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Hi Rick,

I don't believe that the Greek word for baptize was supposed to mean something else, so someone can feel off the hook from being baptized. I don't believe that just because someone found another Greek word they prefer that people are somehow free of Jesus's commands to be baptized. Jesus talked about water baptism, baptized people, and His disciples were then called to baptize in water to fulfill the command. It says it plenty of times in the Bible.

The Bible says to repent and confess:

"I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance" Luke 5:32

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

When God says something and man says something different, I believe God's Word over man's word. The gospel isn't complicated and doesn't take Greek or Hebrew scholars to understand but a desire to seek and follow God. I've noticed on many occasions when someone finds something they aren't comfortable with in the Bible, they go to the Hebrew/Greek and try to make it mean something other than what it means. But its already translated and already means what it says.

God bless...

Hello Cathleen Lovell,

I'd like to first address that if you lost a pet you loved. I'm sorry for your sadness. GOD has compassion Psalms 145:8-9, Matthew 10:29,

The scriptures do not say "all dogs go to heaven" however there are hints of some creatures.

Isaiah 65:25, Mark 16:15,

It says all beast shall give account of mans blood Genesis 9:5,6,

GOD cares so much for us that HE gave us HIS Son for our Salvation John 3:15-16, knowledge of this helps us trust HIM with everything for HE made it all, All of creation John 1:1, 1 John 4:18,

Hopefully these are helpful

Jesus came to take away "the sin of the world" from the beginning!

John 1:29

"The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world."

God Bless.

Matthew 25:31-46,

Hebrews 9:27-28,

Jude 1:1-25,

1 John 1:8-10

John 3:15-16,

Hopefully these are helpful. There are many more scriptures on this subject. If you would like more, let me know. Just reply back.

I'd like to add to what Chris stated. I am not Catholic nor Roman Catholic, however I took communion with my aunt & former boss (a high ranking political figure). After several times in attending & participating in two different states, whenever I had to accompany my former boss on Sundays, or visiting my Aunt Holidays or Sundays, maybe multiple years. All of a sudden, I was no longer allowed to participate, in either state because I "wasn't Catholic" that seems very wrong on multiple levels. Here's additional scripture:

1st: we're told to exam ourselves, before Communion, not other's to allow or disallow. 1 Corinthians 11:28-31, Roman 14:1-4,

2nd: we are told to confess our sins to one another: James 5:16-17,

3rd: John 6:37,

4th: Matthew 23:9-10,

5th: 1 Timothy 4:1-6, "doctrines of devils" forbidding marriage?

However the Catholic church is well-known for hospitals, ministry to needy 1 John 1:25-27, Matthew 25:31-46,

& we're called to love one another: John 13:35,

Hopefully these are also helpful.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

* Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are WITHOUT EXCUSE."

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. [Jesus]

{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to us. Teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first. Learn fully who the Son of Man is (Jesus).

Your friend might get a better picture of what is coming to the earth, by watching this high tech kinda wild movie on what the end times will look like. It helps to read the Book of Revelation in the Bible.

Lots of people can't get a point of reference on Revelation. It seems mystical but it isn't. It going to fit perfectly into our society.

This movie is chopped up into about 10 videos. To see how earth ends and begins again, watch the one titled, the "Millennium."

See it on YouTube. It's about 1:44 mins long.

Tell friends about it too. Very little dialog, but scripture references are shown.

(The videos put out by Lion of the Tribe of Judah; don't get it mixed up with the Revelation Station videos)

Pat The believer going down this road there is no profit in it. The being or individual known as the Antichrist

will not come into full control until the Body of Christ The church of God is Gathered together or for the sake

of further explanation the rapture of the Church. There are many things occurring now against Christ even in

the first century church in 1 John 1:18+19 their were many things against or antichrist but they were not

the Son of Perdition that's an entirely different identity. He will not come into power until we are out of here we

will not be in the tribulation to come.

Is that 'only' statement true? What about these verses...

James 2:19

James 1:23

James 2:24

2 Peter 2:21

Acts 2:38

John 1:9

God bless...

John 1:12,

John 17:1-26,

Romans 8:14,

1 John 1:1-2,

Hopefully that is helpful

God can read in the heart of each one of us whay didn't see the darkness in juda escariot

Thanks Sister GiGi.

It's funny how We share views of Scripture It's not the dialog that often breaks the peace It's what's sown within that reflects outwardly.

You don't have to give your view, just post the scripture and there's contention!

We shouldn't be surprised

The concept is all through scripture.

John 1:4-5.

No one is going out to seek contention, It's already there.

( Example)

Matthew 10:32-38.

God don't compromise his Holiness to exercise judgment and I don't think he asks us to when dividing the word.

We have to wonder If we're not going to win them over and they know they're not going to win us over, Why are they so adamant on keeping this dialog going? Perhaps they're after the audience. And this is where I believe 2 John 1:10-11 applies.

And if we've been battling this for I know over a year!! Perhaps this verse apply.

Matthew 7:6.

My question was when do it apply and if we're so fundamental about everything else why not this?

In the secular we call the democrats "liberals" But aren't we also as a whole.

And this especially goes for those who say salvation is by works and not by grace when Paul makes that clear all through Galatians starting here-

Galatians 1:6-8.

Paul says let them be a curse

But we call them Brother.

He also emphasize it in

Philippians 3:2-11. And this is the only "religion" given to Man and it slew us.

Now this is a peaceful dialog that you and I are having but some would say it's contentious.

And by the way I have been guilty of this as well, that's why I carefully say WE.

Yes this is difficult but did the Lord say it wouldn't be?

Be strong in the Lord

God bless.

Thanks for your reply Brother Dan.

Here's where you're out of line.

I've never posted concerns about the forum, They do a great job.

Here's a paste of what I said exactly.

My Quote :

I understand to some this is "just" a KJV Discussion forum. However we do use it to try and win some over to Christ, If that's so then all Scripture is practical and not set aside till Sunday. We are to apply it and all of it, and all the time.

You see the emphasis is that we are allowed to use the forum to witness and present ( ALL scripture ).

And these are the Scriptures I had I Mind.

2 John 1:10-11.

Mathew 7:6.

Mathew 7:13-23.

Galatians 8:1-9.

Matthew 12:30.

Are these Scriptures relevant today?

If so are they suggestions?

When do we apply them?

Are they given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness?

If we believe Scripture is applicable today do we apply it to our walk?

In other words do you take what you believe in and put it in to action?

Are do we just say "No it's just a forum."

I believe it's more because we use it to lead people in to eternity and some whether they are continuous of it or not holds to a Doctrine that does otherwise.

So why bid them God speed after a year or so of dialog.

God bless.

In the King James Version there is no incarnation, but here is the definition for incarnation - a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, spirit, or abstract quality. (in Christian theology) the embodiment of God the Son in human flesh as Jesus Christ. John put it this way

John 1: 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

We as christains say the word was manifested in a fleshly form. The word that was spoken to mary was manifested into a flesh and blood as a baby.

God Bless

stay prayed up ready to go up

cowboy

HI Brother Dan.

Sorry but your comment misses the point.

We ALL Know there's different views.

But all views don't have anything to do with Christian faith.

Infact some views is an offense to the faith.

That's why I posted 2 John 1:10-11.

How do you Interpret that verse?

HERE'S PAUL RESPONSE TO ONE THAT SUPPORTS A WORKS BASED SALVATION.

Galatians 1:6-9.

Galatians 3:1-29.

How do you Interpret this?

And this

Matthew 7:6.

If one is preaching another Gospel How could he be Christian?

There's many views, But one truth.

I certainly don't know it all but I pray to have the courage to apply what little I do know!!

And these verses and many more seems to give value to my point.

God bless.

Dear all "PAST and MODERN DAY PESTILENCE or PLAGUES".

Soo thru.

I am glad the the Houses of God is filled again. So the plague of viruses have turn some hearths, is it not soo? Ty all for good explanations. Love u all in Christ.

John 1:48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.

Be comforted in the Holy Spirit.

Dear Manasseh Dangana on Ecclesiastes 1.

Hoseas task was to explain about the sins of the people, the judgment is fixed and the covenant of God's love is fixed

Ecclleasiastes 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

It is a fact that with wisdom comes responsibility, too know or not too know.

God bless u in Christ may the Holy Spirit lead you to the whole truth.

John 1:48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.

49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

50 Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these.

51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.

Dear John, no is not, Children should not take things for granted, nor should parents. But is it a big dept. it is the parents' duty to provide good conditions. Not like the public bank.

Ill personally will give anything who is good for my Children.

God bless and remember John 1:48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.

Love u in Jesus Christ.

Simple answer is yes Jesus is God, he is the son of God and also the son of man, he is part of the godhead (triune God) John 1:14 says that the word was made flesh, Jesus also says that He is the only way to God the Father, the Holy Spirit (Comforter) talks to our conscience as in John 14:26, Jesus also talks about the narrow way to life, what he's talking about is Salvation of the cross, and his suffering death and resurrection. I pray that this may answer some of what you were asking.

1 John5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God."

1 Corinthians 2:14.

Hello fellow Brothers and Sisters.

Some Doctrines we encounter may be strange to our ears and we rebuke and try to reason with scripture for reproof and for correction.

But after a while do we become a supporter of their folly by helping to provide them a platform?

Some have been warring against the truth for I know atleast a year now, "And there has been no change in their Doctrine.

So we say we do it to protect the new comers against these heresies. or perhaps the babes in Christ.

To a degree we may but in a sense we're trying to stop what we provided, and that's a platform.

Here's a few things to consider.

2 John 1:10-11.

2 Timothy 4:3-4.

In the ears of the natural man these far out false Doctrines appeals to them.

When do we come to the point to when we're casting our pearl before swine?

I understand to some this is "just" a KJV Discussion forum. However we do use it to try and win some over to Christ, If that's so then all Scripture is practical and not set aside till Sunday. We are to apply it and all of it, and all the time.

God bless.

John 1 says Jesus is God and helped create everything.

John 1:18 is another way of saying the same thing. NIV says Jesus is God. KJV says in bosom of Father.

This is kind of oneness relationship we will likely never fully comprehend until after this life. It takes faith and trust in the Word to believe what it says. Beware of anyone using crafty human logic to explain away the divinity of God or to try to sow doubt, as that does not come from the Bible or from God.

Jesus is God. He's part of the Godhead. Romans 1:20, When he was being tried by the Pharisees, He said: I and my Father are one.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us" in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made (us), even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

Jesus is returning sooner than we all think. Matthew 24 and Luke 21 give us specific signs to watch for. They will increase near the end of days

Something else...this world we call home is going to pass away. We know that it's going to end and be renewed to what God created in Genesis. Before we polluted it and destroyed it with greed and technology. 2 PETER CHAPTER 3.

God promised never to flood the World again. But it is going to burn up. It already happening. IT IS NOT GLOBAL WARMING. The earth is responding to the WORD OF GOD, shown to Peter.

It's coming apart now: forest fires, worldwide droughts, polluted ground water from human belligerence; continent sized floating islands of garbage in both hemispheres. Earthquakes and Volcanos, floods: with increasing intensity. FAULTS once thought long dead will become active. As the end wars will be fought, we'll see space objects hit earth, our cities. Food will be used against us to force us to take THE MARK OF THE BEAST, ANTICHRIST. One world currency will be forced on us next. One world religion. Individuality will be no more.

Take the Mark=DEATH

Take Jesus=LIFE ETERNAL

FAITH believes God's Word.

The Holy Spirit, John 3:5-8

Amen Brother Alex:

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith (of Christ) we understand that the worlds were framed by the WORD of GOD (Spirit), so the things that ARE SEEN were not made of thing which do appear.

Everything that we see was made of what we CANNOT see: everything was made OF SPIRIT (GOD).

The sun, moon, stars, planets, trees, MAN, etc., etc., are made and do consist OF and IN CHRIST. Man was created in darkness, no KNOWLEDGE that GOD created MAN out of HIMSELF.

Colossians 1:17 .....and by him all things consist.

John 1:5 And he shined LIGHT into DARKNESS and the DARKNESS comprehended it not.

Glory to our God, who in the fullness of time will DESTROY DARKNESS.

God Bless You.

Please read these scriptures: John 7:1-53, Mark 2:1-28,

This discussion came up Holidays 2019, there was hatred towards not wearing masks in donut shop Southern California 80-90 degrees near beach. Teenager asked "wouldn't Jesus just be nice" then it hit me with fire inside my spirit. I replied "Jesus would be the first to bring alarm!" "If they were going to arrest people for getting too close, touching the sick, HE'd probably be first" I could envision HIM hugging & healing people & upsetting the "norm" as "enforcers" would say "HE isn't allowed to do that."

Luke 13:1-17, Luke 13:20-35, * Mark 3:1-6,9,10, *

Hypocrisy of crowds, sporting events, parades, but Jesus crowds? Mark 2:2, hypocrisy= John 19:31, Luke 4:14-44,

not wearing masks, HE'd probably be taking them off, elderly & children 1st. Would the creator of man, mankind, want them breathing carbondioxide, weaking their lungs, hiding HIS glory? 2 Corinthians, 1 John 1:1, seeking to save themselves? Luke 17:33, Matthew 16:35, Luke 8:35, John 12:25, Matthew 6:25

Luke 6:1-19,

John 9:1-7 can you imagine? criminal charges today?

+ HE actually gave commands to heal the sick, Matthew 10:8, Luke 10:9, Acts 4:28-30,

"The saddest thing about all the hate, meaness, is when this is over, people will remember how badly they were treated" "let's try to remember that & be kind"

Matthew 25:39

It's almost 2022. Those mandates have caused division, job loss, depression etc., yet what proof of any good?

To further answer your question: I have been in much prayer about it & I do not take lightly any scripture. I believe in USA we are a "Nation under GOD" being The People we are the ones with the Governing authority as per The Declaration of Independence, The US Constitution & all States Constitutions. The people putting forth "Mandates" know they have not authority to call them "laws" they are therefore those that "resist the power & Ordinances of GOD" & the Higher power is GOD.

Hopefully these are helpful.

Hi Little Turner John 3:16 John 1:29 John 10:10 Acts 2:38+39 To be saved Romans 10:9+10 confess with

mouth believe in Heart and thou shalt be saved Absolute tense! This is the why, believe and become a child

of the most High! God bless

Bible scripture is not complicated. Please don't let others complicate and confuse you.

Much of the bible scripture including the gospel of Jesus is written so that a common person (even a child) can easily understand enough to become saved, and remain saved, and receive Salvation/Heaven.

John 3:16

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Believe in Jesus Christ.

Mark 16:16

"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

Get baptized in water, and receive the Holy Spirit.

1 John 1:9

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

Ask God for forgiveness in the name of Jesus when you sin, and walk in the Spirit.

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Strive to keep God's ten commandments, and ask for forgiveness when you sin.

Revelation 22:14

"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."

Jesus tells us above, that those of us that keep his commandments - we will have the right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates of the city/Heaven.

Nothing is complicated in most bible scripture. God wants all of us to understand!

Do not depend on others, pick up and read your Bible, believe in what it says, and take a hold of YOUR SALVATION!

John 1:1-5,

My verse is from John 1:1, ECCLESIASTES 3, Psalm 91, Roman 8:28, Proverbs 13:24, 2 Corthians 5:7

I believe Judas will go to hell, because he betrayed Jesus to help murder him for profit. This is like blasphemy and turning his back on Jesus. Peter denied Jesus, which might also be a form of blasphemy, however, I believe Jesus forgave him through a special circumstance- asking if he loved Him three times.

People are deceived if they believe everyone goes to heaven regardless of how much sick and vile evil they commit against God, like Hitler mass murdering people. Jesus already said most people will go to hell. Just read the gospels and his many parables. They are all similar themes- warning after warning.

Jesus died for everyone, but forgiveness is contingent upon someone humbling themselves, repenting, confessing, believing, declaring Jesus is Lord and accepting the gift. Acts 2:38 - this requires an action. It doesn't say 'Do nothing and ye shall receive the gift' or 'Keep sinning as much as you want...' Here's another action requirement: repentance: Luke 5:32. Here's another confessing: 1 John 1:9.

Romans 10:9 - notice the "If..." People don't say "if" unless it's conditional. Salvation is conditional.

This says to believe: 1 John 5:13. It doesn't say 'not believing is totally fine.' Romans 12:2 - this says to be transformed and to not conform to the world. That's a big bummer for those hoping for a free get out of hell free card to enjoy a lifetime of sin and guilty pleasures. Look at this: John 8:11 and even this: James 2:26. Another: James 4:6. Reading the Bible for what it is paints a very different picture than the little summaries people like to spread around. People who ignore all the Bible's teachings and do whatever they want should be afraid for their soul: Luke 12:5. God bless.

Good morning, Rick

I do not agree that Jesus was not born wit the spirit. I believe Jesus was fully human and fully God at conception. He always possessed the Spirit. In reference to John 1:32, at Jesus' baptism the Father and Spirit manifested with Him to affirm to those around Him that He was the Messiah, not to fill Him with the Spirit. If your interpretation is correct, then the it would also be true that the He became the Son of the Father at that time. But He was always the Son of the Father, Who said at His baptism, This IS my only begotten Son, in Whom I am well pleased. Jesus was already His Son. It does not say He became His Son. Same is true of the Spirit. Jesus was One in Unity with the and Spirit from all eternity, therefore as fully God and fully man, He had the Spirit since conception.

Tony Spirit is not passed at birth, when any human is born he is body and soul, the only exception to this that

I'm aware of is John the baptist, even Jesus Christ was not born with Spirit, John 1:32. When an individual gets

born again he receives that which he didn't have before holy spirit eternal life Gods Gift. Now some believe the

spirit and soul are the same.

Spirit life is eternal where as when you take your last breath that's the end of sou life , Genesis 2:7 God formed man, gave him shape then breathed into his nostrils breath of life and he became a living Soul

it is believed by some since God is Spirit that is what he breathed in man. In Genesis 1:27 God created man in His own

Image and In the Gospel of John 4:24 Jesus Christ said God Is Spirit. So man in the beginning was body soul and spirit

when man sinned in Genesis He lost his Most important part His Spiritual connection with God which was bought back by Jesus Christ.