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Bear in mind that your spouse is your friend, and your love for them should supercede your love for all others on Earth.

Trials and tribulations is what we go through here and now, when we stand for christ, if we stand for him and his word, its persecution, read what jesus tells his desciples in john 15:18-20. now if you are refering to the tribulation period, we are not in that yet.

To lay down one's life simply means, I would be willing to have the love and courage to stand against evil to save my friends. There is no glory to die for a cause, the glory is in victory over evil, victory over death. What use do you serve if you die, burdening your friends with guilt. To stand in front of a burdened soul, protecting them from evil, that is where you'll find me laying my ground.

This is what I know. God is a spirit and a consuming fire. Jesus is fully God and fully man. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ

The Holy Spirit is invisible.

King James Bible

Hebrews 12:29

For our God is a consuming fire.

Deuteronomy 4:24

For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

John 4:24

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

John 15:26

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. Three persons: all are one God.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

Maybe you'd like to add a KJV Bible to your bookcase?

Blessings, Mishael

I believe it is jesus Christ

Very powerful , the words are if it some

else. Then I apologize

. don't mind me

. The blessed Spirit will maintain the cause of Christ in the world, notwithstanding the opposition it meets with. Believers taught and encouraged by his influences, would bear testimony to Christ and his salvation.( Mathew Henry).

These words are the bow with the arrow that will speak into the soul of man! The fiery darts are the word of God when he says ,"overcome evil with good".

We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us. I am not one who knows the place the word comes from, Any More than I know What it means. The pages of the bible are the true image of who he is! It will also change your image , an mage like unto Him! Who can know the unfathomable works of God, unless he where to read it? Then and only will you experience the power given unto those that love him! Many who wish to know , must give their heart and soul only, to Him that loves you !H.S.

JJ remember John 3: 16 to 21. For God so love the world, that he gave his only begotten son,that whosoever believed in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

For God sent not his son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved

He that believed not is condemned already. Because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten son of God.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, andmenloved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

For every one that depth evil hated the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds maybe made manifest,that they are wrought in god. In response to JJ. John15

I'm unsure which event you are referring to. John 15:19 and John 17:14 shows Jesus saying, that people would hate us (followers of Christ) because we're not like them (of the world) - we don't behave or follow their ways.

But if you're writing about some worldly affairs that we should not be a part of, then you are correct to a point. God has given us the privilege of living in a World prepared for our habitation & enjoyment. There will be many things happening within 'our world' & 'outside our world' of significance. And we will have to deal with all those things, not just with our minds, but also our decisions on how to act. I'm unsure if you are thinking of any specific aspect of worldly affairs but I believe we can be involved in some way with the actions of local/federal government, or against the evils going on around us, or just being salt & light in those dark areas bringing out the light & beauty of Kingdom life. There will be things that the world does that will hold no interest to us or will add nothing to our faith & walk with the Lord (such as their worldly pleasures & pursuits); we can overlook & avoid such things & not clutter our minds & lives with them.

However, you may be thinking of something else or some Scripture that brings out your thoughts.

John 15:19

If you were of the world, the world would love his own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world Hates you.

> You're not doing anything wrong that makes people persecute you. They just hate "who" is inside of you.

When people encounter someone who produces the fruit of the Holy Spirit, they are attracted and repelled at the same time. You're, kind, thoughtful, energetic. They also feel conviction about the sins they try to hide within themselves.

Now satan has you on the defensive and he has almost rendered you unable to bear the rejection of Christ inside of you. Realize who it is that is trying to shut you down so you can protect that tender Christ loving heart inside of you; that beats for lost souls.

Get mad at the right person (satan) and get back to what you love.

I'm really sorry this happened to you. Myself, I used to be naive. Now I'm naive with Wisdom. When you help someone out a long period of time, like you did. They sorta know it's not fair to you, and you should help others with needs too. I think it's subconscious; they wiggle out of the bond to feel less guilty of holding you back.

Just forgive them ok. May the Lord bless your faithfulness and show you how much He truly loves you. Book of Joel 2:28-29, Galatians 3:28. A handmaiden and daughter of the Lord.

To Christine Knight from Mishael: 1 Cor. 13

> I want to encourage you and perhaps change your confession. I was thrilled when the Holy Spirit cleared my misconceptions about my memory. At that time my mother was presenting with dementia. That day I was asking: "scientists say that we only use 10 percent of our brains." Why can't we have more memory (like a computer)?

I got quiet and waited a long time. Finally, the Holy Spirit said: "you have the Mind of Christ." I scrambled for the Bible to look that up.

1 Corinthians 2

14 But the NATURAL man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. (We must be born again)

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But WE HAVE the MIND OF CHRIST.

> Jesus teaches us the meaning of scripture through the Holy Spirit. That is part of his ministry to us. Always ask Him to teach you.

IF we are born again, and have RECEIVED the Holy Spirits's Baptism?

John 14:16

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

John 14:26

But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 15:26

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

John 16

8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world (Satan), is judged.

SEE PART 2>>>>

The simple explanation of it: there are 3 groups of people on earth:

Unbelieving Gentiles, Pagans

Gentiles (all born again people, no matter their nationality or church affiliation.). Grafted into the Vine (Christ) by faith.

The Jewish People. In covenant with God ( Genesis 15). In Genesis 32:28, 30

Jacobs NAME was changed to ISRAEL.

Much of what scholars know about Israel's ancient history comes from the Hebrew Bible. According to the text, Israel's origins can be traced back to Abraham, who is considered the father of both Judaism (through his son Isaac) and Islam (through his son Ishmael).

Abraham's descendants were thought to be enslaved by the Egyptians for 400 years before settling in Canaan, which is approximately the region of modern-day Israel.

When World War I ended in 1918 with an Allied victory, the 400-year Ottoman Empire rule ended, and Great Britain took control over what became known as Palestine (modern-day Israel, Palestine and Jordan).

The British controlled Palestine until Israel, in the years following the end of World War II, became an independent state in 1947.

God set His love on Israel. The unsaved world Hates Israel for that one Reason. Armageddon will be fought for that same reason. Then this world will end. Don't be left behind.

John 15:18-19. If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Mishael

pruning is not always good but the results are out of this world,jesus with the fig tree it was cursed because it had not fruit . barring fruit is nessasary,for all of us.the cutting dont feel good,but we need not be the fig tree syndrome and have no use for yourself and the world...

I hope you find cheer in the LORD's promises:

The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? ( Psalm 27:1) - Recommend to read the whole psalm.

The LORD taketh pleasure in them that fear him, in those that hope in his mercy. ( Psalm 147:11)

If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. ( John 14:15-18)

If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. ( John 15:18-19)

Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. ( 2 Timothy 2:19)

Wendall, may the Spirit grace you with understanding, the scriptures referring to the leaves of the tree are in Isaiah 6 and Ezekiel 47 and Revelation 22. These are prophesies about the Sons of God (us). Christ is the Tree of Life; therefore, we also become trees (of life). John 15: Abide in me and I in you. At our physical death we (children or the resurrection) shall put on Christ (BECOME ONE). 1 Corinthians 6:2-3 ......the saints shall judge the world......know ye not that we shall judge angels... the leaves (us) of the TREE (Christ) shall be for the healing of the nations (all mankind).

Psalms 22:27 All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the saviour of all men, specially those that believe.

1 Corinthians 2:9 For it is written ( Isaiah 64:4), Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath entered into the heart (mind) of man, the things God hath prepared for them that love him.

Hi David W Black,

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I agree that Cain inherited his sinful nature from Adam. Before Adam & Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good & evil they knew no sin because they were made in the image of God. It was only after they ate from the tree that they new good & evil.

Jesus is our role model on how we [should] live. [If] it was [impossible] for us to [sin no more] then Jesus wouldn't of commanded us to [do] it.

John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: [sin no more], lest a worse thing come unto thee.

John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and [sin no more].

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we [keep] his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

John 15:10 [If] ye [keep] my commandments, ye [shall] abide in my love; even as I have [kept] my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, [if] we [keep] his commandments.

Leviticus 22:31 Therefore shall ye [keep] my commandments, and [do] them: I am the LORD.

John 14:15 [If] ye love me, [keep] my commandments.

Leviticus 26:3 [If] ye walk in my statutes, [and keep] my commandments, and [do] them;

Numbers 15:40 That ye may remember, and [do] [all] my commandments, and [be holy] unto your God.

Deuteronomy 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, [and keep all] my commandments [always], that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!



Proverbs 7:2 [Keep] my commandments, and [live]; and my law as the apple of thine eye.

Exodus 20:6 And shewing mercy unto [thousands] of them that [love me], [and keep] my commandments.

Deuteronomy 5:10 And shewing mercy unto [thousands] of them that [love me] [and keep] my commandments.

Deuteronomy 11:27 A blessing, [if] ye [obey] the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day.

When I read the words.."If ye were of the world, the world would love his own" I hear the devil in replace of "his". For I know the world we live in is the devils.

Understanding our relationship to God seems impossible when we consider the omniscience of the almighty! With this in mind ,we hear Christ words "abide in me", this reason, for the sin that separates us, keeps us from Him! Sin is baggage , a detour before and behind us, moving us in directions that are outside His will for us! Like nature from the day we are born, we are dying all the time! "Heaven and earth shall pass away, my words shall remain forever." Seasons change, but return renewed again, only to start their work again. Christ tells us to abide in His vine, bringing forth fruit. That without Him we will be gathered as dead branches and thrown into the fire. This fruit he speaks of is His righteousness, given to us through faith found perfect in His nature! If we are to grow and enter into his kingdom, we cannot see the kingdom, or hear it without Him! When you except Him and start living in Him, you will see what he has in store for you! Eternal life! A kingdom without end! Given to us, because of His love for the world! ( John 3:16.)

We can worship anytime, any day....still doesn't excuse not keeping the Saturday sabbath as much as we can. Jesus and his apostles kept the sabbath.

John 15:10

"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."

God Bless.

What is intriguing, about mathew,Mark,andLuke, is that because they do not read exactly the same, there must be an underlying reason the holy spirit is accomplishing. Man defines as one of the three persons in the holy trinity as being the holy spirit. Even tho we do not see Him ,He is very distinct in the sanctification of the reader! This is why Peter says that (the scripture) is of no private interpretation. This process takes time and that time equates differently with each one of us! This configuration or revelation corresponds with ones oneness with the Holy Spirit.When we are confronted with trials and situations which separate us from the word , it could be considered that these spaces in our growth are not unlike the spaces we find in the synoptic gospels, Not unlike a painting that comes together. I have often wondered why my recollection , or remembrance seem complicated, only to come to knowing that the Holy Spirit is at work. The love of Christ that surpasses all understanding, keep your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.

No one is. Yet while we was still sinners He died for us.

Truly I am not worthy

Fred Scanlan,

Well spoken.

Love God, Love your neighbor

We all need to find more love, tolerance, and patience in our lives for others.

John 15:13

My words - My doctrine, my commandments.Abide in you - Not only are remembered, but are suffered to remain in you as a living principle, to regulate your affections and life.Practically and experimentally, if you adhere steadfastly to the doctrine which I have taught you, firmly believing my declarations, conscientiously obeying my precepts, and affectionately embracing and relying on my promises; ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Psalm 22

Isaiah 53

Mathew 26:2 Mathew 26:14-16 Mathew 26:21 Mathew 26:31 Mathew 26:47-50

John 15:15

James 2:22-23

John 8:39-40

Hope this helps your question.

The Bible is clear in the fact that we can only prosper and be in good health if our ways PLEASE God and we strive continuously to be like Jesus dying daily pressing towards heaven with all our heart.

John 15:7

If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.

King James Bible: If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Christian Standard Bible: If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be done for you.

SO, if your lifestyle pleases God and you live 24/7 for God and you seek first the kingdom of God ( matthew 6:33) then above ALL things you will prosper and be in good health. God cannot work with someone luke warm, he will vomit them from him ( Revelation 3:16)

40. Resurrection and the Life - "Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die." John 11:25

41. The Door - "I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture." John 10:9

42. The Way - "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

43. The Word - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1

44. True Vine - "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser." John 15:1

45. Truth - "And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." John 8:32

46. Victorious One - "To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne." Rev. 3:21

47 - 50. Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders.

And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." Is. 9:6

All thisand so much more.

He alone is worthy.

Jesus.

After all the "discussion" over the weekend about Jesus's name ( Yeshua, Messiah, etc)

He's worth so much more than to be an object of disagreements. Am I the only one who felt like crying?

Mishael

Paul is telling us to grow up. He told the Corinthians in chapter 3 that they were babes and could not handle meaningful doctrine while they were still carnally minded. Then in chapter 12 their self serving focus on the gifts was actually hindering the intended use of them which is to build up the body of Christ. He then shows them the better, mature way which is charity.

Charity is essentially what Jesus commanded in John 13:34-35, "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."

Also in John 15:12-13, "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." (Which incidentally points to the Cross.)

Ephesians 4:11-16 gives a fuller development of this necessary work of edifying the body, that we henceforth be no more children...

Truth in the Scripture

John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If ANY man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And WHOSOEVER will, let him take the water of life freely.

Matthew 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Brother please think about this. Our Lord Jesus have twelve disciples whom later known as epistles. Except one, St John all other disciples are killed by enemies of Lord. We are not above epistles. John 15:20 - Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you : if they have kept my saying they will keep yours also. Also Moses redeemed Israel through the plagues. Noah and family saved through the floods. Nowadays we believers are going through great tribulations.

Jeffrey, Thin logic? Scripture is thin logic?

The Holy Ghost is called God, Jesus is God and the Father is also.

Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to LIE to the HOLY GHOST, and to keep back part of the price of the land? ...thou hast not lied unto men, but unto GOD.

Each Person of the Godhead SPEAKS AUDIBLY in the Bible--

God the Father SAID of Jesus in Matthew 3:17 ..."This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

Jesus SAID in John 10:30, " I and my Father are one."

The Holy Ghost SAID in Acts 13:2, ..."Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them."

Genesis 1:26-27, And God said, LET US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness...So God created man in his own image, in the image of God [not angels. the "us" can only refer to God.] created he him;

In the Old Testament, we find that God has a Son ( Proverbs 30:4, Psalm 2:7-12) and a Spirit ( Isaiah 40:13, 2 Samuel 23:2, Judges 3:10, etc.).

I Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

The Godhead and salvation.

The Holy Ghost reproves us, teaches us, guides us and testifies of Jesus Christ.

John 14:26, But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, HE shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, HE shall testify of me: