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I believe so, Stuart. When we die, our flesh breaks down entirely, returning to the earth. We lose everything: our bodily weaknesses, piercings, even tatoos. But in the resurrection, we will be given new glorified bodies, fit for Heaven, when even the desire for tatoos or the pleasures of this Earth, won't be in our hearts. This is a part of the blessed expectation of all who are found in Christ Jesus, those who are redeemed from sin & Satan's hold, by faith in Jesus' Sacrifice for them.

Hi Chris

The bible says first the physical and then the spiritual. You are saying first the spiritual and then the physical. I'm sorry but you have it backwards. Jesus is first mentioned in Genesis 3:15. He was in Gods mind right from the beginning. In the exodus it is said the rock 1 Corinthians 10:4 that followed them. It says spiritual rock which means the rock symbolized Christ. Jesus Christ was in Gods mind right from the beginning. He was not an actual being until his birth about two thousand years ago.

It says Jesus was conceived in the womb. Luke 2:21. Conception is when two seeds are joined together. Jesus started life as a baby and grew from there.

At Jesus resurrection what did Jesus say to Mary?

John 20:17 I ascent to my Father and your Father and to my God and to your God.

Thanks

So I guess that upon our death. If we had Tatoos, they will be removed ?

Jim

I am not sure exactly what You are asking. My comment to your post was in reference to what it seemed to me that You do not believe Jesus is God.

Titus 2:13 days that we are " looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our Great God and Savior Jesus Christ."

In John 20:28

Thomas said of the risen Lord Jesus "My Lord and my God" and Jesus accepted what Thomas said. He did not deny being God.

In Matthrw 1:23 Jesus is referred to as "Immanuel" which is translated "God with us."

John 1:1 says "On the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"

And then in John 1:14 it says of Jesus

"And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."

So this passage in John identifies Jesus as God in the flesh (the eternal Word)

Therefore the scripture say that Jesus is God, but he was also man, having come

In the flesh. He had two natures, a divine nature and a human nature, both on the one Petson of Jesus.

His nature as God cannot sin because God is perfectly holy and never changes in such qualities of His essence.

So I think I have answered your question.

I agree, no matter where you are in your Christ walk, reading of His life in the gospels is always wise. He is the author and finisher of it faith (Heb.12:2)

He is our Lord and our God

( John 20:28) He is the Resurrection and the Life ( John 11:25) He is the brightness of God's glory and the express image of God's Person ( Hebrews 1:3) he is worshipped by all the angels

( Hebrews 1:6) He is our Great God and Savior ( Titus 2:13-14) He is King of kings and Lord Of lords ( Rev. 19:16)



And so much more. Therefore should we not have great interest and earnest desire to read of His life, words and actions from the Gospels often?

For me, I love all sections of the Bible, but lovebtheGspels the most. It is here in the Gospels that I intake the truth of my Savior and become familiar with Him as the One I worship, adore, follow, serve, and hold out to others to come to know by faith.

It is Jesus that we should know the most about. We should be thoroughly familiar with His life in the Gospels so that we can better understand the teachings about Hom in the Epistles, Revelation, and OT. This is why I always suggest that people wishing to know the Bible better begin with the Gospels.

This is my name.

It's alright if you don't wish to respond to me, which ever the reasons may be. Please read: John 19:28, 1 Peter 1:20,

John 19:36, prophetic fulfilled by Isaiah the same Prophet that declares GOD's recompense, vengeance, punishment. Romans 11:2,

Luke 4:18,19, Isaiah 53, Luke 4:23-27, Galatians 3:8, Acts 8:32, Mark 15:28, Psalms 22, John 19,

John 19:37, John 20:9, 2 Timothy 3:16, Mark 12:10, John 13:18, John 7:42, John 17:12,

Luke 8:28

Jude 1,

Matthew 25:31-46,

Hi Rick,

I'd keep reading. Seek the truth and open yourself to learn who God really is and what He will reveal to you. Pray for wisdom and understanding. I wouldn't stop after one section and make conclusions before you take the entire context of the Bible into account. There are logical explanations for your questions.

For your food question if you continued reading you would have naturally found Acts 10. There is much more info in the New Testament about what law applies today, because there is moral law, civil law, and ceremonial law. The latter two were specific to Israelites. You would also read a verse like this: Matthew 5:17-20

Regarding your other questions you would eventually read verses like these:

1 John 5:7-8

John 1:1

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14

Matthew 1:23-25

Hebrews 1:8

Isaiah 44:6

John 1:18

Some OT prophesy of Jesus to come:

Isaiah 7:14

Psalms 72:9-10

Micah 5:2

Numbers 24:17

Genesis 22:18

God bless...

Hi Donna,

The Bible flat out says Jesus is God in John 1:1.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

"Word was God"

It flat out says the Word is Jesus in John 1:14 and onward. It also calls Jesus God in other scripture too, so one has to deny much of the Bible in order to deny Jesus's divinity. Why are people so motivated to deny Jesus, one might ask? Matthew 10:32-33

The Word was God literally means the Word was God. It doesn't say the Word wasn't God. It doesn't say the Word was a different God. It doesn't say the Word was God the father. It doesn't say was kind of a God, but not really. People seem to really enjoy twisting this and trying hard to make it mean something else, but it doesn't mean something else. The Word was God still means the "Word was God." It cannot be denied what it so clearly says.

I heard someone who seemed motivated to not want Jesus to be his Lord or God go on to say that the Word didn't mean Jesus and wanted it to mean the Bible. But that person forgot that the Bible already says the Word is Jesus in John 1:14. It again calls Jesus the Word in Revelation 19:13.

So, all the other speculation doesn't really matter. People's devised human arguments in order to rationalize or distort to fit what one wants to believe is all irrelevant. The fact is John 1:1 says Jesus is God and the real question is does someone believe in the Bible as God's word or not? I choose to believe it. I hope others do too. Satan loves deceiving and tricking people into rationalizing away and cherry picking certain things over others.



1 Corinthians 8:6 (Jesus made all things), John 1:1 (Jesus was there in the beginning), John 5:18, (equal with His father), Jesus is the John 8:58, "I AM", Exodus 3:14, Revelation 1:8. John 20:28.

There are spiritual forces at work trying to deceive and twist and misinterpret. Beware of false teachers. The Bible already says what it means. Do we choose to believe and trust?

Hi Jim,

You initiated a reply to me. I'm not sure how interested you are in my belief, but I am happy to dialogue with you as long as it is respectful and grounded in the truth of God's word, not man's opinion. You shared scripture which is great, I believe all the scripture you shared, but I don't believe your interpretation of it. I believe you have misinterpreted it and I can be very specific to the exact reasons why for each point if you are genuinely open to it. For the scripture you shared there is more scripture that says Jesus is God. He's not God the Father, but God the Son. I believe this, because the scripture says this, not because of feelings, bias, or agenda, but because it literally says Jesus is God in John 1:1. Do you believe John 1:1?

Your comment began with a question not about the trinity as the Bible says in 1 John 5:7. But your question wasn't about what the Bible says in 1 John 5:7, but the word 'trinity'. Since we don't know each other I don't know your motive for saying that, but I can say that some others use it as a common straw man argument to deceive others in order to discredit Jesus. The word the "Bible" isn't in the Bible either, so is it not a Bible? The word used in 1 John 5:7 is the three are 'one', so if you can use that if you don't like the word trinity.

John 1:1

1 John 5:7

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

John 1:1

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

1 John 5:7

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 5:8

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

Matthew 1:23-25

Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

Isaiah 44:6 - Lord is King of Israel, Besides me there is no God.

"Sons of God" isn't THE Son of God.

Do you believe these verses?

Rick, I quoted John 20:22. So I will stick with that, as the Holy Spirit indwells believers, as the disciples were at that time.

There is no where in Scripture that says that regeneration only happened after Pentecost. But John 20:22 does indicate it. As in Genesis, God spoke and it came to be at the speaking of His word. So it is in John 20:22. He gave the Holy Spirit to His disciples when He spoke and breathed. Just as in Genesis when God breathed into Adam, Jesus breathed the

Spirit into the disciples, I believe.

There is nothing to say that they received the Spirit at a later date. In Acts chapter 1, Jesus said that they will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon them, but it does not say they did not already have the Spirit in them nor did it say that they would be saved by the Spirit coming upon them. Don't you think that Jesus would have said that they became believers or saved if that is what happened when the Spirit came upon them? It would seem that that would be an important thing to distinguish since He told the apostles to make disciples and baptize them.

Anyway, you asked me a question and I have answered even though it seems you have moved on from your recent post to me.

Gigi My understanding in John 20:22+23 he was explaining for the future, in John 16:7 he says the

Comforter, the spirit to come after as he says he is Glorified, and that occurred when he Sat at Gods Right

Hand and completed His ministry on Earth. It was not available to receive permanently gift of Holy Spirit

until pentecost and to be received we confess out saviour from sin and from the heart Romans 10:9+10

and believe in your heart. It's your privilege to believe what you will. Moving onward to the bema!

Rick

I was responding to what you said in your post. "They had no spiritual understanding of what he was communicating until they were born again at Pentecost." The text does not say that they were born again at Pentecost. They were believers before Pentecost and were gathered together as Jesus instructed, praying and praising God. In John 20:22J, Jesus breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit." The Holy Spirit does not indwell un-regenerated people.

I believe that what Jesus spoke happened at that moment. What happened at Pentecost was another work of the Holy Spirit that happens after conversion.

You and others have repeatedly spoken that salvation comes when one confesses with one's mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead. I am pretty sure that the disciples had done this as a result of their experience with the risen Lord before He ascended. The Scripture nowhere says that an experience such as at Pentecost is the means of salvation. It is what God brings to already regenerated persons

So, for me, I believe that Jesus gave the disciples the teaching and understanding they needed to believe the gospel and take the gospel to the world prior to His ascension. The power to perform miracles, speak in tongues, and to be courageous in the face of opposition and persecution came at Pentecost. That is my point in responding to what you pointed about these disciples. You spoke as if you knew for sure that they were unsaved prior to Pentecost because, I believe as you seem to imply that that experience is the means of salvation rather than that in Romans 10, that you have often cited as the means of salvation.

Therefore, I understand what you said about the natural and spiritual man. You assumed that the disciples were not reborn and therefore had not a spiritual man in them. I contend that they did. I think Jesus was more than able to accomplish all that was needed in is disciples before He ascension. God Bless.

Habakkuk 3:4,

In other translation "Jerusalem Bible" "His brightness is like the day, rays flash from his hands, that is where his power lies hidden"

When I researched it: resemblance of the cross, injuries to the Messiah's hands, resurrection of Jesus, the scars remained. Prophecy? John 20:20, * John 20:24-31, *

Psalms 22:16

Psalms 22:1, Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34,

Mark 15:24-31, Matthew 27:35-42, Psalms 22, John 19:33-37, Luke 23:33-37, Luke 24:36-42,

Hi. To answer your question simply, it would be, 'there is nothing in the Bible that supports confession to a priest before partaking in communion.'

Since I am not RC, I cannot comment fully without having to refer to the other aspects of the Mass. I don't agree to the communion emblems being spiritually re-constituted into the Body & Blood of our Lord, just as I don't agree to making confession to a priest, whether in relation to the Mass or not.

However, in support of the matter of confession, the main Scripture that the RC Church uses is John 20:23, "Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained." This is used because of the authority Jesus gave to His disciples & then by extension, that same authority was conferred upon the priests who follow in the station of the apostles. If I might expand on that verse: the word, 'remit', sometimes translated as 'forgive', actually means 'to send away, to release'. And the word, 'retain', means 'to hold fast, not let go'.

So, the RC Church then believes that it has the God-given authority to both forgive, or release, the sins of the penitent, as well as to withhold that forgiveness - usually then requiring some type of penance be made. But is all this correct? When we study the intent of John 20:23, no such authority was conveyed to the Christ's disciples, who became His apostles; because only God can forgive us our sins through His Son, & not through man ( 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" - Jesus can only hear our confession & forgive our sins).

Therefore, John 20:23, is the authority given to His apostles to bring out this new Truth by declaring to the Church the gravity of sin & the conditions on which Christ can forgive them - if they truly confessed, the apostles had Christ's Authority to declare the sinner as forgiven (sins remitted) & restored - but not to be a mediator before God.

Gerard,

Traditions and holidays in Christianity have pagan influences that are with us today, and it is up to us individually what we do we do, we live, and we die unto the Lord. Your concern on the day Jesus was crucified, you are right, three days and three nights do not fit with Friday. What day of the week fits and are there scriptures that show what day it was?

We know Jesus rose on the first day of the week and it was before sunrise, Luke 24:1 Mark 16:9 John 20:1. The first day starts sundown on the Sabbath day the seventh day, so it was after the sun went down on the seventh day while it was still dark.

In John 12:1, he writes six days before Passover, Jesus in Bethany, and John 12:12-16 the next day Jesus rode into Jerusalem. This would be 5 days before Passover and with Jesus fulfilling this feast it would be the tenth of Nisan when the lambs were taken up Exodus 12:1-6. We call this Palm Sunday. The Passover day is on the 14th which is a preparation day for the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, a Sabbath day, Exodus 12:15-16.

So, if Sunday is the tenth, Mon. 11th, Tue 12th, Wed. 13th, Thur. 14th, Passover day, the day Jesus was crucified. Friday a Sabbath that John called a high day, John 19:31, Saturday a weekly Sabbath two Sabbaths back-to-back. If it was on a Friday, it's like you said, it does not fit, if it was any other day like Sun. Mon. Tue. Wed. the women could have gone to the tomb before the weekly Sabbath with the spices for Jesus' body.

If you would like I can give the scriptures that cover what Jesus did each day after he rode into Jerusalem, it matches as well.

Hope this helps.

God bless,

RLW

Luke 8:2, Luke 8:1-4, the whole chapter is relevant actually to point out Jesus love for people deliverance, GOD's nature, Luke 8,

Mary Magdalene is mentioned: Mark 15:40-47, continues Mark 16:1-14, Matthew 27:55-56 (followed Jesus from Galilee), Matthew 27:59-61, Matthew 28:1-10, Luke 23:49-56 continues Luke 24:1-10,22-24, John 19:25,

Luke 10:38-42, John 20:1-18,

* John 11:1-8, John 11:1-45

* John 12:1-3,

Luke 7:36-50- Luke 8:1-3, same account?

John 12,

Hopefully you enjoy this study.

Alex N. When Jesus breathed on them in John 20:21-23 At the end of 21 he says as the father sent me even so I send

you then he breathed om them and said receive ye pneuma hagion or holy ghost or spirit that was showing them how to

receive. Eleven of them didn't receive until pentecost because it wasn't available until he sat down at Gods right hand totally accomplishing what he was sent to do. I said eleven because judas never made it and mathias took his place or ministry.

Hello Peter Good Morning this is what we know John 20:19 He could Appear instantly. John 20:26+27 You could still touch Him. John 20:5-7 appears to have literally raised out of the clothe he was buried in. Also Acts 1:11 appears he could defy gravity. You tell me I just Know its what we have to look forward too.

Peter,

My understanding is that Jesus rose from the grave in a physical body. He also ascended to heaven in a physical body. John's account of the resurrection shows that the tomb was opened and the linen cloth that was wrapped around Jesus' body was still there, but no body. If He rose in Spirit only, the body would still be there.

Also, in Matthew Chapter 28, Jesus makes a personal appearance after He rose from the grave. He had to have been in a physical body because Matthew 28:9 tells us that Mary Magdalene and the other Mary actually grabbed Him by the feet. And then we know from what Jesus says to Thomas in John 20:27 that He had to be in a physical body because Jesus told Thomas to touch him. You can't feel spirit.

But to answer your question about the nature in which He exists right now, whether it be flesh and blood, flesh and bones, or Spirit?

1 Corinthians 15:50 tells us that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. We see in Luke chapter 24 that they thought Jesus was a spirit. But Jesus says in Luke 24:39, "Touch me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have." It is interesting that He doesn't say flesh and blood, but flesh and bones. Could the reason for Him saying that be because He shed all His blood at the cross?

Jesus ascended in bodily form. In Acts 1:11, these two in white apparel said "Ye men of Galilee." Notice that they were called Galileans. I don't know if you are aware of it or not but all of the disciples were Galileans except for Judas. He's the only one that was not a Galilean. He was from the city of Iscariot outside of Galilee. So he's telling them that this same Jesus which is taken up from you into heaven shall so come in like manner as you have seen Him go into heaven.



So if He was seen ascending into heaven in bodily form, and we are told that He will return in the same manner, I would have to believe that He is now at the right hand of the Father in a flesh/bones/glorified body!

1 Peter 3:15 says to always be ready to defend the faith.

2 Corinthians 10:5 and Titus 1:9 and Matthew 7:15 suggests that we are to challenge false teachings.

This should be done in love and respect for others. It appears that some want to be able to post their various opinions to challenge others, but don't seem unwilling and perhaps not secure enough to have their ideas challenged. They seem to want to dominate with their falsehoods, but act offended and retreat in the slightest questioning of their assumptions. Some interpret even the most benign questions as argumentative or unloving, which seems to protect their narrative.

For example some don't believe John 1:1 is true. It's a strange distortion of the Word that seems only recently to have gained traction among fringe groups. We know that anyone contradicting scripture is not speaking Words from God, and if it's not from God, it should be obvious who its coming from. But many are so convinced in their own mind that all scripture viewed through that narrow lens offers confirmation bias, even though the belief itself is self-contradictory.

A Christian is a Christ follower who believes Jesus is Lord. Jesus is God. Not a separate God, not Father God, but God the Son, and He's part of the truine God. It says this clearly in John 1:1 and many other scriptures. But just because people have a hard time comprehending how He can be a Son and have a Father who is also God and also be 'one', doesn't mean people should invent human reasoning that departs from the scriptures to explain their worldview. That's where people start making up stuff and disregarding lots of scripture. Then if they don't believe in Jesus's divinity, and don't believe Jesus is Lord, then one might ask, are they then a Christian?

John 20:28 - if someone reads this and says Jesus isn't God and isn't Lord, are they being honest with themselves?

The Pharisees also didn't believe Jesus was who He said He was. They thought He was blaspheming by calling Himself God through "I AM" statements, and they wanted to kill Him.

We should pray for wisdom and understanding and stay in God's Word. God bless.

Hi Charles D.

I also hold the view that Mishael holds.

I have also heard that He meant for her to not cling on to him, They both may be true,, I don't see neither view voiding one another. The reason and Emphasis seems to be on him first ascending to the Father

John 20:16-17. Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

( Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; FOR I AM NOT YET ASCENDED TO MY FATHER: )

but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Hi Fred What we do know scripturally is His body could disappear and reappear in the gospel of John 20:19-29 we know he could just appear and later on with Thomas he was able to be physically touched, also in mark 16:12 he appeared in another form, so this body had remarkable capabilities so to speak beyond sense knowledge. A few times they did not know who he was road to Emmaus, wouldn't you like to have heard that teaching!

You didn't cite one Bible verse supporting your feelings, I wonder why.

Just 1 scripture shows whether what you said is true or false:

John 1:1

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

"...WORD WAS GOD."

Is Jesus the Word? Yes, John 1:14.

This verse is like kryptonite to those who don't want to believe in Jesus's divinity, because it leaves no room for creative interpretation. Anti-Jesus folks hate this verse and will perform all kinds of mental gymnastics to try to make it mean something else, but it doesn't work. It already means exactly what it says.

But is that the only verse saying that Jesus is God? There's more...

1 John 5:7

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

John 1:1

Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

1 John 5:7

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 5:8

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

Matthew 1:23-25

Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7:21-27, John 3:16, Isaiah 53, John 20:29, John 5:19-20, John 5, Here are a few scriptures to help you better understand who GOD is.

Dear Chris M, It is hard to know exactly what you are referring to, without knowing to what you speak. Unless these fond memories of yours consist of sinful pleasure, or things contrary to scripture I see no need to "reject" them. It may be, that through God's providential leading, that these lead you to Him. The Bible speaks to the goodness of God that leadeth us to repentance. I would also remind you however, that Satan can present himself as an "angel of light." Some memories can cause you to stumble. I'll give you an example, lets say one of those fond memories was having a wonderful time with a relative on a fishing trip. No problem, if say you consider a fond memory as "out drinking someone" at the local pub, and being the record holder, then I'd say "get rid of it." Make new memories preaching repentance and point others to Christ at that pub! Paul covered this in Phil 4, some great "do's and what to think upon." So many times did the writers of the New testament say "remember." "Stir up our remembrance..." remember and follow my example, Paul said. Paul also said "forgetting those things behind, I press toward toward the mark...Some memories are not bad, but not best compared to service for our Lord. "I would encourage you do a word study on "remember." Ask God to lead you and he will. Then, as you grow in grace, you will know. Being a Christian is a journey.

Precious brother Chris m, you are Very Welcome! Please be Richly Encouraged as you take your time "Growing In GRACE." Yes, as one who is like you, "reading things 10 times to Get it," I can vouch that "studying HIS Word, and serving The LORD" is well worth the effort. And our 'Patient' God Does Also:

"Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of The LORD, forasmuch as ye know that 'your labour is not in vain' in The LORD." ( 1 Co 15:58)

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There will be "reward At Judgment Day!" ( 1 Corinthians 3:6-15; 1 Co 3:14)

Thanks so much for your comment. My family are not atheist but I didn't grow up in church. Due to my Aunt who's whole family is very religious (my dad's sister) constantly trying to get him to go to her church. So much that it drove him away from religion, so my mom didn't take my brothers and me to church at all. However, I feel like finding Jesus means so much more to me than my cousins who were dragged to church their whole lives, because I didn't have Jesus forced on me, I need and want Jesus in my life. It's a shame that it's taken 55 years to realize how wrong I was and how wrong my dad was also. I recently saw my Aunt and told her how wrong my dad was all those years. It made me feel better and I think it made her feel better to know I had finally found the narrow path to God. I feel like I can never ever repay Jesus for what he has done for me and I express that when I pray. Thanks again for your kind words, and I hope God blesses you every day of your life.

Thanks for taking the time to reach out to me. I will try reading your suggestions. I have read the 4 Gospels and am currently working my way through Acts (Which is not as easy to read for me as the Gospel's) I do not read fast and have to re-read sections alot to make sure I understand what they mean or look up definitions of words which sometimes gets me sidetracked, but I take my time because its worth the trouble. Thank you again, Bless you!

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Yes, I believe Jesus was capable of committing sin as he was flesh & Satan took advantage of the weakness & susceptibility of it. But for Him to sin, would mean the receiving of a sin nature, become a failure as Adam became, & be rejected as the only acceptable Sacrifice for sins. We would never be able to attain salvation in any other way & only God could know what His Son's condition & position would be henceforth (I couldn't even begin to contemplate such a thought). But for His holiness, His resolve, & His great love for us, He thwarted Satan's attempts "on all points" of temptation pertaining to life.

To think of Jesus just as "the Divine Son of God & Name above all names without saying He is God", I believe is to seriously undermine the Nature of God in its completeness. Just because a kidney can be removed from me & transplanted to another, doesn't mean that stops being my kidney (just a weak analogy). Fortunately, I can survive on one kidney, but it will always remain my kidney that I gave to another because I was born with it & was given from my body. If Jesus (the Word) came out from God's Being, He always remains God, even as God's Spirit always remains God. What causes the confusion, is our incapability of understanding that 'three can be one' with any 'part' able to be wherever, doing whatever God prescribes for 'it'.

Thomas exclaimed to Jesus, "My Lord & my God" ( John 20:28); as well as Philippians 2:6; Colossians 2:9,10; John 10:30,33; Isaiah 7:14 cf Matthew 1:23 are some Scriptures that attest to Jesus' Divinity.

Precious brother Chris, a Very Warm Welcome to the family Of God!

If I may suggest Bible reading to get you Growing In GRACE, in addition to your "praying" = Ephesians, and then Romans - Philemon, Which Are God's GRACE/PEACE Love Letters Directly TO us Today, For: Consolation, Comfort, Edification, Enjoyment, Encouragement, And spiritual Building Up Of All The BLOOD-Washed "members ( saints!" ) In The Body Of CHRIST!, HIS Church, Seated In Heaven! Amen?

And after these, maybe this "study" suggestion, for further "Growth In GRACE":

Link

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship, today?)

And, Again, a Very WARM Welcome!! See you in God's Great GloryLand!!! :)