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Kenneth,

Jesus did not say it in those exact words, but it is true that a person must repent and ask for forgiveness in order to be saved. Romans 10:13 says, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." That's a promise! If a person with a repentant heart genuinely calls out to Him and cries out to Him for mercy and to save them, He will do it. Jesus said in John 3:3 that "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." The word "again" in the Greek text is literally the word above. It is not PALIN, which is the word for again. It is the word ANOTHEN, which means "from above." What Jesus is saying is that if a person is not born from above (A Spiritual birth), he is not able to see the Kingdom of God.

Paul says in 2 Corinthians 5:17 that you become a new creation when God's Spirit comes into your spirit. You become a new person. So a person must be born of God's Spirit in order to enter into heaven. In fact, Romans 8:9 tells us that if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His. The connection here is that a person must belong to Christ in order to enter into heaven, and the evidence that a person belongs to Christ is that they have His Spirit living in them. A person belongs to Christ if they have His Spirit literally dwelling in them (Permanently). I enter into heaven not because of who I am, or what I've done. I enter in because one day when I stand before God, He will see His Son in me.

God Bless!!!

Hello Fabian TAIMABRI,

Genesis 1:27, notice: Genesis 1:26,28,29,

Genesis 2:7, interestingly here "formed, breathed life" is this symbolic of the Church the body of Christ to come? John 12:25, Genesis 3:22, John 5:26, John 5:24, John 3:36, John 6:48,54, Titus 1:2, Romans 8:6, John 5:39,

Is chapter 2, symbolic of the stewardship of GOD's Church? Genesis 2:15, Matthew 20:8, Luke 12:42, Mark 12,

Back to Genesis 1, "man appears to be collective for both" yes in name like human, humanity, humankind "man"

see even more interesting = Genesis 5:2,

GOD says distinctly female & male Genesis 1:27,

It appears it could be those created to multiply, fill the earth, subdue were away from the presence of GOD, again seeming to point to the symbolism in the garden "in the presence of GOD " His church. Genesis 3:8, Genesis 3:23-24, Genesis 4:14-16,

Genesis 2:17, spiritual death? Matthew 8:22, Luke 9:60, Matthew 22:32, Matthew 23:27,

In the forming of Eve, it appears also specific, spiritual & special with symbolism, Genesis 2:21-25, Genesis 6:1-3, Mark 10:4-9, 1Corinthians 6:15, Revelation 21:2,9, Isaiah 62:5, John 3:29-36, Matthew 22, Luke 12:36, Ephesians 5:30-32,

1Corinthians 13:9-12, James 1:5, Ephesians 3:4,

Hopefully these are all helpful

Dear GiGi, please read the reply I made to Giannis and ponder what I am saying. We will not reach "sinless perfection" by the methods of man. We have to be careful of people that say they can lead us to sinlessness and perfection by their methods. Even though the Bible don't address "sinless perfection" together it does address both. It seems a contradiction to me your quote the longer and deeper we follow our Saviour, Jesus Christ, the more acute is our awareness of our own sinfulness and the many ways we sin each day. We should belief the goal of the Bible and Jesus is to take away sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness and be like him. Eph. 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: I believe this righteousness is imputed not imaginary. 1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin." Your statement and belief seems to me like one is living under the old law and maybe even worse. They had a remembrance of sins yearly and you have a remembrance of sins daily. Hebrews 10: 1-4 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. My encouragement is to read carefully, examine your motives and ask yourself if your truly desire to leave the things you feel guilty about each day. Read the context of Jesus parable about the unjust judge and widow. He poses the question if he will find faith when he returns. Lets believe his word.

Good day, Amos 5:26 identifies the use of a star with a tabernacle. (not accusing, only identifying what is in the Word) It is most peculiar that the star would have 6 points, 6 sides, and 6 triangles. Most peculiar indeed. When you read of the tribes of Israel in Genesis, did you catch what changed in the book of revelation concerning them? Something is different here and it has to do with a serpent. This may seem brash and way off base but consider this:

America loves tradition and a symbol of our strength and a representation of America is the statue of liberty and the Washington monument. Did you know the Washington monument is 55.5 feet wide and 555 feet tall? This is 666 inches wide and 6660 inches tall and also is the same proportionally to the golden statue of Nebuchadnezzar from the book of Daniel? Hidden right in front of us, the devil's vessels are very skilled at deception and causing others to error.

Certainly not all Jewish peoples are of this sort, only a portion. Again this is laid out in Revelation, those who practice kabbalah are those who worship a snake in a tree. This is what Jesus spoke of replacing in John 3:14. The wicked shall do wickedly but the wise shall understand.

Respectfully

Love / Charity

1 Corinthians 13:13

1 John 4:16-12

1 John 4:8

John 3:16

Dear Doug, as I said before I will come back to our conversation about man's nature another time. But lets talk about a sinless life. My belief is that believers may sin no matter how hard we try, we still sin. It's not always a matter of decision but it is a matter of capability.

I will not mention any scripture but I would like to ask you that.

Have you heard of anybody that became perfect and never sinned in his life after born again for the past 2 th. years since Jesus was raised from dead?. Have your heard of anybody claiming that has met or heard of such a person?

Me personally no I haven't, and nobody I know has ever claimed to have heard of something like this.

There is a saying " A theory is proved right in practice". So since there has never been anybody that managed to be sinless in life two things may be possible

Either 1. The theory is wrong, so God's Word is not true (assuming that it is interpreted the way you say)

or 2. The interpretation is wrong.

I think only the latter is possible.

That we are "Dead for sin" means we are dead for a sinful life, we follow Jesus now, not the sinful world. And if we fail in our STRUGGLE against sin, we have Jesus' Blood.

Can God make us perfect and sinless at once? He can certainly do that. But He doesn't, and history has prooved that. Why not? God knows.

Can He make us not been tempted by sin? Yes He can. But He doesn't do that. But actually If God's Spirit is in us in Its fullness we can never sin. But that happened only to Jesus because He is the Son of God and not to other man. John 3:34 "For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him." The rest of us have a portion of the HS.

Finally if one likes to live in his failures and uses Jesus Blood as a cover for that, then he has to face God's Judgment in this life.

Final question. If we can be literally sinless why our way in described as narrow by Jesus? It would have been a wide and easy way, I think

GBU

I wouldn't call it a spirit world but I understand your question. The majority of modern churches teach there's no Heaven after death for the elect. This is a lie from Satan. Now, under the Old Covenant those who died in God had been for a time in Hades (the paradise side of Sheol)...such as we understand in part from Solomon

Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

These verse describe not only our being born again in Salvation but equally that God gives those washed in His Blood an eternity with him (Heaven...like or lump it)

John 5:24 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

There are two sides of the grave after death: From the unsaved there's Hell and the save eternal life with God

Christ warns...

Matthew 10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

So, I wouldn't necessarily say Spirit world as the Holy Spirit lives in every born again believer. So, we know in part of that already. The body can be injured, hurt and pass away. But the soul cannot die and has only one of two destinies after death. That's why Salvation is so very important:

John 3:16-18

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

Giannis, I really do appreciate you being open to this topic. The verses you have given a very popular for those who feel we can't be sin free. As you read the Bible be open to the adjectives in the scriptures and text. Ask yourself when you think you have sinned. Is it really a sin. Do I honestly want to leave it or do I like the thought that I can remain in my failures and Christ views me as perfect anyway. IF Christ gives grace to overcome some sins, why can't he give power to overcome all sins. Lets just consider some of the wording of the scripture. 1) Dead to sin or Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon Dye also yourselves to be "dead indeed" unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 2)Jesus told the woman at the well "go and sin no more".... not try to do better. 3) 1John 5:8 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God "keepeth himself", and that wicked one "toucheth him not". So we have phrases "doth not commit sin", "cannot sin", "toucheth him not", "dead indeed unto sin", James 1:15 "and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death". The following verse says "Do not err, my beloved brethren". An explanation of what I understand the scriptures in 1 John to mean "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." Answer: we know we all had Adam's nature of sin prior to conversion to say we didn't is to deceive ourselves. "If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us". Answer: All have sinned and come short of the glory of God prior to conversion. The following verse is what I believe is the complete mission of Jesus coming to the earth. 1 John 3:5 "And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin". And by this mission we will "have life and have it more abundantly". Have a blessed day!

Hellow brother Doug

Let's read 1 John 1:8-10

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us"

The above says that we commit sins but we are given Jesus' Blood for forgiveness. So what does it mean "dead to sin" and "body of sin destroyed". Howcome the body is dead/ destroyed for sin and still sin? Since scripture cannot conrtadict scripture, I think it means that we (our bodies) are not living a sinful life (staying in sin), that is why it says " live any longer therein". There is a huge difference between one living in sin and one living a pure life but occasionally commit sins, so is given Jesus'Blood to be forgiven and his sin been erased. Hence his life remains pure

Lets see another Scriptute that is often misinterpreted because of a problematic translation.

1 John 3:9 "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God"

If one takes it as it is written in English, he will conclude that believers cannot sin anymore after born again. But here John seems to say the opposite from what he said previously in 1:8-10. Why is this? Because the translation is not right. The greek for what is translated as "commit sin" actually says "committing sin", a continuous present tense ie a continuous situation. In simple words it says that believers cannot live a sinful life since the Word of God (seed) is in them.

Now let's go to our original argument. Has our nature changed when we were born again? My opinion is no. Simply through new birth and baptism in the HS we are dressed with God's grace to help us with our fight against sin.

But to be honest with you I still have some questions in my mind about this.. so we may talk about it later on

GBU

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. [Jesus]

{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first.

Sons of GOD defined = John 1:12, Romans 8:14,

Example = Philippians 2:15,

1John 3:1,2

A hotly contested verse; but the alternate explanation needs to be given of the Transfiguration when 3 disciples saw Christ and 2 saints in a glorified state. This could have been literally a time travel into the future; it certainly revealed Christ in a different manner. Since these scriptures immediately come after this account that is the most likely explanation.

Another thing not mentioned is those O.T. saints that came out of their graves at the Resurrection. They would have seen Christ after Resurrected but not necessarily as He would return in His glory as the first example also seems to be lacking.

The events of AD 70 are argued by FULL Preterists as indicating the fulfillment of that prophecy in His generation. There are too many other clear scriptures that invalidate this; not the least of which are in John's account in Revelation. In AD 70 there were said to be many supernatural manifestations including that of visions of God and His glory. Still He didn't return physically back to earth at that time.

We could also examine us as believers that have gone from death to life spiritually. (1 John 3:14). Our spirit man will be present with the Lord after we die so we in a sense will still be alive (as Moses and Elijah were taking with Christ-Elijah of course was translated and never died physically). Of course we will not die once He comes back either; a lot depends on what "tasting death" means. Since the verse says "some of you" it clearly does not indicate the final fulfillment when every eye shall see Him.

If only the disciples heard it being said then the Transfiguration is a likely explanation; the cloud imagery could in some way relate to His second coming.

Ultimately this is a tough verse; but as with anything else we cannot let it stand alone. We cannot accept that Christ has physically returned to earth yet; or those who think He has returned in some mystical way. ( Matthew 24:26-etc). There is no mistaking that event.

I've understood it to be similar to Simon called Peter: Matthew 4:18, Matthew 10:2, different than Acts 8:9, & Luke, Acts 10:18, Acts 13:1, Acts 13:9, Acts 14:2, notice in Acts, the same book, there are multiple names referenced even a wind, Acts 27:14, Acts 27:8, Hebrews 11:18,

Matthew 1:6 Jesus called Christ, John 4:25, Luke 6:15, John 1:42, John 11:16, not Colossians 4:11,

Romans 2:17, Romans 7:3, same supposed writer as Acts , also Romans 9:26

Matthew 26:14, Luke 23:33, John 19:13, John 19:17, Acts 6:9, Revelation 11:8,

Revelation 12:9,

Luke 2:4, Luke 8:2, John 21:2, different than Acts 9:11,

Acts 1:23, Acts 9:36,

Colossians 3:15, 1John 3:1,

Hopefully these are all helpful in your study

Lynne,

Another comment : Notice, Jesus was speaking to people who called themselves son's of Abraham, putting themselves as heirs to salvation. Genesis 22:18, Luke 16:14, in Luke 16:24-25, then Luke 16:27-31, there's many things Jesus is saying here. He's pointing out Salvation isn't sealed in birthright.

Nor those who think because they should be allowed in but live cruelly towards others: Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7,

He's also pointing to his own resurrection. Luke 16:31, & prophecying their denial of him even after that prophecy is fulfilled.

Notice also: John 3:12, Isaiah 55:9,

Hopefully these are also helpful

Dear Donna,

I am praying for you now.

You may go to God in prayer just as you are. Joel 2:32. John 3:16. Acts 2:38. God bless you.

Douglas Borchard,

This prophecy gives the precise time of the first coming of the Messiah. You will receive different understandings of this, it is a study that will take much time. this is just a little information you may use to help your study.

Many put the last week of this prophecy at the end times. It is used for the 7 years of tribulation, a peace treaty with the antichrist (he in verse 27) for 3 1/2 years then 3 years of great tribulation with the taking of the church somewhere between (pre, mid, post).

"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, (70 weeks, 70 x 7 = 490 solar years or 483 prophetic years) on the house of Israel (Daniel's people) and the holy city (Jerusalem). It started from "the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem", make a note, that the rebuilding of the temple is not in this prophecy.

Here are a few verses that may help your study and if this prophecy has been fulfilled or not.

1. To finish the transgression Isaiah 53:5, 8 Isaiah 53:11 Hebrews 9:15-18

2. To make an end of sins Matthew 1:21 Hebrews 10:8-11 John 1:29 1 Corinthians 15:3

1 John 3:5 Psalm 32 Romans 8:3

3. To make reconciliation for iniquity Colossians 1:20-22 Isaiah 53:6 Isaiah 53:11 Ephesians 2:16 ( Titus 2:14 2 Corinthians 5:18-19

4. To bring in everlasting righteousness Romans 5:17-21 Romans 3:21-26 1Peter 2:24

2 Corinthians 5:21 Isaiah 61:10-11

5. To seal up vision and prophecy Daniel 9:23 John 6:27 Mark 1:14-15 Acts 3:18

John 5:36-40 Matthew 11:11-15

6. To anoint the most holy Hebrews 8:1-12 Hebrews 9:6-14

The six things that were determined on Daniel's people and the holy city in this 70-week prophecy; did the Messiah/Jesus fulfill?

God bless,

RLW

Hanna Fowler,

Sometimes we have to find out who we are not, & who we don't want to be, before we find out who we are. I've told several people at times before testings & temptation we can say "I'd never" but as Peter under the real pressure gave in, we really don't know how we handle trial & temptation until testing. (We're to pray that God deliver us & lead us not into temptation ' Matthew 6,) Luke 22:31-34, Luke 22:40-62, Matthew 26:75, John 21:17, later Peter became a bold preacher read all the book of Acts to see Peter's boldness afterward. Here's a few: Acts 2:38-47, Acts 2:14, this is in the Bible for those of us who need this encouragement. Also this scripture : Luke 7:47, in context Luke 7:37-50,

Here are a few more: Mark 1:15, Acts 2:38, John 3:15-16, Acts 3:19, Romans 3:22-25,

Romans 5:8, "But God commendeth his love towards us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

Ephesians 5,

Ephesians 5:8 "For ye were sometimes darkness, but now ye are light in the Lord: walk as children of the light."

Matthew 7, Matthew 25:31-46, 2Corinthians 1:4,

Hopefully these are all helpful

Sons of GOD : Genesis 6:2, Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7, Revelation 12:10, John 1:12 "But as many as receive him, to them gave he power to become the sons of GOD, even to them that believe on his name:"

Romans 8:14 "For as many as are led by the Spirit of GOD, they are the sons of GOD."

Philippians 2:15 "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of GOD, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world."

1John 3:1 "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of GOD: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not."

Matthew 5:16, Luke 8:19, Matthew 23:9, John 20:17, John 4:23, John 16:28, Matthew 6:7-34 did you notice how many times GOD is referenced as "our, your Father " in that portion of chapter 6? Matthew 7:11,

Mark 3:33-35,

1John 3, Romans 8:29,

Contrast = John 8:41-47, 1John 2:23, Matthew 3:9

Hopefully these are all helpful in your study

Dear Alex, lets go back to our conversation.

When the Scriptute says that God will pour His Spirit to all people, does it is literally mean to ALL people no matter what they want or believe? If this is the case then the muslims, the buddhists and all other people have got the Holly Spirit that "leads them to the truth?" The truth of their religion? This can't be right, can it?

Lets see what Jesus said about this.

John 14:16-17

" And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."

Jesus said that the world can not receive the HS because they don't know It.

Read also Galatians 4:6

" And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father."

The above says that the HS is given by God only to His children. Can we agree on that?

Now if we don't really need anybody else than the HS to teach us the Word of God, how come there are so many different beliefs amongst Christians? Don't we all have the HS that leads us to the truth? Which one (truth)? If that is the case why God has placed teachers in the church? If all churches are falling away during these last days how come that that Isaiah said about the knowledge of God covering the whole world comes true? Because the HS will teach people? Do you see many people outside churches that know or want to know anything about God? Since this practically doesn't happen, shouldn't we think that the scripture means something else? Remember that Paul said to Timothy that people of the last days will be the worst of all ages? 2 Timothy 3:1-5

Question. Can one be saved if one doesn't believe in Jesus? There are so many scriptures that say the opposite. I give you some. John 3:18-19, John 5:24, John 5:28-29, Acts 2::38 etc

There is more to say but not now...

GBU

Hello Abbey. Unfortunately, in English we have a limited use of the word 'love', unless we qualify it with other words. But in Greek, the language of the New Testament, John 3:16 tells us that "God so loved the world" (Gk. egapesen; from the root, 'agapao'). And this type of love (agapao) is the highest form of love one can have & demonstrate to someone else.

It is more than feeling very sorry for someone, more than providing food & various forms of help, more than a loving embrace or comforting words even when the other person despises you. It is a sacrificing love: a willingness to unconditionally give of oneself. One could see it as a parent who would sacrifice everything for their children; one entering a building fully engulfed in flames to rescue a helpless injured person; the many servants of the Lord (recorded in history) who willingly submitted to the burning stake or cannibals, so that the Gospel would reach those who've never heard of Jesus. Just a few examples here of this type of love that also clearly shows how God loved this world of sinners & those really unworthy of any help, to give of Himself (in Jesus, of and from God, made flesh) to be killed for our sakes. God's agapao sent His Son to the Cross that "whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life".

It is my understanding that charity is something higher than love so I was just wondering why John 3:16 mentions love instead of cheriteth the world?

Do Not take away or add to the word of god. If the bible says ( Baptize ) it means Baptize. BIBLE VERSES ABOUT WATER BAPTISM Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be ( baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,) and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 1 Peter 3:21 Mark 16:16 Acts 22:16 and this scripture explains this very clearly! John 3:5 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee,( Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. ) Romans 6:4 - Therefore we are ( buried with him by baptism into death:) that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Galatians 3:27 Acts 10:48 Matthew 28:19 Acts 10:48 Matthew 3:16 Acts 8:36-39 ( And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain ( water:) and the eunuch said, See, here is ( water;) what doth hinder me to be baptized? Gods word says Baptize it means baptize ( there is no scripture that NULLIFYS WATER BAPTISM ) Further more ( Revelation 22:19

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. God has a plan for salvation and we have no right to change it by our interpretation of the word 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: These are not my word, they are scripture By Which we as CHRISTIANS must live by. I submit this in the love of Jesus and the hope of seeing his will, that NO MAN SHOULD PARRISH !

Hi Samantha.

Homosexuality is a sin as well as heterosexual without marriage is fornication, stealing, killing, etc. When we accept Christ in our life, "On his terms" ( Romans-10:9-10.) he saves us. This comes after knowing we are sinners and condemned without him.

John 3:16-18. Notice the emphasis on believe in these verses?

God gives us his spirit to convict us, guide us, teach us and gives the power and strength to change us. Change may not come immediately but the guilt will. You coming on the site may have expressed that. Salvation is the works of Christ alone but when we're saved we are to bare fruit of righteousness and repent. Sanctification is a work of the Holyspirit. Being made new we shouldn't continue in sin. Not perfection but a continuance of progression. Romans 6:1-11.

Keep in prayer, God will judge you by your heart. If your heart is pure change will follow.

God bless.

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Leviticus 18:22

Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. John 3:7

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 21:8

I am warning you. Repent! You are kindling God's anger.

Agreed. However, I've witnessed those verses above which apply to our walk, sanctification and our testimony as Christians (the fruit). To the unsaved they view those verses as offensive, thoughtful advice or otherwise because they're not born again. We start with Salvation which is simple. It's not warm tissues but the reality of Salvation. If you state John 3:16...that's great. If you go the extra step of adding verses 17 &18 ...that's offensive to some...but they need to know it.

To us (the born again) these verses may sound soft. To an athiest, religious, or gnostic...the verses I posted are offensive. Always have been. But Grace isn't soft and that's why few get there. I share this as encouragement to the saved and unsaved that we are sharing these verses with everyone we know and more. I never said it's just those above verses -- we need to witness the way we're called BUT with sound doctrine. If it ain't Bible... it's not of God.

For encouragement today and always I'd like to share some wonderful things about Salvation.

Can we get saved by a person or named church denomination?

Acts 4:12 - "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

John 14:6 - "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Salvation can not come from another other (pastors, priests, religion, etc) but only from Christ Jesus.

But I have good news for you today!

John 3:15-18

"That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

Wow, isn't that beautiful? But you may ask yourself, "but I've done this or that sin and I've been too wicked." That's what the Pharisees believed. They saw the broken sinners and pitied them...turned them away. What did Jesus say to them?

Luke 5:32

"I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

Don't we have to do works to obtain mercy and Salvation from God? No, the only works are after Salvation from the fruit of the Spirit.

Ephesians 2:8&9

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

Let us never complicate the simplicity of the Bible and share this with everyone today. The most important gift you can give a strange, relative, friend or even an enemy are these verses (and there are many more) to Salvation. Please use your Holy King James Bible and God Bless!

Part 7.

Why does a God of love allow evil? Because He is a God of LOVE.

So Great a Salvation

So, how practical is Christianity? The Bible presents an infinite Creator with the very attributes we would expect when we examine the things that are made. And God, as a personal Being, in order that He might have a love relationship with us, gave us the capacity of choice. In order that we might have a practical revelation of His love, His wisdom, His power, His glory, He became one of us in the person of the Messiah, Jesus Christ.

In order that we might not suffer the penalty of our evil choices (sin), He, like a loving father, paid the penalty for our sins. He allowed his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to be murdered on a Roman cross (arguably the most evil act in the history of the universe, if He is indeed God's Son). But this act of great evil gave rise to an even better state of affairs, and the greatest act of love in the universe: paying the penalty for the wrong choices we make, which were the result of the way He created us in the first place! In the cross of Christ He has provided a full pardon from the consequences of the evil in our lives. Consequently, we cannot look to God and declare that He is unfair. Far from being a devil, in this examination of the problem of evil, God becomes the hero of the plot and the solution to the problem of evil. And it all hinges on LOVE. Indeed, God is love.3 What must we do to receive this pardon?

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9.

God bless.

Teresa, I see value in both ways of dealing with the painful aspects of life; first (and most importantly) bringing them before the Lord in prayer & leaving it with Him to help you through them, and secondly, to seek a sympathetic ear & wise counsel from a trusted caring person. The New Testament Church was always encouraged to look out for each other & to attend to each one's needs ( Galatians 6:2; Hebrews 13:16; Romans 12:13; James 2:15,16; 1 John 3:16,17). God has given us a wonderful access, through His Spirit, right into His Throne room, but He has also provided 'family' used by Him to bring comfort & hope as well.

Sometimes, when we are over-burdened with problems, all that we have to share with another are only our problems & very little else. So your friend might be feeling that all she hears from you are your issues only & sees you in great anxiety or overly depressed because of them. And this might in turn depress her, hence her reaction. In many cases, the person with a huge problem isn't able to think clearly through it (its cause, ways to deal with it, support from others, etc.). That's where 'a friend' needs to be able to really listen & help you work through it & always be there for you. Often, your pastor or Christian counsellor can listen attentively & give good advice & also follow-up. The main thing, is for you to re-gain your peace in heart & mind from the Lord, hang onto Him in both your good & bad times, read His Word, & not give up. He has blessed each one of us with life, life to be lived for Him. So the Author of Life will certainly be with those whose trust rests only in Him. "Weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning" ( Psalm 30:5). May the Lord guide you very specially in your concerns & help you live above them, looking for His Arm to work mightily on your behalf.

I agree, there's a way to disagree in a polite way but there's when someone starts preaching "the rapture doesn't exist, Salvation by Grace doesn't exist, eternal security doesn't exist;" I have to say -- it that how we should be writing on the King James Bible Online? Are comments like that going to draw fellowship or create harsh division. I disagree with every point he made but it's the way he said it too. He wrote it to try to shame those that believe.

There are plenty of things I disagree with in churches today but I'm not here to bring about divisions. I believe in lifting up others with the word; not searching for ways to mock offend the brethren.

1 John 3:16 - Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

That's the love we ought to have. Also I agree with you, attention is needed to the other tabs of discussion especially the 'prayer requests' side of things. Sometimes when a prayer request is being written here - it's because that person has no where and no one else to write to.

God bless!

reading first john 3:6-10 makes me feel that there's something wrong with me because i reconnise that i sin everyday in verse 8 he says he that committe sin is of the devil an in verse

9he says who so ever is born of God doth not commit sin , so my question is how can i be born of God an not sin , in one verse he tells us that we sinn everyday thriugh , word , thought , an deed , so what do i do to be born of GOD that i sinn know more ?