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yes just a thought,not a bad one thou jus to many words, why do we baptize in a name and jesus were not? why do peter say in the name of ?

Great question. i found in scripture mathew 28:18-20 summarized, says we are to go into all the world teaching and preaching the gospel baptizing in the name of the father, in the name of the son jesus, and holy ghost.

We can only guess Albert, what John the Baptist said when Jesus, or any other person, was being baptized by him. In the case with Jesus, John could have said: 'To fulfil all righteousness as you have declared, I baptize you the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world'.

I don't believe that John would have baptized Jesus or anyone else in a name. For the people, his baptism was because of their declaration of their sins & the need of repentance. Of the Lord, His baptism was entirely different, involving the inauguration of His Ministry, obedience to the Father to fulfil it, & a foretaste of His Coming death, burial & resurrection. At the completion of His Baptism, the Father gave His 'full pleasure of His Son' & the descent of the Holy Spirit as that visible confirmation of this special Man & His Calling. Just my thoughts about this brief part of our Lord's Life.

The scripture tells you: Luke 3:1-22, note Luke 3:16, Matthew 3:1-17, note Matthew 3:11-17, John 3:27-36,

Romans 6:3, Mark 10:38,

Acts 8:12-17, Acts 11:16, Acts 19:1-5, Acts 2:38,

when john baptized jesus,what do you supposed he said? and in what name

Hello, FREE

Yes Jesus was conceived in Mary as a human baby. The humanity of Jesus had a beginning, but the divinity of Jesus (God the Son) never had a beginning.

John 1:1-4 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was Go. He was in the beginning with God. all things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men." (NIV)

john 5:26 "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself." (NIV)

John 11:25 "I am the Resurrection and the Life." (NIV)

What I was saying was that The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all equally eternal, without beginning, and that Life is who they are which makes them self-existent, not having acquired life from anything outside of themselves. Jesus is eternally God the Son Who took upon Himself an additional nature to His divine nature, that is human nature. In Jesus is these two natures in one Person. His human nature had a beginning, but His divine nature existed eternally.

Thank you for asking for clarification.

Let's look at just a couple of comments on this subject...

Adame Clarke:

The book, entitled Koheleth, or Ecclesiastes, has ever been received, both by the Jewish and Christian Church, as written under the inspiration of the Almighty; and was held to be properly a part of the sacred canon. But while this has been almost universally granted, there has been but little unanimity among learned men and critics as to its author. To Solomon it has been most generally attributed, both in ancient and modern times.

John Gill

This book has been universally received into the canon of the Scriptures, by Jews and Christians. The former, indeed, had once some controversy a about it; and they thought to have hid it, or put it among the apocryphal books; because, at first sight, some things seemed contradictory to each other b, and to incline to heresy c, atheism, and epicurism, and to assert the eternity of the world d: but they better considered of it; and when they observed those passages were capable of a good sense, and that the whole agreed with the law of God, they changed their minds e. And so likewise it has been rejected by some heretical persons, of the Christian name, as Theodore and Mopsuest, and others; and by deists, and some deistically inclined. But it carries in it such internal evidences of a divine original, as cannot well be denied; it delivers out and inculcates such divine instructions, concerning the duties of men to God, and one another; concerning the contempt of the world, and the carnal pleasures of it; the fear and worship of God, and a future judgment; as none but the wisdom of God could suggest. There are various things in it which seem to be referred to by Christ and his apostles; at least there is an entire agreement between them: among the many things that might be observed, compare Ecclesiastes 11:5 with John 3:8; and Ecclesiastes 11:9 with 2 Corinthians 5:10; and Ecclesiastes 7:20 with 1 John 1:8.

Let us remember 1 Timothy 3:16!

God's Word in John 1:1 is true that Jesus is God. Praise God.

Hi Danielle, have you read John 1:1-3? Because what you stated seems contradictory to this.

You wrote: "He was also created by God"

KJV says in John 1:1 "Word was God" and John 1:14-15 reveals that the Word is Jesus, because He's exactly the one who came in the flesh that John the baptist bore witness to, which eliminates any possible confusion with anyone else. This absolutely confirms with 100% certainty and no possible misunderstanding that the Word is Jesus, and thus, Jesus is God.

John 1:2. God didn't create Himself. Jesus didn't create Himself. God the Father didn't create Jesus. Jesus was already there from the beginning and he made all things John 1:3.

You said to pray for right and wrong, truth and lies, and I agree! I believe these verses in John is the truth and I believe anything said contradictory to God's Word is false. I pray that anyone reading this discussion will know the truth, that the truth of God's Word is made obvious in the hearts of those in this forum.

First, who is Christ, see John 1:1. In order to have the mind of Christ you must know and understand the Word of God, for He is the Word of God. Read II Timothy 2:15 and I Timothy 2:4-8

First, John the Baptist may not have had any correspondence withno knowledge of Jesus after he baptized Jesus, although he was the forerunner of Jesus. A forerunner is a messenger sent before to give notice of the approach of others. John the Baptist was the messenger announcing Jesus' coming. He would not have to have contact with Jesus.

If John did not have any contact with Jesus, it would have been through the Holy Spirit that John knew ( John 1:29,36). Later on, John told Herod his marriage to his sister-in-law was not lawful ( Mark 6:17-18). That got him put in prison.

What few people realize when studying the Bible is that John the Baptist did not witness any of Jesus' miracles. The Jews expected a messiah that would set them free from the control of the Romans. This was not what Jesus came to do.

John had plenty of time to think while he was in prison. He probably had many doubts. He may have wondered why Christ did not come and deliver him. That's when he finally sent two of his disciples to ask Jesus some questions ( Matthew 11:1-3). Jesus told them to tell John what theyhearand see. "... The blind, lame and deafarehealed,the dead are raised, and the poor hear the good news of God's Kingdom. Happy is he who has no doubts about me." ( Matthew 11:4-6).

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If the Spirit speaks to one to keep Sabbath as a rest day, then to that person they should abide - but to another, the Sabbath was not given to Gentiles & any day can be for rest & also for worship ( Romans 14:5,6 & the whole chapter).

Gentile? If you have no Jewish heritage, then you fall under the Gentile category. If the Gentile has not received the Law, he is a law unto himself ( Romans 2:14,15). Of course, all peoples are under governmental law, unless they're hidden away from society. But for both the Jewish Christian & Gentile Christian, the old Law has no more application or binding, for we are now subject to the Law of the Spirit. I don't believe that anyone with the Holy Spirit within them would ever be led to murder, commit fornication, & other sins. If a believer does sin, then he's going against the Spirit's ministry & appealing to his flesh (& this is why Paul spoke of crucifying the flesh ( Galatians 5:24,25)).

Jew? When I wrote, 'Jewish convert', I meant that such a person still retains his Jewish heritage/bloodline, but has relinquished all that kept him bound to his faith (Judaism), finding forgiveness of sins, new life & liberty through the promised Messiah, Jesus Christ. The Jews today still await the Messiah, but Jesus came, but they refused Him & crucified Him ( John 1:10-14). But the day will come when they will acknowledge Jesus ( Zechariah 12:10,11; Revelation 1:7,8). People have in the past become Jewish proselytes, embracing Judaism, its Laws & Practises ( Exodus 12:48,49; Acts 2:10; Acts 6:5; Acts 13:43). I hope that I've covered all your questions; if you have other questions feel free to start a new thread. Blessings.

Suze: It sounds like from your post that Christ has already come the second time.

Hebrews 9:27 And it is appointed unto man (sinful flesh) once to die, but after this judgement (rightfully dividing the word of God, which is truth).

Psalms 37:28 For the Lord loveth judgement ..........

Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered (in the flesh, as sinful flesh) to bear the sins of many (all); and unto them that look for him he shall appear the SECOND TIME (as the Holy Ghost)(as a thief in the night) without sin unto salvation.

Psalms 116:15 Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death (on the cross, as sinful flesh) of his saints.

Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise ....

Christ arose to a new body that is immortal, as you died with him, you also arose with him, Christ is LIFE and TRUTH, when you depart this fleshly body all that remains is LIFE and TRUTH, as you bear the image of the earthly you will bear the image of the heavenly.

He who is born of spirit IS SPIRIT.

God is Spirit.

Spirit is all the things that can't be seen, life, faith, love, mercy, truth, wisdom, understanding, knowledge, etc.

You will be the image of Christ, because Christ is the image of God.

1 Corinthians 3:21-23 ...for all things are yours ...and ye are Christ's and Christ is God's.

Christ is in creation bringing creation to truth, when you join him you will be doing the same thing.

Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God (SPIRIT) the Judge of all, and to the SPIRITS OF JUST MEN MADE PERFECT.

Revelation 10:11 And he (spirit of Christ) said unto me (John) thou (John) prophesy again (as the image of Christ, working in creation, as a ministering spirit) before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

John 1:51 ....Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels (messenger's) of God ascending and descending upon the son of man.

GBU on our quest for truth.

Well Jim, you're doing well in keeping up with all the comments to you. And if I may continue as well.

I don't believe any of us have a problem with Jesus being called the Son of God & the Son of Man - for so He is. From your understanding, Jesus began life only at birth, as the Holy Spirit placed the Seed in Mary (of God) & she then gave birth to a Man (of man).

So, the passage you quoted ( 1 Cor 15:26-28) & others signifying Jesus' elevated Position & having all things subject to Him & He being subject to the Father, I would agree to as Jesus was raised from the dead as Man, ascended & at the right Hand of God, receiving worship, & fulfilling His Position in God's Design. The problem does not lie here as we agree to these things. The problem lies whether this Holy One was in an earlier 'Divine State' or not; was He part of the Godhead or only a newly created Being born in Bethlehem?

I noted your understanding, to Adam, on the John 1:1 verse, specifically, "I'm saying that the word of God is instilled in Our Lord Jesus." And John 6:38 as well: "The Holy Spirit of God from heaven produced the manna on earth. The same with Jesus. The Holy Spirit descended on Mary and created the Lord Jesus Christ."

To John 1:1: there are other hurdles to overcome here, viz verses 3 & 14. Verse 3 speaks of "all things being made by Him" & verse 14, "the Word (i.e. that which was with God & was God - of v1) was made flesh". So here we have Someone creating (also seen in Colossians 1:13-17) & that Word from God being given flesh. I doubt if any could avoid a clear understanding of what is being taught here. And then we have John 8:57,58, John 17:5, etc. If I avoided these verses, I could well agree with you, but Scripture taken in totality simply presents this Jesus as Someone far greater from eternity than a special sinless creation in Bethlehem. It would be interesting to learn your view on these other verses, as many others have failed to come back to me when asked of them.

Hi Tom.

That is a great question and as several may have said, the scripture doesn't reveal why.

Here's what I find interesting,

We know John was the forerunner preparing the way for the Lord.

He was to bring in what was prophesied by the Prophets.

When he required of Jesus the Lord reminded him a passage from Isaiah, which he also stated when he begin his ministry in

Luke 4:17-21.

I believe the Holyspirit was on John his entire life to fulfill his ministry which was to prepare the way for the Lord.

It's also interesting John was never given a visual description of Jesus to identify him. Just that he would see the spirit descending and remaining on him.

John 1:31-34. And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

And I knew him not: BUT HE THAT SENT ME TO BAPTIZE WITH WATER, THE SAME SAID UNTO ME, UPON WHOM THOU SHALT SEE THE SPIRIT DESCENDING, AND REMAINING ON HIM, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

John ministry was unique and was to bring to Israel what was prophesied. And when that was done he said this.

"He must increase, but I must decrease.

He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.

He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.

For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. John 3:30-34."

John was mighty in bringing in our Lord, afterwards he decreased.

Jesus is the only one given the spirit without measure.

Just a thought.

God bless.

Dear Jim,

This will be the last time I reply to you on this topic.

I took ample time to show numerous verses that clearly say Jesus is God and you deny it. It sounds like your heart is closed based on your response. That is between you and God. No amount of dialog between us will likely change your mind. So, I will wish you well because you are putting your hope and trust that verses like John 1:1 are wrong. It says Jesus (the Word) is God and you believe Jesus is "not" God. It sounds like you are reading it with your own premise, THEN finding and interpreting scripture to fit your premise, rather than starting with reading scripture first with an blank slate THEN praying for understanding. Every one of your points above are answered by just reading the Bible without any filters or bias.

While I appreciate respectul dialog up to this point, what I don't appreciate is a disingenious comment such as this "you totally ignored it." This is false. I didn't ignore anything. To try to figure out what you accused me of "ignoring" I now scrolled up to a higher comment where you posted a verse to someone else. Of course your same assumption of "ignoring" could be said about you, because you didn't respond to each of the verses like John 1:1 that I actually replied to you, not to someone else like you did.

You also didn't respond to my question to you if you've prayed about this? Have you prayed to know the truth about Jesus and have you felt any confirmation or anything in your heart as a response? I won't characterize you as intentionally ignoring as you did to me, but it's noteworthy that you haven't responded to this important point. God bless.

Hi Jim, just noticed your comment about denying Jesus's divinity. People try to do that from time to time, but in order to do so requires cherry picking one verse, twisting it, then ignoring the mountain of other verses in the Bible. In this case you're conflating God's son with the phrase 'sons of God' which was used in a general sense. The same unsound logic can be applied to twist anything else into what you want it to mean. It's pretty hard to deny verses like John 1:1 that clearly say Jesus is God though. It takes mental gymnastics to escape the truth of such verses. Jesus in Isaiah 7:14 is called Immanuel which literally means "God with us" but its up to each person whether they want to accept Jesus or deny Him. 1 John 2:22-24

Do you consider yourself a Christian? To be a Christian means you follow Jesus Christ and if you don't believe Jesus is Lord then that is similar to what nonbelievers think. Some even admit who Jesus is, but still stubbornly won't accept Him. It's a spiritual battle. Matthew 7:21

John 14:6 - No one comes to the Father (also God) but through Jesus.

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."

John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."

Philippians 2:5 - 2:8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

2 Corinthians 5:19 "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation."

John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 20:28

Pretty hard to disregard all these Biblical truths about Jesus. He became flesh and died for you. Have you tried praying and asking who Jesus is and to reveal that to you?

Just to add to the other great Scriptures given to you, Stephanie: Psalm 139:13-17 (God has beautifully planned for & made the child, still in its mother's womb). Psalm 127:3. 3 John 1:2.

Matthew 24:35, Psalm 12:6-7, John 6:63, Psalm 119:89,

1 Peter 1:23-25, Proverbs 30:5, Luke 4:4, Acts 19:20, Romans 10:17,

John 1:1-3, Revelation 19:11-16.

Hello ELB or GBU,

I'd like to comment on your comment:

"the grave awaits those that commit suicide, they will be brought back to their flesh at the second resurrection, judged, brought to truth, and given their place in the Kingdom of God."

The two assumptions I see in this sentence is that dead people (or cremated) will go back to the flesh, and second, that all people will go to the "Kingdom of God." I assume by that term you mean eternal life in heaven.

So, when I read 1 Corinthians 15:42-44 to me that says we will not go back into the same flesh as before, but one that is now "imperishable" as it says, and one that is a spiritual body.

As for assuming someone who commits suicide will go to heaven, I'm not sure if that's what you mean or not. If so, I'm not sure where that belief comes from because the Bible clearly says most people will go to hell, not to heaven. Matthew 7:13. Salvation is conditional upon people taking action to follow Jesus. The Bible says "if" many times like in Romans 10:9, 1 John 1:9, John 15:10, John 14:15. God bless.

Hi again Ravina.

To put it in context with the verse you supplied and to be direct.

I begin with "Sin" separates us from God.

Jesus is to you, me and the WHOLE world the propitiation for our sins. 1 John 2:2.

Here's the definition for Propitiation.

Greek:

Transliteration: hilasmos

Pronunciation: hil-as-mos'

Definition: atonement that is (concretely) an expiator: - propitiation.

KJV Usage: propitiation.

To expiate is to make amends or reparation for; atone for: expiate one's sins by acts of penance. To make amends; atone.

"The penalty of sin has been paid"

Here's how John the baptist describes him.

The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. John 1:29.

Now, to put my first reply in harmony with this post,

Though Jesus is our propitiation for our sins, we must accept him and believe this good news.

"The Gospel".

1 Corinthians 15:3-4.

Romans 10:9-10. ect...

If we reject this good news here's our fate.

Hebrews 10:26-27. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

When we have been truly born again we're given the a new nature and power over sin.

Romans 6:20-22. For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

I hope this helps.

God bless.

Hi Ravina,

Jesus is with me in all things in my life, in all my thoughts, in all my words, in all my actions and all of my circumstances. ( Hebrews 4:13) So, when I sin, He is with me when I sin and is grieved by it, as I should be also, if the Holy Spirit has regenerated me, given me the faith to believe and be converted and is indwelling me to sanctify me and transform me to become more and more Like Jesus, who never sinned. Therefore, when I sin, I desire and hope that I would be grieved and convicted of it quickly. and then I can turn to Jesus and confess my sin to Him and know that He is faithful and just to forgive me. (1 John 1:9) Jesus has compassion for me because bring God Incarnated as a human, understands our weaknesses, having been temped in all points as we are, yet He did not give in to sin. ( Hebrews 4:14-16) I can be assured that Jesus is not a God that is far away, but nearer than the closest friend I could ever have. I can trust Him to love me though I am a sinner, but His life and work of salvation has opened the way for me to have become a child of God Our Father in heaven. I can be confident that I remain God's child throughout this earthly life and forever in eternity. I can know for sure that nothing can separate me from God's love for me because Jesus is my Savior forever and in Him we have peace with God.

Ravina, I hope that you will tell us what Jesus is to you when you sin, as well. I am sure that you have nothing but good things to say about Him, since He is perfect in every way. God bless you today.

John 1:1-5

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Jesus gave us the Lords Prayer as a frame so we could fit our daily prayers into each verse. He starts the prayer__OUR FATHER

So that's what I pray personally. Respectfully I say In Jesus Name at the end.

Then I pray Luke 4:18-19, and follow with Matthew 9:37-38; that I might be anointed and sent; that day.

Mishael

Satan knows the Bible but he doesn't believe nor understand it. Even as Christ spoke His words in parable those of the world (including Satan) knew the words...but didn't understand. Not due to lack of wisdom but ignorance in lack of belief.

John 1:5

"And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."

Gill's Commentary of: 3 John 1:2

Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper___ Or succeed in all temporal affairs, in the business of life, in which he was; and as success of this sort depends upon the blessing of God, which maketh rich, it is to be wished and prayed for from him:

and be in health; that is, of body, which above all things above all outward mercies, is the most desirable; for without this, what are the richest dainties, the largest possessions, or the best of friends? without this there can be no comfortable enjoyment of either of them; and therefore of this sort of mercies, it is in the first place, and above all others, to be wished for, and desired by one friend for another. The rule and measure of this wish is according to the prosperity of his soul,

even as thy soul prospereth: the soul is diseased with sin, and may be said to be in good health, when all its iniquities are forgiven; and may be said to prosper, when having a spiritual appetite for the Gospel, the sincere milk of the word, it feeds upon it, is nourished by it, and grows thereby; when it is in the lively exercise of faith, hope, and love; when spiritual knowledge is increased, or it grows in grace, and in the knowledge of Christ Jesus; when the inward man is renewed day by day with fresh strength; and when it enjoys communion with God, has the light of his countenance, and the joys of his salvation; and when it is fruitful in every good work.

Mishael: this would be a fine prayer to pray for yourself. This time in history, we need all of the Lords blessings working for us.

" Hebrews 11:1"

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

The story of Joshua 5 mirrors the Exodus in several ways. First; it involves the end of an era and the beginning of movement into a new land across water which was dried up. Second; once again the Presence of God was there; although at this time there was the Ark with the manna inside to remind everyone of God's earlier miraculous provision. There was also Joshua in the stead of Moses; acting as the leader or representative. The miracle was also noteable as the waters of the Jordan ALWAYS flooded in this season (sidenote in v. 15).

There was a call to sanctify (probably abstinence and ceremonial cleanness) in verse 5; and verse 6 indicated how the Levites were to administer initial movements forward; and the people were to follow. The 12 men of every tribe (v. 12) were to represent God's inheritance as was to be distributed among the tribes after conquest (v. 10).

It would seem that such promises which indeed brought fear among the pagans as already witnessed in Chapter 2 would cause these Jews to remain faithful for the rest of their days.

There was soon to be much fear and trepidation; and eventual disobedience-although perhaps the successful faithfulness time frame might be longer here than in during the Exodus. Admittedly; what would be seen with human eyes in regard to the giants of the land would cause such a reaction as this was a new thing to behold. Once again; the theme of TRUST in relation to God needs to be upheld. His covenants are unchanging-praise God or we would all perish as we all have sin remaining as long as our earthly tabernacle remains (1 John 1:8).

However; we all have the potential and ability through the Spirit to put the flesh to death day by day. We seek; however a heavenly city( Heb. 11:16) which was already foreshadowed by the faithful saints of the O.T.

How can one explain the fact that God is life from John 1:1, 4 in 11:25

I hope you get other thoughts on this, Follower of Christ, but in a simple way, I consider those phrases in the following manner:

John 1:29: "The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which TAKETH AWAY the sin of the world." This 'taking away of sin', or us 'being freed from sin' ( Romans 6:7), or 'put away sin' ( Hebrews 9:26) appears to be what happens when the Sacrifice of Jesus was completed & the penitent sinner places his trust in Christ & that finished Work. In other words, sin is 'taken away' as God's final dealing with it, to give us spiritual rebirth & confidence & joy in that Act.

Romans 4:6,7: "Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins ARE COVERED." Here, the thought is that the forgiven person's sins are HID from God Eyes. Even though our sins are 'removed as far as the east is from the west' ( Psalm 103:12) so that God remembers them no more (or, no longer holds those sins to our account), Paul in Romans, sees God as hiding our sins from His View, as our sin being a despicable thing in His Eyes. Some could understand this as, 'sins being covered under the Blood'; & this is true as well but taking the passage from David's utterance ( Psalm 32:1,2), the true sense should be that of our sins have been hid from God.

So, in one sense these phrases are similar, as sins are taken away completely, & yet we see both the aspects of a total removal & a total forgiveness as our old sins are treated as filth but covered from God's Sight & taken away only because of Christ's shed Blood. What can wash away our sins? Nothing, absolutely nothing but the Blood of Jesus.

Hi Kenaket.

There's something I believe we have often missed is a passage in the book of Hebrews concerning Christ ministry and that is his priesthood had no beginning or ending.

Note what John the baptist has to say here in John 1:29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

The old testament had rituals and services amongst many other things that pointed to the Lord Jesus Christ. You see this throughout the book of Hebrews.

God spoke to them in many ways. Hosea 12:10.

We look back at the cross, they looked ahead at the cross.

Here's Jesus in John 5:39. "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hebrews 10:5-10. Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

Then said I, Lo, I come (IN THE VOLUME OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME,) to do thy will, O God.

Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

( Jesus is referring to old testament scripture )

1 Peter 1:18-20. Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

WHO VERILY WAS FOREORDAINED BEFORE THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD,...( BUT WAS MANIFEST IN THESE LAST TIMES FOR YOU,...)

I hope this helps.

God bless.