GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
Precious Dan:
" Mark 16:14-17 So, yes Jesus does confirm that we must believe and be baptized! Amen"
God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:
(1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!
The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +
B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)
Prophecy/Law
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:
(2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:
Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:
Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) --------------------------------------------------
Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.
So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!
Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?
Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!"
GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
Precious friend, Meaningful Questions: "does that mean I don't have to be baptized?...I don't want to do something just because everyone else does." This is A Very Good Point!
Two things concerning "water baptized to be {or not to be} saved":
(1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!
The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +
B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16) Prophecy/Law
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:
(2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST: Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)
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Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.
So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!
Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! So, Meaningful Questions, we don't do it "Because Everyone Else is" {disobeying God, In Confusion?} Amen?
Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
More Relevant water baptism Discussion is here: Link
GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
Clayton, Precious friend. Two things concerning "baptized to be saved":
(1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!
The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)
+
B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)
Prophecy/Law
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:
(2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:
Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.
So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!
Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?
Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
Mark, Precious friend, there is NO water baptism, today, Under God's GRACE. ie:
Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then, we have to find out WHICH of the Many Various "denominational traditions" is the Correct one, Correct?
However, IF God Says "NO," as I believe All Scripture Shows below, then "yes" is OUT of the question, yes?:
"Summary study" on this Important Issue:
Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!
The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)
+
B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)
Prophecy/Law
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:
Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:
Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE OR, EQUALS TWO?
Is it not Possible That God's Answer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely vanquishes the {Many Severely DIVIDED denominations?} Confusion into oblivion!? Also, "...we walk By FAITH, Not by sight..." ( 2 Corinthians 5:7) Amen?
Mark, Precious friend, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
Gerald, my Precious friend, I'll take your question "2: How should we be baptized?" Better
is to first ask: Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then find out "how."
IF not, then no need to find that out, Correct? Here is my "Summary study" on this Important Issue:
Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!
The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli"priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)
+
B) WITHThe Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16) Prophecy/Law
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things ThatDiffer!:
Mystery/GRACE! =our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:
Paul WasNot Sent to water baptize! Why Not?:
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,Spiritually Identifying members Into The ONE Body Of CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) MYSTERY/GRACE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONEOR, EQUALS TWO?
Is it not Possible That God'sAnswer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely "Solves" theMany Severely DIVIDED denominations' Confusion!?
Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
Is everything we see and believe from the media true about covid? Would we trust this info with our lives? What if it wasn't true?
Unfortunately in this current culture people are attacked and shamed for asking basic questions. Would someone telling the truth normally be afraid of questions? Can't the truth hold up to respectful scrutiny?
I do not trust what I see and hear in the news or on TV. There have been too many lies already told and there's no credibility left.
First the origin of the corona virus was denied that it came from the corona virus lab. We were supposed to believe it came from a wet market, rather than the exact lab the US helped fund to make strong viruses. Why anyone would be funded to do that in I have no idea, as it just seems irresponsible.
Next, you were told to stay at home and wear masks. Public parks were closed. Fresh open air is the best thing for people but it was closed. The masks then cause bacteria buildup and people inhale the bacteria into their lungs causing pneumonia which is deadly. But even though the holes in a mask are larger than the size of the virus and even though people can have some CO2 buildup and adverse health effects and even though science doesn't support masks, no one questions the masks.
Next, the CDC lied about the death count. They admit in fine print only 6% died from covid, then they reduced it to 5%, now 2.5%. Then strangely all flu deaths went away because they counted them as covid.
Then you have an antidote- HCQ and Ivermectin which have been tested by tens of thousands with no adverse side effects. But most doctors banned it. If anyone wants to get it you still can through speakwithanmd dot com. You can see all the studies at c19hcq dot com and click on ivermectin at the top.
Then you have an experimental untested non-FDA-approved injection they call a 'vaccine' rushed to market. Now tens of thousands of people died from it, but the media never admits it. It's buried on the VAERS reporting system. Lies. Sick. Evil. Satanic. These must be the end times!
Brother Forest, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
Do you think Christ feels like a ROBOT.
Do you think his Father feels unloved because he CAUSES Jesus to love him.
Jesus said HIMSELF; of myself I CAN DO NOTHING. ( John 5:30) ( John 18:28)
Jesus said HIMSELF; ye (man) can do NOTHING YOURSELF ( John 15:5)
Philippians 2:13 For it is God who WORKETH in you BOTH TO WILL and DO of HIS GOOD PLEASURE.
We make thousands of choices each day; but every choice has a CAUSE that made us make that choice, and that CAUSE is God.
God CANNOT be Sovereign and man have FREE WILL.
Ephesians 1:11 ...being predestined (everything is chosen for you) according to the PURPOSE of HIM (GOD) who WORKETH ALL THINGS after the counsel of HIS WILL.
FREE WILL is the wisdom of this world that God calls FOOLISHNESS.
It is really easy to rest IN CHRIST when you BELIEVE HIS WORDS.
Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fullness of times he might gather together IN ONE ALL THINGS IN CHRIST, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth, IN HIM.
1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be Saviour of the world.
You cannot be Saviour of the world without SAVING THE WORLD.
Brother Richard, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
I BELIEVE; also, in Christ is THE LIFE, you never die. Contrary to this you die. The wages of sin (UNBELIEF) is death.
John 18:24 I say therefore unto you, you shall die in your sins: for if you BELIEVE NOT that I am HE (LIFE, WAY, TRUTH) you shall die in your sins.
John 6:50 This is the bread that cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof and NEVER DIE.
John 11:26 And whoever liveth and believeth IN ME shall never die.
Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Blessed are the dead (we are dead in our trespasses) which die IN THE LORD from henceforth; Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may REST (in Christ) from their labours; and their works (of Christ in you, LIFE) may follow them.
I BELIEVE there are two deaths: now in Christ or later in Christ (second death)
I BELIEVE there are two resurrection: now in Christ or later in Christ at the second resurrection.
I BELIEVE there are two judgements: now in Christ (spiritual FIRE) or later in Christ (spiritual FIRE) at the second resurrection and second death.
The word says the wicked want live out half their life (the ONLY life is CHRIST); we don't see this now so possibly it means they will lay in the grave for a long time, or judgement in Christ will be much longer than we go thru in our short lifetime or both.
Philip Christian Parks on John 18:18 - 3 years ago
Who were these "officers" recorded in John 18:3?
These particular band and officers were not Roman soldiers. These were Jewish temple officers and their band of subordinates employed by temple officials to enforce the proper entrance and behavior of the Jews' activities when on the temple's campus, or in the temple's structures, and certainly within the temple proper.
Compare the expression "the captain of the temple" (Ac. 4:1; 5:24, 26) identifying the Jewish officer appointed to preserve the temple's sanctity.
Rome did not involve its legionary officers and captains in such Jewish matters, nor would the Jews care to have such Roman Gentile involvement. Rome seldom involved herself in mitigating Jewish disagreements concerning their laws and traditions. Pilate so much as said so when Caiaphas delivered JESUS to Pilate for judgment ( Jn. 18:31): "Take ye HIM, and judge HIM according to your law."
The following explanatory exegesis substantiate that this band and officers were Jews:
1st, they were "from the chief priests and Pharisees" (v.3) and "of the Jews" (v.12). Roman officials would not humiliate themselves into Jewish servitude in such fashion. Doing so would be tantamount to the conquerors serving the conquered.
2nd, John 7:28 and 32 reveals the employment of Jewish officers to accomplish temple tasks and missions. There, CHRIST taught in the temple (v. 28) when "the Pharisees and the chief priests sent officers to take HIM" (v.32). The Pharisees and the chief priests would never send heathen Gentile Roman military officers into the temple for any reason.
Philip Christian Parks on John 18:18 - 3 years ago
The identity of the "officers" recorded in John 18:3 (continued) =
3rd, the officer that "struck JESUS" (v.22) was just "one of the officers" in this plurality. He was in the close and immediate presence, company, and service of the High Priest (v.19). This officer was a Jew because the high priest would not have allowed a Gentile Roman military soldier (officer) in such close quarters for fear of ceremonial defilement (v.28).
Ironically, this officer and his fellow officers may have previously voiced another opinion concerning CHRIST: "Never man spoke like This Man" ( Jn. 7:46).
4th, the officer that struck JESUS (v.22) was a Jew because he thought JESUS disrespected the high priest. A Gentile Roman military officer would consider this confrontation a trivial insult between Jews and would not bother inserting himself in such matters.
5th, the Jews greatly feared potential ceremonial defilement during the Passover (v.28). Therefore, they exercised great care to avoid Gentile contact. These officers were Jews because contact was not a defilement issue (see vv. 3, 12, 18, and 22).
6th, John 19:6 clearly prove the nationality of these officers as Jews. There, the verse implies the officers stand with the chief priests and join their murderous rage demanding Pilate to crucify CHRIST.
7th, Roman military personnel simply would not serve the Jews by accomplishing or enforcing their religious mandates. Rather the reverse would occur. When CHRIST said, "Whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain" ( Mt. 5:41), HE referred to Gentile Roman officials who abused their authority by oppressing the Jews into menial governmental service, usually by delivering posts and dispatches, or by forcing Jews to carry their military and personal packs and equipment. Forcing Simon of Cyrene to bear CHRIST's cross is a Scriptural example of such compelling ( Mt. 27:32; Mk. 15:21; Lu. 23:26).
Explain to me in a paragraph exactly what you are saying about Revelation, heaven and earth? Above and below during the 6th-7th trumpets? What do we do if it starts to get bomby outside? Can you conceptualize your thoughts to what you personally envision, and share that? The only scripture you listed that supports your stance is John 18:36, but you are taking Jesus out of context; He is speaking about His current reality, he's restrained. The rest of the scriptures carry little weight to substantiate a claim.
You claim this:
"no part of revelation is going to occur in the physical sense.
revelation is spiritual warfare for the kingdom of heaven.
revelation is completely symbolic."
I always counted the 7th trumpet "saints" as those resurrected in Christ. The earthly army of a transfigured Jesus Christ in His bright glory taking over the earth. It doesn't seem symbolic for God to have to go to all these lengths to do exactly as he has written, but he does so to fulfill prophesy, on earth. Earl, I'm not persuading you to change your mind, I'm just glad to be talking to you.
Why would God promise David that he would never lack a king sitting on his throne till Christ comes if the earth isn't going to be rewarded, renewed. Jesus Christ has an earthly throne to come down to.
"Then I will establish the throne of thy kingdom upon Israel for ever, as I promised to David thy father, saying, There shall not fail thee a man upon the throne of Israel." 1 Kings 9:5
Without the 3 evil spirits, we can be born again, saints.
Looking forward to your rundown of this age.
"no part of revelation is going to occur in the physical sense.
revelation is spiritual warfare for the kingdom of heaven.
Darren, may the Spirit grace you with his wisdom and his understanding.
I'm not sure you understand the kingdom of heaven.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey them.
Luke 20: 35-36 But they who shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
(vs 36) Neither can they die anymore: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Revelations symbolizes how you obtain that world and the judgement the saints will bring upon the earth.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do you not know that the saints shall judge the world?
Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them the judgement written: this honour has all his saints.
Revelation 2:26-27 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works until the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
(vs 27) And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers, even as I received of my Father.
Revelation 3:9 Behold I will make of them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews (circumcised in the heart), and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Those in the kingdom of heaven are those who are going to rule over the earth symbolized in Revelation and explained in the prophets.
Hey Stewart, Sorry for any confusion. If you study from Matthew 21-28, Mark 11-15Luke 19-22 John12-13 This covers after Jesus rode into Jerusalem to when he was crucified. You can study and decide for yourself what day Jesus was crucified. Remember a Jewish day starts and ends at sundown. Here is a few verses may help. Read Luke 22:15-16 and John 18:28. One thought if Jesus was crucified on Wednesday the next day would be the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, that would be a holy day and they could have gone to the tomb on Friday.
The day Jesus was crucified is a discussion that should not cause division or confusion so, let the Spirit lead you and the scriptures interpret the scriptures for yourself, what we do is done unto the Lord.
Please consider the following, as you refuse to accept God's 'Life' giving message ( John 18:37).
God unites His people (the believers) by His Spirit ( John 4:24; Eph. 4:3-6,13).
Luke 9:56. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.
Matthew 11:6. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me ( Isa. 8:14; Matthew 13:57; 24:10; 26:31; Rom. 9:32; 1 Cor. 1:23; 2:14; Gal. 5:11; 1 Peter 2:8).
John 3:19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Luke 11:22. But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.
1 John 4:4-6. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he than is in the world. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice ( John 8:47; 18:37).
You search the scriptures for in them ye think that ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life ( John 5:39,40).
He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged by no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true ( Proverbs 1:7; 10:8,21; 12:15; 13:20; 14:9; 16:22; 18:2; 20:3; 29:11; Luke 18:10-14; Cor. 1:20; 2:14; 15:36).
We regret that you are not able to understand any of the above ( 1 Cor. 2:14; 2 Cor. 7:10). Notwithstanding: Seek and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
Don't let your self-righteousness stand in the way of your salvation ( Romans 10:2-4).
Please consider the following, as you refuse to accept God's 'Life' giving message ( John 18:37; Hebrews 12:25).
God unites His people (the believers) by His Spirit ( John 4:24; Eph. 4:3-6,13).
Luke 9:56. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.
Matthew 11:6. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me ( Isa. 8:14; Matthew 13:57; 24:10; 26:31; Rom. 9:32; 1 Cor. 1:23; 2:14; Gal. 5:11; 1 Peter 2:8).
John 3:19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Luke 11:22. But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.
1 John 4:4-6. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he than is in the world. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice ( John 8:47; 18:37).
You search the scriptures for in them ye think that ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life ( John 5:39,40).
He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged by no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true ( Proverbs 1:7; 10:8,21; 12:15; 13:20; 14:9; 16:22; 18:2; 20:3; 29:11; Luke 18:10-14; Cor. 1:20; 2:14; 15:36).
We regret that you are not able to understand any of the above ( 1 Cor. 2:14; 2 Cor. 7:10). Notwithstanding: Seek and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
Don't let your self-righteousness stand in the way of your salvation ( Romans 10:2-4).
In Genesis 22 :7-8 Isaac askAbraham his father where is the lamb Abraham said my son God will provide HIMSELF A lamb
IN Exodus 12 God gives the times and the orders of the passover lamb (Jesus)
Look at Exodus 12 :2 God starts time over to the beginning this is prophecy if you will perceive it
My interpretation is God StartsTime over here so we would know that when the true final passover lamb Jesus comes Time will start over and it did
And look at the Fulfillment of God will provide HIMSELF a Lamb
John chapter 1 verse 29 Behold the lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world God Brings is on lamb Jesus in to his own house 2chronicles 3:1 on the 10th day of Nissan And Inspected Him ( Luke 6:7)Till the 14th day and judged Him ( John 18:28)by the law and by the religion of the day And Pilate said I FIND NO FAULT IN THE MAN NO BLEMISH NO SIN Luke 23:1-3
And it is still the 14th Till 6 o'clock
And crucified Him Outside of God's house the city Jerusalem at evening 3 clock Exodus 12:6
Matthew 27:37 And set up over His Head His accusation written THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS (God's Name Tag on His LAMB) And ROSE UP 3 days later on the 17th day
Hebrews 9:12 Took His Own BLOOD and Entered in ONCE into The HOLY PLACE (THE THRONE OF GOD) having OBTAINED ETERNAL REDEMPTION for us
John 14:29 (Jesus said) And now I have told you BEFORE IT COMES to pass that WHEN IT IS COME TO PASS YE MIGHT BELIEVE
This may or may not help you it is a point of view that you may have already Studied
Prophesy on Judas Iscariot39s Betrayal Against Jesus on Revelation 4 - 4 years ago
Acts 1:10-20
This took place in a Upper Room. A prophesy Peter found about Judas Iscariot is discussed by the disciples. They are about to appoint a new 12th disciple.
I believe the Holy Spirit showed Peter of the prophesies about Judas Iscariot's betrayal. Jesus knew of the prophesy; He's God. It would explain lack of closeness with Judas.
The Commentary Page on this website says the prophesy is about Judas Iscariot.
This is one of those studies that you have to read at a snails pace, all of the center column references to get a clearer picture of prophesy with present circumstances.
I'm going to list the passages and let the scholars in here piece it together with Holy Spirit, our Helper: helping us rightly divide the Word of Truth.
Acts 1: 10:20
John 18:3
Matthew 26:55-56
Psalms 41:9, 55:23 (The Prophesy)
Isaiah 53:7 (Ch 53 all about Jesus)
Daniel 9:26
Lamentations 4:20
Leviticus 25:15
Deuteronomy 16:9
*when you Google on Judas; just use his last name & it'll get you to the right Judas.
Though the Jews, through unbelief, unjustly demanded the death of Jesus, and the Romans followed through with the wicked plot, the glorious truth is that God himself determined that Jesus would be slain as the sinless Lamb of God for our sins. ( Acts 2:22-24; Romans 4:24-25; Romans 11).
This took place in a Upper Room. A prophesy about Judas Iscariot is discussed. They are about to appoint a new 12th disciple.
I believe the Holy Spirit showed Peter of the prophesies about Judas Iscariot's betrayal.
This is one of those studies that you have to read at a snails pace, all of the center column references to get a clearer picture of prophesy with present circumstances.
I'm going to list the passages and let the scholars in here piece it together with Holy Spirit, our Helper: helping us rightly divide the Truth.
Jesus is the King, so in a very real sense the kingdom has come. However in John 18:36 Jesus answered Pilate, "My kingdom is not of this world...". After his resurrection and ascension to the right hand of God, his kingdom is headquartered in heaven and manifested in today's rebellious world by his church, via the indwelling power of the Holy Ghost ( Ephesians 1:18-23). We enter into his kingdom by believing in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and receiving him as our savior from our sin. In 1st Corinthians 15:24-28 we see the fullness of his kingdom, as we can also see proclaimed in Revelation 11:15-19 and realized in Revelation chapters 20-22.
John Mark was related to the high priest. ( Acts 4:6) John Mark followed Jesus to the high priest's house and was allowed to go in with Jesus into the high priest's house. ( John 18:15) John Mark was wealthy and had a house in Jerusalem where the disciples met ( Acts 12:12) and where Jesus celebrated Passover and that is why John Mark sat at the head of the table next to Jesus. ( John 13:23) John Mark is given the responsibility to take care of Mary. ( John 19:27)
Remember James and John, the sons of Zebedee, are always mentioned together.
Geoff, we certainly can't argue against the 'Truth' you have shared there. Thank you. Praise God for sending the One Who is "the Way, the Truth, and the Life".
Pilate ask "what is truth?" The bible is written for all generations, not forgetting those yet to come. Jesus is being searched by Pilate for understanding on who he is. It's for different reasons than others may search for Jesus. So, when Pilate is asking what is truth, we too may be asking what is truth? Who is Jesus? What are the teachings and examples of Jesus? Asking for learning to be more like Jesus. As we read the bible aren't we searching for understanding and lesson to be learned? The point is, that's not just Pilate asking what is truth, but everyone seeking to know Jesus better asking. The truth is the light of God. "in Him was life, and life was the light of men." Jesus just prayed for us in the previous chapter to be within Jesus and within God, and for Jesus to be within us and God to be within us. So, everyone that hears or in our cases reads his voice is of the truth,we are within Jesus and God.We have the parables explained to us. Let us have ears to hear, eyes to see and hearts to receive. So, truth is God who never lies, and asking what is truth is also us trying to be closer to Truth and hear and know and understand Truth in our own Asking, Seeking and Knocking. And, to be filled with God, Jesus his son our savior and the Holy Spirit our guidance and comforter till Jesus comes again in which is he promised and never lies. And, that's the truth.
Peter you are right it was the Pharisees who had Jesus killed. Why you wonder
Luke 12:1 In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he (Jesus) began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
Matthew 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
Read Matthew 23 sometime and see what Jesus had to say to their man made rules and practices.
John 8 is another eye opener. Jesus hated hypocrisy and traditions that made the Laws of God void.
The chief priests & Pharisees had it in for Jesus right through His ministry.The Gospels are replete with occasions that raised their ire & plots to do away with Him. I will list some of them, but you ask, "the reason that Jesus was arrested". If I could give just one Scripture, it would be John 19:7: the law was that death would be the penalty for blasphemy, so they demanded this sentence from Pilate for Jesus claimed to be God's Son. Other verses in Mark's Gospel that demonstrate their hatred of Jesus: 2:16, 6:3, 2:24, 2:7, 3:6, 3:22, 7:5, 14:53-64. Jesus not only claimed Deity & called them a generation of vipers ( Mt 3:7), but also broke their traditions & accused them of many things.
It was Jewish soldiers -band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, who took Jesus to Caiaphas ( John 18) , But what did the Jews have against Jesus Is there another gospel that explains why they arrested Jesus
" Mark 16:14-17 So, yes Jesus does confirm that we must believe and be baptized! Amen"
God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:
(1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!
The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +
B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)
Prophecy/Law
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:
(2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:
Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:
Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) --------------------------------------------------
Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.
So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!
Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?
Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!"
( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today?)
Two things concerning "water baptized to be {or not to be} saved":
(1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!
The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +
B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16) Prophecy/Law
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:
(2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST: Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)
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Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.
So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!
Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! So, Meaningful Questions, we don't do it "Because Everyone Else is" {disobeying God, In Confusion?} Amen?
Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
More Relevant water baptism Discussion is here: Link
(1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!
The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)
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B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)
Prophecy/Law
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:
(2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:
Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4)
( 1 Corinthians 12:13)
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Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.
So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!
Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?
Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then, we have to find out WHICH of the Many Various "denominational traditions" is the Correct one, Correct?
However, IF God Says "NO," as I believe All Scripture Shows below, then "yes" is OUT of the question, yes?:
"Summary study" on this Important Issue:
Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!
The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)
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B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)
Prophecy/Law
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:
Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:
Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4)
( 1 Corinthians 12:13)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE OR, EQUALS TWO?
Is it not Possible That God's Answer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely vanquishes the {Many Severely DIVIDED denominations?} Confusion into oblivion!? Also, "...we walk By FAITH, Not by sight..." ( 2 Corinthians 5:7) Amen?
Mark, Precious friend, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
is to first ask: Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then find out "how."
IF not, then no need to find that out, Correct? Here is my "Summary study" on this Important Issue:
Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!
The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli"priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)
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B) WITHThe Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16) Prophecy/Law
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things ThatDiffer!:
Mystery/GRACE! =our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:
Paul WasNot Sent to water baptize! Why Not?:
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,Spiritually Identifying members Into The ONE Body Of CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) MYSTERY/GRACE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONEOR, EQUALS TWO?
Is it not Possible That God'sAnswer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely "Solves" theMany Severely DIVIDED denominations' Confusion!?
Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
Is everything we see and believe from the media true about covid? Would we trust this info with our lives? What if it wasn't true?
Unfortunately in this current culture people are attacked and shamed for asking basic questions. Would someone telling the truth normally be afraid of questions? Can't the truth hold up to respectful scrutiny?
I do not trust what I see and hear in the news or on TV. There have been too many lies already told and there's no credibility left.
First the origin of the corona virus was denied that it came from the corona virus lab. We were supposed to believe it came from a wet market, rather than the exact lab the US helped fund to make strong viruses. Why anyone would be funded to do that in I have no idea, as it just seems irresponsible.
Next, you were told to stay at home and wear masks. Public parks were closed. Fresh open air is the best thing for people but it was closed. The masks then cause bacteria buildup and people inhale the bacteria into their lungs causing pneumonia which is deadly. But even though the holes in a mask are larger than the size of the virus and even though people can have some CO2 buildup and adverse health effects and even though science doesn't support masks, no one questions the masks.
Next, the CDC lied about the death count. They admit in fine print only 6% died from covid, then they reduced it to 5%, now 2.5%. Then strangely all flu deaths went away because they counted them as covid.
Then you have an antidote- HCQ and Ivermectin which have been tested by tens of thousands with no adverse side effects. But most doctors banned it. If anyone wants to get it you still can through speakwithanmd dot com. You can see all the studies at c19hcq dot com and click on ivermectin at the top.
Then you have an experimental untested non-FDA-approved injection they call a 'vaccine' rushed to market. Now tens of thousands of people died from it, but the media never admits it. It's buried on the VAERS reporting system. Lies. Sick. Evil. Satanic. These must be the end times!
Do you think Christ feels like a ROBOT.
Do you think his Father feels unloved because he CAUSES Jesus to love him.
Jesus said HIMSELF; of myself I CAN DO NOTHING. ( John 5:30) ( John 18:28)
Jesus said HIMSELF; ye (man) can do NOTHING YOURSELF ( John 15:5)
Philippians 2:13 For it is God who WORKETH in you BOTH TO WILL and DO of HIS GOOD PLEASURE.
We make thousands of choices each day; but every choice has a CAUSE that made us make that choice, and that CAUSE is God.
God CANNOT be Sovereign and man have FREE WILL.
Ephesians 1:11 ...being predestined (everything is chosen for you) according to the PURPOSE of HIM (GOD) who WORKETH ALL THINGS after the counsel of HIS WILL.
FREE WILL is the wisdom of this world that God calls FOOLISHNESS.
It is really easy to rest IN CHRIST when you BELIEVE HIS WORDS.
Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fullness of times he might gather together IN ONE ALL THINGS IN CHRIST, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth, IN HIM.
1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be Saviour of the world.
You cannot be Saviour of the world without SAVING THE WORLD.
I BELIEVE; also, in Christ is THE LIFE, you never die. Contrary to this you die. The wages of sin (UNBELIEF) is death.
John 18:24 I say therefore unto you, you shall die in your sins: for if you BELIEVE NOT that I am HE (LIFE, WAY, TRUTH) you shall die in your sins.
John 6:50 This is the bread that cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof and NEVER DIE.
John 11:26 And whoever liveth and believeth IN ME shall never die.
Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Blessed are the dead (we are dead in our trespasses) which die IN THE LORD from henceforth; Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may REST (in Christ) from their labours; and their works (of Christ in you, LIFE) may follow them.
I BELIEVE there are two deaths: now in Christ or later in Christ (second death)
I BELIEVE there are two resurrection: now in Christ or later in Christ at the second resurrection.
I BELIEVE there are two judgements: now in Christ (spiritual FIRE) or later in Christ (spiritual FIRE) at the second resurrection and second death.
The word says the wicked want live out half their life (the ONLY life is CHRIST); we don't see this now so possibly it means they will lay in the grave for a long time, or judgement in Christ will be much longer than we go thru in our short lifetime or both.
God bless the WORKS OF CHRIST.
Great insight!
These particular band and officers were not Roman soldiers. These were Jewish temple officers and their band of subordinates employed by temple officials to enforce the proper entrance and behavior of the Jews' activities when on the temple's campus, or in the temple's structures, and certainly within the temple proper.
Compare the expression "the captain of the temple" (Ac. 4:1; 5:24, 26) identifying the Jewish officer appointed to preserve the temple's sanctity.
Rome did not involve its legionary officers and captains in such Jewish matters, nor would the Jews care to have such Roman Gentile involvement. Rome seldom involved herself in mitigating Jewish disagreements concerning their laws and traditions. Pilate so much as said so when Caiaphas delivered JESUS to Pilate for judgment ( Jn. 18:31): "Take ye HIM, and judge HIM according to your law."
The following explanatory exegesis substantiate that this band and officers were Jews:
1st, they were "from the chief priests and Pharisees" (v.3) and "of the Jews" (v.12). Roman officials would not humiliate themselves into Jewish servitude in such fashion. Doing so would be tantamount to the conquerors serving the conquered.
2nd, John 7:28 and 32 reveals the employment of Jewish officers to accomplish temple tasks and missions. There, CHRIST taught in the temple (v. 28) when "the Pharisees and the chief priests sent officers to take HIM" (v.32). The Pharisees and the chief priests would never send heathen Gentile Roman military officers into the temple for any reason.
3rd, the officer that "struck JESUS" (v.22) was just "one of the officers" in this plurality. He was in the close and immediate presence, company, and service of the High Priest (v.19). This officer was a Jew because the high priest would not have allowed a Gentile Roman military soldier (officer) in such close quarters for fear of ceremonial defilement (v.28).
Ironically, this officer and his fellow officers may have previously voiced another opinion concerning CHRIST: "Never man spoke like This Man" ( Jn. 7:46).
4th, the officer that struck JESUS (v.22) was a Jew because he thought JESUS disrespected the high priest. A Gentile Roman military officer would consider this confrontation a trivial insult between Jews and would not bother inserting himself in such matters.
5th, the Jews greatly feared potential ceremonial defilement during the Passover (v.28). Therefore, they exercised great care to avoid Gentile contact. These officers were Jews because contact was not a defilement issue (see vv. 3, 12, 18, and 22).
6th, John 19:6 clearly prove the nationality of these officers as Jews. There, the verse implies the officers stand with the chief priests and join their murderous rage demanding Pilate to crucify CHRIST.
7th, Roman military personnel simply would not serve the Jews by accomplishing or enforcing their religious mandates. Rather the reverse would occur. When CHRIST said, "Whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain" ( Mt. 5:41), HE referred to Gentile Roman officials who abused their authority by oppressing the Jews into menial governmental service, usually by delivering posts and dispatches, or by forcing Jews to carry their military and personal packs and equipment. Forcing Simon of Cyrene to bear CHRIST's cross is a Scriptural example of such compelling ( Mt. 27:32; Mk. 15:21; Lu. 23:26).
Explain to me in a paragraph exactly what you are saying about Revelation, heaven and earth? Above and below during the 6th-7th trumpets? What do we do if it starts to get bomby outside? Can you conceptualize your thoughts to what you personally envision, and share that? The only scripture you listed that supports your stance is John 18:36, but you are taking Jesus out of context; He is speaking about His current reality, he's restrained. The rest of the scriptures carry little weight to substantiate a claim.
You claim this:
"no part of revelation is going to occur in the physical sense.
revelation is spiritual warfare for the kingdom of heaven.
revelation is completely symbolic."
I always counted the 7th trumpet "saints" as those resurrected in Christ. The earthly army of a transfigured Jesus Christ in His bright glory taking over the earth. It doesn't seem symbolic for God to have to go to all these lengths to do exactly as he has written, but he does so to fulfill prophesy, on earth. Earl, I'm not persuading you to change your mind, I'm just glad to be talking to you.
Why would God promise David that he would never lack a king sitting on his throne till Christ comes if the earth isn't going to be rewarded, renewed. Jesus Christ has an earthly throne to come down to.
"Then I will establish the throne of thy kingdom upon Israel for ever, as I promised to David thy father, saying, There shall not fail thee a man upon the throne of Israel." 1 Kings 9:5
Without the 3 evil spirits, we can be born again, saints.
Looking forward to your rundown of this age.
"no part of revelation is going to occur in the physical sense.
revelation is spiritual warfare for the kingdom of heaven.
revelation is completely symbolic."
I'm not sure you understand the kingdom of heaven.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey them.
Luke 20: 35-36 But they who shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
(vs 36) Neither can they die anymore: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Revelations symbolizes how you obtain that world and the judgement the saints will bring upon the earth.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do you not know that the saints shall judge the world?
Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them the judgement written: this honour has all his saints.
Revelation 2:26-27 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works until the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
(vs 27) And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers, even as I received of my Father.
Revelation 3:9 Behold I will make of them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews (circumcised in the heart), and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Those in the kingdom of heaven are those who are going to rule over the earth symbolized in Revelation and explained in the prophets.
The day Jesus was crucified is a discussion that should not cause division or confusion so, let the Spirit lead you and the scriptures interpret the scriptures for yourself, what we do is done unto the Lord.
God bless, Ron
Please consider the following, as you refuse to accept God's 'Life' giving message ( John 18:37).
God unites His people (the believers) by His Spirit ( John 4:24; Eph. 4:3-6,13).
Luke 9:56. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.
Matthew 11:6. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me ( Isa. 8:14; Matthew 13:57; 24:10; 26:31; Rom. 9:32; 1 Cor. 1:23; 2:14; Gal. 5:11; 1 Peter 2:8).
John 3:19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Luke 11:22. But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.
1 John 4:4-6. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he than is in the world. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice ( John 8:47; 18:37).
You search the scriptures for in them ye think that ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life ( John 5:39,40).
He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged by no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true ( Proverbs 1:7; 10:8,21; 12:15; 13:20; 14:9; 16:22; 18:2; 20:3; 29:11; Luke 18:10-14; Cor. 1:20; 2:14; 15:36).
We regret that you are not able to understand any of the above ( 1 Cor. 2:14; 2 Cor. 7:10). Notwithstanding: Seek and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
Don't let your self-righteousness stand in the way of your salvation ( Romans 10:2-4).
In His Service.
Andy & Dianne van den Berg
Please consider the following, as you refuse to accept God's 'Life' giving message ( John 18:37; Hebrews 12:25).
God unites His people (the believers) by His Spirit ( John 4:24; Eph. 4:3-6,13).
Luke 9:56. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.
Matthew 11:6. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me ( Isa. 8:14; Matthew 13:57; 24:10; 26:31; Rom. 9:32; 1 Cor. 1:23; 2:14; Gal. 5:11; 1 Peter 2:8).
John 3:19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Luke 11:22. But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.
1 John 4:4-6. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he than is in the world. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice ( John 8:47; 18:37).
You search the scriptures for in them ye think that ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life ( John 5:39,40).
He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged by no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true ( Proverbs 1:7; 10:8,21; 12:15; 13:20; 14:9; 16:22; 18:2; 20:3; 29:11; Luke 18:10-14; Cor. 1:20; 2:14; 15:36).
We regret that you are not able to understand any of the above ( 1 Cor. 2:14; 2 Cor. 7:10). Notwithstanding: Seek and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
Don't let your self-righteousness stand in the way of your salvation ( Romans 10:2-4).
In His Service.
Andy & Diane van den Berg
IN Exodus 12 God gives the times and the orders of the passover lamb (Jesus)
Look at Exodus 12 :2 God starts time over to the beginning this is prophecy if you will perceive it
My interpretation is God StartsTime over here so we would know that when the true final passover lamb Jesus comes Time will start over and it did
And look at the Fulfillment of God will provide HIMSELF a Lamb
John chapter 1 verse 29 Behold the lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world God Brings is on lamb Jesus in to his own house 2chronicles 3:1 on the 10th day of Nissan And Inspected Him ( Luke 6:7)Till the 14th day and judged Him ( John 18:28)by the law and by the religion of the day And Pilate said I FIND NO FAULT IN THE MAN NO BLEMISH NO SIN Luke 23:1-3
And it is still the 14th Till 6 o'clock
And crucified Him Outside of God's house the city Jerusalem at evening 3 clock Exodus 12:6
Matthew 27:37 And set up over His Head His accusation written THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS (God's Name Tag on His LAMB) And ROSE UP 3 days later on the 17th day
Hebrews 9:12 Took His Own BLOOD and Entered in ONCE into The HOLY PLACE (THE THRONE OF GOD) having OBTAINED ETERNAL REDEMPTION for us
John 14:29 (Jesus said) And now I have told you BEFORE IT COMES to pass that WHEN IT IS COME TO PASS YE MIGHT BELIEVE
This may or may not help you it is a point of view that you may have already Studied
May God bless you and your family always
JACKIE
This took place in a Upper Room. A prophesy Peter found about Judas Iscariot is discussed by the disciples. They are about to appoint a new 12th disciple.
I believe the Holy Spirit showed Peter of the prophesies about Judas Iscariot's betrayal. Jesus knew of the prophesy; He's God. It would explain lack of closeness with Judas.
The Commentary Page on this website says the prophesy is about Judas Iscariot.
This is one of those studies that you have to read at a snails pace, all of the center column references to get a clearer picture of prophesy with present circumstances.
I'm going to list the passages and let the scholars in here piece it together with Holy Spirit, our Helper: helping us rightly divide the Word of Truth.
Acts 1: 10:20
John 18:3
Matthew 26:55-56
Psalms 41:9, 55:23 (The Prophesy)
Isaiah 53:7 (Ch 53 all about Jesus)
Daniel 9:26
Lamentations 4:20
Leviticus 25:15
Deuteronomy 16:9
*when you Google on Judas; just use his last name & it'll get you to the right Judas.
This took place in a Upper Room. A prophesy about Judas Iscariot is discussed. They are about to appoint a new 12th disciple.
I believe the Holy Spirit showed Peter of the prophesies about Judas Iscariot's betrayal.
This is one of those studies that you have to read at a snails pace, all of the center column references to get a clearer picture of prophesy with present circumstances.
I'm going to list the passages and let the scholars in here piece it together with Holy Spirit, our Helper: helping us rightly divide the Truth.
Acts 1: 10:20
John 18:3
Matthew 26:55-56
Psalm 41:9, 55:23
Isaiah 53:7 (Ch 53 all about Jesus)
Daniel 9:26
Lamentations 4:20
Leviticus 25:15
Deuteronomy 16:9
Remember James and John, the sons of Zebedee, are always mentioned together.
Luke 12:1 In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he (Jesus) began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
Matthew 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
Read Matthew 23 sometime and see what Jesus had to say to their man made rules and practices.
John 8 is another eye opener. Jesus hated hypocrisy and traditions that made the Laws of God void.