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The first step to salvation is to believe,that is what I mean many people get turned off from some of the rules of some churches ex no dancing no singing no drinking when Jesus gave the last supper it was wine that was the blood of Christ not juice.Now if that is a problem for some I would not drink so as to make them to sin but for me.The blood of Christ was wine and I rejoice and sing and dance and praise God Hallelujah the lion of Judah has come Fear not.Read about the woes of the pharisees and the scribes blocking some people from heaven and not getting there themselves.Jesus in his love and mercy wants all to come to him,the path is narrow but Jesus died for all of us.God bless you brother for more wisdom on the subject.Therefore there is no condemnation for those who are in Jesus Christ. John 3:16 For God so loved the world,that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

No one has ascended to heaven of God yet; but Jesus, Enoch and Elijah; {God News and Bad News. Hear all; the world, this is truth; in the movie of F9; Toretto family; you will hear these. 1. a truth declared by Vin Diesel, his little kid from almost 9 years old ask where is God? And Vin Diesel; declares this; Here and point on the little kid's heart, it's inside of you all the time; (TRUTH) for he is our breath of life. 2, the lie by a women talking to the same little kid; that she said; your Mother is watching you from heaven! (LIE) Just Jesus has ascended toward heaven of our heavenly Father, because he has descended from there first, and after he died and being resurrected at the third day, his body was transformed in a celestial body made out of the light of the Glory of God's Holy Spirit, then he was able to be again as he was the whole eternity, our God Holy Spirit. And for your knowledge Jesus when he was on earth declared this to the best master of Israelites Nicodemus; { John 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Are you a master of Israel, and know not these things? John 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto you, we speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and you receive not our witness. John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? John 3:13 "And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."}; So the same lie is always confirmed to the relatives of every guys in a funeral service, that the deceased person will be at heaven, but it is not; when he dies he goes to the presence of God; but is sent to; if approved, goes to paradise, Abraham bosom, on the depths of earth, and if is rejected, is sent toward the darkness in Hell; the chambers that incarcerated the wicked people.) means spiritual realm; not heaven, really. God is everywhere, he is omniscient, can be everywhere because he can do it he fill heavens and e

BBBob. How do you understand Matthew 16:23? Was it Peter or Satan who was standing before Jesus? If it was Peter, why did Jesus speak to him as Satan? Maybe, 1 John 3:12 has a similar application: that Cain was driven by Satan in what he did to his brother & wasn't a product of some type of strange birth of a spirit with a human being. And the same could be said of John 8:44.

Hi ChrisE,

Thanks for your response and thoughts, as well as all of your related scripture, I read all of your scripture, and the scripture is all very good, but it does not convince me that water baptism is no longer a requirement for a Christian.

When I read scripture I place the most weight when Jesus speaks (because he is speaking from God). Here is Jesus speaking about water baptism:

John 3:5

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

Jesus said there must be 2 actions (TWO ACTIONS ARE REQUIRED) We must be born of Water and of the Spirit! Done. If you argue with this, then you are really arguing directly with Jesus, in my opinion.

Here is additional scripture showing 2 ACTIONS are required:

Mark 16:16

"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

He that believeth - We must believe - 1st ACTION

and is Baptized - WE must be baptized - 2nd ACTION

The scripture doesn't just say we must just believe, we must do BOTH!

Last, but not least, my question would really be, why wouldn't a Christian want to be baptized in water and the spirit, as Jesus states: to enter the kingdom of Heaven?

God Bless.

My comment is partly a question. Isaiah 46:10 - 12

Indeed God loves all the people he created out of his image by sending his son Jesus Christ. Even though there is a condition to it, which is to accept his son as Lord and savior. John 3:16

My question is that, does these verses in lsaiah 46:10 and 12 fulfilling the end times to our generation because sin has gone beyond man's understanding and what is verse eleven teaching us about the ravenous bird that will occur from the east ( some versions describes as 'far' east), to which God will permit to happen in this generation.

Bible commentors l need your comment on this.

I will appreciate you.

Thanks

My comment is partly a question. Isaiah 46:10 - 12

Indeed God loves all the people he created out of his image by sending his son Jesus Christ. Even though there is a condition to it, which is to accept his son as Lord and savior. John 3:16

My question is that, does these verses in lsaiah 46:10 and 12 fulfilling the end times to our generation because sin has gone beyond man's understanding and what is verse eleven teaching us about the ravenous bird that will occur from the east ( some versions describes as 'far' east), to which God will permit to happen in this generation.

Bible commentors l need your comment on this.

I will appreciate you.

Thanks

Why say "If a man love me ... my Father will love him" ( John 14:23a) if the Father loves everybody? Proverbs 8:17 says, "I love them that love Me." Psalm 5:5 says, "Thou hatest all workers of iniquity" Notice it doesn't say works of iniquity; it says workers. This verse alone is a flat out repudiation of the teaching that, God hates sin but loves the sinner. Scripture says that "God is angry with the wicked every day." ( Psalm 7:11) John 3:36 says, "He that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him" Can God "love" the one on whom His "wrath" abides? Finally, Romans 9:13 says, As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Paul asks rhetorically, "What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion." Romans 9:14-15.

As for the verses you cite to suggest that I am violating God's "love" command, those verses are directed to the community of believers in Christ. What applies to believers does not apply to those who believe and promote a false gospel and serve the god of this world. That's why I said before that you are not my brother. Jesus told the Pharisees, "ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep." The tares and the wheat look alike until they produce fruit and are ready for harvest. The tares turn black and their fruit is poison; the wheat turns golden brown and its fruit is life sustaining. You and most people who identify as Christians are tares sown by Satan. Most people can't see the difference between the the wheat and tares because they look so much alike. It's been my experience that the tares hate the truth and openly resist it and they attack those who hold the truth in God's written word. This is how I know that you and your like-minded fellows on this site are tares full of hatred for the truth of Scripture and those who promote the gospel of grace.

2 Corinthians 5:10

John 14:1-3

Luke 10:20

Mark 13: 32-37

Revelation 3: 10

Matthew 24: 1-51

Philippians 3:20-21

Romans 8: 18-19

Acts 1: 7-11

Daniel 12: 1-2

1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

1 Thessalonians 4: 1-18

Revelation 12: 1-17

Revelation 19: 1-21

1 John 1: 3:3

Titus 2:13

Matthew 16:27

Colossians 3:2-4

Luke 21: 34-36

James 4:8

Ten Virgins story: Matthew 25

John 3:16

We must be born again at which time Jesus will give to you, The Holy Spirit.

On this website, out on the Red Link Page; BECOME A CHRISTIAN (which means Christ Jesus Follower)

Jesus is not escape insurance. He is the Son of God. He is the only one who can save us. So write that list of verses down on a sheet of paper and read in the Bible of them every day.

FAITHFUL IS HE WHO MADE THESE PROMISES.

[hey yall, don't send emails saying the word rapture is not in the Bible. I know that. It is called: CAUGHT UP or IN THE CLOUDS. Not everyone knows Greek or Hebrew. Thanks,

Mishael

Righteous Judgment

** John 7:24 **

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

2 Thessalonians 1:5

Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

Romans 2:5

But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

1 John 3:7

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

Ezekiel 3:21

Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

Matthew 10:41

He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

Matthew 23:28

Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

John 5:22

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Once I got busted by Jesus for judging. We were street ministering; and all the Catholics would drive by the Catholic Church, tip their beers and holler out the priests names. honk the horn at us :/

The Holy Spirit leaned on me and said quietly but no nonsense..DO NOT JUDGE !

All you can do is fall down and say YESSIR!!!

(cont) in the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts of the Bible. Agape is a higher form of unconditional, Godly love and philia is a lesser form used for friendship or brotherly love. The ignorant criticize the KJV translators for translating "agape" simply as love. The truth is the Greek words agapao/agape and phileo/philia overlap in the manuscripts, and there's no discernible difference between the two in the Scripture. For example, 2 Samuel 13:15 says, "Then Amnon hated her exceedingly; so that the hatred wherewith he hated her was greater than the love wherewith he had loved her. And Amnon said unto her, Arise, be gone." The problem is that both agapao and the cognate agape can refer to Amnon's incestuous rape of his half sister Tamar. Also, backslidden Demas who loves the world with agape love. "For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica;" 2 Timothy 4:10. There's John 3:35 that says, "The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand,"; later John 5:20 says, "For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth." The Father's love for the Son, which is without question the greatest love, is described as "agape love" in one instance and "phileo love" in the other, and by the same author, John. Houston, we have a problem. The point is there isn't a way to know what kind of love each of these Greek words is referring to in Scripture. Context is key. Bottom line, the Bible's been translated into English, and the 47 translators of the King James Bible did an inerrant, infallible job. You and today's scholars and translators, not so much. Knowing Greek is fine for reading and understanding Greek myths and literature, but not for reading and understanding Scripture, which is God's written word. One thing more, I don't care that you consult the Greek to study your Bible, but I do care when you imply or suggest that it's better to defer to the Greek to know the truth of Scripture.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. [Jesus]

{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3,

John 16:7-15]

Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to baptize us, Teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first.

CAUTION: the phrase 'God the Grandson' is NOT in the KJV Bible.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3,

John 16: 7-15]

The word: Grandson is no where in the King James Bible. To teach this to lambs in arms and Gods sheep, is not good.

Let us all Read, 1 Timothy 6. All of it.

We all bear the responsibility to teach the truth.

Read/study the book of John. Jesus has much to say about him and God the Father being one in the same.

John 1:48, John 3:13, John 5:18 :)

Sister Melody, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

God is SPIRIT.

Christ is SPIRIT (God) with a (glorified) BODY.

SPIRIT is TRUTH (cannot be deceived).

SPIRIT is LIFE (cannot die).

WE are FLESH.

FLESH is against (anti) SPIRIT.

FLESH is against (anti) TRUTH.

FLESH is against (anti) LIFE.

Christ came as FLESH, Christ died; and with his death ALL FLESH DIED, Christ (through the power of SPIRIT was resurrected), when he was resurrected ALL FLESH was resurrected (most are dead in UNBELIEF (trespasses) not knowing TRUTH.

The wages of sin (UNBELIEF) IS DEATH.

The wages of GO AND SIN NO MORE (BELIEF) is LIFE and TRUTH (born of SPIRIT).

Those that come to know TRUTH (born again of the SPIRIT; which is TRUTH AND LIFE, the first death and first resurrection) will NEVER DIE they will leave this BODY of FLESH and be given the (glorified BODY of CHRIST).

John 3:13 No man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of Man which is in heaven.

Christ (Spirit, Truth, Life) is IN YOU. You are the NEW HEAVEN.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven.....

Revelation 21:3 ...Behold, the (temple, Christ is the temple) tabernacle of God is with (WITHIN) men..

Revelation 21:22... for the Lord God almighty and the Lamb are THE TEMPLE of it.

Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery.... CHRIST IN YOU ....

1 Corinthians 3:16 ....ye are the temple (ONE IN CHRIST) of God (SPIRIT).

Truth (Good)(Spirit) overcomes deception (Evil) (Flesh).

Truth will make you a full brother to Christ. SPIRIT with a (glorified) BODY.

Luke 20:36 Neither can they die ANY MORE (you died with Christ); for they are equal to the angels (MINISTERING SPIRITS), and are the children of God (Spirit, truth, life), being the children of (CHRIST'S) resurrection.

Revelation 14:13 Blessed are they which DIE IN THE LORD (Spirit, Truth, Life) from henceforth....

Verse Daniel 8:9. Out of one of them came forth a little horn - Some think that Antiochus Epiphanes is meant; it is the Roman government that is intended; and although very great at its zenith, yet very little in its rising.

Waxed-great toward the south - The Romans made Egypt a province of their empire, and it continued such for some centuries.

Toward the east - They conquered Syria, and made it a province.

Toward the pleasant land.] Judea, so called Psalms 106:24; Jeremiah 3:19; Daniel 11:16; Daniel 11:41. It is well known that they took Judea, and made it a province; and afterwards burnt the city and the temple, and scattered the Jews over the face of the earth.

THE PROPHECY

Dan: 9:24: Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people (Jews) and upon thy holy city, (Jerusalem) to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins (SIN is the transgression of god's law), and to make reconciliation for iniquity(Christ did that when he died see Isaiah 53, and to bring in everlasting righteousness(see 1john 3:5 in him there is no sin), and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most holy. (place

0. Da:9:25: Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince(Jesus) shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Dan: 9:26: """And after threescore and two weeks"""(in the last week) shall Messiah (Jesus) be cut off, (die) but not for himself,( for the sins of the world) and the people (solders') of the prince (Titus PRINCE OF ROME his father was Vespasian Cesar Pontifex Maximus pagan high priest).that shall come( in AD 70) shall destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary;(temple) and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

What does ""cut off"" mean Isa: 53:8: He was taken from prison and from judgment:

Precious friend, IMKane: "Paul seems to be saying there were TWO gospels." Yes, Biblically Correct! Note the following 'Dispensational' Differences Between God's TWO Gospels:

Part I Gospel of the kingdom =

Gospel of the circumcision ( Galatians 2:7; Acts 3:25-26; Genesis 17:9-14)

Preached by John, Jesus, and the 12 ( Matthew 3:2; Matthew 4:17; Matthew 4:23; Matthew 9:35; Matthew 10:5-8)

The Prophecy Program for the Jews ( Luke 1:32-33; Luke 3:19-26; Daniel 2:44; James 1:1)

Preaching of The Cross as historical ( Acts 2:23,36; Acts 3:14-15; Acts 5:30)

Gospel to be believed = Christ's Name ( Matthew 16:16; John 20:31; 1 John 5:13)

Salvation by faith and water baptism ( Mark 1-4; Mark 16:16; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 2:38)

Justification without works is dead ( James 2:17; James 2:20; James 2:24; James 2:26)

Repentance emphasized along with faith ( Mark 1:15; Luke 3:8-14; Acts 3:19)

Reconciliation not mentioned.

Covers Matthew - Acts 8, then Tribulation ( Acts 3:19-21; Acts 8:12; Matthew 24:14)

Under The Law ( Matthew 5:17; Matthew 8:4; Matthew 23:2-3)

Good works will follow salvation ( Matthew 7:15-20; 1 John 2:3-5; 1 John 2:29; 1 John 3:7,10)

Rightly Divided From ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

Gospel Of GRACE

to be continued...

Who are the whosoever in John 3:16. And who is the world in John 3:16?

How do you explain the Godhead?

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

To REFUSE this knowledge, is to reject the Son of God, and his provision.

We love you too! Brothers and sisters together forever in Jesus

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 1:18

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

1 John 4:9

In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

Brother Spencer,

Thanks. The only righteousness God sees in us is His Son, Jesus Christ. We have no righteousness of our own. I think you and I both agree that a person who is born of God's Spirit can no longer live a lifestyle of habitual sin because the Spirit of Christ in them keeps that from happening. The person who claims to be a Christian, and yet goes out and lives a life of habitual sin without the Lord dealing with them, that person probably does not belong to Christ.

1 John 3:6 says that whoever abides in Him, that is, in the Lord, does not sin. The word abides is a Present Participle, meaning continuously abiding. Whoever has Him abiding, is, Present Tense, not sinning, continuously as a habit of life. It's not talking about committing an act of sin. It's talking about committing sin continuously, a lifestyle of not surrendering to Christ.

Whoever is continuously remaining in Him, does not practice sin, ever! That means we can never go back and live the old lifestyle we lived before we received Christ. It's impossible. In contrast: Whoever is continuously sinning has not seen Him, neither have they known Him. That's a pretty bold statement to make!

As far as division, did you know that the bible teaches that division is necessary? Preaching is for the unsaved, and teaching is for the saved. But there are two divisions that take place. When somebody receives Christ, they are now separated from the unbelievers. There's a division that has taken place. But Paul says in 1 Corinthians 11:19 that there must be heresies in the church. Why? It's so that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

God's word brings division. Look at Jesus. He performs a miracle and twenty-thousand people follow Him. So He turns around and gives one sermon, and everybody leaves but 12 people.

I think that if Jesus was the pastor of a local church and He did that, He would lose His job! "We didn't hire you to teach the truth and have people leave!"

Rick, does that mean I don't have to be baptized? I'm asking because there are a lot of scriptures in the Bible pertaining to Baptism. Matt. 3:13-16; 20:22-23, Mark 1:5-9; 10:39; 16:16, Luke 3:21; 7:30, John 3:22-23; 4:1-2, Acts 2:38-41; 8:16; 8:36-38, 9:18; 10:48; 16:15,33; 18:8; 19:1-5; 22:16, Romans: 6:3; 1Cor. 1:13-16, Gal. 3:27. I honestly would like to know. I don't want to do something just because everyone else does. Thanks In Christ.

Martha This is a P.S. in the Gospels the disciples ask Jesus Christ how often to forgive he said until 70 Times 7 also in luke 15:11-32 is called the prodigal son, I like the forgiving father, God knows we all make mistakes its called sin.

A big thing to keep in mind learn from the error and change, that's why we have a saviour, your not alone nobody except Jesus Christ walked by the Spirit perfectly, also 1 John 3: 19-21 verse 20 For if our heart condemn us God is greater than our hearts and knows all things. Beloved if our heart condemn us not than we have confidence toward God.

Condemnation is a trick of the adversary if you know in your heart and actions you are doing the best you can according to His word don't beat yourself up. In His Service

D W L: John 3:17 God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.-- Notice it didn't say that God sent God, I can't believe God is trying to fool us.

Correct, It does say God "Is The Father, sending HIS SON." However, we Cannot Make a Correct Conclusion on ONLY one verse, When God Teaches "ALL of Scripture Is PROFITABLE for doctrine" ( 2 Timothy 3:16), Correct? Thus, we Also Check This Evidence:

Heb 1:4 Being MADE SO MUCH BETTER than the angels, as HE hath by inheritance obtained a MORE EXCELLENT NAME than they.

Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said He at any time, THOU ARE MY SON, this day have I begotten THEE? And again, I will be to HIM A Father, and HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON?

Heb 1:6 And again, when He Bringeth in The Firstbegotten into the world, He Saith, And let ALL the angels of God WORSHIP HIM.

Heb 1:7 And of the angels He Saith, Who maketh His angels spirits, and His ministers a flame of fire.

Heb 1:8 But Unto THE SON He Saith, THY Throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. = Notice IT DOES SAY:

"GOD, The SON!" AND "ALL the angels of God WORSHIP HIM!!" = Plain And CLEAR!!

Conclusion: No, God is not trying to "fool us" WHEN we "study ALL Scripture!" Amen?

Praise HIM Now And ForEverMore! Amen?

Much More Important Evidence Found In this Discussion: Link

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified!

The Father, and Son Jesus, and the spirit of God (Holy Ghost)

John 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.-- Notice it didn't say that God sent God, I can't believe God is trying to fool us.

Isaiah 35:8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.

Aren't we glad that we have this good simple gospel that even a fool shall not err therein.

Brother Clayton,

Jesus speaks this scripture below that is very easy to understand.

John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Matthew 18:3

"And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."

It is not necessary to become bible scholars to understand bible scripture. But, we must become children, be born again of water and the Spirit - and believe!

God Bless.

Thank you Sacha. I'm familiar with that account in Numbers 21:5-9 & 2 Kings 18:1-4. I see that you understand this account of the brazen serpent as becoming an idol to the children of Israel, which was subsequently destroyed by King Hezekiah. And you are correct, in part.

However, when Jesus referred to this brazen serpent in John 3:11-15, He spoke of the reason why the brazen serpent on the pole was constructed in the first place (i.e. in Numbers 21) & that it was for the same reason that He was referring to it now (i.e. in John's Gospel). And the reason was that, as the Israelites were condemned to death for their complaining & unbelief, so too are each one of us condemned to death for our unbelief & rejection of God. The only way the Israelites could find 'life' was to gaze upon that serpent on the pole (i.e. they needed to express faith in God & not murmur against Him in unbelief). And the only way for the unbeliever, post-Cross, to find 'life' is to gaze upon Jesus on the Cross.

These accounts are given to show that faith & belief in what God has provided are needed to gain 'life' & not death. It was not meant to show the wrong worship of an idol (which is of course why Hezekiah ultimately destroyed it). Jesus can be worshipped whether He is on the Cross (as we come in repentance & faith), or in Heaven (seated at the Father's right Hand) in full equality with the Father but now as reigning as the Word made flesh & in resurrection glory. So the point of Jesus' message was: 'as the serpent was raised up & those who looked upon it in faith, survived, so also Jesus was raised on the Cross for the faithless ones to look upon Him & live. At least that is my understanding of His Message.

George,

I agree. The church is made up of every believer who has been born of God's Spirit, both Jew and Gentile alike. The church is the body of Christ. And yes, Jesus Christ is the bridegroom, I agree. I am reading over the verses in John's gospel that you listed ( John 3:26-30), and what I take away from this section after getting to verse 29, John is basically saying "I'm just the friend. I bring the bride and bridegroom together, the bride being the church, and the bridegroom being Christ.

Jesse The Church of God in the Church epistles is the body of Christ which started day of pentecost in Ephesians 3:4-6 verse 6 That the Gentiles should be Fellow heirs of the same body. In the 4 Gospels all the context of when the bridegroom is mentioned the context is the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

In the Gospel of John 3:26-30 in that context Jesus Christ is called by John the Baptist the bride groom Israel that rejected him was the bride. That's my understanding.

John 3:16 for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have ETERNAL LIFE

Trinity is not in the Bible. The Bible says Godhead.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

To REFUSE this knowledge, is to reject the Son of God, and his provision.

PS. I have these scriptures noted on the inside cover of my Bible.