 .

Good on finding psalm 22 it applies.

Dear "Bob", The truth is that there are three witnesses in Heaven.

It is the Spirit, the Water and the Blood. Or so: The Father, the Word and the Spirit are equal with Jesus Christ.

1 John 5:6-11 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Amen

Be blessed in His Holy Name Jesus, love u in Christ.

The Holy Spirit is Your Teacher

The desire for Jesus is in you already. The Bible is the Word of God. Like these following scriptures show us: with your own spoken words, ask the Holy Spirit to make His home within your heart, To be your Teacher. Thats his ministry to you. You will know He is teaching you. Open your mouth and speak: "Holy Spirit, come alongside and teach me what this passage means?"

Begin in the Gospels and stay in there until you know who Jesus is to you; what he likes; doesn't like; listen to his replies to people he met on his journeys.

John 14:26

But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said to you.

Luke 12:12

For the Holy Ghost shall TEACH you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

2 Timothy 2:24

And the servant of the Lord must NOT strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, gentle

1 Timothy 6:3-4

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

THE FRUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRT

Galatians 5: 22-23

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

NOW we see through a glass, DARKLY, but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I AM KNOWN. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is Love.

God watches over His Word. We're going to meet people who oppose themselves. Sometimes more is accomplished by praying for them. Heartfelt prayer is always right. Jesus is interceding for US. King David was a man after Gods own heart. His prayers and Psalms will help you.

Mishael

With affection and respect . When Jesus said those words he was quoting Psalm 22 . If you haven't read it please do and you will see that it depicts his crucifixion . I think he was quoting this Psalm to the Jews in order to try to make them see exactly who he is and that all this was long ago foretold about him . They should and probably did know that he was referencing this Psalm and maybe it would help them to recognise him and they would repent and be converted . That's what I think .

That's true Bob. In His Humanity, Jesus was 'separate' from His Father: the Word of God made flesh ( John 1:14). In the flesh, Jesus faced all the temptations, pain & heartaches that we feel, even as you shared, He felt loneliness by the Father's aloofness at that important time - that is why it's written concerning His Humanity, "For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted" ( Hebrews 2:18). Jesus was perfect Man, doing His Father's Will & then to return to Heaven from whence He came. Even as He prayed, "O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." This little verse alone tells us a lot about Who this Jesus is before He came to give Himself for us.

I think a mistake would be assuming Jesus's temporary form as a human being was somehow His "only" form, because John 1:1 already said Jesus was God from the beginning. So, yes, as a man, Jesus had intentional limited power as a man. Fully God and man, but choosing to have the constraints and full experience of a man. Obviously His deity-aspect was revealed through miracles, wisdom, clairvoyance of future, and supernatural ability to know people's thoughts and heart, but He prayed to His father like any other man. He could have called 10,000 angels but didn't. Matthew 26:53. So He operated mostly within human constraints on purpose, including experiencing a full human death. God bless.

Hi Bob.

Here's what's important.

Galatians 5:19-26. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, "VARIANCE," emulations, wrath, "STRIFE," seditions, heresies,

Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

God bless.

Sorta like when Jesus said my God my God why have you forsaken me? No mistake can be made here.

John 14.1

A no brainer that Jesus says God and he are two separate persons

Hi Benjamin.

Good question, and the answer is no. I will share a few of many scripture that testifies Jesus Christ is the only way.

John 14:6. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

John 10:7-9. Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

All that ever came before me are "thieves and robbers:" but the sheep did not hear them.

I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

( THE THIEVES AND ROBBERS IS JUDAISM OR ANY OTHER RELIGION. )

Acts 4:10-12. Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Here's what and how we're accepting.

Romans 10:8-10. But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

This is not a mere "Profession". It's a genuine change of heart!

The Holyspirit convicts a sinner of sin drives them to repentance, falling on Christ for mercy.

God bless.

No. Without Christ there's no atonement for the sinner sins. See John 14:6; Ephesians 2:13; 8-9; Romans 5:18; 4:25.

That Christ's entry into heaven and sitting at the right hand of God is a time of preparation I take from John 14:1-4 and Psalm 110:1. The fact that Psalm 110:1 has escaped your attention in all that you have said tells me you are missing something critical to Peter's encouragement. In Matthew 22:41-46 Jesus put an end to the Pharises testing questions with this verse and his question to them. I think at minimum the Psalm 110 reference is plainly in Peter's view and is a definite source of comfort to suffering Christians, whose enemies will ultimately be placed under Christ's feet as His footstool.

In my view these two passages I just mentioned relate to both God's patience and Christ's patience in sitting at the Father's right hand. Until the Father has completed His preparations, the final judgement of our age will not occur. But suffering Christians are awaiting that with Christ. To begin and end with the comfort of baptism is not all there is to cling to for those enduring true continuing and unrelenting injustice and suffering. The ultimate triumph of Christ's power over His enemies is also in view here. The spiritual realm being placed in subjection first signifies more is to come.

I take comfort in that, particularly for brothers in countries that have real persecution of Christians. They know the promise of baptism, but they also look forward to and will know vindication when the Father has brought all things in subjection to Christ in His full triumph over all of His enemies.

The salvation Noah experienced was the actual sweeping away of the wicked through the flood. Baptism, like in the case of Noah or the Israelites crossing the Red Sea, promises triumph over and final separation from the wicked and our enemies that we can be assured will actually occur through Psalm 110:1 (and the rest of that Psalm).

All people are invited into salvation. Galatians 3:28

If you are referring to the religion of Judaism these verses answer that:

John 14:6, Acts 4:12, John 3:16

Only those who believe and follow Jesus will receive salvation. This who reject Jesus should not expect salvation.

God bless...

The Results of His Work:

(1) He ascended to His Father ( Luke 24:49-53; Acts 1:6-11).

(2) He is our eternal Mediator ( 1 Timothy 2:5; Hebrews 8:6; 1 John 2:1.

(3) He is our Savior: "Thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins" ( Matthew 1:21, KJV). "Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Savior, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins" ( Acts 5:31, KJV).

He is the only Savior. "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved" ( Acts 4:12, NIV).

He is a complete Savior. "Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them" ( Hebrews 7:25, KJV).

He is a personal Savior. "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness: and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation" ( Romans 10:9, 10, KJV).

The Consummation of His Work:

(1) He shall return again to this earth ( Acts 1:11; Hebrews 10:37; John 14:3).

(2) Believers in Christ shall be bodily resurrected to begin a new, undying life ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17-18; 1 Corinthians 15:51-58).

(3) He will reign as King of kings and Lord of lords over His new creation ( 2 Peter 3:10-13; Revelation 22:3-5).

God Bless

JC

Hi dear. As concise as possible. To get the whole picture, you can read the Hebrews, in new testament.

Because the whole Word must be fulfilled, Jesus came for us all died on the cross, when He did that He fulfilled the law.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Hebrew 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

When God Speak He who created the whole world and everything around us.

Genesis 2:3

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of

He created from what He sees from His thought's. He diddent only created thats who is like nice cats and dogs, but everything that we sees He created. And not only that we can see. We have a creation beyond that, more heavens and evan more earth becouse we have a underworld as well.

Romans 1:20

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

When God speak who is Holy it has too be fulfilled. 1 Timothy 1:17

Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever.

Ephesians 3:10 God bless u in Jesus Name.

Amen.

Hi Ruth, I believe it means water baptism. Water baptism is mentioned many times in the New Testament and is both physical and symbolic. If it wasn't important then Jesus would never have mentioned it and He wouldn't have baptized nor been baptized Himself, nor talked so much about it. But when I read it with an open mind and with no regard to denominational influence, it's obvious to me that at bare minimum this act of obedience is extremely important. The verses below are quite compelling. Beware of anyone who tries to sway you away from obeying or following Jesus. We can best avoid false teaching if we read God's Word and pray for wisdom and understanding. Link

Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

John 14:15 - "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

God bless

Very true GiGi, with wonderful descriptions of our wonderful, sovereign Lord. And the thought from John 14:23, is that the Deity comes, not just to be found as a Presence or a Seal in the believer, but that He comes to reside (or, be perfectly at home), in us.

It's like when a guest who comes to stay for a few days, he receives the best we have to offer, with special care. Why? Because he is a worthy guest, compelling us to attend to his every need. How much more that Almighty God should want to live in us & feel completely at home. It's now only left to our imagination & decision as to how we view our Guest from Heaven; spending time listening & conversing with Him; going where He is pleased to go; thinking & speaking of things that which He delights in; keeping our 'house' clean of anything that would grieve Him; etc.

I think that we often forget the sweet Presence of God's Spirit & the liberty we have to commune with Him on any matter at any time. And to please Him that He might be pleased to dwell in us, we would live accordingly ('walking in the Spirit', conscious of His nearness & His gentle Voice). And so when we stray, even a little, we should immediately sense His sadness & anxious looking for our return. I believe it takes quite a discipline & maturity to immediately look to Him for everything in life, particularly when we're under testing & sin is knocking at our door. He won't allow it in - why should we even feel for the door handle & want to take a peek? I'm learning this daily - He's a great Teacher - sadly I'm a slow learner, but we'll get there in the end.

Hello Holly. I'm unsure which Scripture you're thinking of, nor of the word 'announced' (maybe a misspelling), but I'll use 1 John 2:27, "But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."

You're correct, there were different 'anointings' mentioned in Scripture, & specifically in the NT, in reference to the Holy Spirit and also combined with prayer for healing ( James 5:14). The 1 John 2:27 reference alludes to Jesus' Words about the future coming of the Holy Spirit to the apostles ( John 14:16,17): "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."

In that passage, Jesus speaks of the time when He will leave this Earth & leave His beloved friends & disciples. But they should not despair as He would still be with them by His Spirit that He will send to them. So, not only will the Spirit "abide with them forever", but also 'dwell with them & be in them'. This is an intensely descriptive message of Love by Jesus, that at no time will His disciples (& us, by extension), would ever be without His loving, comforting, & guiding Presence. They would never be in this world of darkness & evil without the Lord's watchful care. Then at Pentecost, that Presence came & they were anointed with the Spirit & filled with His Presence to be children of God serving Him in joy, power, & hope. And that same anointing comes to each one who confesses their sin & truly believes in Jesus & His Power to save them.

John 14:23, "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him", is Jesus' Promise to us.

Dearest Brother Remember One very important thing here

John 5:39 You search the scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life and these are they which testify of Me, But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.???

We are in Spirit with Christ Not flesh, it is the Spirit that guides you to the Truth Not a Man called preacher or a building called church. The Spirit is free outside.

We are Not Christ Yeshua for he was perfect.

I heal on the Sabbath if God sends me to do his will.

Now you gave me LUKE 4:18 let me show you.

The Spirit of he Lord is upon Me

because He Has ANOINTED ME.

To preach the gospel to the poor

He has sent Me to Heal the brokenhearted etc

Can you see ANOINTED ME who is Anointed dear brother do you think every church in the World has this Anointed pastor or priest.

NO we are the Church You and Me and if you have been Anointed you will know because we hear the Father speak to our hearts and we go where he tells us to go.

If we teach or Heal on the Sabbath its because he has asked us to.

99.9% of building called church has NO Anointed Man nor Women dear Brother. This why our Father calls you out of them.

Gods servants walk with God outside and touch people in secret. We are NOT Christ for thousand to follow us NO

We find you in secret dear Brother....God shows us where you are. You are called the Little Church and his little flock does Not sit in a Building made with hands. ACT 17:24 God Dose NOT dwell in a Temple made with hands.

JOHN 14:17 The Spirit of Truth whom the world CANNOT receive because it neither sees Him nor Knows Him but you know Him for He dwells with you and will be in You. Now if any of you had this Spirit of Truth you would not be questioning the Sabbath Day Saturday for you would know not to be sitting a church on the Sabbath for some pastor to be teaching a Child of God.

Get out of the Building come and Sit with your Heavenly Father God on the Sabbath and feel HIM.God bless you

Hello Keron. The Bible tells us that "the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch" ( Acts 11:26). I think that the word 'disciples' probably refers to all those who subscribed to the teachings of Jesus & followed Him & not just the twelve. And that is essentially what 'Christian' means: a Christ follower. At that time, it was used more as a derogatory word & probably spoken with disdain against those 'sectarians' who turned their backs to Judaism, embracing this Person called 'the Christ'.

Other terms were also applied to these new 'sectarians', such as Nazarenes & those of The Way. Probably taken from the One they considered their Teacher/Rabbi, of his origin & proclamation ( Matthew 2:23; John 14:6).

And then we see that the word 'Christian' came more into vogue, as King Agrippa himself used the word ( Acts 26:28) & Peter referring to those who suffer as a Christian, as opposed to those suffering for any wrongdoing or even a false accusation, whether Christian or not ( 1 Peter 4:16).

Dear Charrisse,

Thank you for listing the Commandments in the proper order per the KJV. I'm sorry, I did not list them in the proper order, and in an abbreviated fashion, but hopefully included the entire scope in the list.

I agree, we as Christ followers, are tasked by Jesus/God to try our best to follow His Commandments. There is overwhelming bible scripture confirming this requirement.



One of the most powerful scriptures in the entire bible; John 14:15 Here, Jesus tells us point blank, if we love him To keep His Commandments!!! This makes it easy for Jesus to quickly seperate His Sheep from the rest of the herd.

God Bless.

In regards to 10 Commandments as put by Bro dan, I also have Gods 10 Commandments from my KJV and they differ quite significantly. I do know from Scripture Daniel 7:25- And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

The Catholic Church system has changed Gods Law by excluding Gods 2nd Commandment, changing the 4th Commandment (Worshipping on Sunday) and cutting the 10th Commandment into two.

Here are Gods 10 Commandments from my KJV.

Exodus

And God spake all these words, saying,

1 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

3 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

4 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

5 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

6 Thou shalt not kill.

7 Thou shalt not commit adultery.

8 Thou shalt not steal.

9 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

10 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

As a Christ follower why would you NOT want to try keep holy and follow these commandments?

To disregard, you are telling Jesus that you don't love Him. John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Hello Connie,

You are right that God is not human like us. Nor is He an angelic being. Both humans and angels are created by God. But God is uncreated and completely Spirit. He does not have a body or "parts" like us or animals. Angels have a spiritual body, but God does not have a spiritual body like the angels do. He is only Spirit and does not have a form or occupy a specific amount of space in heaven or earth. But people take up physical space on earth and angels have a form, so they take up space in the spiritual realm.

But, as the Bible reveals, God the son took on humanity and became a man-Jesus Christ, who was fully God and fully man in one Person in one body. He lived, died, rose again, and ascended to heaven bodily. His physical body was uncorrupted and upon His resurrection, His body was transformed into the type of body we will all have when we are resurrected. This body is physical as ours will be, but incorruptible. Jesus will always be fully God and fully man in one person in one body forever. When He comes back, He will come back bodily. In eternal live, we will see God in Jesus forever. So, God, who is eternal Spirit, added to Himself a human body to the Person of God the Son in order to save us. It is such a mystery. But in heaven, we will understand more fully and will be completely awed by the Person we see as God-Jesus Christ. The Father and the Holy Spirit do not have a body or form, (and Jesus did not either before He became man), but we will experience each person of the Godhead (Trinity)

in Jesus, as Jesus said that He and the Father are One.

See John 14:7, 9-11 John 17:6-19

Angels are the Supreme Creatures. They have lived a long time before you and me. And the angels have Nothing to do with the Jewish people.

40 years ago i had a neighbor who kept saying that the his angel had pushed on him again today. I dont belived this was true soo i laughed at him.

Today I no longer laugh. For today i KNOW THAT THE ANGELS EXIST.

I have experienced it so many times.

They exist and i can see them in the Spirit sometimes. So before you say anything more, you can pray in spirit and truth, get closer to the kingdom of God, even if you are on earth.

Sometimes it takes a long time to get into this state. It's not done in 2 minutes if u think that. Its the same with a pray. Sometimes u know u have a answer on a thing. And other times u know that "this one is a hard one". Do u give up then? No,we continue with the prayer until we feel peace over it right? This is about being endurance.

And do you know, dear friend, how many endurance and wise people there are? Not me either but i know they are many. Who sincerely thank the lives they have and pray incessantly for all people.

Start there you who want to see Angels. Pray in Spirit and truth in the shadow of Jesus Christ. He who Is King over everything and everyone. Remember Jesus said: John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Grae, your doctrine is very corrupted with modern church lies. Jesus never ONCE broke the law or that would mean He had sinned. If He had sinned, He wouldn't have been perfectly SIN-LESS on the Cross and His sacrifice/Crucifixion would have had no effect. He obeyed every single one of His Father's 10 Commandments His ENTIRE Life. And He absolutely 100% expects those who love Him to do the same.

John 14:15

John 15:10

1 John 2:6

I am sorry for all who have been brainwashed by modern preachers and teachers of every modern church, as well as big-name pastors on TV and those on Christian Radio. Almost every single one of them preach nothing but unscriptural LIES.

Jesus did not allow, nor encourage, ANYBODY to break the Laws of God. That is plain silly. Jesus IS God. John 1:1, John 1:14 Nothing that was ever created, was not created by Jesus Christ John 1:3 Therefore, the 10 Commandments written IN STONE as a symbol of their FOREVER standing, were written by Christ and they are HIS Commandments. He lived as an example to all those who would follow His Ways (Christians) and He obeyed ALL those Commandments.

Post some scripture to support your claims that Jesus did these things, please.

God bless.