Discuss John 3 Page 28

  • Slavik - In Reply - 2 years ago
    i don't know, just something random thought's i've had over time...

    as the Old Testament say's, if there is a prophet among you, i will reveal myself to him in a dream or vision..

    and i've sorta had one... it was kinda like a dream and a vision.. to be honest, as far as i remember..

    it was year's back..

    it was the NAME JESUS, in vivid white letter's, and it was powerful, and it was conveying that He would save everyone, somehow someday, in what way i am not too sure, but it's not exactly in connection with Revelation, so maybe it's something to shy away from, but just kind of going out on a limb here obviously, and sharing my thought's, as i've have been a Bible thumper of the original 66 books for a long time now, and am interested to find out what the Catholic Bible and other Texts have to say, such as LDS scriptures and so forth..

    i don't know, just thought i'd share some random stuff, while at the same time, not trying to disobey, add or take away from these word's, God will take away his share from the Tree of Life, not trying to do that either, so go figure the crucifying thought's of my mind as to how to share why i wrote what i wrote about John 3:37,

    there's alot more to share...might as well, since it's simply Bible talk, and relative i guess, but in no-wise, trying to make anyone lose their salvation or my own, but sharing beyond what is written, simultaneously, confused about the inculcation's of dictation's of men that would enclose themselves to strict rigid religion, but simultaneously, call themselves Free in Christ, just the paradox is crucifying to my mind as to how to understand or dichotamize what is Ok and what's not as a Christian..

    so here is the rest of the Vision, that i had..

    God would die for the most Wicked one day..

    Jesus died for the Church, the Zealous and in Love with Him, Jesus freak's you can say..

    and the Holy Spirit would die for the angel's spirits that fell from Heaven

    and thus as written in Colossians 1, all would be
  • Adam - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    In original texts there weren't numbers, so as a convenience they were numbered by verses to make it easy to reference and study. I believe some translations group some verses differently than others. I don't believe it's a matter of anything "missing" but a matter of organization. Sometimes when you see something "missing" it may appear in the previous verse. That is my opinion. God bless.
  • Patrick Corrao - 2 years ago
    Compare Baptist Beliefs (Doctrines) to Dispensationalist - Rightly Dividing Scriptures.

    i.e.,

    1. are the books - Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Acts 1-8, a continuation of the Old Testament?

    2. Difference between Water and Spirit Baptism.

    3. Difference between Law and Grace.

    4. Where is the Gospel of Salvation found?

    5. Do Baptists obey the 10 commandments today?

    6. What is repentance of sins and is it necessary for Salvation?

    7. Is John 3:16 necessary for Salvation?

    8. How did people in the OT get saved and is it the same for rtoday?

    9. Compare tithing in the OT and what is tithing (how much) for today.

    10. Are all Bible version inspired and which one should be used today?

    11. Should contemprary christian music (CCM) be played in the churches?

    12. Was the Lords prayer for Israel or everyone today?

    13. Was the sermon on the mount for Israel or everyone today?

    I am asking these questions for the sole purpose of knowing what the truth is.

    I really see so many differences and not sure where the truth is.

    Thank you,

    Patrick Corrao
  • Mishael - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Sometimes not all of the disciples were present with each other, when Jesus taught something.

    There is something called HARMONY of the Gospels because four disciples were seeing and hearing the same thing so the scriptures will be written very similar or very differently IF one of them was not present at the time and their writings will not be worded identically.

    They were not all together when they wrote the books for the Bible that they were canonized the same. The times or years of the writing could be different too.

    It helps greatly to be using A REFERENCE BIBLE. The ones with a CENTER OF EACH PAGE REFERENCE COLUMN, will have tiny "a-b-c" notes that point to a similar passage, a prophesy, or additional information (like a harmony scripture).

    John 3:36****

    He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    John 3:18

    He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    I used the search engine on this website and I used Google search to verify your claim.

    there was some indication that Apostle Luke wrote a harmonizing verse but I couldn't find it; maybe someone else can, but I thought I would write back and let you know.

    These were quotes of Jesus. In answer to your question, Book of John never had a verse 37 in Chapter 3.

    That's why most of us are using The King James Bible. It makes studying easier, conversation, interpretation easier.

    You sound like a good student. Treat yourself to Reference Study version of the KJB Bible.
  • Jeanie S Laborde - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Sue!

    Yes! Please look at Mark 16:16 " he who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned."

    Yes this makes it very plain.

    With that said are there exceptios?

    Yes! Remember the two that was crucify with Jesus. Remember 1 I had said if you or the son of God save yourself and us. But the other their said Lord remember me. Christ told him he will be with him in his Fathers kingdom. Was he baptized? No. But his faith in Jesus saved him.

    Here are more scriptures you can read on the subject.

    Romans 6:4

    Eph. 4:5

    Mark 1:9-10

    John 3:23

    1Peter 2:21

    Is it a matter of personal opinion? Yes! But not yours or mine. But is Christ's command.

    Go to John 3:5

    "Unless one is horned of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

    Hope this helps my friend.

    If you need more let me know.

    God bless my friend.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Is that verse in another translation? Was that a scripture added after the findings of the Dead Sea Scrolls? Is there a footnote?
  • Slavik on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Why is their no John 3:37
  • Marke - 2 years ago
    Jesus made a distinction between sins that will be forgiven and the sin that will never be forgiven in Mark 3.

    28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

    29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

    Even some blasphemy shall be forgiven but there is a blasphemy that shall never be forgiven. It is very important to understand the difference. Jesus actually paid for the sins of the whole world on the cross, with the exception of the sin here referred to as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

    One key detail we should note about the "unpardonable sin" is that it is not a sin of ignorance. Nobody can commit the unpardonable sin in ignorance. Nicodemus had already testified of the Pharisees that they knew Jesus was of God because of the miracles he did ( John 3:2) but the Pharisees here accused Jesus of performing miracles by the power of the devil.

    What was the real crime here that was so serious as to seal a person's doom in hell? It was the crime of lying against the known truth of God revealing a hateful rejection of the Holy Spirit's message to their hearts that Jesus is God and that sinners must come to Him for forgiveness and salvation. When the Holy Spirit enlightens a sinner if that sinner rejects the light he stands near the dropping off point into hell reserved for all who hatefully reject Jesus because of their love for sin.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hey Philip Murray,

    I agree there is not any scripture that states at any time anyone goes to heaven. And Jesus is the only one who has gone to heaven from where He came John 3:13. Scriptures have been used to create a beautiful picture with the premise of not having to go through the tribulation that is coming but will be taken to heaven, adding a return of Jesus before His second coming.

    There are several names Morgan Edwards, Edward Irving, a teenage girl in the lowlands of Scotland named Margaret MacDonald, and more, but spread by John Darby, and C.I. Scofield with the study bible with footnotes helped promote the doctrine. This is a deception I feel that Satan is behind, for those who are still living at the end (my opinion).

    Where is in the air? Is it heaven? In Strong's 109 air (The air, lower air we breathe). In Strong's 3772 air Heavens, the visible heavens, the atmosphere, the sky, the starry heavens, the spiritual heavens. The word air 109 was used in 1Thessalonians 4:17 and seems as it says, it's no higher than the clouds. Now, this is a gathering in the air-breathing sky. Jesus will reign on this earth and also the elect, Revelation 11:15 2 Thimothy 2:12 Revelation 5:10 on earth not in heaven and on the new earth Revelation 21:1 Revelation 22:1-5.

    No scripture says we are taken up to heaven after we meet Jesus but there is the scripture that says where Jesus goes when He returns. On that day His feet will stand Zechariah 14:4, He will send His angels to gather the elect, after the tribulation, Matthew 24:29-31 Mark 13:24-27. The earth is round, and the elect will be global when gathered will be in the air going to meet Jesus.

    I could say more but it is up to us individually to pray and study for the understanding what is the truth led by the Holy Spirit. Consider the context when you study.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hey Phil,

    This is a question that comes up and you will receive different understandings. Are we to say who is right and who is wrong? No. When we study, we must be careful and do not attempt to make the biblical narrative conform to some preconceived framework we bring to it.

    If there were people before Adam and Eve, does it change anything? Do we overlook scripture that infers that God did create other people before Adam and Eve? Do we overlook the fowl which the water brought forth on day five doesn't match the fowl God formed out of the ground after He formed Adam out of the dust of the ground when Adam was alone?

    Same with the beast of the field formed out of the ground after Adam when the beast of the earth was on day six before man, male and female? Could Adam and Eve be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and have dominion over every living thing that moveth upon the earth that God had created when they were in the garden of Eden?

    If we consider, God told them to be fruitful and multiply and have dominion over the earth after they were taken out of the garden, could God have said after day six everything was very good? After the flood, all are descendants of Adam and Eve, so Eve is the mother of all living. The line that leads us the the last Adam Jesus Christ.

    1 Corinthians 15:45-47 In this, Jesus our Lord said to be the second man, the last Adam, my understanding goes to 1 John 3:8. We must keep in mind who sinned first and is the father of lies John.8:44. The first Adams purpose was more than starting mankind but starting the plan of salvation that is in the second man, the last Adam Jesus Christ, we take off the old man and put on the new man, Colossians 3:8-10.

    May the Holy Spirit bring you to your understanding. I pray I do not confuse with my different understanding.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Free - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 2 years ago
    Dear "Douglas L Walker". He hears your prayer. Pray blessed in His name Jesus, love you in Christ.

    1 John 3:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

    9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    * Psalms 34:18,

    1John 3:20, Hebrews 4:12, Hebrews 10:22, Matthew 6:19-21,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 2 years ago
    It should be noted that "accepting" Jesus is something the demons do according to James (and rather sarcastically at that). He is feared among them for His authority; but not worshipped as they gave up their rightful place through rebellion that they were created for. Christ is Lord over all creation; as all will bow down before Him. ( Isaiah 45:23). In terms of Savior; all those who are called are chosen. This is in a sense Him "accepting us" as He does into the beloved ( Ephesians 1:6). Even repentance is a gift according to other verses in Acts 11:18 for one example.

    If we HAVE heard of Christ; then we can either worship Him and fall on our knees; or reject Him. This is how man understands God based on whether the Holy Spirit has truly done a work in him. Often; though we don't read John 3:16 as something beyond a one time act; it is worded that way though as a continual ongoing process. A true believer; according to Romans goes on to be glorified ( Romans 8:30). Time is infinite with God's perspective; as many things were decided before the foundation of the world. We can see this in Revelation; as well as all will worship the Beast not written in the Book of Life before the foundation of the world ( Rev. 13:8).

    If we haven't heard of Him; then surely God will send a dream; vision or missionary as evidenced by many Muslims and others in the world today. Abraham was called and sent away from his pagan origins to the land of Promise by the Lord.

    If we truly seek Him; there may be a process but we will find the truth. Romans 1 and Psalm 19 make man without excuse; as clearly in the Creation evidence of Him is seen. In all that we see how short we are of His glory; a tattered fallen Creation; and our need for rescue from inevitable physical death as well as begin to see a righteousness that we cannot obtain or reach in our fleshy nature. Ecclesiastes also states how God has put "eternity in their hearts." ( Ecclesiastes 3:11).
  • Adam - In Reply on Luke 23 - 2 years ago
    All people are invited into salvation. Galatians 3:28

    If you are referring to the religion of Judaism these verses answer that:

    John 14:6, Acts 4:12, John 3:16

    Only those who believe and follow Jesus will receive salvation. This who reject Jesus should not expect salvation.

    God bless...
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Luke 23 - 2 years ago
    Yes, Matthew 2:2, Luke 23:51, John 4:22, John 8:31, John 11:45, Acts 14:1, Acts 17:1-4, Acts 21:20, Acts 22:12, Paul himself was,is Acts 26:4, Revelation 7:5,

    John 3:15-21, Matthew 25:31-46,
  • Free - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Hi dear "Lyda Bonds", i do not quite understand what you mean here. If i can, i will be very happy to help you.

    In the meantime, you can get a word that is in 1 Corinthians 13.

    Be blessed in His holy Name Jesus, love u in Christ
  • RichFairhurst - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Typology in Christian theology and biblical exegesis is a doctrine or theory concerning the relationship of the Old Testament to the New Testament. Events, persons, or statements in the Old Testament are seen as types prefiguring or superseded by antitypes, events or aspects of Christ or his revelation described in the New Testament.

    Jesus told the Pharisees in John 5:39-40,45-46:

    39. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

    45. Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. 46. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

    So if you or I read Moses and we don't see Jesus in what he wrote, Moses will accuse us of missing the whole point of what he wrote that was supposed to lead us to eternal life. I can't afford to do that. Can you?

    For Adam as a type of Christ

    1 Corinthians 15:45-49

    Christ as the last Adam. Adam is the first man and Christ is the second man. I think this verse gives me the latitude to say Christ is the second Adam, bit if you disagree read my post with the words last Adam instead.

    1 Corinthians 15:21-22

    Romans 5:12-19

    Both of these passages show either by contrast or by similarity to how Christ's uniquely fulfills the role that Adam was supposed to fulfill, but failed at. Christ is the antitype of Adam according to Paul's teaching.

    For Noah as a type of Christ

    1 Peter 3:18-22

    "By like figure" is Peter's way of saying baptism and the resurrection of Christ is the antitype of Noah and his household being saved in the Arc.

    The bronze serpent Moses lifted in the wilderness is a type of Christ on the cross. Numbers 21:6-9. John 3:14-15

    Sarah and Hagar are types of the Old Covenant of the Law and the New Covenant of grace. Galatians 4:21-31. Paul calls this an allegory, but he uses it extensively for his doctrine.
  • JC SERVANT - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Whenever Jesus spoke of Himself as the Son of Man, He did not use the Greek word ANER - that simply denotes an individual male; instead, He used the Greek ANTHROPOS, from which our English word anthropology is derived. It means humanity, and includes men, women and children. The Literal Concordant Translation uses the term, Son of Mankind. This helps us to understand that Jesus is talking about a corporate man whenever He refers to the Son of Mankind. This adds depth and meaning to everything He says in regard to His redemption and His coming again.

    In the conversation Jesus had with Nicodemus, Jesus said, "No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: even the Son of Man." ( John 3:13) We know that Jesus did not come down from heaven as a physical man. In this statement Jesus made a distinction between Himself and Adam, the first man. Adam was formed of dust; he did not come down from heaven. God blew His breath into Adam's nostrils, and he became a living soul - he was not a life-giving spirit. As we have already explained, he was a mixture of the earthy and the divine; he was an earthy image of God, for in a spiritual image of God there can be no dust. Man is not a physical image of God, for God is Spirit, and therefore an image of God has to be a spiritual image. Adam differed from the animals God had created in that he could think logically, he was creative, and he could worship God! Animals are unable to do these things. Adam's identification was NOT with his Creator, for he rebelled against God. In Adam all die (literally, all are dying). Therefore a new humanity was needed: a humanity that would be in agreement with God instead of in opposition to Him; a humanity that did not have any earthiness in it.

    An understanding of the Son of Man has to come to us by revelation. In Matthew 16 Jesus asked the disciples an important question, namely, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" After that He asked the disciples this very question, and
  • Free - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Dear "Lyda Bonfd" i'm really sorry for all the injustice you've experienced. I will try to comfort u, you are a Christian with all your heart. What was the Lord promising those who follow Him?

    Mark 10:28 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.

    29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,

    30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

    So if you read and understand, you should love knowing that Jesus will reward you with much more than what you have lost.

    God hates all injustice. And He lover those who Love Him in Jesus Name. Or He tries to tell you something more, do not give up dear sister. Search for what He wants to tell you! You can try and seek the Lord for what He says about Tithing. It may give you some Aha experiences. You can seek Him at any time, He will listen to you. He will let you understand, so remember that you must be responsive as well. God bless us all in Jesus name too understand what His will are. Fill yourself with the love of God so that you can forgive, for your own sake. Pray for and receive a forgiven heart.

    Philippians 2:14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

    15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

    Amen in Jesus Christ holy Name above all other names. Love u in Christ
  • Lyda Bonds on John 3 - 2 years ago
    They believe in Scientology which has been proven to be the act of the devil They have no conscious no way to feel what the other person feels. I have always done transference to meet the child where they are. They call me a narcissist but they do not know me. I stand strong in my convictions and believe they are trying to take me away from God. My God is bigger than they are but it does not stop their evil ways I believe the domain stand for the tor domain Image you life on the dark deep web Their cruelty is beyond words
  • Lyda Bonfd on John 3 - 2 years ago
    I believe in God as my protector but sometimes it is not to stop people from stealing for you so they must be born of the serpentine. I would like nothing better for the serpentine s to disappear from my life. I value God not the devil and I would like to remove those of the devil from my life I am a whole hearted Christian that does not wish evil on anyone so why are the people acting like the devil. Maybe that is why they refuse to show who they are. They steal they have ruined my name and sold me for profit and refuse to pay me for their abuse of me. Should I take them to court but I do not believe an eye for sn eye that is the devil that acts that way. These people are heartless and only care about money. Once I going just what they were doing I have been punished with nothing but cruelty That is the devil. They are the ones that will have to ask God for forgiveness if they want to sit at the right hand of the father. This is a very bad situation and I have been threaten you tell on us you think your life is bad now wait and see how much harder your life will be meaning they will steal what little money I have and most likely set my house on fire. They have flooded my home 2 times and broken all garage doors They spy on me they have taken over my car and put me a 65 year old on an open source for everyone to have a piece of me. This is very cruel and I hope God sees their actions and takes them away from me. I want my money they stole which is over 2million dollars. And the 1 billion dollar mistake of s null so I think they should pay me 30billion dollars for the abuse they have caused. They also caused me my job by hacking my guidance office and listening to every word I said. they infringed on students rights. I will never forgive them for that. They made my computer not work for me while they stole money from s scholarship account. My life has been brutal because of their theft How much sense does that make
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    John 3:22 --- suggests that Jesus baptized others

    John 4:1-2 ---- suggests that maybe Jesus oversaw the baptisms, but that His disciples actually carried it out
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Jesus didn't HAVE to die. He chose to.

    John Chapter 10

    16 And other sheep I have

    (Gentiles), which are not of THIS fold (the Jewish believers): them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be ONE fold, and one shepherd.

    17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

    18 No man take it (His Life) from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

    Why? John 3:16
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi dear. As concise as possible. To get the whole picture, you can read the Hebrews, in new testament.

    Because the whole Word must be fulfilled, Jesus came for us all died on the cross, when He did that He fulfilled the law.

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

    John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

    Hebrew 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

    24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

    When God Speak He who created the whole world and everything around us.

    Genesis 2:3

    And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

    Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of

    He created from what He sees from His thought's. He diddent only created thats who is like nice cats and dogs, but everything that we sees He created. And not only that we can see. We have a creation beyond that, more heavens and evan more earth becouse we have a underworld as well.

    Romans 1:20

    For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    When God speak who is Holy it has too be fulfilled. 1 Timothy 1:17

    Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever.

    Ephesians 3:10 God bless u in Jesus Name.

    Amen.
  • Free - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Hi "Ruth" all answer is right, a personal experience here, i did not know where i stood. I wandered here and there, and unfortunately i also followed the spirit of the times in this world, the antichrist.

    Because since we that time still where "children", we have every right not to know everything, every right to ask, explore, learn and so on. We still do Everyday. 2 Thessalonians 1:12 Acts 8:16

    But when the Spirit in us awakens, we will no longer go around making mistakes. The Holy Spirit helps us if we let Him lead us where we do belongs. Namely with God in our Spirit where we can find strength, courage and forgiveness Spirit and the Spirit of love. And everything else good is there.

    That Spirit makes us living Sources who speak right and do right because we believe in Jesus Christ Is the Son of God. Nor will the Holy Spirit ever stop and give us words in our mouths to preach about Jesus Christ. John 7:38

    So when i walked around there in the dark before God found me. I did not have this Source because i was not filled with the Holy Spirit.

    But here we come to something central and important. All God gives us is Grace over Grace. Because when i look back on my life without Him and my life with Him, i understand that i have been under Grace because He has been with me from the first day of my life.

    Because when we are lost or confused, we can not even say the Lord Jesus name. Only if we are in the Holy Spirit can we say that.

    1 Corinthians 12:3

    At this stage i am also comforted since He has been so gracious to me. I want to believe that He is just as gracious with everyone else. When we can not say Jesus Christ from our mouths if we are not in the Holy Spirit. So i hear people say Jesus Christ with their mouths, is not it a confession in a way? Therefore, i attribute these people to the Lord. And He saves them to Himself after His will, i'm moving on. Hallelujah the Lord is near. Acts 8-9 Chapter. God bless us in Jesus Christ.
  • Adam - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Hi Ruth, I believe it means water baptism. Water baptism is mentioned many times in the New Testament and is both physical and symbolic. If it wasn't important then Jesus would never have mentioned it and He wouldn't have baptized nor been baptized Himself, nor talked so much about it. But when I read it with an open mind and with no regard to denominational influence, it's obvious to me that at bare minimum this act of obedience is extremely important. The verses below are quite compelling. Beware of anyone who tries to sway you away from obeying or following Jesus. We can best avoid false teaching if we read God's Word and pray for wisdom and understanding. Link

    Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    John 14:15 - "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    God bless
  • T Levis - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Hi, Ruth,

    I just read that verse. John 3:27,

    Baptism & HOLY Spirit is many's belief.

    Water & Spirit also could just simply mean natural birth & spiritual. John 3:5-6,

    John 3, if you read in context John 3:3, John 3:15-21,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • GiGi - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Hello Ruth, Nice to meet you here.

    This verse has been the topic of many discussions on this site. My suggestion is for you to google the question and read from some reputable Christian sites say about this. These articles usually site 3 or 4 meanings for this verse. If you truly want to understand this verse about being born anew, I think it is important to discover what has been taught since the beginning of the church age up to now.

    In my research, the early church fathers of the first few centuries interpreted this passage as referring to water baptism being the means of being born of water and the spirit. This view speaks of being cleansed from sin through repentance and of our sins being "washed" away (in the spiritual sense) by the waters of baptism, which indicates a total cleansing from sin and by being a new creation by the work of the Holy Spirit who regenerates us. The early church fathers viewed that being born anew by water and the spirit as concurring simultaneously in water baptism. This was the view of the church from the 1st century up to the times after the Reformation in the 1500's when various sects began to promulgate the other views you will find in your research and the in the replies to you question on this site.

    I do not wish to promote my view on this here, so I won't. But I did want to the historical viewpoint from the church age and refer you to research further on this on various Christian sites. these sites give good explanations citing Scripture, which I think is always good.
  • Ruth on John 3 - 2 years ago
    I have a question regarding being born of the water and spirit. What exactly does this mean?
  • D W L on 2 Timothy 4:2 - 2 years ago
    John 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

    5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

    6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

    7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

    Luke 8:5-8 Jesus said this very plain to see. You see the seed is Jesus, some fell on a rock these didn't want to be a new creature, others by the way side wouldn't follow Jesus, others fell among thorns - you can't have both Jesus and the world, And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. If you want to follow Jesus you can. Joining a church don't save, John 3:7 Ye must be born again --- (Just believing alone don't save)



    Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. II Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


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