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Amen Brother Jesse.

John 14:6.

And if I'm correct that truth shall be manifested into us. It should be his voice we hear with the open ear through other believers, Love, Humility and Meekness should keep us in union.

John 14:16-26. And I will pray THE FATHER, AND HE SHALL GIVE YOU ANOTHER COMFORTER, THAT HE MAY ABIDE WITH YOU FOR EVER;

EVEN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; WHOM THE WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE, BECAUSE IT SEETH HIM NOT, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE WILL COME UNTO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.

He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.

BUT THE COMFORTER, WHICH IS THE HOLY GHOST, WHOM THE FATHER WILL SEND IN MY NAME, HE SHALL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Thanks again and God bless.

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Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our ABODE with him/her.

Comment: According to our individual desire to give ourselves fully to God, they will come to live within us.

The Blood of Jesus gives us right standing with God.

God is so Holy that he cannot dwell with sins. That's why Jesus did what he did. He loves the Father, and He loves us. Jesus bridged the gap for us; and will do so forever.

God is LOVE. His affection is set upon us.

John 14:6 indicates that Jesus is "the truth". John 8:58, "before Abraham was, I am"

Truth is the universal constant, the overlooked stone that the builder rejected.

Opinion is to truth as Goliath is to David.

My humble comment pertains to the response to Jayden by Robert regarding Matthew 11:28 posted 11 months ago....... Thanks and Blessings! Robert, you have provided much insight, and it brings a particular question from my pea brain. Who was it to say, or how was it that it was determined that there should be the Old Testament and the New Testament? It's almost as if it is to keep a form of division or divisiveness or maybe just a simple form of visual separation between the teachings of Jews and the teachings of Christians showing where humankind was and where humankind is to be....... to be one with GOD, from the Beginning, through the HIS Gift of Life to us through JESUS CHRIST, The Alpha and The Omega, The Beginning and The Ending as is written in The Book of Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Personally, I have said to people that it appears to me that life before JESUS was so very, very complicated, and JESUS IS LIFE through a much less complicated WAY, and as it is written in John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." All I can say is JESUS I trust in YOU and only YOU....... Hallelujah! Oh yes, these words are inspired by The HOLY SPIRIT! Praise GOD Almighty! Thanks and Blessings!

Hi Sister Dianne.

Yes, I know you didn't say greater in ability,

but I just wanted to touch on that while this verse is presented because there's some out there that use that verse in that way.

God bless.

S Spencer I will be clearer from now on never mean't greater in ability that's impossible. First mistake I ever made in my life. NOT!

Thanks Brother Jesse.

Amen The power which was performing those works is working in many believers in diverse ways, so the volume has ramped up, it is the quantity not quality as you said.

And Jesus was not displaying gifts, He was displaying Power given to him by the Father.

John 14:10-11. Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

I have heard several people across the years say we can do greater things than Jesus, when reading that verse, One guy even taught a class and asked when you look in the mirror who do you see? I knew where he was going with this so I said an unworthy sinner saved by the grace of God. He said I was wrong, you are seeing Jesus. You can do the miracles Jesus did if you prayed to the father and it happens all the time! "We can do greater things than Jesus!"

I asked him can a man raise himself from the dead?

John 10:17-18. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. ( I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.) This commandment have I received of my Father.

Even the Apostles could not do that.

God bless.

Amen Brother Earl.

Your Quote:

but the Spirit performing these miracles through the labour of his SAINTS, CANNOT be seen. Raising the dead (in trespasses and making them alive in Christ, making the blind see, the deaf hear, the lame walk.

Same POWER, SAME MIRACLE, one can be seen (in flesh), the other can't be seen (in Spirit).

Food for thought, the Spirit reveals.

God Bless.

Amen Mishael.

God bless.

Hi Dianne.

Sorry it took so long to respond to you, I am working on my honey do list.

The works Jesus is talking about in John 14:12. Is his miracles and being that he will gift his disciples with the Holyspirit shortly after his death, to work and perform these same miracles, as Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:10. But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

And he also said in Galatians 2:8. (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:) The apostles was given the Holyspirit and a measure of grace to take to the whole world to lay down the foundation that we are to build on. Paul said this grace was mighty in him. By the Holyspirit they was able to raise the dead!

But with all that being said that's not what he wanted the outside world to gaze upon when determining whether they was a follower of him or not. Here is what he wanted the world to see, which was given by the same spirit.

John 13:34-35. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. This was also working mightily in them.

Here is another example of what the spirit had to do in their lives. listen to the Lord after Peter forbid him to was his feet but then allowed it to be so.

John 13:12-15. So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?

("Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.

If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.")

For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.

There is a lesson in humility.

God bless.

Different people come in here at different times. It's all free to whosoever will. Myself, I may be deep studying for days. I get inside my closet, under the clothes and pray, some days. Once I found out what a blessing it is to be shut up with the Holy Spirit; you couldn't get me out of there.

I'm a career single, so I can be attentive to the Lords time. I made that choice and I'm happy with it. If that makes me weird, so be it. I guess I kinda know how John (the Baptist) felt. I don't eat grasshoppers but I do fast regularly. It's because I'm busy, involved in what the Lord is doing.

Not everyone is retired as I am. They're working jobs, got children and grandchildren; lawns to mow, honey-do's, to do.

The only thing I have trouble doing, is spending time in front of the TV. If I do, I pray that He will help me see the stories He wants me to see.

I come in here to answer questions. Your questions and concerns fill my prayer time every day. It is my pleasure to try and be helpful.

All our teachers, preachers, prophetically gifted, pastors who are gifted to care for sheep and carry the lambs in prayer, are ALL NEEDED. WE ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST :)

His eyes, ears, hands, feet to carry the Gospel, knees to bend in Prayer; and so much more.

We need every member doing what The Holy Spirit has carefully gifted us for. God bless all those that give of their wealth to the poor. By wealth, that can mean many things.

The one thing I'm sure of is that if we get puffed up over our greatness, that the Holy Spirit will let us know. That's how we know we are Beloved Children of God.

We are only as great as our Praise and Worship TO GOD is. It frees us in the spirit. It's not a chore. It's a privilege.

Psalm 136 is a song of worship and praise to show us how. I modify it sometimes to fit my own life and times when I knew God was helping me. We need to remember the past, present and future.

Let's love people like Jesus did, does.

Mishael

Earl I agree with everything you stated.God Bless It Is Written

Sir I never stated or implied more in quality when sharing that subject matter, whats interesting to me on this site is what gets replied to and what doesn't. But there again that's par for the course.

P.S. I don't consider on this website anybody intruding, just additional input to consider.I don't take it personally but on the word I want to take it to heart. God Bless

Brother I agree all the miracles are in the category of the senses it is spirit power that enables the ability. Forgive me if I'm not understanding you correctly. We see the effect of the operation of the God given ability but not the source, that's the manifestation of Pneuma Hagion or Holy Spirit. God Bless

Sister Dianne, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

I'm intruding into your's and S Spencer's discussion:

I BELIEVE Jesus (first coming in the flesh) and his apostles were given power to perform miracles that could be seen in the flesh. Raising the dead, making the blind see, the deaf hear, the lame walk.

FIRST the natural (seen), then (second) the SPIRITUAL (unseen):

I BELIEVE Jesus (the second coming in the HOLY SPIRIT) in his SAINTS, are given this same power; but the Spirit performing these miracles through the labour of his SAINTS, CANNOT be seen. Raising the dead (in trespasses and making them alive in Christ, making the blind see, the deaf hear, the lame walk.

Same POWER, SAME MIRACLE, one can be seen (in flesh), the other can't be seen (in Spirit).

Food for thought, the Spirit reveals.

Brother Spencer,

Your statement on John 14:12 was perfect, Amen!

Verily, verily, I say unto you, and any time we see the words "verily, verily, it means establishment of a spiritual truth. He that believeth on me, literally INTO ME, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.



The term "greater," because there's many different views as to what greater means, and a lot of people want it mean greater works in that you will do more than what Jesus did. It is called the genitive of quantity, not genitive of quality because there is no such thing. It is called the genitive of quantity.



In other words, more greater works in the sense of there will be more of them because God at that time was limited and located in the person of Jesus Christ, but when Jesus leaves and sends His Spirit, His Spirit will now indwell all of His people.



And Jesus will be working through His people, thousands, millions of them all over the world, genitive of quantity.

S Spencer This is not to disagree my question is do you believe that what Jesus Christ said there was just for the disciples only or for anyone who believes in Him after receiving The Gift of Holy Spirit from God.

Jesus referred to Satan as the "prince of this world": John 14:30 and John 16:11. I guess if the Son of God spoke this of him, then all of Heaven recognizes him as such; at least for a while until his power & influence are finally withdrawn & he is locked away for eternity.

Rejoice.

Let's take it from verse 10,

And I will share what I believe verse 12 means.

In verses 10 and 11 Here Jesus says he's in the Father and the Father is in him, And Jesus contribute the work to the Father,

In verse 12 The work that Jesus does and the greater here mentioned here is not greater in quality, It's greater in volume.

That's why Jesus said

BECAUSE I GO UNTO MY FATHER.

Jesus had to go to the Father before he sent the Holyspirit to dwell in them.

Luke 24:49. And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, UNTIL YE BE ENDUED WITH POWER FROM ON HIGH.

That power was the Holyspirit and the Apostles ministered with that Power on display to the World.

John 14:10-12. Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but THE FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME, HE DOETH THE WORKS.

11: Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

12: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, THE WORKS THAT I DO SHALL HE DO ALSO; and GREATER WORKS THAN THESE SHALL HE DO; BECAUSE I GO UNTO MY FATHER.

God bless.

In John 14 Jesus Christ is sharing the things that will become and now are available when an individual confesse Romans 10:9+10 and believes it in their hearts and does the will of God which is His Word, His Spirit takes up resident LITERALLY in our bodies and He begins to make the way He operates and wants you to do known. The more you walk the more He makes known. The real mind blower is verse 12 and this guy raised the dead, and He said us who believe will do greater works than he did. Now we can believe it or not.

I don't understand verse21 of the scripture

Jesus christ lived in the category of the Spirit and miraculous and made it available for us to do the same John 14: 12+13. Now are we the Sons of God, no more condemnation , we have been made righteous, we can heal and be healed, we can deliver others from the darkness of this world, we are more than conquerors through Him who gave himself for use, in ending For I am persuaded that neither death nor life nor angels nor principalities nor power nor things present nor things to come nor height nor depth nor any other creature shall absolute tense separate us from the love of God whis in Christ Jesus our Lord. Starting the day with this beats wheaties the breakfast of champions.

Hello Gilberto. I think of Jesus' Words to His troubled enquiring disciples in John 14:27, "Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid."

This was Jesus' Promise to them & to all who would believe on Him, that His Peace would be their joyful portion, as only His Spirit could give them. With that Peace, comes a certain Rest: a Rest in the knowledge of the veracity of His Word, the full salvation by the Cross, & a life of inner peace in an uncertain & troublesome world. And this Rest that Christ gives His people has been secured & paid for by Jesus Himself; it comes to us at no cost, nor could we ever be able to purchase it by our efforts. The Jews of Jesus' day, & even now, come to God on their own merits & works, believing that God would accept them for their obedience to the Laws & observance of all the regulations & feasts. But their desire for Peace in this life & into eternity is not founded in Jesus, God's Son, the Prince of Peace, which means they would never have it.

And yet, even though Jesus paid the price for our salvation & the peace & rest that we're assured of, we are warned in Hebrews 4:11, "Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief." Even though this passage speaks of that future rest for believers when all our labours & trials are over & we finally get to be with our Lord, it is clear that we can enjoy that rest & peace now which Jesus gives by virtue of His Spirit. The Jews miss out on it because of unbelief - we can enjoy it now & into the future only through faith in Jesus' Work on the Cross - and of course, without any cost to us, except to remain faithful to Him, loving Him & looking for His Coming. And all who have been touched & indwelt by His Spirit will continue to endure this life to its end, finding complete rest only in Jesus.

Many thanks to all who responded to my question about the Sabbath. Exodus 20:8 - Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Ray You are in need of total change of focus mentally, In the old testament He sent His word and healed them and delivered them from their fears. Change your head change your life. Scriptures are light and life. Here's a few 2 Timothy 1:7, 2 Peter 2:24, John 14:12-14, also you must act on what the word of God says we have been given. I.E. Romans 5:1-9, Romans 8:28-39, 1 John 3:1+2, 1 John 3:20-22, 2 Peter 1:1-8, never focus the negative. Remember what you have been given was and is Gods good pleasure, and it blessed Him because He desired a family us, Ephesians 1: 1-11, so there get the light of the word in. I'll be praying for you.

Jesse With all due respect in Gospel of John 14:10-14 Jesus Christ said those that believe in me, this is not just addressed to the apostles, after day of pentecost as Paul writes in the Church epistles we were given Christ in us and all the power that comes with the package deal. In the book of acts there were other believers than the apostles that did miracles. In Mark 16: 17-20 Jesus Christ said those that believe not Just the apostles.

Dale absolutely Look at Gospel of John 14: 12-14, one of these days were going to believe this stuff. Think of all the works He Did, and to think all someone has to do is confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe. There was a man I think His name was star daily Great man of God, confessed Romans 10:9+10 on death row believed and don't know if it was instantaneous of over time but when they came for execution His visage Changed so much that they believed they locked up the wrong man and set Him free. Another one was a narcotics dealer in south america son of an Evangelist who mother was preaching one night and stopped to pray for her son. At the time she prayed he had a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger and it shot but the bullet turned to power in his mouth. He new it was a miracle got born again. One more I met a lady born again that was prayed for her sickness, died was rolled down to the hospital area for autopsy and shocked the examiners because before they did anything she woke up and sat up healed. Its available

Dale God designed the human body to be self healing any Honest person in the medical field will attest to that statement now to be healed By God of something from my experience and when you read if I'm reading correctly when Jesus Christ healed with Gods power you always read immediately. There's the difference between the two and since the day of pentecost absolutely available in any and all categories example and this is the mind blower Gospel of John 14:10-14 wrap your head around that one. Thats what available after Romans 10:9+10. What a Father and Saviour. God Bless

Here's is one of the most important verses in scripture. And one of the most misunderstood!

Because people think this is something you do, or you just say.

But it's something that you have no control of!! John is telling us it has already been done by the Holyspirit!

Notice the last four words doesn't say you SHOULD LOVE your brother also. IT SAYS YOU DO! OR IT'S DONE. THIS IS PERFORMED BY THE HOLYSPIRIT. ITS AGAPE.

1 John 4:21. And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God LOVE HIS BROTHER ALSO.

1 John 3:10. IN THIS THE CHILDREN OF GOD ARE MANIFEST, AND THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, NEITHER HE THAT LOVETH NOT HIS BROTHER.

If this Love don't exist between two then maybe you're not brothers. Which implies you have separate Fathers.

Jude 1:4. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jude 1:12. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots

Jude 1:18-19. How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

1 John 2:19. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, THAT THEY MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST THAT THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US.

Beware of woman and men who say they're Christian but join themselves with EVERYONE how is against truth.

John 14:6. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Thanks Jesse for much on this lesson.

God bless.