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Salvation (Part 5)

In 1 John 2:18-19, he writes, "Little children, it is the last hour; and according as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come; from this we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they were of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out, in order that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us."

John is stating that those who are of the antichrist came out from the Christian fellowship. He teaches that the reason they chased after false doctrine and a false spirit, not staying with the fellowship of believers, is because they were never truly believers.

Sadly, the same is true today. There are many in our churches professing to be Christians, but who have no desire to hear or obey the truth of God's Word. Indeed, many so-called church leaders are not even teaching the Word of God from their pulpits, because they don't want to lose the numbers of people attending their services.

But the truth from God's Word still differentiates those who are truly saved from those who are just talking and acting like Christians, being devoid of the indwelling Spirit of Christ.

This is what the Bible teaches about salvation. The change in emphasis from salvation by God to salvation by man is part of the apostasy of the last days. Jesus said believers would be known by their fruits, not by their human works ( Matthew 7:16).

Sorry this was long but I wanted to explain why I believe salvation is permanent, cannot be lost!

He also said, in Matthew 7:21-23, "Not everyone saying to me, 'Lord, Lord' will enter into the kingdom of heaven; but the one doing the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? And in your name did we not cast out demons? And in your name did many works of power?' And then I will confess to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, the ones working lawlessness."

Hi Sacha.

Yes it means love, Agape I believe this love for the brothern is assisted by the Holyspirit enabling us to be completely given over to one another, John has a lot to say about this love in his gospel and his letters. 1 John 2:5.

But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

This verse seems to suggest when this particular love is present in you for the brothern " here by we KNOW we are in him. This is part of the gifts of the spirit and also a fruit of the spirit. And also the love Peter struggled with in the flesh but when the Holyspirit indwelled him he was committed till his death.

1 Corinthians 13:13. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

You can have a look at the following Scriptures:

Psalm 118:8,9; Jeremiah 17:5-10; Psalm 146:3; John 2:23-25. The Truths you seek are written in them.

Hello Carolyn,

Corinthians 13:8 is where it is written. Corinthians 13 is a great chapter on love/charity.

God Bless.

Isaiah chapter 22 only has 25 verses. Are you sure that you need help with this passage or another one?

What does Isaiah 22:20-30 means in laymen terms

No problem Paul,

On this "God and Jesus are not the same" all I can do is give you my perception on this. As other people may have different views. Maybe others more learned than I would like to share but I will proclaim what I feel about our Lord Jesus Christ. I do not believe Jesus Christ is God the Father as it seems pretty obvious to me as they are two, Father and Son. Although things like Jesus stating "I and the Father are One" and "If you have seen me you have seen the Father" some people may use those to proclaim that "Jesus is God". As I have said before I really have no problem with people saying Jesus is God as they are One. As God is Spirit the Father being in the Son and the Son in the Father is truth. They being One. All things that the Father has have been given to the Son.

Jesus Christ being the Elect or Chosen One of God. He is the Word of God and the Perfect Lamb of God. The Mediator between God Almighty and man. Sent to us by our Perfect Father in Heaven to bear our sins on His shoulders.(1 John 2:1-2. By the Glorious Grace and love that God has for us. I believe Isaiah 42 is a good chapter, in the Old Testament, that speaks about Jesus Christ.

Maybe some other verses of Jesus and the Father not being the "same" even though they are One:

Proverbs 30:4

Matthew 26:39

John 8:17-18

John 20:17

( 1 Timothy 2:5

The Book of John is my favorite out of the four books of the journey of Chirst. Reading chapter 15-17 is good to see correlation between the Father and Son.

I hope what I have replied helps you. This is Truth to me in how my eyes have been lead to perceive the Lord Jesus Christ. And no person has taught me these things.

God Bless you brother.

This is a Bible forum ,why am i hearing about politics ,its unacceptable to me . How about i tell you all about my stamp collecting ? Or my holidays last year ? No ? I thought not . No politics please .

This shows how what we hear is colored by what we think we know to the point it twists what is said into a falsehood. This is how witnesses at the trial spoke as they did, saying Jesus said He would destroy the (temporal) temple and rebuild it in 3 days. This same way of hearing is destroying an entire nation because people are doing the same with the words of our former president to fit their narrative.

I believe that Mary, being a devout believer, knew Isaiah 25 and saw the implications of that prophecy in the lack of wine at the wedding in Cana. Notice she did not ask Jesus to do anything, just called his attention to the symbolism. She did not demand He do something. I believe his response was not rude but confirmation to her of who he was, using the term Woman. If one can see it as an authoritative statement not an insult. When he says "Mine hour is not yet come", it appears He is not talking about His ministry, but His death, again confirming who He is. This seemed to prompt Mary into action, recognizing the manifestation of the scripture through his words. He satisfied the need as it fits the prophecy of Isaiah 25, a very recognizable prophecy of who He was. He would again refer to her as Woman at the Cross. Again, authoritative, not rude.

I love the Word of God and I trust the Word of God :)

Dear Harold, the short answer to that is: our salvation with its promises are given by God our Creator & Redeemer & are not from the intellect or authority of man. If man had devised this plan & given us an assurance, we have every reason to doubt & despair. But if God has done the Work of saving man, even to the giving of His Son to secure our salvation, then we know that He can be wholly depended on for that salvation & indeed, every promise given to us. John 6:37: "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out", is Jesus' personal promise to each one who has been appointed to receive eternal life & who approaches Jesus via the Cross. None who come to God in this way (His Way) will ever be rejected.

But the long answer is found in the reading of the whole Epistle of John. I can't share it in depth, but if you read it carefully with some things in mind, you'll receive much confirmation & blessing to your heart. There are four main reasons the Apostle John gives for writing this letter: 1 John 1:4, "These things write we unto you, that your joy may be full"; 1 John 2:1: "These things write I unto you, that ye sin not"; 1 John 2:26: "These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you"; and 1 John 5:13: "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."

As you read this epistle, keeping in mind those four reasons for writing given by John (i.e. for the fullness of your joy, to abstain from sin, be aware of & reject false teaching, and to know for sure that eternal life is your possession both now & into eternity), the Spirit Who inspired these Truths, will confirm to your heart that what has taken place in your life, is not false or wasted, but done in God's Power & Plan for you. Heaven is your present possession - walk on joyfully. The Lord bless you.

Ephesians 4:30 30And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Most of us grieves the Holy Spirit = when we disobey our Lord, the Holy Spirit is burden with sorrow, so it cannot blend or unite with our human spirit. When we: lie, even white lies but don't repent, gossip, spread false doctrine, judge others, unkind or ungodly thoughts, finding faults with others, blaming others for our mistakes, anger and being deceitful, manipulating others to get your ways, self-justification, adultery, fornication, stubbornness, prideful, refuse to speak to family members, homosexuality, others.



1 John 2:15 - 16 15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Here are four specific examples of situations in which the disciples didn't "get it," Holy Spirit not in them.

In John 4:31-34, the disciples encouraged Jesus to eat, and He replied, "I have food to eat of which you do not know." Jesus' closest followers thought their Master was referring to physical food, so He explained to them, "My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to finish His work."

Matthew and Mark report that Jesus taught His hearers that certain things coming out of an individual defile him or her, not specific, forbidden foods that enter into a person or failing to perform a ritual such as hand washing. The disciples asked for an explanation. Jesus gently rebuked them and explained real problems arose from "evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness." Every one of "these evil things," He said, "come from within and defile a man" ( Mark 7:21-23).

This can happen to us today, if and when we grieve the Holy Spirit.

Rebecca, may the Spirit grace you with his understanding.

Most things in God's word have to be discerned by applying multiple scriptures and all applied against:

1 John 2:27 But the anointing (Holy Ghost in you) which ye have received (by grace) of him (Holy Ghost) abideth in you, and you NEED NOT THAT ANY MAN TEACH YOU; but as the same anointing (the Holy Ghost) teacheth you ALL things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it (the Holy Ghost) hath taught you, ye shall abide (become one) in him (the Holy Ghost).

Ephesians 4:21 If so be that ye have HEARD him (the Holy Ghost), and have been taught by him (the Holy Ghost), as the truth is in Jesus (THE WORD OF GOD).

Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by HEARING, and HEARING by the WORD OF GOD (studying, meditating).

The scriptures were written by men under the influence of the Holy Ghost.

Revelation 19:10 .... for the testimony (words) of Jesus (THE WORD) is the spirit of prophecy.

2 Peter 1:21 For prophecy came.....as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Now to your question, what does it mean to blaspheme the Holy Ghost. Since the WORD (truth) was written by the Holy Ghost, you blaspheme when you call his WORD a lie. Example:

1 Timothy 2:3-4 For this is GOOD AND ACCEPTABLE in the sight of God our Saviour; who WILL HAVE all men to be saved, and come to the KNOWLEDGE of the truth.

Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, thy WILL BE DONE in earth, as it (HIS WILL) is in heaven.

1 Timothy 4:10-11 .....who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN, specially those that BELIEVE.

(vs) 11 These things COMMAND AND TEACH.

Psalm 22:27 ALL the ends of the world shall REMEMBER and TURN unto the LORD: and ALL KINDREDS OF THE NATIONS SHALL WORSHIP BEFORE THEE.

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when ALL THINGS shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him (Father) that put ALL THINGS under him (Son) that GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.

WE all blaspheme on our journey to TRUTH just REPENT and TURN to the new found TRUTH.

In the beginning was the word and the word was with god and the word was god

john1-1. john 1-14 and the wod was made flesh and dwelt among us.

hell awaits those on these comments who deny the deity of jesus christ.

isaiah 9-6, isaiah7-14, john8-58,john14-6, col2-9, rev22-13. repent of your

foolish false doctrine.

Cathy, I just respond to your question here only, as you've asked a similar question a couple of times. I can see that this issue is troubling you a lot & it is important. When I read about 'forgiveness' in the Bible, whether of God's forgiveness of us or us forgiving someone else, it speaks of an act of love that demands no further repercussions from us. Just as God Who forgives us of our sins when we come to Him in faith because of Jesus' Sacrifice, God's forgiveness then requires that He no longer remains angry with us & that He no longer holds our many sins as still accountable before Him. In other words, when God forgives, He treats us as clean, innocent of all crimes & fully acceptable to Him into His family.

But does God forget? He being God, cannot suddenly have the thought of us just having wronged Him, be obliterated from His Mind - that wouldn't make sense. So, His forgiveness will make us not guilty before Him but not release His Mind from knowing that we were & still are sinners. Even of Jesus when He walked on Earth, it was said of Him in John 2:24,25, "But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men; and needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man." Many people began to believe in Him because of His miracles, but still He did not "commit Himself to them" (or, He didn't put His trust or confidence in their good words about Him), because He knew the true condition of their hearts.

In yours & our situation, we are told to forgive one another & so we should, so that we demonstrate a true heart's response to someone else's wrong against us based on the love of Christ in us. But we need to be prudent, knowing that our hearts are prone to doing evil, & so in our forgiveness of someone else, we remain cautious (i.e. we fully accept that person into our hearts but careful if there happens to be signs of a recurrence of such acts against us). We must forgive but we remain cautious, remembering what we all are.

Kevin, may the Holy Spirit grace you with (spiritual) understanding and (spiritual) wisdom.

1 Corinthians 15:45 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

Revelation 11:15...... The kingdoms or this world (natural and can be seen with natural eyes) are become the kingdoms of the Lords (spiritual and not seen with natural eyes).......

Revelation is symbolic and can not be discerned with natural eyes, but the Holy Spirit has to grace you with spiritual eyes. Ask and you shall receive.

Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God......

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God DWELLETH in you?

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up (21) but he spake of the temple of his body.

1 Corinthians 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ......

Revelation 15:8 And the temple (you and the Holy Ghost, which is Christ in Spirit) was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues were fulfilled.

Since all mankind was given access to the Holy Ghost at pentecost; therefore, the plagues were pour out before pentecost. Most of mankind is looking through natural eyes; therefore, they think they will be able to see these plagues, but the plagues being carried out are in the spiritual form and can't be seen with natural eyes, but the same results will occur on those they are imposed on.

You have to become well acquainted with the prophecies to even begin to understand Revelation and if the Holy Ghost is not guiding you it is impossible to understand. Ask and you shall receive.

There are many more details and many more scriptures that clarify Revelation 15, but not near enough spare to share in 2000 words.

The Spirit grace you with eyes to see.

Thank you Chris. It's always better to let the scriptures explain the scriptures. I appreciate the reference to I John 2:22-23.

You can get different interpretations of this verse, as also seen in verse 8 of 1 John chapter 5. I've heard it as being associated with Jesus' baptism in 'water' & the culmination of earthly Work by the shedding of His 'Blood' at the Cross. And this may well be correct as I can see its inference.

However, I rather see these verses, & being consistent with John's Gospel chapter 3:5: "Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.", as applying to Jesus' physical Birth. Why I also think in this way, is because much of John's epistle is devoted to highlighting the Gnostic teaching entering the Church & for believers to stand on apostolic teaching, to not be swayed by these others, & be confident in their faith. One aspect of this Gnostic (Docetic) teaching was that "the incarnation (i.e. Jesus coming in the flesh, from God) was incredible (unbelievable), as deity cannot unite itself with anything material (such as a body of flesh)."

So the Gnostics rejected the idea that God could make Himself appear in material human form (as many even reject this now) but said that Jesus was only a special Perfect Man & without the Divine in Him. So what 1 John 5:6 is saying, is that Jesus did come from God in human form (water & blood depicting the birth process & the human aspects) & God's Spirit witnesses to this fact. As there are three that bear witness in Heaven (verse 7), so to on Earth, three bear witness & agree together: the Spirit & Christ's full humanity (water & blood).

In 1 John 2:22,23, John had to relate a similar warning to the Christians: that the one who denies the Divinity of Jesus (i.e. that He came from God & in the flesh, & has both the Divine & Human natures) has the anti-Christ spirit within him & has to be avoided. I hope this helps you - others may contribute their understanding on these verses also, as you can also get other opinions from different Bible commentators.

Whatever he tells you to do, do it! jesus won't tell us to do anything wrong. whatever it is you can be sure you will benefit from it! it will be for our good and his glory! and it will surely help someone else, either then or in the future. and yes, this is what the church should be doing, whatever jesus tells us to do.

In the Bible, we see God as a trinity because it mentions that God, Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit each did these things below:

Each is ETERNAL ( Rom 16.26, Re 22:13, Heb 9:14)

HOLY (Re 4:8, 15:4, Ac 3:14, 1 John 2:20)

OMNIPRESENT ( Jer 23:24, Eph 1:23, Ps 139:7)

OMNIPOTENT( Ge 17:1, Rev 1:8, Ro 15:19, Jer 32:17, Heb 1:3, Lu 1:35)

ONMISCIENT (Ac 15:18, Joh 21:17, 1 Cor 2:10,11)

CREATOR ( Gen 1:1, Col 1:16, Job 33:4, Ps 148:5, John 1:3, Job 26:13)

SANCTIFIER ( Jude 1:1, Heb 2:11, 1 Pe 1:2)

RESURRECTED CHRIST ( 1 Co 6:14, Joh 2:19, 1 Pe 3:8)

Hope that helps.

The short answer to the meaning of God's Grace is, 'God's unmerited favour or kindness shown to us'. That is, God has chosen to show us His Love & Kindness even when we were the 'last people on Earth' to deserve it. Actually, theologically, I like to look at it this way: God is a Merciful God (i.e. His very being of Love, Holiness, Justice, etc. also has Mercy as a very important integral part of the Being of God). So when God demonstrates His Mercy (that part of His Character) & sheds it upon us an undeserving people, we receive it as His Grace in our lives. I realize that often the words 'Mercy & Grace' are used by Christians interchangeably, but to help my understanding & when sharing God's Word, I like to show a differentiation between the two, though both are certainly vitally connected.

And God's Mercy, shown to mankind by His Grace, has always been the enjoyment & security of all those who are called by Him to receive it. To Israel, they were selected as God's chosen, for no other reason than to pour out His Love upon them as He had promised to their fathers, & to make them a special (holy) people (see Deuteronomy 7:6-9). And to us today, to as many as have been called to salvation & eternal life, God has persisted in that Love for all of us, by sending us His Son to be our Substitute to receive His punishment for our sins. There was no other way that God could justify in keeping the human race going on in sin. Just as He destroyed all but few in the Great Flood, so His Mind was that He would do it again for the volume of sins that were before Him. But at the appointed time to hold back that Wrath ( Romans 5:6), He sent Jesus to pay sin's price on our behalf & to avert (to change direction) His Anger against us (1 John 2:2, 4:10). So His Anger was then placed upon Jesus (as our sin-bearer) that those who put their trust in Him can be declared 'not guilty'. Such was the load that Jesus bore for us: our sin & God's Anger.

Such is God's Grace given to us.

To know that your experience of re-birth by God's Spirit is real, is found in the testimony from God's Word & by the witness of His Spirit to your heart.

There are many Scriptures that tell us, what God has done in a truly repentant, confessing sinner, is a declaration by God. And if God has said it (through His Word), then He cannot lie & He is faithful to perform it in your life. Look at: John 3:16; 1 John 1:9; 2 Peter 3:9; Acts 2:38; Luke 15:10; 1 John 5:4; 1 John 2:29 are just a few.

Not only from God's Word that He wants all to repent & turn to Him, but also His Spirit witnesses to our hearts:

Romans 8:16; Galatians 5:17,22; 1 Corinthians 12:7 ff; 1 Corinthians 2:14 are some for you to consider.

So these verses declare God's ministry to us to assure our hearts that we belong to Him, i.e. we have been born again by His Spirit. But for each of us, the Spirit's ministry can be specific & special. One may see God doing mighty things through him that blesses many. Others, can have a quiet confidence in the promises of God & willing & able to share with others what God has done in him. But in all cases, the indwelling Spirit is there to assure you, comfort you, direct you, teach you & give you a hope for the future, which an unbeliever simply cannot have & enjoy.

Sometimes, the initial reception of the Spirit can be quite dramatic, whether in outward manifestations or an inward contrition & resulting joy in salvation. If you've had that experience, be assured of His Presence in you. If you've been baptized in water, here is another great testimony of an inward response to God's Work in you. But if you're feeling empty & no different from when you were unsaved, then you need to examine yourself whether you have come to God in the way that God has prescribed or to check whether you are harbouring any sin that stops His Spirit from fully working in you. I can't know all about you from where I am - you will have to search your heart & life & be honest with God.

Jesus will return to Earth to reign in Jerusalem at the appointed time set by God - & that will be for a thousand years' duration. We understand by examining & 'dividing' of the Scriptures, that His return will be at the end of the Great Tribulation of God upon the Earth of wicked people & the Anti-Christ, & when Satan & the Anti-Christ will be locked away for that period (Revelation chapter 20). Jesus' Return will be the start of the 'New Age' of Righteousness, for those who have come to Him by faith in His Work at the Cross, who will share in His Kingdom right into eternity.

Yet, no one can set dates for all this to happen. I believe that Jesus first comes in the air to receive those who belong to Him & prior to the Anger of God poured onto the World ( 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18), as God's Anger is not for those who have trusted in Him to forgive their sins. His Anger is against those who have rejected God & spurned His Love offer to them through Jesus His Son.

But we're always reminded to be ready for Jesus' Coming & not be found slothful & careless in living holy lives before Him; that when He comes, we might rejoice to see Him & not recoil in shame & sadness for our behaviour (1 John 2:28). "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh." ( Matthew 24:44).

That is a very sad situation for both yourself & your husband. This is what we refer to as "having one foot in God & the other in the world". It seems there is a God-consciousness with him, yet he doesn't want to leave off the attractions that the world gives him. "Man cannot serve two masters": if he loves the world & what it offers him, then his love for God is not real - and that is called hypocrisy. 1 John 2:15, "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him."

He needs spiritual counselling - there is always hope he may give attention to what another unbiased qualified person advises him, rather than from his wife. He probably needs to receive Christ's salvation that will make him new from the inside rather than subscribing to a phoney belief that his knowledge about God is all he needs. This is a very delicate situation which will see you both needing help & guidance, not only in spiritual matters but also in your marriage.

You can always pray for God's Work to be done in his life. Is he in a position to spend some devotional time, i.e. both of you together, with God? Reading from the Bible (which he says he believes in) & from a devotional book & also to spend a little time to pray about your lives, your family, your hopes & dreams, will be useful to resetting your lives & minds towards the things of the Lord. However, if he is resistant to these things, you can only but commit him & your marriage to the Lord in personal prayer & not frustrate or antagonize your husband further. Your faithfulness & love to him in spite of his view of you, your love & trust in the Lord to help your marriage, will also speak to his heart as he witnesses these things. May the Lord help you especially at this time Leasa.

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You wrote of the anger that builds up inside you when you are lied to, maybe continually. To be angry against the sin of others is not wrong, but to harbour it, thus allowing it to slowly eat into us is wrong; Ephesians 4:26, "Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath". There is an anger that isn't sin, even as Jesus showed anger when He went to the Temple & saw people treating the House of God with contempt ( John 2:13-16). So there is a righteous anger, as we call it, but there is an unrighteous anger that has its roots in self-pity & not receiving that which we deserve. We can get upset & angry, but we need to repent, fix up the matter with those concerned & go to bed without storing up that anger. It is hard to do, but the Lord will help when there is true Love.

It's not clear as to why your friend felt that your help to her was your attempt to "buy her friendship". Maybe it was something you did or said that she misconstrued, or even her own thoughts getting away with her & she came to a wrong judgement. In all such cases, if she will allow it, the matter should be aired in all seriousness & humility, so as to restore the bond of friendship you once enjoyed. You may even want to approach her with that desire: to rectify & make amends for whatever has caused this rift.

If the Lord has put it upon your heart to help people wherever you can, then this is a most worthy pursuit as your sole motivation is from the Lord & for the people in need, just as maybe you once were in need in your earlier days. So Christine, just a few thoughts to guide you. May the Lord guide you in this & bless your life. And by the way, you expressed yourself very well though not having had much education - just goes to show that there is an ability we are blessed with beyond the bounds of man deems is necessary.

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Yet, the pressing theme on John's heart, in spite of this woman's faithfulness to Christ & the Word, was the dire warning that was exhibited in his first epistle: that of the strengthening Gnostic influence pervading the Church & Christian thinking (vv 7-11). Gnostiscm, in its many arms of perverted teaching, was propagating the fact that this Jesus from Heaven had not come in the flesh, but merely a man with a mystical nature (v7) & 1 John 2:18-24. And this was based on their belief that "the incarnation is incredible because Deity cannot unite itself with anything material, such as a body". And this belief pervades the Church today & we need to withstand such an atrocity that seeks to remove the fullness of God's Love in the giving of Himself (as none else could), to become Man, & to lay down His Life as our substitutionary Sacrifice. This Truth was now iterated to the Elect lady, to be on guard.

John 2:19-22 Matthew 28 : 1-6 John 19:31

Was Jesus crucified on Wednesday or Friday?

Was Jesus risen in the 1st day of the week or on the Sabbath?

Blessed Assurance:

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:1-2)

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. ( John 3:17)

All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. ( John 6:37-40)

I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. ( John 10:9-10)

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. ( Romans 8:1-2)

God bless you brother Richard in Christ

Thank you heartily for a very mature response which shows some spiritual common sense. It is not something seen very often on these kinds of discussion forums. It is like a breath of fresh-air; and I appreciate your time and effort to type it up.

Love in the Lord of all, Jesus Christ