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Hi Chris M , you don't have to give up your memories . The events and people that you have experienced and known have helped to make you you ! I wasn't brought up with religion so most of my family and friends were atheist and I gave them and received from them , love and fun and good happy times , ' all things work together for good to them that love God ' . It's so true , so many people , atheist , have been kind to me and helped me through my life , I now know that all these kindnesses that I received I received from God . God has always been in your life , working through your experiences and the people around you to bring you to Him . Of course once you know the Truth your priorities and outlook on life change a bit for sure , but you are still you and it's you that God loves , has always loved , and He has used the correct ways and means and life experiences and people to bring you to Him . You are an individual and God knows you better than you do and He has brought you safely through your life and taught you a million different lessons on the way , using the people around you . When I was a child my parents taught me some horrible things , but these things helped me in latter life and for sure helped me to get on the path I'm on now , which is hopefully the path to the Kingdom of God . God is always at work , everywhere . Trust in Him and rejoice in the fact that He has brought you closer to Him in the perfect way that He knew how to .

Recently became compelled to come to christ at the age of 55, asked Jesus to save me some years ago but didn't take time to read and develop a true relationship with him. For some reason which I have no clue I've recently been taken over with the desire to read and follow everything i can get hold of about Jesus and have been praying several times a day. Although I know I have to walk away from the world and it's ways, I am saddened and struggling because I have a lot of good memories mixed in with all the 55 years of living in the world and need to know how I can turn my back on all the fond memories even though Jesus expects it. Please help this old Reborn Sinner , Thanks

Hello, not sure if I'm understanding your view correctly, but it sounds like maybe you don't believe Jesus is God. I do understand people's different viewpoints around this, because God the Father is just referred to as God in many cases. For example, Son of God in the wording suggests that He's not God, but the Son. However, that isn't the whole picture- as there's so much Bible verses showing His divinity and it would be hard for anyone to deny that Jesus himself was called God and scripture says He was God in John 1:1.

1. Isaiah 7:14 - People called Jesus Immanuel which means "God with us"

2. John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."

3. John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."

4. John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

"Word WAS God."

5. Philippians 2:5 - 2:8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

"form of God"

"equal with God"

6. John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jesus made everything.

7. John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

8. John 20:28

"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

9. 1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

10. Genesis 1:26 - "And God said, Let us make man in our image"

"Let us make" - plural.

What I gather from this is they are different but the same. We will probably never 100% comprehend this until after this life. The Son is not the Father and the Father is not the Son, but it says they made everything together, are in each other, have similar form, they both have great power to do miracles, and both are referred to as God in the Bible.

In response to Naomi Thompson/Chris with regards to missing books of the Bible. I agree with Chris' response to the possible missing books that are referred to. I would also like to add John 20:30, 31. There were many other things that were written, but what God gave us is sufficient for anyone to believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you might have life through His Name. May the Lord bless our hearts in Christ name.

Thank you for helping to bring up questions others may have in their hearts.

May the Lord continue to shine His face on the Brethren and that we are blessed and a blessing unto others. October 5, 2021

Hi Louis. I believe that it was John who is referred to in John 19:26,27. Why I think this, is because in other places (e.g. John 13:23; John 20:2; John 21:20) John resorts to this expression "the disciple whom He loved" & speaking in such a manner was common when the focus was taken off oneself. We can also think of 2 Corinthians 12:1-7 as an example, where clearly the Apostle Paul is speaking of His experience of Heaven though not naming himself as the one.

Then in John 21:20-24, Peter questions Jesus about "what shall this man (?) do?" And then the brethren believed "that that disciple (?) should not die". Again, who is that disciple? John then says in verse 24, "This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true." Or, 'I am that disciple who testifies of these things, and wrote these things...". Therefore, we can say with all certainty that the disciple whom Jesus loved was indeed John, the Apostle who referred to himself as such.

crucifixion is a horrific way to be tortured to death...they nail you in a ' T ' POSITION... and stand you up, when the accused cant hold himself, up he sag's down and his arms are above his head.. this becomes the torture because the Ribs rub against the lungs building up fluid an slowly drowning the accused...and from the fear they can come down they break-the legs to hurry up the process causing the accused not to be able to rise up to catch a breath......

John 19:33

But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:

John 19:32

Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.

John 19:31

The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

>>When the Romans finally wanted their crucified victims to die, they broke the prisoner's legs so they could no longer push themselves up and all the body weight would be hanging by the arms.

Crucifixion may be defined as a method of execution by which a person is hanged, usually by their arms, from a cross or similar structure until dead. ... The postulated causes of death include cardiovascular, respiratory, metabolic, and psychological pathology.

The Crucifixion of Jesus guaranteed a horrific, slow, painful death. As the strength of the muscles of Jesus' lower limbs tired, the weight of His body had to be transferred to His wrists, His arms, and His shoulders. Within a few minutes of being placed on the Cross, Jesus' shoulders were dislocated.

Hello Jane. The legs of crucified criminals were often broken so as to speed up death. As you know, nails that were pierced into the feet plus a possible peg under the feet, helped to prop the body up. If this wasn't the case then the criminal wouldn't be able to breathe for very long - his lungs wouldn't expand. So their legs were broken which meant their lungs couldn't do their job.

However when the soldiers came to Jesus, they found that He had already died (Jesus consciously released His Spirit), so His legs were not broken. And this was in fulfilment of the Scripture, Psalm 34:20.

Have studied the Bible for a long time. Why did they break the legs of the robbers?

Hey Jesse,

If I may without offending, we have four, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John describing this confusing and miraculous day and I feel ( Matthew 28:9) is later in the morning. In Matthew, Mark, and Luke the angels told the women to go tell the 11 that Jesus had risen. In John 20 Mary Magdalene was the first to see the empty tomb and ran and run into Peter and John and they went and she probably went back with them as the other women were arriving, Peter and John went home.

To keep it short; when Jesus met the women, ( Matthew 28:9) they were on their way to tell the 11 when Jesus appeared to them and they held him by his feet. It does not tell us how far they had gone from the sepulchre. You may disagree but that is ok, Matthew 28:9 was after Jesus ascended and returned.

My understanding is when Jesus first ascended in John 20:17, His name was placed above all, what we see in ( Ephesians 1:17-23). Also, I feel this was the fulfillment of the Feast of Firstfruits, as the smoke of the sheaf of the Firstfruits ascended to God, so the Firstfruits of the dead, who is Jesus ascended to God, I feel that was the reason Jesus did not want Mary to touch Him.

Have a great day and God bless,

RLW

Belinda,

This is one of those instances where the Greek text gives us clarification on what the English text is saying. When Jesus said "Touch me not," we read that, and it seems like sort of a rude thing to say. It would be like going up to someone we love to hug them, and they say "Don't touch me."

But as brother Chris alluded to, the Greek word used for touch is the word HAPTO. It means to hold on to, cling to, or fasten yourself on to someone. So knowing that, we can better understand what Jesus meant. He was telling Mary to stop fastening yourself onto me. You see, she was not letting go. She was fastened on to Jesus.

In Matthew 28:9, it tells us that she had a "death grip" on His ankles. She was not going to let Him out of her sight again. So Jesus wasn't telling her "don't touch me." He was saying let go, stop clinging to me. There was a reason for this as we see in John 20:17. Jesus says for I am not yet ascended to my Father.

This is where the changeover comes in. This is where Jesus has revealed Himself as the resurrected one to Mary and she's got this grip on Him like she's never going to let go of Him, and Jesus is telling her that she has to let go because He has not yet gone to the Father.

So the changeover is that this is no longer going to be a physical relationship where have to you see me, hear me, and touch me to believe. Now it's going to be by faith. Paul ministered that change in 1 Corinthians 5:7 where he says "For we walk by faith, not by sight." The changeover is going from the natural feelings and human senses, to faith, believing and trusting in Christ and His word in spite what we see or feel.

Jesus wasn't saying "Don't touch me." He was ministering to her about the change that has to take place, which people have to live by faith, not by sight. Don't fasten yourself onto me, for I have to ascend up to the Father. After I ascend, then will I send my Spirit to dwell in you, and my Spirit will cause you to live by faith.

Belinda Smith Aiken,

Other than resurrection day, the first day of the week, this was the day of The Feast of Firstfruits. This feast is one of the three feasts that were held in Jerusalem, which is the first day after the Sabbath following Passover. Also, it was the first day of weeks counting the days of seven Sabbaths until the 50th day, which is the second harvest, Pentecost.

The Feast of First Fruits is the first harvest, they could not eat any of this harvest until they brought a sample sheaf to the Temple at sunrise on the first day after the Sabbath following Passover. The priest then waves the sheaf of grain from the first harvest for acceptance by God, the first fruits of the first harvest were offered to God.

Jesus is the First Fruits of those who slept, Mary Magdalene could not touch Jesus before he ascended because no one could partake of him before God accepted him. After he returned, they could touch Him, that is why Jesus told her "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father".

Just think, sunrise on the morning of the Feast of First Fruits, the priests waving the sheaf of grain left and right before the altar, and the women arriving at the Lord's tomb around the same time. ( Leviticus 23:9-14) ( John 20:17)

Jesus fulfilled the feast of Passover as the Lamb of God, without spot or blemish, without a bone broken, He fulfilled the Feast of Unleavened Bread with a perfect sinless life, He fulfilled the Feast of First Fruits being the first harvest the First Fruits of those who slept, and He fulfilled the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost), the second harvest by sending the Holy Spirit, the first fruits of the Spirit. There are three feasts not yet fulfilled.

God bless,

RLW

Chun sam,

Luke.22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

John.5:30-32 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

John 6:38-40 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John.14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

1Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1 Corinthians 15:25-28 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

May this help, pray and study and let the Holy Spirit be your guide.

RLW

Precious friend, IMKane: "Paul seems to be saying there were TWO gospels." Yes, Biblically Correct! Note the following 'Dispensational' Differences Between God's TWO Gospels:

Part I Gospel of the kingdom =

Gospel of the circumcision ( Galatians 2:7; Acts 3:25-26; Genesis 17:9-14)

Preached by John, Jesus, and the 12 ( Matthew 3:2; Matthew 4:17; Matthew 4:23; Matthew 9:35; Matthew 10:5-8)

The Prophecy Program for the Jews ( Luke 1:32-33; Luke 3:19-26; Daniel 2:44; James 1:1)

Preaching of The Cross as historical ( Acts 2:23,36; Acts 3:14-15; Acts 5:30)

Gospel to be believed = Christ's Name ( Matthew 16:16; John 20:31; 1 John 5:13)

Salvation by faith and water baptism ( Mark 1-4; Mark 16:16; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 2:38)

Justification without works is dead ( James 2:17; James 2:20; James 2:24; James 2:26)

Repentance emphasized along with faith ( Mark 1:15; Luke 3:8-14; Acts 3:19)

Reconciliation not mentioned.

Covers Matthew - Acts 8, then Tribulation ( Acts 3:19-21; Acts 8:12; Matthew 24:14)

Under The Law ( Matthew 5:17; Matthew 8:4; Matthew 23:2-3)

Good works will follow salvation ( Matthew 7:15-20; 1 John 2:3-5; 1 John 2:29; 1 John 3:7,10)

Rightly Divided From ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

Gospel Of GRACE

to be continued...

Amen, Brother Adam.

Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace.

Revelation 1:8. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come,( THE ALMIGHTY. )

When we die do we go to heaven,

Adam was a flesh-and-blood human being, so like us, his body was subject to wearing out, and one day his heart would stop, and the breath of life (spirit) would return back to God. Adam like us was not created immortal, he needed to eat of the Tree of Life to live forever, that is why it was hidden.

After Adam sinned it was a spiritual death not a physical death, the dwelling place for God in man, Satan's deception, physical life goes on after sin. Now we are under the judgment of condemnation and only by the grace of God and the gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ we are free from this judgment.

Jesus came and lived in the flesh and died and was resurrected so we could be redeemed from this state of death, giving us the opportunity of eternal life. Did Jesus return to heaven when He died? Jesus did not ascend to His Father until after He resurrected ( John 20:17).

The belief in our soul is immortal comes from ancient Greek philosophy, developed especially by two of the chief Greek philosophers, Plato and Socrates. The meaning of death, being a separation of the soul from the body also came from ancient Greek philosophy. This immortal soul and the meaning of death has been taught for so long it is not questioned today.

It is Platonism, Augustine of Hippo made a saint, held this philosophy. He was a theologian, philosopher with a strong influence on doctrines in the church, in the fourth and early fifth century.

We are buried mortal, dead, in corruption and we are raised immortally incorruptible ( 1 Corinthians 15:42-44)

All consciousness ends when we die. ( Psalm 6:5) ( Job 14:12-14) ( Job 17:13-16) ( Psalm 89:48) ( Psalm 115:17) ( Ecclesiastes 9:5-10)



We sleep in death until resurrection day, the day of redemption. ( 1 Corinthians 15:51) ( 1 Thessalonians 4:14). ( 1 Corinthians 15:52-54)

RLW

Adam,

Very well said, Amen!

One God, consisting of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. All co-equal, all co-eternal!

Thank you for helping stand up to defend Jesus. I will stand up to defend Jesus until the day I die. The gospel is simple and scripture is simple to understand and its truth must be shared to squash the lies.

John 1:14-15: "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me."

This describes Jesus being the Word.

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

This says the Word (Jesus) was God.

Genesis 1:26 "Let US make" (plural).

John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."

Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us".

God the father is referred to as God. I think most understand this. God also can refer to the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. I think most Bible readers understand this too. Jesus became a man and prayed to God, His Father. While being man he was still God. This does not mean He was his Father.

So, the human argument ignores scripture and claims Jesus wasn't ever God, because they can't humanly imagine Jesus talking to himself. This is a strawman argument, because no one believes Jesus was praying to himself.

The human argument against Jesus being part of the God head is akin to the skit of "Who's on first." Imagine an orange consisting of skin, pulp, and seeds like the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as described in 1 JOHN 5:7. Someone claims "the skin isn't part of the orange, because it's different than the seeds. Because it's impossible for the seeds to be the same as the skin, so it must not be an orange! Only one of the 3 can be an orange, so the other parts must not be part of the orange."

I also think there's an underlying spiritual battle occurring here. One must ask why someone is so motivated to undermine and discredit Jesus's divinity? Who would be behind such a goal? We know the answer. Tread carefully, stay in the Bible, and pray deeply about this before attacking Jesus on a website of Jesus followers.

Matthew 18:6, Matthew 12:36-37

D W L: John 3:17 God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.-- Notice it didn't say that God sent God, I can't believe God is trying to fool us.

Correct, It does say God "Is The Father, sending HIS SON." However, we Cannot Make a Correct Conclusion on ONLY one verse, When God Teaches "ALL of Scripture Is PROFITABLE for doctrine" ( 2 Timothy 3:16), Correct? Thus, we Also Check This Evidence:

Heb 1:4 Being MADE SO MUCH BETTER than the angels, as HE hath by inheritance obtained a MORE EXCELLENT NAME than they.

Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said He at any time, THOU ARE MY SON, this day have I begotten THEE? And again, I will be to HIM A Father, and HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON?

Heb 1:6 And again, when He Bringeth in The Firstbegotten into the world, He Saith, And let ALL the angels of God WORSHIP HIM.

Heb 1:7 And of the angels He Saith, Who maketh His angels spirits, and His ministers a flame of fire.

Heb 1:8 But Unto THE SON He Saith, THY Throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. = Notice IT DOES SAY:

"GOD, The SON!" AND "ALL the angels of God WORSHIP HIM!!" = Plain And CLEAR!!

Conclusion: No, God is not trying to "fool us" WHEN we "study ALL Scripture!" Amen?

Praise HIM Now And ForEverMore! Amen?

Much More Important Evidence Found In this Discussion: Link

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified!

D W L , yes , it's that simple . Thank you thank you thank you , much love in Christ .

The Father, and Son Jesus, and the spirit of God (Holy Ghost)

John 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.-- Notice it didn't say that God sent God, I can't believe God is trying to fool us.

Isaiah 35:8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.

Aren't we glad that we have this good simple gospel that even a fool shall not err therein.

Below are scriptures everyone should read and pray deeply for wisdom and understanding for. Beware of anyone trying to attack, disrespect, or demean Jesus or the name of Jesus. Jesus loves you and died for you. Scripture indicates that Jesus is God. Jesus is not God the father, but God the son. The 3 are all united as 1. There aren't 3 separate gods, there is 1 God with 3 parts as 1 John 5:7 says. We could debunk every one of the deniers' disengenuous arguments, but that would take a lot of space and most are closed off anyway. The same info is also online in countless websites. Satan loves going after any weakness he can find and people keep falling for the same tricks. Christians should simply pray about this and ask the holy spirit to either confirm or convict them on what the truth is. God bless...

1 John 5:7

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

John 1:1

Philippians 2:5

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

1 John 5:7

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 5:8

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

Matthew 1:23-25

Read all of the scriptures and ignore the cultists who stray from God's Word or distort scripture. Even children can understand what these verses mean so I think some adults are just wanting to reinforce what they already want to believe, because it's convenient for other reasons. Is a Christian a real Christ follower if he doesn't believe in the divinity of Christ? That is something we should pray deeply and study deeply about.

1 John 5:7

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

John 1:1

Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

1 John 5:7

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 5:8

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

Matthew 1:23-25

This sounds like an intellectually disingenuous question. Even children understand the concept of the Godhead or trinity- it's straight from God's word. If you don't understand it, that's fine, have you tried praying for wisdom and understanding. It's possible some of these comments are games a person is playing to try to pull some away from the truth to his cult-like beliefs not from the Bible. That's like doing the work of the devil. Here's some good reading material for the cultists.

1 John 5:7

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

John 1:1

Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

1 John 5:7

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 5:8

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

Matthew 1:23-25

Not sure how you like these verses in the Bible then, because it clearly says Jesus is God. To deny this is to deny God's word:

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."

John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

"the Word was God."

That's hard to deny that truth. Let's read that again.

"the Word was God."

And it sounds like you're saying "the Word wasn't God." The Bible says one thing, you're saying another- the opposite.

Satan is the father of lies and he is no doubt behind every major deception, especially among Christians. A Christian is a Christ follower. Does that term bother you since you deny the above verses about His diety? This twisting of scripture in order to achieve a certain narrative seems awfully like the CNN version of the Bible.

Let's continue with more truth in scripture to refute the false assumptions posted here...

Philippians 2:5 - 2:8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"

John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

John 20:28

"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

Precious brother Chris, thanks so much for your kind words of encouragement! I did have your verse in my list of over 150 Scriptures for The LORD JESUS CHRIST As Being The Almighty God! It was #:

113. JESUS CHRIST is Called "My God" ( John 20:28). Since there is "no other God" ( Isaiah 45:5) ( Isaiah 45:21-22), This Plainly And Clearly Declares, According To The Word Of Truth, That JESUS CHRIST is That God.

Your Excellent statement: "We can note how Jesus never rebuked Thomas for exclaiming, "My Lord and my God," can Certainly be connected With Confirming Scriptures, about "rebuking worship," {# 9 on my Previous list...}:

"And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." ( Revelation 19:10)

"And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. ( Revelation 22:8-9)

May you and all who "believe God's Word Of Truth," Please Be Richly Encouraged and Edified, waiting for our Great God And Saviour, JESUS CHRIST! ( Titus 2:13)

brother Chris Endrizzi

What a great list of very relevant Scripture showing the full Deity of our Lord Jesus. I was greatly enriched indeed GRACE_ambassador. I was looking for possibly a reference ( John 20:28) in your list, but may have missed it. We can note how Jesus never rebuked Thomas for exclaiming, "My Lord and my God". Rather, Thomas' faithlessness was addressed & now he believed & rejoiced in seeing his Master & his God. And how blessed are those who haven't been witnesses of those crucifixion wounds on the Lord, & still have faith to believe & call upon Him.

As I went out for my evening walk today, my mind & spirit was deeply impressed with a situation where a believer denies the deity of Christ & the impact that has on his salvation. And then coming to your three page response, I saw your question I had entertained a hour earlier, i.e. "If we Deny HIS Deity, how can HE FORGIVE us our sins?" I'm still working through that because of the gravity of its implications. Doesn't our salvation hinge on the fact that God laid down His Life for us? That the salvation He brought to us was "once for all" ( Hebrews 10:4-12)? Thank you for those great Scriptures giving irrefutable evidence of the Deity of Christ.

Hi Scott.

We tend to try and fit 3 days and 3 nights in between Friday to Sunday When Jesus rose from the grave. The reason for this is we know by scripture they wanted to get them off the cross because it was the preparation. and the sabbath was following. But it wasn't the day of sabbaths, it was the ( High sabbath ) that they was concerned about. It came earlier in the week. placing it sometime around Wednesday before 6pm. Ending 5:59 pm Thursday. "Their days are 6:01 to 5:59 As our days are 12:01 to 11:59."

"The High sabbath is one of the annual sabbaths, not the sabbath of days.Which is Saturday and can fall on any day".

They had 2 Sabbaths that week first the high sabbath, "annual" and the days of sabbath, "Saturday"

Note:

John 19:31. The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (FOR THAT SABBATH DAY WAS AN HIGH DAY,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

So that would account for the 3 days and 3 nights and Jesus rising on Sunday morning, which starts 6:01 pm. "On our clock this would be Saturday" On their clock it's Sunday.

Note:

John 20:1. THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK COMETH MARY MAGDALENE EARLY, WHEN IT WAS YET DARK, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

Not sure how accurate but we are in the vicinity.

I hope this helps God bless.

Phyllis,

Our English bibles tell us in John 20:22, "And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:"

But the literal translation of Verse 22 from the Greek text for the term "He breathed on them," it says literally "He breathed in." That is it! "He breathed in and said to them." What does that mean that He breathed in?

Some people point out the fact that the word for breathe is found in two places in the Old Testament, one is in Genesis 2:7, where the Lord literally breathed into the face of Adam and he became a living soul. And then in Ezekiel 37:9, where he tells Ezekiel to go out and prophecy, and the wind comes and blows on the dead bones and they become alive.

But the difference between this instance in John 20:22 and the two places I just mentioned is that in the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Old Testament, in Genesis 2:7 and Ezekiel 37:9 it has what is called the preposition EIS with the accusative.

It says God breathed into Adam. The wind and breath of God breathed into the dead bones. There is no prepositional phrase here in John 20:22. It is just the word breathed in.

God breathed in, He took a breath inward, and He said Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

But notice that it does not say that they received the Holy Spirit, because this text is where many get the "two experiences" where here they were saved, and in Acts Chapter 2, the baptism of the Holy Spirit is a "second experience" that every Christian needs. The problem here is that Jesus gave them the command, receive the Holy Ghost. It doesn't say they received Him!