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Hellow brother Doug

Let's read 1 John 1:8-10

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us"

The above says that we commit sins but we are given Jesus' Blood for forgiveness. So what does it mean "dead to sin" and "body of sin destroyed". Howcome the body is dead/ destroyed for sin and still sin? Since scripture cannot conrtadict scripture, I think it means that we (our bodies) are not living a sinful life (staying in sin), that is why it says " live any longer therein". There is a huge difference between one living in sin and one living a pure life but occasionally commit sins, so is given Jesus'Blood to be forgiven and his sin been erased. Hence his life remains pure

Lets see another Scriptute that is often misinterpreted because of a problematic translation.

1 John 3:9 "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God"

If one takes it as it is written in English, he will conclude that believers cannot sin anymore after born again. But here John seems to say the opposite from what he said previously in 1:8-10. Why is this? Because the translation is not right. The greek for what is translated as "commit sin" actually says "committing sin", a continuous present tense ie a continuous situation. In simple words it says that believers cannot live a sinful life since the Word of God (seed) is in them.

Now let's go to our original argument. Has our nature changed when we were born again? My opinion is no. Simply through new birth and baptism in the HS we are dressed with God's grace to help us with our fight against sin.

But to be honest with you I still have some questions in my mind about this.. so we may talk about it later on

GBU

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. [Jesus]

{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first.

Sons of GOD defined = John 1:12, Romans 8:14,

Example = Philippians 2:15,

1John 3:1,2

I've understood it to be similar to Simon called Peter: Matthew 4:18, Matthew 10:2, different than Acts 8:9, & Luke, Acts 10:18, Acts 13:1, Acts 13:9, Acts 14:2, notice in Acts, the same book, there are multiple names referenced even a wind, Acts 27:14, Acts 27:8, Hebrews 11:18,

Matthew 1:6 Jesus called Christ, John 4:25, Luke 6:15, John 1:42, John 11:16, not Colossians 4:11,

Romans 2:17, Romans 7:3, same supposed writer as Acts , also Romans 9:26

Matthew 26:14, Luke 23:33, John 19:13, John 19:17, Acts 6:9, Revelation 11:8,

Revelation 12:9,

Luke 2:4, Luke 8:2, John 21:2, different than Acts 9:11,

Acts 1:23, Acts 9:36,

Colossians 3:15, 1John 3:1,

Hopefully these are all helpful in your study

Hey Clois,

I will try to keep it short; this is my understanding.

We see at the end of Revelation 12 in the original text the dragon is standing on the sand and the first beast comes up out of the sea (abyss/bottomless pit). In Revelation 13 the dragon (Satan) gives this beast his seat, power, and great authority to this beast, and he makes war with the saints and overcomes them. He is given 42 months = 1260 days = 3 years. There is also in the site of this first beast another beast with two horns, the false prophet.

In Revelation 11:3 the two witnesses will prophesy 1260 days the same amount of time as the two beasts (great tribulation) the image people are made to worship, the mark to be able to buy or sell, and the killings of those that reject, (the hour of temptation).

In Revelation 11:7-8 this beast that comes out of the bottomless pit kills the two witnesses in the "city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt," (Jerusalem). This same beast we see in Revelation 9 and Revelation 17.

In Revelation, there are three the dragon (Satan), the first beast, and the false prophet (the second beast). If we go by the description of antichrist the only place in the bible given by John in 1 John 2:18,22 1 John 4:3 and 1 John 1:7 there are billions, not just one.

Hope this helps,

God bless,

RLW

Douglas Borchard,

This prophecy gives the precise time of the first coming of the Messiah. You will receive different understandings of this, it is a study that will take much time. this is just a little information you may use to help your study.

Many put the last week of this prophecy at the end times. It is used for the 7 years of tribulation, a peace treaty with the antichrist (he in verse 27) for 3 1/2 years then 3 years of great tribulation with the taking of the church somewhere between (pre, mid, post).

"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, (70 weeks, 70 x 7 = 490 solar years or 483 prophetic years) on the house of Israel (Daniel's people) and the holy city (Jerusalem). It started from "the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem", make a note, that the rebuilding of the temple is not in this prophecy.

Here are a few verses that may help your study and if this prophecy has been fulfilled or not.

1. To finish the transgression Isaiah 53:5, 8 Isaiah 53:11 Hebrews 9:15-18

2. To make an end of sins Matthew 1:21 Hebrews 10:8-11 John 1:29 1 Corinthians 15:3

1 John 3:5 Psalm 32 Romans 8:3

3. To make reconciliation for iniquity Colossians 1:20-22 Isaiah 53:6 Isaiah 53:11 Ephesians 2:16 ( Titus 2:14 2 Corinthians 5:18-19

4. To bring in everlasting righteousness Romans 5:17-21 Romans 3:21-26 1Peter 2:24

2 Corinthians 5:21 Isaiah 61:10-11

5. To seal up vision and prophecy Daniel 9:23 John 6:27 Mark 1:14-15 Acts 3:18

John 5:36-40 Matthew 11:11-15

6. To anoint the most holy Hebrews 8:1-12 Hebrews 9:6-14

The six things that were determined on Daniel's people and the holy city in this 70-week prophecy; did the Messiah/Jesus fulfill?

God bless,

RLW

The word "Elohim" is the plural aspect of the Godhead. Since God is one; yet is in three forms (Father; Son and Holy Ghost) they were all involved in the Creation. This is why scripture states "let us create man in OUR image" ( Gen. 1:26); and later on states they know good and evil like us ( Gen. 3:22-loosely translated). Christ actually was the one who created all things ( Eph. 3:9); with God involved. Proverbs 8:22-31 seems to show wisdom personified by the Holy Spirit also presiding over things since before the beginning and in the Creation of the earth. (See also John 1:1). "Gods" may be the best way in human understanding to explain the Hebrew translation but it shouldn't imply that there is more than one true God despite 3 manifestations. Even that is imperfect but closer to explaining the mystery of the Godhead.

In practical terms; when we see Christ at the crucifixion; it is clear that the universe itself ( Colossians 1:17) would have ceased to exist at his death if there weren't other members of the Godhead (not to mention that Christ would be praying to Himself).

So the "Oneness" group is clearly offbase. We could say that God the Father came up with the plan of Creation; as well as the Crucifixion ( Isaiah 53:10) and Christ did the action. The Spirit is often in Proverbs personified as "Wisdom" crying out in the streets. It is seen in some sense as "hovering over the waters" ( Gen. 1:2).

The important aspect here is that God in every form is Omnicient; Omnipresent and Omnipotent (All knowing; everywhere; and all powerful). He also will preside as this present world and it's elements are burned up ( 2 Peter 3:10). We can; mercifully rejoice that a new heaven and earth will be for us someday; according to Rev. 22. All the gods (small g) which are in reality representations of demons and or men's vain imaginations will be destroyed as well. God is the Creator; we are His Creation along with all angels and demons. Praise God.

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Matthew 1:23-25

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

Isaiah 7:14

Hebrews 1:8

Isaiah 44:6

Pentecost Apostolic,

I have yet to see anyone here say there are three Gods. I have read, and I agree that God exists in three distinct, co-equal, and co-eternal beings, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. These are not three God's, but one. I agree with you that John 1:1 is referring to Jesus as God. There are many places in scripture that refer to Jesus as God. There are also places that refer to the Holy Spirit as God. But we also have God the Father. Again, not three separate Gods but one.

You bring up Ephesians 4:5, so I would like to comment on that verse. It says, "One Lord, one faith, one baptism." One baptism! I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Paul is not talking about water baptism. It was Paul who said in 1 Corinthians 12:13 that we are all baptized by one Spirit into the body of Christ.

It is a Hebrew phrase that Paul used to describe the salvation process, that when the Holy Spirit comes into a person's life, they are cleansed. It has nothing to do with water baptism. And baptism also means identification. In 1 Corinthians Chapter 10, the people in the wilderness were baptized unto Moses. There wasn't any water baptismal ceremony. But when they identified with him and went through the Red Sea, they called it baptism.

Sons of GOD : Genesis 6:2, Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7, Revelation 12:10, John 1:12 "But as many as receive him, to them gave he power to become the sons of GOD, even to them that believe on his name:"

Romans 8:14 "For as many as are led by the Spirit of GOD, they are the sons of GOD."

Philippians 2:15 "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of GOD, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world."

1John 3:1 "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of GOD: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not."

Matthew 5:16, Luke 8:19, Matthew 23:9, John 20:17, John 4:23, John 16:28, Matthew 6:7-34 did you notice how many times GOD is referenced as "our, your Father " in that portion of chapter 6? Matthew 7:11,

Mark 3:33-35,

1John 3, Romans 8:29,

Contrast = John 8:41-47, 1John 2:23, Matthew 3:9

Hopefully these are all helpful in your study

There is One Lord, One Faith and One Baptism Ephesians 4:5 John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. john 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. There is only One god ( Not Three ) and his name is Jesus. Only One Faith, that we believe and Obey The plan of Salvation Written in the Holy Scriptures, And One Baptism, The Burial in water into the ( NAME ) of Jesus! Not the Titles of father son and holy spirit. Acts 2:38 is the plan of salvation (Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.) We must Believe and Obey This command for this Reason ( Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. If we are to take any part of this word away we make the entire Bible a fairy tale and a lie that nobody will believe, we MUST be BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF ( JESUS ) this is the Command to the NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH! I write this in the hope to see gods will that No Man should perish

Hello, this is a frequently asked question and you can do an advanced search and find lots of discussions about it with verses if you desire.

Here are some verses to get you started. God bless.

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14

Matthew 1:23-25

Hebrews 1:8

Isaiah 44:6

Jan Rene Ann Maudlin:

Exodus 4:13

And he said, O my Lord, send, I pray thee, by the hand of him whom thou wilt send.

1 Corinthians 15:1

Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

1 Corinthians 15:2

By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

1 Corinthians 15:3

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 Corinthians 15:4

And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Revelation 1:5

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

1 John 1:7

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Romans 8:6

For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

1 John 1:7

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Romans 8:14

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans 8:16

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

James 4:7

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

2 Thessalonians 3:3

But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.

Romans 8:9

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

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Exodus 4:13

And he said, O my Lord, send, I pray thee, by the hand of him whom thou wilt send.

1 Corinthians 15:1

Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

1 Corinthians 15:2

By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

1 Corinthians 15:3

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 Corinthians 15:4

And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Revelation 1:5

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

1 John 1:7

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Romans 8:6

For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

1 John 1:7

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Romans 8:14

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans 8:16

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

James 4:7

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

2 Thessalonians 3:3

But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.

Romans 8:9

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Romans 8:15

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Pt.2) The races were separated long ago when GOD first made races on the 6th day; and placed in the lands GOD placed them in. We see remnants of original races that mainly stayed in tack. Like African race set in lower Africa where lived in plush and bountiful jungles; Asian race in Far East where they were water peoples flourished in boats, Egyptians set in upper Africa. All these survived and were untouched by Noah's flood. Chinese were a water peoples from very first and have the oldest historical records. Egyptians-desert peoples, also some of oldest records. The flood of Noah was a regional flood for 1 purpose only; to destroy the abominations from the 7k fallen angels; their goal was to corrupt the Adamic race from which CHRIST was to come. The Adamic race was the one set aside and had to be pure that from umbilical cord to umbilical cord so the WORD could become flesh( John 1:1). Satan tried to corrupt this genealogy by impregnated this seed line starting with Eve. They were called Hebrew ( Gen. 14:13 =meaning "he who crossed the Euphrates"; until Assyrian captivity where they went over the Caucasus Mountains and called Caucasian's ever sense.

I wouldn't agree to that statement, Teresa. Sin, in all its forms, intensities & sneaky ways, somehow manages to affect each one of us so furnished with the sin nature. Even when we think that we might have overcome all sin, we will soon be disappointed to find that we have slipped up somewhere. Anything not of God, not found within His Holiness & Perfection, has the potential to become sin to us when allowed to manifest itself. Many ascetics, monks, & such like have tried to achieve perfection or even a 'nirvana', but have to admit that they have 'slipped up' along the way & perfection is not achievable in this life.

That is why the Apostle Paul, in his letters, teaches & encourages all to crucify the flesh (to put to death sin that comes from our sinful nature with our "affections & lusts") & to live & walk in the Spirit ( Galatians 5:24,25). Sin is always near our 'door', ready to trip us & entrap us - if we're walking in the Spirit, we will be sensitive to sin & its approach, but being human means that we will also fail at times. Our walk will always be one of warfare - of being ever-conscious of sin's insidious ways to attack us. We have been given the Holy Spirit to make us alert to it & also His Armor to combat the enemy ( Ephesians 6:11-18), but all that is of no use, if we want to give in to sin & partake of its temptations. Yet, in all this, God is ready to forgive us when we slip up & He will restore us when we confess our error & seek to live for Him (1 John 1:9).

So even by reading the Bible all day & following the commands of the Lord, we still need to be on the alert because sin is ever ready to rear its ugly head. "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall" ( 1 Corinthians 10:12), is an ever-present reminder never to think that we've made it to perfection, but to "take heed" - to be careful in every aspect of our lives before God.

Hello Becky! Jesus wipes our slate clean when we are saved, but we become sinners saved by grace who need to continue to ask God to forgive us every time we sin--and we born again Christians will sin because it is our nature--we even commit sins unaware and must ask Him to forgive what we don't know we've done wrong. I used to not understand this and was driven by guilt for everything I did, which delutes the power of Jesus' Blood. What I didn't understand lay in this verse Matthew 5:48

"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." I thought I had to be without sin. That's not what that verse means. It does mean for us not to commit deliberate sins like breaking the ten commandments and knowing to do good but doing it not. So you see, 1 John 1:8 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." And 1John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

Being remorseful for our sins is not enough. We must repent. Ever been walking down a sidewalk and decide to turn around a go the other way. That's repenting. We decide not to commit a certain sin ever again. You can quit smoking and all the rest. It's not easy, but you can do it by confessing, repenting, drawing close to Him, and cease fellowshipping with those unbelievers--not shunning them, for you should strive to be a witness to them in conduct and action.

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments." And there is nothing that can keep you from serving him. Romans 8:38,39 "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

God bless!

Isaiah 40:3 (The Prophet)

The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

Mark 1:3

The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

Matthew 3:3

For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. Luke 3:4

As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

John 1:23

He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.

Richard, you are in my prayers tonight. May the presence of the Holy Spirit rest upon you and give you peace and healing tonight, in Jesus name



3 John 1:2

Jeremiah 33:6

Mat 22:39 I here so many question and concerns of are we to love our neighbor/enemies: As always search scripture. one who fallows CHRIST and tries to be a good neighbor you love as you love all Christian brothers who fallow the doctrine of CHRIST. The 1st and greatest commandment is to love GOD with all your heart and soul and if you do you would be a good neighbor. Is upon the head of any head of house to protect you family with your life if need be. Would you let a neighbor walk in your home and abuse 1 of your family? I hope you said no.

Paul wrote: Rom 12:18 Many look over "If it is possible" sometimes it just is not possible to get along and you don't ever let someone run over you. If you have a neighbor that does not love GOD and commits egregious acts against you; he cannot be of GOD but of Satan, 2 John 1:7. Do you love Satan? I hope you said no. Anyone that does not fallow the doctrine of CHRIST we are to not so much as wish them a good day 2 John 1:10. We love our enemies only after they have turned from their sins against you and accept doctrine of CHRIST, 2 John 1:9, not until. CHRIST tells us Math. 10:14 if they do not accept doctrine to turn from them, wiping even their dirt off. If they sin against you and repent and ask for forgiveness then you forgive but if they don't then have nothing to do with them until they do.

Leviticus 19:15-:18 GOD tells us what being a good neighbor is. If he is self-professed Christian (brother) and he breaks these rules then scripture tells us to set him aside until he repents and ask for forgiveness. If he doesn't then vengeance is the Lords. You will be blessed while he has to watch; perhaps he eventually comes to senses an wants the good life you have. But if you are unlucky to get an evil neighbor you best be on guard, Christians are not 2nd class citizens where we allow to be stepped on.

2Th 3:14,15 Mathew 18:15-:20 Romans 16:17 2 Thessalonians 3:6-:14 Luke 17:3,4. Corresponding verses.

Paul would write:

Rom 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

Many look over "If it is possible" sometimes it just is not possible to get along and you don't ever let someone run over you.

If you have a neighbor that does not love GOD and commits egregious acts against you he cannot be of GOD but of Satan, 2 John 1:7. Do you love Satan? I hope you said no. Anyone that does not fallow the doctrine of CHRIST we are to not so much as wish them a good day 2 John 1:10.

Hello Chris,

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

Here it can be confusing to some, But it is distinguishing the Word as being with God (another person of the Godhead) and also that this Word (another person of the Godhead) was also God.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Read these verses.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20 *

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. [Jesus]

I believe you are asking if this is the same WORD in John 1:19Logos) ? who became flesh? If you notice the W in Joh. 1:1 is capitalized giving credence that it indeed is JESUS. The word (Heb. dabar) in Ezekiel is not; so if your question is are the same then no.

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Even in the Bible we read the same in Luke 1:34,35: "Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God." Thus the answer is learned: God gave His message through the angel; God's Spirit overshadowed Mary (or, placed within her womb) God's Holy Special Seed which was to be born into humanity; therefore, "He shall be called the Son of God". As al-Qur'an also states, 'this special Birth is humanity's sign & a revelation of God's Mercy to the world.'

You asked, the meaning of 'begotten'. I hope you can now see what it means, by God's Action: it is not a normal human-type birth, but a 'one of its kind, unique birth from God placing His special Seed into the woman. What was this special Seed? The Bible tells us, that God took His Own Word & sent it forth into the world as a human being (you can read about it in John 1:1-14). Even in Surah 3:45: "Remember when the angels proclaimed, 'O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word from Him, his name will be the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest to Allah." (This Word from God (kalimat'ullah: God's Word), His Name will be the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary).

Hello Orion, so good to meet you here.

I believe that Jesus was using hyperbole to emphasize the gravity and deadly nature of sin. Is it better to enter heaven without a body part that drug one into sin or enter hell with all of our body still intact? I do not think he meant this to be done literally anymore than he meant we should lose our life to gain it by committing suicide or have someone else slay us. He was value of eternal life in Him and the need to trusty in Him to raise us from the dead if we indeed should loose our life. So we should not fear dying as an excuse to not follow God's lead in our life. This is the attitude the apostles and other martyrs had when being severely persecuted for their faith and endured torturous deaths for the sake of not renouncing Christ. We have a sense of self-preservation built into us by God. It is a good thing. But when it comes to a choice between committing grave sin to spare our own life, we are to refuse to do so, thus overriding the self-preservation/survival mode of our being and body.

Paul said, "I die daily". He was not saying he physically died and was resurrected each day, but that he daily put to death the sinful nature by the power of Christ residing in him by the Holy Spirit. I pray to have this attitude like Paul, to be so intent on living a godly life set apart from sin that I access in every circumstance the power over sin that is ours in Christ. But He also knows that we will fail even as we are being further sanctified by the Holy Spirit. That is why John says in 1 John 1:9 that God wis faithful and just and will forgive us when we repent and confess our sins. It is encouraged in Scripture to examine ourselves daily with the "lens" of the Holy Spirit to expose our sins. Therefore, we die daily as we put to death our sinful nature daily through the grace of God that brings both repentance and forgiveness to us. How wonderful is that!

Only with God's power can we cannot overcome sin in our life.

When does God send a man a wife?

Revelations 3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. Jesus told all the churches that he knew their works. If God only saw the righteousness of Christ he could not correct us. 1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. I believe that cleansing us from all sin is actual and covering us from sin implies that it is only imaginary. Our faith is counted(valued) for(as)righteousness. When we disobey God it is because our lack of faith. 1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. I agree that we need to walk in truth.

Dear Gabriel, The Bible says in 1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." Jesus's blood is sufficient to forgive all your sins. You need to forgive yourself and surrender your troubles to Him-- Matthew 11:29 "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls." Take up your cross, deny yourself, throw off your own pain, and follow Him. Only then will you have peace.

Luke 9:23 "And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me."

God Bless you!

Tom,

There is nothing in those three verses that describe a saved person losing their salvation. First of all, an enlightened person does not mean that that person is saved. John 1:9 tells us that every person coming into this world is enlightened to the truth. But everyone does not have the same response to the enlightenment. Some receive Christ, and some don't. Hebrews 6:4-6 is talking about those who were participating with believers, they were being enlightened to the truth, but they walked away from it. It doesn't say anything about them ever surrendering their lives to Christ.

We have people in our churches today, who look, and act, and talk, and believe just like a normal believer. They learn the language and learn the doctrines, and learn the lingo and say "praise the Lord," and they can learn how to put Jesus bumper stickers on their car correctly, and then one day they just disappear.

Did they lose their salvation? No, they were never saved at all and that is why they left. 1 John 2:19 says, "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us."

John says the reason why they left us is because they really were not one of us, because if they were one of us they would have remained with us. This would fit in with Hebrews 6:4-6. Also, if we understand the Parable of the Sower, it helps us to see who the the writer of Hebrews is talking about. They are not saved individuals who lost their salvation. They were there being enlightened to the truth just like everyone else. It's how they responded to that enlightenment. They either received Christ and were saved, or they walked away from that enlightenment, never being saved. And Hebrews 6:4-6 says the fell away. That was their response to the enlightenment. They never got saved.