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I'm sorry, this is incorrect, Chris. Resting on God's Holy Day Isaiah 58:13, the only day God EVER blessed and made holy, IS the very worship you claim didn't happen for that day. Obeying God's Commandments IS worship of God and those who obey ARE worshiping God by that very act.

Sin is the breaking of the Commandments 1 John 3:4. So sin does still 100% exist and Christians are fully capable of sinning, saved or not. Therefore the 10 Commandments still 100% exist and are valid for Christians.

The Laws were clearly given in the OT to teach the Israelites how to be right with God after the Fall of this world in Eden. Under that system, they needed to do continuous sacrifices to cleanse them of sin. Jesus has become the unequaled, perfect sacrifice for all sin and abolished that system of sacrifice with His Crucifixion. All of the Mosaic CEREMONIAL Laws, that were made such a heavy burden by the Pharisees and Sadducees, have been abolished as well.

The 10 Commandments have absolutely NOT been abolished, and will never BE abolished. That is one of the biggest reasons Jesus did what He did with His life and sent us His Spirit afterward that had been trained up to obey ALL of the Commandments.

Jesus obeyed ALL the 10 and we are to live as He lived. John 15:10 1 John 2:6

Christian MEANS follower of Christ.

The 10 Commandments were the ONLY Commandments God spoke ALOUD to Israel. And they were the ONLY Commandments written IN STONE by the finger of GOD, twice.

God SPOKE this world into existence. God SPOKE the 10 Commandments into existence - NEVER to be altered or repealed.

Psalm 89:34

It is very WRONG to tell Christians that they will be put to death if they try to keep the Commandments and fail. Nowhere in scripture does it plainly state that. Many false preachers/teachers have spread that vicious LIE.

James 3:2 protects us from such an awful, and abominable, lie.

Scripture plainly teaches that Christians should obey ALL the 10 Commandments just exactly as Jesus Christ did.

John 15:10

1 John 2:6

What does 'Christian' mean? It means FOLLOWER of Jesus Christ and ALL His Ways. He is the Way and the Truth and the (eternal) Life IF we live as He lived and FOLLOW His Ways. All of His disciples kept all the 10 Commandments, as well as Paul and all later followers of Christ's Ways up to around 300 A.D. when many things were changed by the Emperor Constantine and the later Roman Catholic Church.

Shame on those preachers and teachers who tell new Christians that they will go to hell if they obey the Commandments of God Almighty. Nothing would make LESS sense than for those who love Jesus and strive to live righteously in a fallen, sinful world to be sent to hell by God.

Review the 10 Commandments carefully, and prayerfully, and think again if they are so impossible to keep. This is a lie from the pits of hell.

The Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ, who lived sinless His entire life, was primed during His lifetime to obey the Commandments. That Spirit is put into new, genuine, believers and ASSISTS in obeying the Commandments. Because it is Jesus' Spirit within us that makes this possible it is NOT works salvation. HIS Spirit is doing the WORK because we are not capable of our own power.

Yes, Bro Dan, and we are to live as Jesus lived. 1 John 2:6

Jesus kept ALL of the 10 Commandments. John 15:10

We are to strive to do the same. If we have the Holy Spirit, it is not a burden at all; as you said, and provided scripture, we do it because we love Jesus.

The 10 Commandments are not at all difficult to keep and James 3:2 has our back when we stumble.

It's nice to follow you brothers, in a way it's right everything u al write and refer to. I will try and come up with an input that is about daily life with Jesus Christ.

First, He never sleeps. Why do we have to? Yes The body of sin Screams for sleep. And then we know, we who have read a bit, that we have some good words that explain us about sleep in Proverbs 19:15 and Proverbs 20:13

I have to get a little personal here now. For my uncle, it can be said lukewarm. Think it's okay with Christmas and elves. Hymns and songs. But do not give up the self to anyone other than oneself. This is a stage where a person can become proud and stubborn. So how can I see that he can surrender to Jesus. Because we have some words that make it not "my business" to see who gets fair or not. I leave it to the Holy Spirit.

1 Timothy 1:9

Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, Here we clearly see who the law is for.

2 Timothy 3:16

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

So what does that mean to be fair and righteous? Firstly, James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

1 John 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

Romans 6:1-4

Romans 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

Proverbs 4:18

Romans 6:1

We have so many benefits we who are born after Christ! There is nothing to wonder about. He who believes is saved and righteous. He did this once for all. 1 Corint 15:22

Jesus Christ obeyed all the 10 Commandments His entire life. John 15:10 If He had not, He would not have been 100% SINLESS (without blemish) and His sacrifice would not have been so powerful to accomplish all that it did.

We are to walk just as Jesus walked. 1 John 2:6

When we take His Spirit into us, that is the same event as us receiving a new heart - spoken of in Ezekiel 36:26-27. Look closely at those verses. "I will ... CAUSE you to walk in My statutes, and ye SHALL keep My judgments, and do them."

Christ observed the 7th Day Sabbath every week of His life and it is the 4th Commandment. We are to do the same.

Resting in the security of His providence is a good thing to do, but it is not a substitute for the Sabbath Day of rest instituted at Creation Week - because none of the Commandments have ever been repealed. Gen. 2:2-3 God blessed and sanctified only one day ever, and what God blesses cannot be reversed. Num. 23:20

It is the only day He ever claimed to be HIS Day. Isaiah 58:13 It is the GENUINE Lord's Day that John refers to in Rev. 1:10. There is no other reference anywhere in scripture to that term and the Isaiah verse identifies which day that is.

Hi Kim.

It's not so big a deal to go to church on Sunday as it is to neglect to worship on the Sabbath Saturday, as God Commanded those who love Him in the 4th Commandment.

And the 10 Commandments are not at all difficult to keep, as many Christians have been brainwashed to believe.

The biggest issue they have is with the 4th Commandment - The Sabbath. Which is also very easy to keep once you make up your mind to follow God and His Ways. Jesus kept all the Commandments. John 15:10 We are to walk (live) as Jesus walked (lived.) 1 John 2:6. Even Paul is recorded in scripture as keeping all the 10 Commandments. Acts 21:24 All of Jesus' disciples kept the Sabbath Commandment immediately after His crucifixion - which speaks volumes. Luke 23:54-56

The 10 Commandments

1. Only worship God

2. Don't worship demons (idols)

3. Don't take God's Name in vain

4. Observe the 7th Day Sabbath

5. Honor parents

6. Don't murder

7. No adultery

8. Don't steal

9. Don't lie

10. Don't covet

Where exactly is the difficulty in keeping those? The first 4 teach us exactly how to love God. The last 6 teach us how to love mankind.

The Sabbath, as well as the 10 Commandments, were given to everybody.

Read the dramatic account in Exodus of God speaking the 10 Commandments ALOUD to the world in the presence of the Israelites and you will be convinced of their significance to all who worship God Almighty. His voice was so booming and terrifying that the people begged Moses to ask God not to speak aloud anymore. God SPOKE our world into existence; God SPOKE the Commandments into existence. Exodus chapter 19 through 20.

"My covenant will I NOT BREAK, nor ALTER the thing that has come out of My lips."

Psalm 89:34

Ephesians 5:4, in context: Ephesians 5:1-20,, 1John 2:21-29, context: 1John 2, Matthew 12:36, 1John 3:7,

Proverbs 14:9, Hebrews 11:36, in context Hebrews 11, Isaiah 63:8, James 3:14, Revelation 22:14,15, Revelation 21:27,

Hopefully these are helpful

I would prefer you to read the whole book of Luke. The book of Luke talks about Jesus' life. Then, you can read the book of Revelation. It is really important to read that book.You may not have to read all of it as it is pretty confusing, but at least read the Revelations from God.

Welcome to the family! John is a great book start with, because it talks about the life of Jesus. I like Philippians. It's a short book with a lot of meat. There are other short books before and after it that are all good with lots of wisdom to be gleaned.

Hi Raymond

So glad you have come to our Savior, Jesus Christ!

My suggestion is to get to know Jedus in each of the gospels first. Learn about His life, death, and resurrection. Learn about what He said and how He prayed to His Father.

God bless you today

Hi Jesse

Agreed

The Last Supper Discourse is full of amazing truths that really bless me every time I read through it. I am so glad that we have this lengthy record of what Jesus said to the disciples and prayed to His Father. Just beautiful!

Raymond,

My favorite Chapter in the New Testament is John Chapter 15. Jesus speaks about the vine and the branches, and that apart from Him, we can do nothing. In my opinion, it is a tremendous chapter and puts my walk with the Lord into proper perspective!

I am a new believer and I am asking for any reading suggestions thanks.

Poor thing and honestly what most people think they know is gossip not gospel. they just repeat what was taught to them. There weren't people back then, your kidding right. maybe you should study history there is actual proof of it documented and it includes Chistian's the Greeks, Hebrews, Israel, Jewish people and nations, ruins of them as well all which line up with the Bible. Go travel to the middle east and see it. Like Jesus told Thomas stick your hand in my side and the holes in my hand if you don't believe I rose from the dead thus the saying: doubting Thomas was born, two things (1) it's faith, faith in things you can see is not faith, faith is believing of the unseen, like God, you say you believe in God, well guess what so does satan and it will no more help satan then it will you. Hebrews 11:1

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

Ok (2) 2 Corinthians 13:12 Study to show thyself approved unto God and not your family study and then tell you, got that now look here John 14:26

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." and

Now one is anointed by the Holy Ghost 1 John 2:27

"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."

Did you read that, (and ye not that any man teach you)

If you believe in God then read the Bible, read it like any other book, like a history book and learn what it says, about the people places and events that took place it has amazing accounts in it of real men and their lives and journeys

I can testify that people believe some dumb things about the Bible, Jesus called them traditions of men and fables Good luck

King James Version (KJV)

John 14:26

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

1 John 2:27

"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."

King James Version (KJV)

There is only one way, knowing God's word. When you hear preaching some of them boys can make sins sound good (I'm exaggerating, some) but if you don't know God's word you really have no idea do you. 2Coronthians 13:12 Study to show theyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2Timothy3:12Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

13But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

14But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

John 14:26

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

1 John 2:27

"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."

And the word was made flesh, Low, I come in a volume of a book it is written of me. You have Jesus right there, The KJV Holy Bible, it's food that will make you grow.

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Hi Dennis.

Ephesians 6:12.

Just wanted to bring clarity to what I posted and what has been presented. I used 2 Corinthians 4:4. You see the work of Satan that hinders the mind of most of the world.

All the blessings mentioned in the other post is offered to the "whole world" but few will receive it. Mathew 7:13-14.

The Lord is calling a people OUT of the world."His Church" starting with the Apostles who was to be a whiteness but to be separate from the world where Satan is the prince.

Here is just a few scripture references of the Lord and our relationship to the world as we stand.

John 17:9-16.

John 12:31.

1 John 2:15-17.

John 1:6-12.

In Revelation-12:9. Scripture says Satan deceives the whole world. You see by then the church is taken out of the world Gods children Will be with him, They're children of the light. Satan is the ruler of darkness. Ephesians 6:12.

When a person is not born again "Born from above", He is what is called "In the flesh" and that flesh is controlled by principalities, powers, and rulers of darkness. His father is the prince of this world! Satan rules in his heart.

The Lord came to give you a NEW heart and a new spirit as he promised the Jews in Ezekiel 36:26-27.

More references:

Beginning with Luke 4:5-7. Here you see Satan tries to temp Jesus to bypass the cross where he will bruise Satans head and have the final climax in Revelation.

Did you notice, Jesus never refuted satans claim?

This is why Paul stated this in Romans 8:19-22.

This is why Abraham pitched tents looking for a land who's maker is God.

Peter says we are strangers and pilgrims.

When Christ come set up his literal kingdom he will rule with a rod of iron and rule in mans heart.

That has not happened yet.

God bless.

Donna,

Please keep reading the WORD.

Here's some scriptures about what your Pastor said

2Timothy 3:1-9, 2Timothy 3:12-17, 2Peter 3:3-14, Revelation 2, Revelation 9,

Scripture about the Church

1John 2:15-29, Genesis 49:1,8,9,10,11,12,18, Micah 4:1, Isaiah 2:2, Acts 2:17, Hebrews 10,

1Corinthians 6:2-3, Colossians 1:18,24

Don't worry: Philippians 4:6-8,

Hopefully these are helpful

One night while laying bed and praying I was overcome by the Spirit, and I started speaking rather praying in tongues the next thing I know is that it was morning and I had prayed in tongues the whole night. So, I know they do exist are a sign of having the Holy Ghost, Baptism of the Holy Ghost. Now as far as interpretations and Prophesying I'm sure it exists but knowing whether the person is really doing it I don't know if you can tell. I've attended Churches that do it speak and interpret it felt strange. I can tell you this that all gifts and answers to prayers depend on our righteousness, James 5:16

"Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

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I suggest you do a word search on tongues and study it, comparing all the verses which pertain to it and pray because many times when I have a question on scripture it's revealed at a later time while I'm reading or sometime while praying. But the most important thing is obeying God's word, but one must know it to obey. Here are some verses to help you in understanding God's word: 2 Timothy 2:15, John 14:26, 1 John 2:27, Romans 12:1 I'm not sure why or how I begun speaking in tongues, but I do know it's a sign of having the Holy ghost as we see happen in ACTS, In ACTS there is a verse that says in reference to it that says they only yet believe and have not received the Holy ghost as we. I believe that if you are truly saved the baptism of the Holy Ghost happens so the believing in Jesus is emphasized by believing it in your heart, like it's real, knowing it with doubt. John 5:39

"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

faith without works is dead, read, study, pray, and serve God, faithfulness in whatever you do, do it as unto the Lord not man. Obedience.

Some older editions of the Authorized Version use "our's" rather than "ours" (cf 1 John 2:2) "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world (the Old Scofield, the Allen 1952 text used in their Longprimer, etc.).

Was this common usage in Elizabethan English during the 1500's and 1600's? Do you know when it was revised? I didn't realize the original Authorized Version had ever undergone revisions.

Thank you

Hello, the Bible doesn't directly address such a topic, but it clearly says homosexuality is a sin and detestable to God.

I don't believe anyone is born with a desire to commit sodomy. Children aren't born with a lust to commit heterosexual fornication or adultery either.

It's shameful how society has tried so hard to sexualize children and force or brainwash them into confirming to others' ideals- usually the parents, teachers, or other influencers. Later in life children will grow into young adults and will face increasing temptation. People often confuse ones choices and opportunity as somehow being personality and orientation-defining things. In reality, people face temptation of sin and have a choice to make each time, regardless of their perceived self-identity. Many flip flop on what they think they want, even throughout life. This and many other factors debunk the 'born that way' lie.

Evidence shows that how a child is raised plays a signficant role in how they view the world, including their interest in the opposite sex. Those with drama at home or a missing parent has a significant impact.

So, when parents assume their child is gay I wonder: what is their definition of gay? Just because someone currently uses more femine or masculine behavior doesn't automatically equate to them wanting and choosing to commit the sin of sodomy.

Sadly, we hear all kinds of satanic worldly morals on TV propaganda and in movies trying to deceive people into believing that unnatural relations are 'normal'. God is very clear in his Word what He thinks of it. He loves everyone and wants the best for them and believe He has compassion on anyone struggling with their identity, but for those who intentionally commit evil and vile perversions against God they will reap what they sow. All must choose whether to conform to the world's morals or to God's morals. 1 John 2:15. God bless.

In response to "John J"

There are many sins! Idolatry, Fornication, Witchcraft, Pride, etc... All of these sins fall under three areas LUST OF THE FLESH,LUST OF THE EYES, AND THE PRIDE OF LIFE |1 John 2:16|! They are not all classified as stealing! But what they are classified as are sins against a Holy and Righteous God AND transgression of the LAW | 1 John 3:4|!

With that said ALL the sins in God's Word minus one are forgivable...The only unforgivable sin in God's eyes is denying Christ Jesus! | Matthew 10:33| Jude 1:4 | Proverbs 30| Which is blasphemy of the Holy Ghost! | Matthew 12:31| This is saying that Christ Jesus did not die on the cross and send us the Comforter! The Holy Ghost is our Comforter!

We must be born again for our sins to be washed away | John 3:7 |

I noticed one of the comments state there are "7 deadly sins" God says ALL sin causes DEATH! | Romans 5:12| It says there in Romans that death passed upon ALL men! This is our physical death...But there is DEATH beyond our physical DEATH and that is an eternity in HELL the SECOND death this is spoken of in Revelation | Revelation 20:14| This second death is for those that have not been SAVED by the Grace of God through FAITH in Christ Jesus...causing BLASPHEMY of the HOLY GHOST!

Hi Donna. I think that 'doubt' is a very natural, logical mental attitude, as if we accept everything a person says or given from the media, we would become very vulnerable & looked upon as gullible. By definition, 'doubt' is to show uncertainty about something, or to even express distrust or suspicion. It is a human trait that can be both used correctly (as in wanting more information to verify facts), or incorrectly (holding onto an understanding/belief when the one giving the information is actually trustworthy). A little child will always be vulnerable as he/she will readily accept the words of another. Some adults are also notoriously gullible, easily swayed by a person's convincing argument & presentation. But the wise person, will take to heart what is given & pursue research or other checks to ascertain the truth.

You mentioned Thomas. Normally, one could say that he was a wise & careful man wanting more proof of the Lord's resurrection. But his doubt was unjustified because he already received the Lord's Words about the resurrection ( Matthew 16:21; John 2:18-22; John 10:17,18) & the men who brought him this news were his trustworthy friends & partners. So we see here, that Thomas was the type that wouldn't settle on anyone's words, even the Lord's, only accepting what he could physically see or touch. So Jesus' Words to him, "be not faithless, but believing". For Thomas' faith to be real, he had to believe what was told to him by worthy competent people. Just as we express faith in God's Word for its Truth & its Authorship, unlike those who reject God, who also doubt His Word.

So, you can talk to God about things that you don't understand - for His Spirit to make it clear to you. This is not doubt - just honest inquiries to learn more. But it would be doubt if God's Word makes it plain to you & you want more proof or try to find anything to change that Word. Gideon laid out his 'fleece' before the Lord ( Judges 6:36-40) showing doubt in God's clear Word.

James 1:5,

Jesus taught that some couldn't understand "though hearing" Proverbs 28:5, Matthew 13:13, When I first started reading scripture I had to pray & persist & pray again & repent & confess. Then I could understand but even after that there have been times I've had to pray for understanding.

Luke 24:45, John 14:26, 1 John 2:27,

I also pray GOD will open your understanding.

Hopefully these are helpful to you

Hi Louis.

For anyone to come in the presence of God he has to be perfect, Perhaps this is why no one has come in the presence of God and lived. That is what Christ came to through the work on the cross. Hebrews 10:12-17.

It is the spirit that work in you after conversion. Philippians 2:13. Philippians 1:6.

We are to be in agreement with the spirit and bare the fruit produced by the vine. John 15:1-8.

Anything that is done in the flesh and not through the influence of the spirit is not accepted, Your works will be tried by fire. 1 Corinthians 3:11-17.

That which is done in your own strength lacks the ability and authenticity to please God, but the spirit gives life to this fleshly nature captured in these sinful bodies. Romans 8:5-14.

It is important for a Christian to not attempt to ad to the finish work on the cross. ( We should acknowledge the works we do adds nothing to your salvation, that's been taken care of you can't loose it.)

In our walk we will stumble: 1 John 2:1. 1 John 1:7-10. Let's not loose sight of Philippians 1:6.

God bless.

I came across this link on the Web site about "race mixing": Link. The Bible does not forbid different ethnic groups to marry. God forbade and forbids the saved to marry the unsaved. Deuteronomy Chapter 7:3-4: "4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly."

Other verses included on the page don't even pertain to ethnic groups. They pertain to sexual immorality, heterosexual marriage, an illegitimate person, The Creation, saved people's unity in God, and a saved person's identity in Jesus Christ. You also include Acts 17:26 ("one blood"), which also has nothing to do with so-called separation of so-called races.

Your list twists scriptures to promote the lies told by Whites who that helped to justify chattel slavery, lynching of Black Americans, legalized segregation and prejudice, racism, and ethnic discrimination of Black people and persons of other ethnic groups. Also see From Indentured Servitude to Racial Slavery, PBS, and Laws that banned mixed marriages (May 2010), Ferris State University; You Tube video, One Race - Ken Ham Video Teaching January 19, 2022 - Ken Ham also explains the connection between evolution and racism and the curse of Canaan (not Ham); and Answers in Genesis book, One Race One Blood. You can also read the chapters online free.

It is a great disappointment to see that once again, people are using the Bible to justify the sins of pride and hatred. Which ethnic group or groups are superior to all other ethnic groups? According to Romans 3:23 and Romans 6:23 no ethnic group is superior. This list is against God's holy word and comes from the flesh and Satan. We need to read the Word of God in context and not use God's Word to justify the sins of pride, variance, and hatred ( Galatians 5:19-20 and Proverbs 16:5). 1 John 2:16; 1 Corinthians 7:39.

This is what happens after we are born again. I will comment on this after you read this.

Matthew 12

43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walks through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none.

44 Then he saith, I will return into my house (You) from whence I came out; and when he is come, he finds it EMPTY, swept, and garnished.

45 Then goeth he, and takes with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and They enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

This is no reflection on you ok? You're a new Christian and sometimes if you don't get into the Bible and find out what's available to you as a Believer, evil spirits will come back and try to make you doubt your Salvation. We have to grow up and fit inside the Armor spoken of in Ephesians 6. That's Your Goal. Your faith has to be fed spiritual food EVERY DAY.

The fact that those spirits are troubling you is Proof of your Salvation. You have Jesus as your savior and he has given you the Holy Spirit as your teacher. Call on the Holy Spirit to help reveal who you are in Jesus Christ. You will learn to be aware when He is speaking to your new Alive Spirit that Jesus turned on full power the day you were Saved.

Make time every day to read the Bible. Sometimes I did it at lunch. This is you furnishing your "house" with Jesus. Either it will look sparse or it will look beautiful furnished with faith.

Romans 10:17

"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

(Jesus)

If your Bible has a concordance at the back; I would read all the New Testament scriptures under the heading of FAITH. Read, 1 John 2:20. The unction is the Holy Spirit.

Read the entire New Testament before the Old Testament. Learn how Jesus did things and preached. How he taught Faith to his followers_which is what we are :)

I have a rule myself to let the HOLY Spirit teach us as we read. 1 John 2:27, John 14:26,

Sometimes we have to work at "unlearning" what someone tells us the Bible says. GOD's WORD is a "living Word" it teaches, corrects, edifies._.. 2 Timothy 3:16, & gives us wisdom. James 1:5,

Genesis 34, is the account. Notice : Genesis 34:2, they were Hivite

Exodus 23:28, Exodus 34:11, Exodus 33:2, Genesis 10:15-19, Joshua 9,



Hopefully this is all helpful.

Thank you "GiGi" for pointing out her approximate age through scriptural knowledge. Genesis 30:19-31, Genesis 31:38-41,

Genesis 33:13-17, it says after they met Esau, they built a house & booths for cattle it doesn't say exactly how long they were there. It appears they may have left when Joseph was about 6 yrs. old because Genesis 31:41, But it was before Joseph was 17, Dinah seems to be older sister, they then pitched a tent._ Genesis 33:18-20 The only accounts of age we're given is Joseph was born & Genesis 30:25, Genesis 37:1-2, yet Joseph went to find his brethren in (Shechem) so was this timing, a historical account putting both situations about the same time? Genesis 37:11-14, because later Israel/Jacob tells Joseph about his mother's death & burial, that happened on Journey Genesis 35:1, Genesis 35:15-20, Genesis 35:27-29, Genesis 48:1-7, Genesis 45:25, Genesis 46:6,

Donna,

You are correct about the wine being more like grape juice if we were to compare it with the wine we have today. If they sold the same wine today, I honestly don't think anyone would buy it because the alcohol content would be too low for today's wine drinker.

The question that comes up from time to time is if this is fermented wine that John is talking about in Chapter 2. First of all, the word for wine always indicates the fruit from the vine. The custom in those days, because of the bad water, was to drink wine that has been diluted with water. Sometimes it's as much as nine parts water, one part wine, just to bring down the alcohol level.

So their wine would be nothing like the wine we have today. Their alcohol level in their drinks was much lower than ours. So people say, "Why did Jesus create wine so that people could get drunk?"

Well, it doesn't say that He did. But they did say that it was the best wine that they had, the proof of the miracle. This wine was being consumed at the wedding feast according to John Chapter 2. Sometimes this feast could last a week long, celebrating day and night for an entire week. It says in John 2:10 that "men have well drunk." It doesn't say they were drunk, but have well drunk, meaning they have probably been drinking non-stop for a few days now.

But like you say, the wine they had was way different to what we have today. If someone today were to drink the wine they had back then, I think it would be fair to say that they would compare it to grape juice. Can you imagine drinking today's wine non-stop for a few days. That would probably kill a person from alcohol poisoning!

John 2:10-11 debunks the grape juice argument, because it says in verse 10 that people could get drunk from it. I'm not familiar with any Bible verse talking about marijuana.