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Hi Jesse, is your position that Christians never commit blasphemy of the holy spirit? or that they are incapable to? or they don't have the freewill to?

The Bible says even angels in heaven sinned, because they too have freewill in heaven. Humans have the same freewill, and Christians have the same freewill, do they not? Unfortunately some Christians have turned to evil and denounced faith in Jesus and committed blasphemy of the holy spirit, do you recognize this? Judas did that.

What is your reason for living life as a Christian or trying to be obedient to Jesus, if it has nothing to do with going to heaven?

Hebrews 10:26 You said doesn't refer to salvation, except it does. Have you read the whole chapter? How do you feel about James 2:17-26 or John 14:15, or Luke 12:9?

Many verses say Christians are to be obedient, but are you saying obedience or transforming isn't needed to enter heaven? Do you think there's no downside to Christians following the world of sin? Romans 12:2

Hello, the Bible refutes that with these 2 verses and more. A Christian who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit clearly isn't forgiven and won't go to heaven, because that's what Jesus said. He warned Christians about this in the Bible: Mark 3:28-30. Hebrews 10:26. How can anyone claim that a Christian who deliberately turns their back on God and permanently denounces Jesus is still saved? It seems that Jesus's own words would have to be ignored to come to such a conclusion. John 14:15. Why would Jesus tell his Christian followers to obey Him if they were already saved and if it made no difference if they obeyed or not? Why does this Matthew 7:21 reference say also to obey if you don't have to? Clearly these verses paint a different picture than the one satan is painting trying to convince Christians that its ok to disobey and sin all you want with no consequence. One of these beliefs is true and the other is false. Satan is the father of lies and may be behind one of them- which is more likely, that satan is deceiving Christians into being unnecessarily obedient, or that he's deceiving Christians into believing it's ok to be disobedient?

we are in the end times

Read Matthew 24 as it lays out events to happen prior to the end.

Is this the end

If you love Jesus, obey His commandments. John 14:15 If you don't obey His commandments then you don't love Jesus. If you don't love and follow Jesus you won't be with Him in heaven for eternity. It's pretty simple. You were given the freewill to choose and many will not chose the narrow path, but will believe satan's deception that it's ok to do evil, that you don't need to try or make effort to do anything good, etc. Matthew 7:22-23

"Be ye strong therefore, and let not your hands be weak: for your work shall be rewarded."

2 Chronicles 15:7 (KJV)

Keep on keeping on. Faith is living by Faith in Father God and Christ's Tough-LOVE for you, and not be sight. Even though you may feel weak and unrewarded by Father God and you may be walking through the valley of the SHADOW of death ( Psalms 23:4), but know that SHADOWS disappear when THE SON SHINES IN!!! You are Rewarded. Focus on God and Christ in You!!! Christ says in John 14:18 "I will NOT leave you comfortless: I Will Come To You [in You NOW!!!]." Hallelujah!!! Amen

Micah 6:8

"He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"

John 14:6

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Thankyou for sharing your testimony as it is exactly the same as mine. I felt indwelled with the Holy Spirit when I read this verse, I cried and it will stay with me always. Come Jesus, Hallelujah and Praise the Lord forever.

New Testament Scripture, "If you love Me, keep my Commandments" ( John 14:15); in these types of discussions, in general, why aren't the two Great Commandments also mentioned since they are mentioned in the NT also? Getting tired, Are the 10 commandments part of the Mosaic Law and if so, then one must keep the whole law, true? If one lets God empower them to keep the two Great Commandments, will it cause them to obey the Ten Commandments also?

Satan is the father of lies and he likes to deceive Christians into thinking they don't have to stop sinning, that they can stay in the world and partake of its evil without consequence, because, hey, 'once saved, always saved'. But is that true? Which circumstance is satan more likely behind: that he deceives Christians into avoiding sin and being stronger followers of Jesus than they need to be, or that he deceives Christians into believing their sin doesn't matter and they can enjoy unlimited sinning without consequence? Obviously the latter is the one satan uses to deceive and we hear this even preached in churches. Jesus himself said otherwise: John 14:15

See John 9:1-3. Christ Jesus answers this question here. See John 14:12. The "works" spoken here are demonstrations of healing done with Love and Truth through Spirit. He never used anything when he healed but God's power. If you are a believer, than you are Christ Jesus' disciple too, also written in the Scriptures. Romans chapter 8 is helpful. The Bible uses symbols so everyone can understand it from different languages at their own pace. The Christ viewed man with Love, he saw no imperfection in them. He saw man as in Gen. 1:26. God is Love, good. There is no fear. I hope this answers your question.

Hi Benji, I'd like to challenge your OSAS belief with what Jesus himself said in John 14:15. Do you think Jesus was being bad and legalistic by saying to keep his commandments? If a Christian is already saved and doesn't have to keep his commandments then what incentive is there to? Is there any negative consequence whatsoever if a Christian mass murders people or worships satan or does any number of despicable things? If you claim he's not a real Christian, no, he is. I know people who are 100% absolutely Christians and some turn to denounce Jesus and do horrible things. They were Christians. If all you do is believe to be saved, do you believe Hitler and most people on earth are saved?

IMO does not mean earn your way,only try to do the best you can according to his commandnents,& a willingness to obey.Not striving for boasymtung,but with a humbled heart,wanting to do the right thing g.We know we are not & will not be perfect except thru Hesus Christ.He also said in his last words on the cross.It Is Finished.That means he paid it all.W ed cannot outdo or do better.There is no more said rifice.Ehen we are his sheep,his followers,& believers,we wish to,& have a yearning to do his commandments.But we are saved by AMAZING GRACE.It is not earned.We are called by our spirit,& freely given his eternal love.

Never strive,just obey

Revelation Chapter 6: 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the SOULS (not bodies) souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
These souls are with the Lord under the altar of God.
2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. Those in Christ go to be with the Lord when they die awaiting new bodies. Those not in Christ, well they go to the other place....

Nope it pertained to the disciples. Everyone will be judged. How can you be in heaven before judgement day? Then be judged and get kicked out? AMD hiw dies a human get to say how wonderful another human is? They could have been really crappy on the inside that's why we all still gotta be judged m the first death and the second death. It's all in there.

He was speaking to his disciples not us. Raju are on heaven possibly bit we must all be judged first. It says so in countless scriptures.old and mee testament. When we die we go back t ok the ground and await the second coming. If every one just went straight to heaven because man thought they where good people, what's the point? Jesus himself said the dead no nothing. As if they were asleep!! Thays Jesus saying that not me!! Gotta wait for the resurrection to see where you're truly going! Heaven, hell or the new earth. Says it right on the bible, the meek shall inherit the earth. So we dont just magically die and wake up in heaven! There would be on use for judgement.

Bob Hilt you are right. Check this out; Rom 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." Notice he didn't say God's gospel. HIS gospel? Acts 16:28-31, Paul has the opportunity to tell this man what it takes to be save. Luke 18:18-25. Jesus has the opportunity to tell this man. Hey wait until they kill me and believe on my blood and you shall be save. Paul teaching is difference from Jesus Christ. God greater then Jesus! St John 14:28 Rom 8:11and St John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing- Rev22:12-14 St John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do." Psalm 72:17-18 Read and compare. Ty

Let's not leave out the fact Jesus bore the sins of all humanity, so when he died and rose from the grave, our sins remained in the grave. In order for Jesus to intercede and redeem us, he had to live the life of man and overcome sin, that through his blood and sacrifice, he is the only one that is able to save us. "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man cometh unto the father but by me." John 14:6 - This is why we pray to God "In the name of Jesus". I pray you gain understanding, and BELIEVE on him.

I took a bad turn last year and my wife left me after 36 years. Her name is Vonnie.
To say I love her simply doesn't say how much I really do love her. I want prayer for us both and I'm standing on Gods word. John 14:13 says ask anything in my name and I will do it, for it brings glory to the father. Yes, ask anything...I'm walking each day in his light so that these filthy I wear so that love brings us to a place and our marriage completely restored. I can't fix this. I must confess that I fell back into drinking over a time that only I can be held responsible. I serve a mighty God who knows all this and i can never be the man Without her. Amen

Hi Roberta, God spoke to them, It's ok! John 14:27 " Let not your hearts be troubled , neither let them be afraid."

2 Peter 3:9

Do you believe a Christian doesn't have the freewill to sin? If so that contradicts scripture. Have you considered that the reason 1 John 3:6 says whoever abideth doesn't sin is because a Christian is abiding, being obedient and deliberately choosing to avoid sin rather than assuming that a Christian can't sin, or assuming it's ok to sin because it's 'not really sin'? The latter is a lie from satan of course and satan deceives some Christians into believing sinning is ok, which it clearly is not. Jesus clearly said to avoid sin and be obedient. If Christians had no freewill and were robots then why would Jesus say so many times to be obedient? John 14:15 Those who justify sin don't love Jesus, do you agree?

This seems to be a common argument lately and I see no evidence it is from the Bible or God. Have you prayed to God for wisdom and clarification of this? Because to the vast majority of Christians the Bible in crystal clear English says Christians can and do sin. Even angels in heaven had the freewill to sin and that's what satan and his followers did. Isaiah 14:12, Ezekiel 28. If it was impossible for a Christian to sin today then why would Jesus spend so much time telling his followers specifically NOT to sin, but to obey? Are Christians robbed of freewill? No, they still can choose sin and often do. Some use grace as an excuse to enjoy sinning. John 14:15, John 3:36, 1 Cor 11:27-32.

Jermal, you already have good references & to add just two more, check John 8:19 and John 14:9. God bless you for studying His word.

Jesus commanded us to love our enemies not hate them, Matthew 5:44. In John 14:15 Jesus said if you love him then obey his commands. Those who do not, don't love and Jesus aren't following Jesus and aren't real Christians is the implication. Loving our enemies and praying for them in this context I believe refers to human beings and not the satan or demons. Human beings are all made in God's image and can still can be saved, even those who currently claim to follow satan. I don't see any scripture saying we should put ourselves in physical danger or risk of temptation to minister to them, but love them and pray for them, yes, that's exactly what Jesus said to do.

For Sarah Lott: I believe the verse for the day for Sunday 2-2-2020 was John 14:27 " Peace I leave with you, my peace
I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." I just
read this verse at my fathers funeral on Thursday 1-30-2020. I also read this verse to my church after my daughter Tracey passed away unexpectedly in a car accident on January 16, 2002. The LORDS words are faithful and true. May those who need peace, find it through the LORDS sacrifice given for mankind....believe, repent and obey. The King of the Universe is worth living for him. Who doesn't want eternal life??



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Hello, blasphemy against the holy spirit is unforgivable: Link - Also, one must question if someone who commits suicide is truly a Christian following Christ who loves Jesus? Because suicide would be like slapping Jesus in the face: JOHN 14:15

Actually the Bible does say that. When Jesus warned his disciples not to sin, his disciples were Christians, which are people who follow Christ, and they did that even literally. John 14:15 - if you love Jesus keep his commandments avoid sin . Blasphemy is a sin that is unforgivable. Following Jesus requires action and obedience. Grace is not a license to justify sin.