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"Familiarity breeds contempt." Jesus came back to start his Ministry in his own Home Town. Everybody knew Mary, Joseph (who was now deceased), Jesus's brothers and sisters, the family business

All of a sudden Jesus walks up to the podium, reads Isaiah 61:1, from later named Luke 4:18.

Closes the Scroll and says, "Today in your hearing the scripture is fulfilled."

Of course there was a riot. A hometown boy just said the impossible. They sought to stone Jesus.

If Mary and Jesus's own siblings didn't speak up, no one else would.

Luke 4:43 Jesus left to fulfill his mission; beginning with calling His disciples.

It's always best to read from scripture what was historically happening at the moment. John 1:5

The Word

Immanuel/Emmanuel "with us is God" "God with us". John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. The word dwelt here is not the ordinary word for dwelt, meaning to house, or take residence.

The Greek word dwelt in this verse is skno meaning to tent, tabernacle. God set up His tent or tabernacle among us in His only begotten Son Jesus, therefore Jesus' name Immanuel/Emmanuel. In John 14:1-3, this is just before Jesus was to be crucified when He told them this.

The word mansions is the Greek word , , mon means an abiding, an abode, dwelling-place. When Jesus was arrested, beaten, nailed to that cross, gave His life, and rose from the dead He provided that place that the first Adam corrupted that God through Jesus, by the Spirit can again dwell in man therefore His Name Immanuel/Emmanuel "with us is God" "God with us".

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

John 17:21-23 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Jesus' life in the flesh, death, and resurrection prepared the place where we can be one, therefore His Name Immanuel/Emmanuel "with us is God" "God with us".

Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Earl.

It's funny you have given scriptures to be examined literally!

However.

You have given 6 scriptures and added or taken away from each and misapplied them! What you seem to often put in parentheses is errored!

When confronted you hide behind spiritualation.

I'm not going to deal with all of them but here is an example of your errors.

You say "Job said Satan came in "WITH MAN" to present himself to God."

When has man ever been able to go to and fro the Earth?

When has man ever been able to present himself to God?

Answer. Never!

John 1:18.

John 6:46.

Here's that account in scripture.

Job 1:6. Now there was a day when the SONS OF GOD came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Sons of God in this passage are Angels.

Your view is that Satan is mans flesh. "He doesn't exist"

So who's responsible for Jobs losses? And who is God interacting with in Job 1. ?

I'm sorry but I can't entertain that.

My point is taken in your reply!

If there is no Satan, No hell, and no consequences for sin, There's no Gospel/Good news in your message

why do you passionately bother?

according to you whether we receive or not we suffer the same fate. Why was Christ crucified?

That is not a message from God.

No response needed

God bless.

Helloi Chris I 'll come back to this some other time. GBU

Brother Giannis, thank you for your comment. As a young person attending 'Church', I was taught that Jesus was always in Heaven (from the beginning), a part of the Trinity (therefore in spirit form), & was sent to Earth to become Man to fulfil God's Plan. I think you're saying the same thing but adding that since God's Word came to the people, Jesus was also called the "Word of God".

Ordinarily, I would agree with that view. But in studying the Scriptures, the following convinces me to believe differently.

John 1:1 (He was never known by this Name Jesus - only that the Word existed within the Godhead, just as the Holy Spirit exists).

John 1:14 (that Word was given flesh - the Word's Form was changed from Spirit to flesh).

Matthew 1:21 (that humanly birthed Babe would be called Jesus - a Name not used or known before in Heaven but now given to this new Life on Earth, coming as 'Yahweh is Salvation').

Luke 1:35 (the first title used of this Babe: "The Son of God". I don't find this revealed anywhere else in the Scriptures (OT) that the Son of God existed in Heaven (i.e. as a Son) - He only became a Son through His Incarnation).

Hebrews 1:1,2 (as God's Word was given to Israel via the prophets, so through His Son now God speaks to them & us. The same Word of God: once to the prophets, now the Word made flesh to speak, not as a prophet, but as the Son of God, God's Word in the flesh).

From all this, I don't deny the existence of Jesus in Heaven before the incarnation, but don't find evidence that He was called Jesus (in Heaven) or functioned as He did on Earth while in Heaven. Rather, I'm compelled to accept "there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one" ( 1 John 5:7). The Word that always was within the Godhead is now Jesus seated as the Lord in flesh at His Father's right Hand.

Giannis,

I agree with your view. The Word has always been the eternal Son of God, eternally begotten by the Father. The Father spoke through the Son at creation and it is the Son who has spoken to mankind over the ages, both prior to the incarnation and after. Hebrews 1 speaks to this. The exceptions are at Jesus' (the Word) baptism and transfiguration, where the Father spoke from heaven concerning His Son, Jesus.

Hi Chris, just a thought..

Is it because the immaterial literal Word of God became the man Jesus, or a person of the Trinity that became man was named Word just because through this person the Word of God was revealed to people? I tend to believe the latter although many Christians tend to believe the former. GBU

Amen Brother Chris:

Christ reveals himself, and he is LIFE and TRUTH, to each of us in HIS appointed time.

Man (a Body) cannot exist apart firm God's Life.

It's Christ's indwelling that gives us LIFE.

Christ ascended INTO HEAVEN (the new creation).

Christ ascended into MAN, at the fight hand of the Father.

A ONE on ONE, union.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (the ONLY LIFE) who worketh in you (HIS BODY) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD and Father (the LIFE) of ALL ....

Till we all come into UNITY

God Bless YOU!

Word,G3056; W in Word is capital showing omnipototentency of GOD=Gr. logos

The divine purpose in the gospel of John is to present the LORD JESUS as GOD. This is the one great feature and difference from this gospel and the others. John's writings always point to the deity of Yeshua. Johns presentation of the LORD as having the divine attribute of omniscience, not to say the other gospels does not point to this but the Gospel of John it is much more frequent. WORD (Gr.Logos) portrayed by John as GOD - a Spirit of infinity, Eternal, Perfect, Almighty, Omnipotent. John was the disciple that Jesus loved and wrote John, 3 epistles and also Rev. -GOD giving him much insight to 1st age and the end. John always trying to get people to understand the beginning for if you don't understand what happen in the beginning all the way back in 1st earth age, you cant understand whats happening in this age. The time Satan fell from grace and convinced 1/3 of GODS created souls to fallow him. The 3 epistles of John indicate the writing was from a earlier time then gospel of John

Here and :2 supply (of the aions=ages) for the Logos then "was" and the aions were prepared by HIM (Hebrew. 1:2, 11:3

acts 11:15) supply (of our ministry) 2:4; In Phillipians 4:15 supply the proclamation of the gospel. was here- implying already pre-existed. Creation not mentioned until :3

Word had no beginning John 1:3, 17:5, 1 John 1:1, Ephesians 1:4, Proverbs 8:23, Psalms 90:2, John 8:58. not the same was as in :14

the Word Gr. Logos. As the spoken Word reveals the invisible thought, as the living Word reveals the invisible GOD. John 1:18

the (artical) designates "the Word" as the subject. "the Word"

Hi Antony. This passage in John chapter 1 is actually self-explanatory, though difficult to understand with the human mind. I'm sure you've read the whole passage from verse 1 to verse 14 especially.

The subject in these verses is The Word. The Word always existed because God always existed. The Word therefore was an intrinsic part of God, therefore the Word was God (not 'a' God, but the spoken declared Word existing & emanating from God): verse 1.

A further description of the Word from within God in verse 2. Everything was made according to this Word and in verse 3, this Word from God was capable of giving Life & Light to mankind. The Word that proceeds out of man is limited to only conveying our thoughts & feelings to someone else. Our limitation is because of our humanity. God is not human, so His Word (and His Spirit) have no limitations like we have - God can use His Word as He Wills & form His Word as He Chooses.

Then to verse 14 which refers back to this Word of God. God in His Wisdom & Plan, chose to take His Word and give it flesh (i.e. to clothe His Word in humanity). This is where it becomes difficult to comprehend: how can something immaterial like a Word be made into a human? Maybe in the same way that God can take a Seed & place it in a woman to bring forth a human baby ( Matthew 1:18-21), or God appearing to Abraham in another form with two others ( Genesis 18:1,2). All things are possible with God & our lack of understanding of His Power & His Ways shouldn't stop us from believing & accepting His Wonders.

So, as John 1:14 declares, that Word of God was made human, seen & touched by others, the begotten of God, named Jesus, the Son of God. Jesus is still the Word of God, made flesh for His Ministry & Sacrifice on Earth, but now risen into Heaven, seated at His Father's right Hand ( Hebrews 10:11,12). The Word that came out of God's Being, made flesh, & now risen as the glorified Man Christ Jesus, fully Divine, interceding for us ( 1 Timothy 2:5).

Hi Anthony.

You asked how can that be as if God was in the likeness of Man.

That's impossible for you and I.

Is there anything impossible for God?

John 1:1 (KJV) In the beginning was THE WORD, and THE WORD was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD.

Obviously John 1 is talking about THE WORD that came in flesh. (Jesus ) And There is only one God.

Here's just a few verses that may help.

John 1:18 (KJV) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV) And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 (KJV) For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Revelation 1:8 (KJV) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

God bless.

Andony,

There is a simple explanation for John 1:1.

The verse is talking about two different people, both with the name God, but only one known as the Word.

Subsitute Jack Epps for the Word and James Epps for the second notation of God.

The verse would then read, "Jack was Epps and Jack was with Epps."

To make this clearer, we could fully expand it to read as follows.

"(Mister) Jack (Epps) was (Mister) Epps and (Mister) Jack (Epps) was with (Mister James) Epps."

Looking at the verse this way removes all confusion as to what the verse is saying.

Hi Dawn.

Michael the archangel seems to be a powerful militant angel in the behalf of Israel.

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of "THY PEOPLE" and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Daniel 12:1.

Daniel 10:13.

Daniel 10:21.

However we know he is not Christ.

We can easily refute that here in Jude and in the book of Luke.

Here in Jude 1:8-9. you see Michael the archangel gives respect to dominion and says THE LORD REBUKE YOU.

Jude 1:9. Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Here in Luke 4:8. We see Jesus who created all things rebuke Satan.

"And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."

Michael the archangel is a created being.

"The Angel of the Lord is the pre incarcerated Christ. Who created all things.

Colossians 1:16. For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

John 1:3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

God bless.

You believe Jesus refused to instruct Paul when virgins were in distress? In Acts, Jesus instructs Paul when necessary.

"...if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him." 2nd Corinthians 11:4

"...the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." John 1:5

John 1:1 sais the word was with God, and the word was God. how can that be?

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And because Jesus is holy, when He died on the cross for us, He not only forgave us our sins when we repented, He also gave us His holiness. Only the people God makes holy can be with Him. 1 Corinthians 1:30 tells us that when we are in Jesus (i.e. we belong to Him), He not only redeems us, but also makes us righteous & sanctifies us (or, makes us clean & holy people, separated from others who don't love God). That means we can stand before God and God only sees the holiness and righteousness of Jesus in us, Jesus who lives within us (by His Spirit), instead of seeing our sin. But if we do sin, we can quickly repent to God & he will forgive us and restore us as His precious holy children (1 John 1:9).

Here are a few verses that you can read together and discuss:

Leviticus 20:26 (God separated Israel as a holy people for Himself).

1 Samuel 2:2 (Hannah's prayer that there is no other God & nothing compared to His Holiness).

Isaiah 6:3 (the cry of praise by the seraphim (heavenly beings), who worship God continually declaring His Holiness).

Mark 1:23,24 (even the unclean spirits, as also the Devil, recognize the holiness of God & His Son).

A thoughtful child may ask, 'If I sin then don't I become unholy & God wouldn't love me anymore?' Then, you would have to talk about our sinful nature, of our propensity to sin, of repentance, of being forgiven. We aren't like God, One Who cannot sin at all - we can sin, we all sin but we must repent & hate that sin. God has made us holy by separating us from the Devil & the world & making us a part of His family. He wants us to be careful & always try to live to His Standards. If we fail Him, He won't cast us out, but wants us to say 'sorry' & enjoy being in His family to please Him in everything. I trust something here may be helpful Richard.

I recommend that you read the Bible & not trust the other.

If you want to know who Jesus is start with: Matthew 1:1, Mark 1:1, Luke 1:1, John 1:1, & read through each chapter.

Hopefully you find that helpful.

All scientists seek to explain FOUR QUESTIONS: Time, Force, Action, Matter (Even Steven Hawking)

I was reading in Genesis, the Holy Spirit stops me on verse 1. He said the 4 things

TIME: in the beginning__God set TIME ticking

FORCE: The Godhead created. (Father, The Word; John 1:1) and Holy Spirit

ACTION: and the Spirit of God MOVED over

MATTER: earth, waters, atoms

God purposed, Word spoke: Light Be, and there was Light. (Purpose Spoke Light)

Carbon dating proves earth is around 2-3 billion years. SATAN was around but he's a created being. He cannot create dinosaurs, cavemen or anything other than chaos. My personal theory is: Romans 1:19-20. God put the artifacts in earth for us to find; oil for our cars, coal to be warm, fresh water for us and salted water for creatures.

We have to pray for scientists to see the Book of Romans. It's an occupation, as is archaeology, bio science, medicine. We are without excuse if we refuse to acknowledge The Godhead.

They're going to flip out when they get to heaven and see it's lighted up by the Glory of Jesus (The Son) and not a sun.

Jesus wants us to know this stuff because THE HOLY SPIRIT IS OUR TEACHER. All we have to do is ask Him. It's not a secret.

angels do not marry. We will be as the angels in heaven, in that we will not marry or procreate. Survivors of the entire Tribulation who have received Jesus as savior__and managed to survive alive without being marked or murdered by Antichrist will be taken to heaven in human reproducing bodies for 1000 years. They'll have to resist satans deceptions when he gets a short parole to tempt the still human people; then Satan goes to the lake of fire forever. O happy days!

These present troubles are just temporary. Let's spread the Word to the Harvest and get as many in as we can. We're going to be living with The God that purposed all of this!

Mishael

The Bible literally refers to God as Godhead, so the few who are uncomfortable with that term can simply use the word Godhead instead. There's a mountain of scriptures showing the dynamic and divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. We're here to defend Jesus Christ and anyone trying to discredit or smear His divinity. We should all pray for wisdom, understanding and truth as we read the scriptures so that we are not mislead by the enemy and buy into things that merely fulfill our itching ears.

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14

Matthew 1:23-25

Hebrews 1:8

Isaiah 44:6

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

Prophets, Prophetic, gifts of Prophecy in New Testament

Romans 12:6,

2Peter 1:16-21,

1Timothy 4:14,

Revelation 1:3,

Gifting working within the Body: 1Corinthians 12, 1Corinthians 13, direction concerning in Church: 1Corinthians 14:29-40,

Prophets yet to come: Revelation 11:3-19, false prophet yet to come: Revelation 16:12-15, Revelation 19:20, Revelation 20:10,

Revelation 19:10,

Revelation 22,

John the Baptist referred to as Prophet: Luke 1:76, Luke 3:4, Matthew 13:57, Mark 6:4, Luke 4:24, Luke 7:26,28, Luke 20:3-20, John 1:19-37,

Acts 3:22-26, Acts 7:35-60, Titus 1:12,

Matthew 10:41,

Jesus talking about Prophets in HIS day, referred to himself also: Matthew 21:26, Matthew 11:9, Mark 11:32, John 4:4,

Luke 13:33, Luke 24,

Paul & others acknowledged prophecy, Prophets, even Women that did Prophecy: Acts 21:8-14,

Hope these are helpful

Annie:

Galatians 3:18 For if the inheritance be of the law, but it (the inheritance) is no more of PROMISE, but God gave it to Abraham by PROMISE.

We have to know what this PROMISE is.

The PROMISE was A SEED.

Luke 8:11 ....THE SEED .....is THE WORD OF GOD.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the WORD (THE SEED), and the WORD (THE SEED) was with God, and the WORD (THE SEED) was God.

Now we know Christ is the SEED, but Christ is also the ANGEL of the Lord; therefore HIS SEED, those born of GOD will also be an angel, because we have become ONE.

Ephesians 2:15 ....for to make IN HIMSELF ONE NEW MAN.

Isaiah 63:9 ....and the ANGEL of HIS (the Father, SPIRIT) presence SAVED THEM.

Christ is the ANGEL.

A SEED always duplicates itself, wheat seed always makes wheat seed, it's a LAW of GOD.

When Christ the SEED is planted in you; at maturity you will be the exact same SEED: two; you and Christ, become ONE.

Galatians 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added for transgressions, till THE SEED (the WORD, Christ); could come to whom the promise was made; and it (the SEED) was ordained by angels (THE SEED of the SEED) in the hand of a mediator.

1 Timothy 2:5 For the is ONE GOD (ONE SEED), and ONE MEDIATOR, between God and MEN; the MAN Jesus Christ (the SEED).

Psalms 82:6 I (the WORD, the SEED) have said ye are gods (SEED made like the SEED planted), all of you are the children of the most HIGH (the SEED).

THE SEED IS ETERNAL LIFE.

1 Timothy 6:16, ...who (the SEED) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light ....

God Bless YOU!

These are the verses the Search Engine fetched, pertaining to only the word Elohim. Consider these for a while. I'll do some searching for you.

Genesis 1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Psalms 2:7 - I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Psalms 110:1 - (A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1 Corinthians 8:6 - But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Dear Victor,

If you are saved, form the habit of daily devotions--praying and reading the Bible, including studying the Gospel of John which teaches Jesus's deity, and what the Apostles Peter and Paul wrote about growing strong in our walk with Christ Hebrews 5:11-6:12, 1 Cor. 3:1-4, 10-15, Eph 4:11-16, 1 Pet. 2:1-3, 2 Pet.1:3-10. When you sin, ask forgiveness and repent from ever doing it again. Jesus's blood is sufficient to cover all your sins. 1John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." Ask Him to search your heart, know your thoughts to see if there be any wickedness in you, and show you the way to walk. Psalms 139:23, 24 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. Confess, repent, and your sins will be blotted out.

If you are not born again, that is, not saved, here is the way to salvation:

"As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13

Hi Diana. Daniel has shared some very good thoughts with you & special Scriptures for you to read & rest upon. But I just share a little to further encourage you, assuring you that you are not alone in your struggles.

Clearly, you love the Lord Who ransomed you & you want to live for Him to please Him; you are His witness right there at school, right there among the believing & unbelieving friends that you have. In every situation in life, and you will see many more of them as to grow older, we must always understand that the Lord has placed His children in a particular place, at a particular time, for a particular purpose. We are not remote islands in the middle of the ocean, but vital members of His Body (the Church) engaging with the people of the world that He has made & loves. If you get despondent at times because of the volume of animosity against you, remember the One Who is greater (living) in you than the miserable one having his wicked grip on those ignorantly following his leading.

We should never feel sad or sorry for our lot in life, rather pity those who have nothing of eternal value in them, glibly pursuing fleshly lusts & wisdom. You will always stand out as God's Light, His beacon, exposing the thoughts & actions of those living in darkness. Remember John 1:5, "And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not": Jesus has given you His Light - to be His Light in the midst of darkness - and that darkness (in the unbelieving) could not "seize or overtake" that Light. That Light will always shine in its full strength - no darkness can ever extinguish it no matter how hard it tries. The Light will always be a testimony against their dark thoughts & deeds & we can only pray that some Light will filter through to some of them, revealing the state of their darkness.

Be strong dear one, encourage yourself in the Lord (as David did when things weren't going too good for him), & pursue the friendship of those in the faith.

Dear Jimmy Wayne,

You are not alone. I have felt this way for some time. I think it may be that as we age in Christ we our life is more and more aligned with God's will and His will is contrary to the will of those who age in the world. As we age in Christ we more and more have the mind of Christ and so we hate what is wrong more and more and love what is right more and more. Also, we have more power to refuse to participate in sin, so we have better discernment of people and circumstances, perceiving the sinful and evil that I should avoid, therefore, avoiding even the appearance of evil. Jesus instructed us to let our light shine before men, that they may see the good that you do and give glory to God.

See

Romans 12:9; 16:19 1 Corinthians 13:6; 14:20 1 Thessalonians 5:22 2Timothy 2:22

Hebrews 5:14 1 Peter 1:14 3 John 1:11 Matthew 5:16

THE SEED

Luke 8:11 Now the PARABLE is this: The SEED is the WORD of God.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with God, and the WORD was GOD.

One of God's LAWS is that SEED always MULTIPLIES itself.

NO ONE can plant a wheat seed and harvest a watermelon seed.

If wheat seed is planted; wheat seed is harvested. It's a LAW of God.

The WORD says that the SEED is the WORD, and that WORD is GOD, and God is SPIRIT, the Holy Spirit or the Holy Ghost.

Christ (the man, the angel of the Lord, the Holy Ghost) is THE SEED planted IN US, Christ is the SEED that will be harvested (we, no longer flesh and blood, a man, an angel of the Lord, the Holy Ghost).

The SEED harvested is ALWAYS exactly like the SEED planted.

The HARVEST IS RIPE. We are awaiting the HARVEST, to depart this flesh.

Isaiah 63:9 ....and the Angel of his (the Father's) presence saved them......

God Bless YOU!

Genesis 6

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. ...

Some people assume the sons of God in this passage refer to angels. I don't. The term "sons of God" is clearly used in the Bible to refer to angels as well as to human believers. I do not believe the passage in Gen 6 refers to godly angels having sex with human women resulting in wicked angel/human offspring. I believe a better interpretation would be that believing men had sex with unbelieving women and their offspring ended up becoming unbelievers of renown.

If not, I find it problematic to say the offspring of angels were born with the sin of Adam, knowing that sin is not passed through the mother but through the father, to the offspring, else Jesus would have inherited Adam's sin from his mother.

Hosea 1:10

Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

John 1:12

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Reply to GiGi.

I got saved in 1971 just before I joined the Army. I ended up in a church with one of my supervisors at Ft. Gragg and we became close friends for more than two years. But in 1974 my friend and I had a disagreement over a Bible teaching and he accused me of possibly having committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit for which I would never be forgiven. This bothered me a great deal so I began praying for God to show me what the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost was all about. After seeking the answer for several years I believe the Lord finally answered me. Here is what I believe:

God has promised to enlighten every sinner born into the world (1 John 1:9). The Holy Spirit seeks to save every sinner in the world ( 1 Tim 2:4.) The Holy Spirit draws all men to Christ ( John 12:32.) The sin of blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is committed by sinners who see the light, are pointed to Jesus by the Holy Spirit, and yet reject the light and speak evil of Jesus, the Holy Spirit, or God. ( John 3:19.) The basis of condemnation to hell is rejecting the light clearly revealed to the unrepentant sinner by the Holy Ghost.

We see that in Romans 1 where sinners who clearly see and understand the light reject the light and are therefore condemned without excuse. The Pharisees who blasphemed the Holy Spirit in Mark 3 knew Jesus was God because Nicodemus said so in John 3:2. We know sinners who have not yet been shown the light by the Holy Spirit can be guilty of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit because of what Jesus said in John 15:22-24.

Let me be clear, under NO circumstances is sin ok for anyone to practice. Sin is what separated man from God in the first place. It is why God sent JESUS.

This gentleman was doubting his salvation because he believes he is addicted to pain meds. I walked this road with a husband who is a Christian and who was in severe pain on a daily basis. He did not set out to be on pain medications, but this is one of the leading causes of addiction. I don't know all the details, but I don't have to know them either, because God does. What I do know is that God is greater than anything we will ever face, sin or otherwise.

I am not a doctor, medications and the taking of medications are between this man and his doctor. That is for him to continue to address. He however needs help both naturally and spiritually. But clearly he has hit a roadblock that is now affecting his soul. My response addresses the condition of the soul.

God said, if you make your bed in hell I'm there. So my point is no matter what position you find yourself in, don't run from God, or be afraid about how you ended up there, BUT RUN TO HIM, and if you read the entire prayer you would see that. Jesus said "he that comes to me, I will in no wise cast out." When we come to him, we are really coming to the "Truth" Proverbs 33:4 says "The word of the Lord is right, and ALL God's works are done in Truth." God rescues those that come to Him in Truth. The bible says in John 1:17. Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ. Grace is God's ability and Truth is the force that ignites God's ability. We will ALWAYS get a response from God when we come to Him in TRUTH.

Hi Marke, thanks for the follow up. John 3:9 is not a OSAS verse. The one who is walking with Christ "can't sin" because they are covered by the blood of Christ. However, you can't ignore 1 John 1:7 "But IF we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." Only by walking with Christ will his blood cleanse us. This is not a guarentee that a Christian can't be moved away from the hope of Eternal Life, as stressed by Paul in Romans 2 and Galations 6. In addition to that, 1 Jn 2:24-25 lays out the condition for eternal life, which is abiding and continuing in the Son. We ware warned to remain in Christ. If we were eternally secure all these verses would read "the one who is in Christ will remain in Christ", but, it doesn't. There is the if/then condition, which is clearly salvation related.

Take the parable of the 10 virgins. All 10 started with the oil in their lamps, which oil represents the Hoyl Spirit. 5 were foolish and not on tending to their oil lamps. They let it burn out and were rejected at the door by the bride-groom, representing Christ on the last day. Even though he said "depart from me, I never knew you" doesn't mean they never had the oil! They just let their oil run out. Christ, Paul, James, John, Peter, and all the writers of the OT all echoed the same thing. One who starts their journey with God MUST stay the course. If they don't then they won't go to heaven.