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Part 1 of 3 Hello Ar, I am glad to hear from you. A person is made up of body, soul, and spirit. In 1 Thessalonians 5 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ . But a person is still just the one individual. In that one individual dwells all three facets of his being. So then the God we serve cannot make himself like this as well? The flesh cried out to the Deity. See this flesh that we look at every day in the mirror is not going to Heaven, but the soul that inhabits this body is going if they have followed Acts 2 38 or during the tribulation get their head chopped off. The flesh does not want to go through persecution or pain of any kind. We as human beings we do not even want to get a cold if we can help it.

wow...even a BIGGER WOW!! Found this documentation..The LORD JESUS!! My God ..my Father thank you for showing my heart and mind this false teacher who comes is your name but is false! There is Only One God Oneness Pentecostals declare that the Godhead consists of only one Person and deny the traditional doctrine of the Trinity. They maintain that the only real person in the Godhead is Jesus. Thus, they are often referred to as the Jesus Only Movement. They maintain that God exists in two modes, as the Father in heaven and as Jesus the Son on earth. Nevertheless, they are the same person, not two separate persons. The Holy Spirit is not regarded as a person at all, merely a manifestation of Jesus power or a synonym for Him. Several verses are quoted to establish this view such as Colossians 2 9 NKJV , For in Him Jesus dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Oneness theologians would argue that if the Father and the Son were separate, then the Godhead could not fully dwell in Christ. They also look to Matthew 28 19 to affirm their views that Jesus commanded His disciples to baptize in the name singular of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Wow.....this even explains more of what I knew in my heart was NOT true..I thank the Lord Jesus ,my Father Holy Spirit for showing the truth! The modern Pentecostal movement is generally regarded to have begun in 1901 in a chapel prayer meeting in Topeka, Kan., led by Charles Parham, a teacher at Bethel Bible College. A few years later, in 1906, the Pentecostal experience of speaking in tongues burst on the scene during a revival in an African American Baptist church on Azuza Street in Los Angeles, Calif. Following these beginnings, Pentecostal preachers and churches spread rapidly, coalescing into various denominations and factions. In 1913, one popular teacher, R.E. McAlister of Toronto, Ont., began teaching that the Trinity doctrine was untrue and that baptism should be done correctly in Jesus name only not in the traditional Trinitarian formula. Other preachers, such as Frank J. Ewart and John G. Scheppe, joined McAlister in his non Trinitarian perspective

Jesus is now with my Heavenly Father preparing my place for me us .What I will live in in heaven with my Lord is what I do with my Lord Jesus here in this life . I believe the word teaches that what we lay up in heaven here in this life is what we will have in heaven forever . I must be diligent to keep my affairs in proper perspective and order here because it determines what my life will be with my Lord God through out eternity. What I receive from my Lord is mine through out eternity !!!! I desire a closeness with my Lord !!!! I have had some great experiences with my Lord and I have had some fall downs my sins with my Lord. I hope He will be able to say " Well done thou good and faithful servant ". Rejoicing with good expectancy !!!

THANK YOU FATHER FOR YOUR WORD OF GOD. IT HAS COME SO TIMELY. DELIVERANCE IS NEIGH THANK YOU JESUS THANK YOU JESUS THANK YOU JESUS

To Evangelist Chatauna Robinson remark of 10 11 2014 I refer to just three verses which Jesus said while walking in this world. There are many others referring to God separately in other chapters of the NT , including Revelation. Who is this Father that Jesus is praying and talking about? Mark 13 32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father Mat. 26 42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done Luke 23 3434 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Hello Ar, Once again the very first Chapter of John, verse 1 states In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Verse 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. Verse 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. Who was in the world? The answer is Jesus Christ. The Word was God and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us. The answer is Jesus Christ.

Hello Lois, When you say that there are three in the Godhead this is still saying that you and Ar believe that there are three Gods to worship. This is still not true. The scripture states in Colossians 2 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. This scripture does not say that he dwells with two other beings. Jesus stands alone as the chief cornerstone. He is both Lord and Christ. Peter declared this on the Day of Pentecost.

Hello Josh, You are absolutely correct. There is no three Gods there is only one. He is both Lord and Christ. See Josh, in the Old Testament God had many names. In the New Testament he declared his name and that is Jesus Christ.

Hello Mockingbird, I am glad to know that you are filled with the Holy Ghost. See some people say they are filled but they have not spoken in other tongues as the spirit of God give utterance. This is the true evidence of the true Holy Ghost.

Hello Ar, You do not have to believe me, but believe the Word of God. Everything I have stated I have shown scripture. Yes, I am Pentecostal, Apostle Faith member of the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World. I am what some call a Jesus only. I am very glad to be called Jesus only. Because it is through him that we are saved, Acts 4 12 "Neither is there salvation in any other for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved ". I have followed Acts 2 38 to the fullest. I am glad to be filled with the Holy Ghost and speak with other tongues as the spirit give utterance. If I had the money to go on television and radio I would say it there also. If I am not mistaken a lot of people are saying that they belong to Jesus Christ.

A. This Chapter John 14, is full of many promises of Jesus. One is many of other proofs found in other chapters of the N.T., referring to Rapture . Jesus going to prepare a place and come back to take His people there. 2 In my Father 's house are many mansions if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself that where I am, there ye may be also B. That Jesus is the only way to the Father 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. C. The H.S. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever Father, Son and the H.S. Always working in Harmony together from the beginning of the Creation That 's The Blessed Trinity

The trinity doctrine was meant to confuse believers of jehovah. I am confused by it. I dont accept it.

Clarification Jesus came to seek and to save that which is lost. Luke 19 10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. Matthew 18 11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. This is why he came. He is our example and we follow his word through the Apostle 's doctrine. 2 Timothy 3 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

Evangelist Chatauna Robinson . I have no interest to comment on what you are very wrongly stating in almost all your comments, but I have a question, and if you want you reply. Are you one of those who belong to a group of people called "Jesus only "?

Hello Charles A, during the time that Jesus was here he came to seek and to save that which was lost and be our example. In regards to verse 16, Jesus is talking about the Holy Ghost. If you read further down to verse 26 you will find that this is the comforter in which Jesus was talking about. So the name of the Holy Ghost is Jesus. When verse 16 states "abide in you " this is what Jesus is talking about that apart of him, which is the Holy Ghost, will abide in you after you have followed what Acts 2 38 says. See there is no three gods. There is only on God. Colossians 2 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

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Hello Lois and AR, I am submitting this for the third time. I hope it gets printed. This goes with my answer earlier. Part 1 of 2 Let me clarify what I am saying. When I said that there is no trinity, I am saying that there is no three Gods or beings in which we worship. When you are baptized some preachers will say I now baptize you in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost. This is an incorrect baptism. They should only be saying I will now baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. The reason is that Jesus Christ is both Lord and Christ. He is God manifested in the flesh. Jesus Christ does not dwell in the godhead bodily with two other beings. Instead, in Jesus Christ dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily Colossians 2 9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily . If you read over under Acts Chapter 2 you will find an extensive response that I gave to others about the oneness of God and the importance of the Ephesians 4 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism .

Hello Lois, To further clarify John 1 1 states "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God ". Verse 10 "He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not ". Who was in the world? Jesus Christ. Verse 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. See Jesus who is the Word was in the world, he made the world, and the Word was God. In Genesis 1 1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth,

I went through my comments to make sure what I said...I noticed I did not say there are 3 God 's to worship....I said there are 3 persons in the Godhead....as this ...God, Jesus, who is God, and Holy Spirit who is God also...3 distinct persons...and yes Jesus did come in the flesh...agreed..He came as Emmanuel which means God with us.... . one God but with 3 distinct persons...

Hello Lois, The scripture that you are trying to quote is found in 1 John Chapter 4 verses 2 thru 3 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God. And every spirit that confesseth not the Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come and even now already is it in the world. Now I have always stated that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. According to John 1 1 Jesus Christ is God manifested in the flesh. There is only one God. Ephesians 4 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism. So when you say that there is three Gods to worship this is not true. There is only one.

Hello Lois and Ar, Usually when people talk about the trinity they believe that it is three Gods in which to worship. In reality it is only one. He name is Jesus Christ. He holds all three titles. He is the Father. He is the Son. He is the Holy Ghost. There is only one God.

I wish this was in real time. I have responded to the both of you. I hope that my comments come out tomorrow. Then you will get a clear understanding of what I am saying.

Part 2 of 2 Colossians 3 17 "And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him, " A deed is a thing done, act. Baptism is a act in which we do according to Acts 2 38. Therefore, when doing this deed or act of obedience to the Word of God we must call on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.

Part 1 of 2 If we can agree that the church age began on the day of Pentecost and that the Bible never lies, then we have a foundation in which to build. I will try and sum this up for the both of you. Jesus said it, Peter clarified what Jesus meant on the day of Pentecost and the church age began. There is no where in the Bible where when the church began that anybody was baptized with the preacher calling on the name of titles, such as Father, Son, Holy Ghost while submerging someone in water. The preacher that did the baptizing called on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. The correct baptism is so important that 12 men had to be rebaptized, Acts 19 1 thru 7.

Hello to Lois and Ar, Unfortunately all of my comments do not get printed at the same time in which they are wrote. This is why I say go to Acts 2 and John 1 and you will read extensive comments on this subject. I am hoping that the rest of my comments will come out for the both of you today.

Ar, Thanks for defending our faith! Like I mentioned in previous comment the Trinity is only one of the basic truths of the bible it is fundamental to the true Christian faith! How many times did Jesus warn the apostles warn us in the bible that there are many false teacher 's and false prophets saying they are of God when they are actually sheep in wolves clothing! After reading other comments from another person it is obvious that they have been told a lie believe it! The bible says we are to test the spirits to see if they are from God or not! We have to be careful be read up on Gods word...

To Evangelist Chatauna Robinson 's remark of 10 7 2014 referring to John chapter 14, please see what Jesus says to His disciples in Matthew ch 28 verse 19 Go ye therefore and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of Father,and of the Son ,and the Holy Ghost.

Ileana Pierra How can you say If you have been baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit..that is not scriptural. ?? When Matthew 28 19 says Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,Its right there...black white!

Part 2 In John 14 8 to 10, Jesus acknowledges he is the Father. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you and yet has thou not known me, Philip? He that hath seen me hath seen the Father and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works . The flesh is a house in which the spirit and soul resides. In 11 Corinthians 5 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation .