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i can urge you is to leave that church unless if you would like to make a change

1. God the holy spirit doesn't force anyone. on John 3:16 its written (whoever) so anything that is Pushing and forcing is purely demonic

2.Theres no where in the bible that says we need to have a prayer language in-fact its written Gods message has been sent in all language making it so easy even for a person who has never stepped inside a class room can call on the father by just making a simple prayer in faith( i will look it up for you later

3.we are the salt of this world perhaps you should stand firm and teach all of them about the word of God and explain to them. what the bible says.

4 refer to my channel in YouTube at (Helva danko) have made a short video about false Prophets and pastors of today.

Matthew 25:31-46, John 3:16, James 2, 1John 4:15-21,

Hopefully these are helpful

Psalm 31 along with Psalm 32 discusses David's physical condition (as stated in verse 10 here) of his bones being consumed. Those who were near him kept their distance. (v. 11). There have been commentaries that somehow David got some venereal disease from one of his many wives or concubines that would cause these effects. These passages would indicate that the time frame was probably late in his life as well; at that time he had someone wait on him to stay physically warm (see 1 Kings 1:1-12). We are also reminded of the sufferings of Job in the majority of the book as well; and how this would cause his "friends" to theorize the cause of his calamaties; not realizing that Satan was behind it as well as the Lord testing his faithfulness.

There are Messianic prophecies here such as in verse 5 (which as the trivia passage indicates is seen in the passage on Stephen in Acts as well).

Verse 19 and 20 show the benefits of those who FEAR Him in terms of promises of protection (again either THROUGH trials or from them). Verse 23 shows the general future in eternity as it stands for the righteous in contrast with the wicked. These themes not only repeat themselves in alternative verses in many Psalms but througout the O.T. and even the New Testament in many places. One good example is in John 3:16; we compare that to those who do NOT believe in verses 17 to 18 and their resulting fate. Perhaps this will teach us to not only test ourselves to see if we are in the faith; but to be careful judging others when looking at outward appearances. Today; sadly some would look at Phillipians 2:27 and Epaphroditus and think that he wasn't being "blessed" due to his health issues. There are those today who may have done things such as tattoos to themselves at an earlier time (or are detransitioning) that nonetheless are true believers now. There may be scars from earlier sins as well; but God can use anyone who has submitted to Him if truly Born Again).

Dear Amanda, your ex is right, 2 Corinthians 6:14 says, "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

You say you "can't" agree with his beliefs.

Have you been born again? Have you had an encounter with Jesus Christ that changed your life?

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

Paul and Silas's jailer asked them in ACTS 16:30 ..."Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" Their answer was as simple as this in ACTS 16:31 ..."Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved..." Simple as that.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13.

If you can say without a doubt you are a born-again believer--ask those questions. Attend church, pray, and read your Bible, for Romans 10:17 says, "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."

Remember, God should be more important to you than anything in the world for John 14:6 says,

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." In other words, without Jesus Christ, you will go to hell.

My prayers are for you!

1John 4:18, Revelation 21:6-8, 1John 4:1-3,

Do you believe John 3:16 ? Do you believe GOD can heal? Do you believe GOD can change everything? Do you believe man who spoke those words over you, or GOD ALMIGHTY that created you!? Be Healed be delivered

Trust GOD

James 1:5, Romans 10:17, James 4:7, Luke 11:9-13,

Nick 34, You're saying only when you pray or read the Bible; the scripture says pray without ceasing 1Thessalonians 5:17. Lay the word on your heart & in your soul, bind on your hand, in front of your eyes, to talk about them often, with your children when sitting, walking along, when laying down, the WORD of GOD, Deuteronomy 11:18-20, Psalms 119:11,

Is it a spiritual attack to keep you from reading, praying & learning of a Loving Creator our Loving Father in Heaven? Or is it the HOLY Spirit bringing conviction of sin? If it's not peace that is present, your relationship needs work, possibly. Even Isaiah a Prophet of GOD, had to repent to be close to GOD's presence: Isaiah 1:6, These should be helpful

Jude 1:1-51.

Something to watch for is Jude 1:4. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

This was going on in Jude's day and have certainly excelled in our day. " For there are certain men crept in unawares".

How do they creep in? craftiness? PERHAPS MULTIPLE NAME CHANGES. What is their purpose? Hender the spiritual growth of the believer by their false doctrine?

They seem to agree with you on topics such as the trinity and other topics "even though they give an unorthodox description of it once examined closely".

They come in all shapes form and fashions.

Let's deal with those who Spiritualizes ALL the scripture and in doing so these particular views devalue the blood shed on the cross and the love God displayed in offering his beloved son. ( John 3:16.)

Also, John 15:13. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

This means nothing if there are no consequences to "NOT' receiving Christ, if there is no hell and everyone goes to heaven no matter what you have done in this lifetime! "This is according to their doctrine"

HOW IS THE LOVE OF GOD DISPLAYED ON THE CROSS IF IT WAS UNNECESSARY? Judas, Hitler, Putin, Murderers, Thieves, etc., etc. gets in Heaven anyway!

This particular person also holds the view that we all become as Gods with their incorrect spiritualizing of the text.

WHY IS THIS MESSAGE SO IMPORTANT TO THEM IF THERE IS NO HELL AND THE CROSS DOSENT MATTER?

WHY EVEN BOTHER?

WHERE IS THE VALUE IN FAITH, LOVE, ECT. WORKS, BELIEVING, OBEYING, IN THIS DOCTRINE?

WHATS THE POINT IN SHARING SCRIPTURE?

It's also interesting to see some support a view without understanding it or holding the same viewpoints. The only thing they have in common is multiple name changes.

GB

John 3:16,

Deborah:

Since you are saved and a born again Christian, what are you saved from?

Is Christ not the passover lamb of God?

Does not death pass over those covered by the blood?

John 5:24 ....he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath EVERLASTING LIFE, and shall not come into condemnation, but is (present tense) passed from death into Life.

John 8:51 ......if a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

Lukewarm Christians don't keep his sayings, his words.

Have you come to truth of what being born again is?

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (the life in you) that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and you shall keep my JUDGEMENTS, and do them.

John 16:8 And when he is come (Christ in you, the new creation) he will will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of JUDGEMENT.

John 16:11 Of JUDGEMENT because the prince of this world (lies and deception in you) is JUDGED.

Matthew 12:28 But if I (Christ in you) by the Spirit of God, cast out devils (lies and deception) the the kingdom of God has come unto you.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Christ in you) that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO (his statutes and his judgements) his good pleasure.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is BORN OR GOD (truth and life) doth not commit sin (It's Christ in you working both TO WILL and TO DO his statutes and his Judgements)

Most Christians want walk in this truth and that makes them lukewarm.

God bless you.

One could say that the miracle of wine early in John was something that He did early on that was perhaps purely of His own Deity as it was "before the time". The walking on water also and other things He did personally with the Disciples as well as explaining the Parables was something that was not to be broadly known. The main point here is that He did NOT want people to know who He was before it was in God's timing; as it would cause not only attempts prematurely to kill Him; but also large crowds attempting to make Him king. That happened in the last week to fulfill all things in their timing. We need to understand that He was our example and had the Spirit "without limit." ( John 3:34 "without measure"). His ministry had to be entirely as a servant as no doubt He deserved every day to be different than it was and indeed He is now "highly exalted". The scars on His hands and feet also serve well to demonstrate what He did for us in our place; as well as being triumphant over "sheol" ( 1 Peter 3:18-20).

Whatever other things that John mentioned that would take up more than all the books in the world ( John 21:25). Thus; whatever does exist outside the Canon which is largely tales of things before His public ministry are not to be taken as scripture or even seriously. His ministry started publicly after John the Baptist baptized Him to fulfill all things and the Spirit came down on Him as a dove ( Luke 3:22). This makes evident that it was the start of public ministry as even John the Baptist who baptized much of Israel didn't know who the Messiah was until that happened (apparently Elizabeth's children didn't interact with Mary's after the children were born or shortly thereafter from what the scripture seems to indicate).

Hey Richard.

I read your posts, but I do not reply as much anymore but if I may. The statement Jesus was fully God and fully man, I have heard others say as well. From the time Jesus was born until He was resurrected and ascended back to heaven can this be truly said?

We read in John 17:1-5, shortly before Jesus was arrested, He prayed to the Father to be restored. Jesus left it all behind for us, the only begotten Son of God. The Bible does not clarify what that glory is, but whatever it was, it was lacking in Him while He was human. Jesus came as a human being and had to deal with life as we do, Heb. 4:15, and was obedient to the Father, Phil. 2:6-9.

Jesus was sent to fulfill the law and the prophets only man could do that. Jesus is the Messiah/Christ that God promised and sent, the Anointed One, the only begotten Son of God, and when He was baptized, He was anointed with the Holy Spirit without measure to do the will of the Father that sent Him, Matt. 10:40 Luke 4:18 John 3:34-35 John 5:30-31 John 17:21.

Jesus is now back in heaven with the glory He had at the right hand of the Father and will reign until all enemies are put under His feet, 1 Cor 15:25 and we know the last one is death, Rev 20:14.

There is no other name above His, Phil. 2:9 and no other name where there is salvation, Acts 4:12.

God bless,

RLW

Birds are animals so is a dog they can never think like a human nor comprehend anything, A good example is when you leave your in the house and go to work and later on you find your dog has chewed all you new cushions and made a big mess.

This Dog you might speak to it and he will wiggle his tail but i tell you tomorrow or few months down the line it will do it again

The point is God has made us and breath into our nostrils and given man the breath of life then man became living being .

Jesus died on the cross for man to be reconciled with God This is clearly shown on

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

another point to understand is that we are more valuable to God than animals and as God takes care of the animals and birds of the skys he values man more than them.

Matthew 6:26-34

26 Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?

By the grace of God Please don't worry about the animals worry about your souls before God, remember unless you repent you will likewise perish

Luke 13:3

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

I think what is missing in all of this theological discussion is the personal role the Spirit of God plays with an individual believer.

1 Corinthians 3:16 states that we are the Temple of God now. Thus; as Colossians 2:9 states the "fullness of the Godhead bodily" showed how Christ was fully God and fully man; but also he had the "Spirit without measure". ( John 3:34). We as believers in the N.T. times since Christ's atonement go immediately to heaven after death (see Hebrews 9:27; 2 Cor. 5:8). We are "sealed with the Spirit" ( Eph. 1:13-14) from the moment we are saved (that is TRULY saved); hence the Spirit dwells in us (see John 14:23).

We can look at the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost) as the pneuma in some extent; or what is breathed into us from above much as the soul of man had life given to it when we are born the first time. God therefore rules over all and determines times and seasons; Christ is the 2nd member of the "Godhead" hence in accordance with God's plan became the sin offering for our redemption and thus was "given" all authority over heaven and earth ( Matthew 28:18-20).

When He humbled Himself a man; he trusted totally in the Spirit to do His miracles as an example for us to do the same. Clearly; there were certain things which are at least primarily limited to the Apostolic era. Nonetheless; we are told to "bear fruits worthy (meet) of repentance ( Matt. 3:8 and elsewhere). There are characteristics of a Spirit filled life; and also various gifts or manifestations given by God to every believer (see 1 Cor. 12). PRIMARILY; the Spirit of Christ brings forth to convict the world of "sin; righteousness and judgment to come." ( John 16:8-11). We know we are one of His children if we have a new heart ( Ezekiel 36:26); and of course if we trust God; obey Him and obey Him to the best of our ability. We desire God and the Spirit will convict us (he chastises all He loves). ( Heb. 12:6 etc).

I pray that you have a personal experience with the Lord

Praise the Lord!

John 3:16

For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son so that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Susie, I'm praying for you and your husband.

Lord be merciful and guide this couple to Your will for their lives. I lift them up to You Father. Whatever is needed to bring them closer to living for You.

Do a mighty work in them and use their lives for Your glory. Bless them and help them in their walk with you. Thank You Lord, in Jesus name I pray, amen.

John 3:16

John 8:36

Romans 2:4

Romans 6:23

Luke 7:50

May God Bless You today Susie

:-)

Hi Giannis.

That is the view I hold as well.

I believe the water here is the word of God.

John 15:3. Now ye are clean through the WORD which I have spoken unto you.

Ephesians 5:26. That he might sanctify and cleanse it WITH THE WASHING OF WATER BY THE WORD,

1 Peter 1:23. Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, BY THE WORD OF GOD, which liveth and abideth for ever.

God bless.

Hello Neville

It means to be born again. About the "water"

there are different beliefs among christians about the meaning. The ones I am aware of are:

1. It means the water of baptism. So a person is born again when they get baptized in water.

2. It means the Word of God which is often represented by water in the scriptures ( my belief as well). So when one hears the Word of God, which is an "active" word, and accepts it in their heart and repents and want to change then they get born again by the Spirit of God.

What is it to be born of water?

Hello BB. While I will certainly pray for your father, I will also pray for you to become confident in your belief in God. Faith comes by hearing and reading the WORD. For starters, I encourage you to watch Billy Graham's videos on youtube. I challenge you to read the Bible--beginning with the Gospel of John which displays the deity of Jesus Christ. Your total faith and salvation will not only plant seeds of faith and salvation in your father but save your immortal soul from hell. I am inserting instructions on how you can be saved.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

Paul and Silas's jailer asked them in ACTS 16:30 ..."Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" Their answer was as simple as this in ACTS 16:31 ..."Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved..." Simple as that.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13.

I strongly urge you to take Jesus Christ as your Savior.

God bless and keep you!

Hello Spencer

I haven't got much time to write a detailed comment, so:

Luke 17:20-21

"And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."

The Kingdom of God or of Heaven (only Matthew uses the term Kingdom of Heaven, which actually doesn't alter anything) begins within us since it is God who is our King and His rules that we obey. But after the second coming of Jesus Chist there will be a literal Kingdom on (the new) earth that God is going to create (also in the millenium).

How does one enters that Kingdom (the spiritual and the literal)?

John 3:5

"Jesus answered (to Nicodemus), Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

The greek for Gospel is Evagelion, it means Good News, the good news of salvation of mankind through the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ. This is unique, it hasn't changed and will never change. The same good news were preached by Jesus to Hebrews, the same by the disciples to the gentiles, till nowadays. I think that is a cornerstone doctrine for all christian churches (denominations), or for the majority of them. .

GBU

God does not hate humans. It is not God's will that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. I understand the verse in question. The term hate in Romans 9:13 does not hold the same definition as we take it. GOD HATES SIN. If we read the story of jacob, and esau. Esau was well loved by his father but willing to give away his birthright for a bowl of soup. His desire to eat meant more than the blessing of his birth father and the blessings from the heavenly father. Our Heavenly Father LOVES us to no end. JOHN 3:16, tells of this great love. He also is a righteous judge, and rewards us for our good deeds and punishes us for our bad. If God doesn't discipline us then we are bastards and not sons. We cannot know the depth of God's love, because we love conditionally. He loves Unconditionally.

I hope this helps

Here are some scriptures in that regard:

Genesis 5:24, Hebrews 11:5, 1Samuel 15:35, Job 10:21,22, Job 34:22, Job 38:17, Revelation 2:7, Luke 23:33-43, Luke 16:19-31, Psalms 6:5, Psalms 48:14, Psalms 49:14, Ecclesiastes 8:8, Isaiah 38:18, Romans 7, 2Corinthians 7:10,

Psalms 56:13, Psalms 89:48, Proverbs 10:2, Proverbs 14:27, Ecclesiastes 9:4,

Psalms 116:15, Proverbs 14:32, Isaiah 9:2, Isaiah 25:8, Hosea 13:14, Luke 18:33, John 8:51, John 5:24, Acts 2:24-27, Romans 5:10-21, Romans 6:2-23, Romans 8, 2Timothy 1:10, 1John 3:14,

Jeremiah 21:8, Ezekiel 18:31,32, 1Corinthians 15:20-58, Revelation 1:18,

Hebrews 2:9-18, Revelation 20, Revelation 21,

I believe these may be what you're looking for: 1John 3:22,23 in context 1John 3, Philippians 4:19, John 15, John 16:23-27, Matthew 6, Matthew 7:7-12, Matthew 18:19, Matthew 21:21-22, Luke 11:2-13,

Hopefully these are encouraging

Sister Janice:

Do you understand what it means to produce after their own kind?

God said let us make man in our image.

God is Spirit, if we are (Re)created in his image, we also become Spirit (God, in a glorified body, just like Christ)

Psalms 82:6 For I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.

Psalms 104:30 Thou sendeth forth thy Spirit, they are created, thou renewest the face of the earth.

John 3:6 ... that which is born of Spirit (God) is Spirit (God).

John 17:21 That they all may be one, as thou Father, art in me, and I IN THEM ....

Colossians 1:2 ...this mystery ....Christ IN YOU .....

Romans 8:29 ....predestinate to be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son ....

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

You must be born again: understand what awaits you when you leave this body of flesh.

1 Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light ....

1 Corinthians 15:53 ...this mortal shall PUT ON immortality (Christ only hath immortality, we put on Christ).

1 Corinthians 15:28 ....that God may be ALL in ALL.

Ephesians 4:4 ....One Spirit (eternal life)......One Body (creation, that inherited eternal life)

God bless you.

Dear Richard,

Thanks for the good words on our heavenly reward.

I was just thinking yesterday about this as my husband and I were driving on such a sunny fall day. Considering the beauty of the natural environment, I thought that since God created such beauty and enjoyment on this earth in this life, how much greater will be the beauty and enjoyment of our heavenly life! I don't think we will ever grow tired or bored of what we will possess in our heavenly life. Just the eternal infinite perfection of God in all of His ways will be captivating to us for all eternity.

I love what John the Baptist said of Jesus, "He must increase and I must decrease." ( John 3:30). Our sanctification will bring this same attitude in us. Although God can never increase in any aspect of His Being, but our view and esteem for him will increasing grow in glory and our esteem for ourselves will lessen as we understand more fully how God deserves all the honor, glory, and praise, not us. It helps us understand why in John's vision in Revelation that the angels and elders would fall before the throne of God crying "Holy, Holy, Holy" continually. We will have that same esteem for Him. All to Jesus, holding nothing back for ourselves, knowing we have everything in Him anyway and will never lack for any good thing. How wonderful that will be.

Lori:

Do you understand what it means to produce after their own kind?

God said let us make man in our image.

God is Spirit, if we are (Re)created in his image, we also become Spirit (God, in a glorified body, just like Christ)

Psalms 82:6 For I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.

John 3:6 ... that which is born of Spirit (God) is Spirit (God).

John 17:21 That they all may be one, as thou Father, art in me, and I IN THEM ....

Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ....Christ IN YOU .....

Romans 8:29 ....predestinate to be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son ....

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

You must be born again: do you understand what awaits us when we leave this body of flesh.

1 Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light ....

1 Corinthians 15:53 ...this mortal shall PUT ON immortality (Christ only hath immortality, we put on Christ).

God bless you.

And said O Lord God of lsrael why is this came to pass in lsrael that there should be to day one tribe lacking in Israel

It's the same here in 1 Peter 1:3 as is in John 3:1-7 begat us again, born again ,,, it's the physical birth into these flesh bodies.

When we receive Christ we then become of A (New Nature)

Hi Robert. The word in Greek refers to 'begetting again or begetting into a new life'. I suppose the thought is as expressed by our Lord in John 3:1-7 in His encounter with Nicodemus & also again referred to by Peter in 1 Peter 1:23, where "born again" is used to denote that we were born once (physically) & the second time (spiritually). Thus, those who have come to Christ in faith have had two births, hence being "begotten again" (a second time).

And I appeared unto Abraham unto Isaac and unto Jacob by the name of God Almighty but by my name JAHOAH was i not known to them

I proclaim death peace and joy it will be We learn to capture the thought so that they don't land to sin Amen