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Nick,

" I may possibly be condemning my wife when my heart desires to preach conviction of sin instead. "

I was saved before my wife, I see your dilemma. Preach has a connotation that doesn't imply example. I recently heard the saying, "people don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." When you both are before God's word, avoid your commentary and allow God's word to be the focus of her attention. In God's good time he does the saving, not you and your preaching. In this case I believe "actions speak louder than words." Loving your wife is a commitment not based on feeling. Meet her needs which are your responsibility and trust God to be at work on her needs that are his. I will be praying for you both.

"How may I discuss the what I'm understanding in the bible" As unsaved, she isn't the person to discuss those matters with, but ask God to provide that person or means to help you reflect on what you see in scripture, such as this site.

My wife was saved sometime after reading a gospel tract I had left with her. She was alone and holding our just delivered firstborn son in her hospital bed. God brought to her mind John 3:16 and then she thoroughly understood it's meaning. She immediatly called me to say she was saved, and that was perhaps three/four years after me getting saved. I worked at that hospital and was saved during work hours while on the rooftop, no more than forty feet from where her bed was. I was also born in that hospital, so I was born and born again there.

Having saved you, God will never leave or forsake you. Grow in his graciousness and thank him for his mercies.

What government was Paul talking about when he said to obey them? Romans 13:1-7 The USA is a capitalist nation first and a liberal or conservative somewhere down stream. Which do you prefer, the groups mentioned or the Trump supporters? I see them as being pretty much equal. I don't see many people turning the other cheek, believing in honesty and ethics.

Why has this become part of this discussion? Remember what Jesus told Nicodemus

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

John 3:5-6 (KJV)

This might be a good time for prayer and guidance.

I believe that Jesus, who was God's Word made Man to minister to His people, to suffer & die for them, rose up in that same Body. However, to enter Heaven, a body has to be transformed (or, we could say, outfitted for Heaven) as "flesh & blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God" 1 Corinthians 15:50. Whether it's the Lord Jesus or even ourselves, we cannot reside in Heaven, in God's Presence, in our present bodily state: we have to be changed.

And Paul also says, "And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly." ( 1 Corinthians 15:49). As we are presently flesh & blood fitted for earthly life, so the day will come when we shall be fitted out for heavenly life.

John also says something similar: "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." (1 John 3:2). Some understand that this verse tells us that not only we will be like Him in His Character & Perfection, but also in our glorified bodies.

Alec, neither of those Scriptures you've given apply to your situation. Hebrews 10:2, speaks about the Jews who had to yearly offer sacrifices to obey God's Commands & to avert His Anger upon them. The sacrifices could never remove sin or their guilty consciences & that is why they had to be offered each year. Philippians 4:7, is an encouragement for those given to worry & anxiousness. Paul suggests that they commit their problems to the Lord in prayer with praise to the One Who will deal with their matters.

You've indicated that you're feeling guilty over past sins. And for some reason, unlike the first time, you now can't rid yourself of this dilemma you're in. Usually, in such situations, folk have truly called upon the Lord for salvation or restoration, but haven't let go of their sins, their past life, or the pain they have inflicted upon others. When we come to the Lord for spiritual healing, we do so entirely based on faith in His Word, in His Power to be able to do this, & Promise that it will be "thy faith hath made thee whole". If we're dwelling on past sins, & lets face it, the memory will always be there but should not burden us anymore or bring on guilt, then we really haven't put those sins upon Jesus to bear them & forgive us - rather, inwardly we believe that Jesus has failed to hear our cry, we are not forgiven & we have to continue to live with the mental & spiritual uncertainty & torment.

Take stock of what took place when you came to the Lord. Did you earnestly seek His forgiveness for your many sins? Did you sense in your heart that He had done so according to His Word ( John 3:14-18)? That He will no longer resurrect those forgiven sins & accuse you of them ( Hebrews 10:14-17). Why should we then allow those past sins come back to haunt us? Leave it at the Cross - tell Satan who is taunting you with this, that you're a child of God, covered in Christ's Blood ( James 4:7), that you ARE forgiven. Spend much time in God's Word & pray for healing.

Marilyn Taplin, You err greatly.

"However, there must have been something he needed to repent of."

Jesus never sinned.

"Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth" 1 Peter 2:22

"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin" 2 Corinthians 5:21

"And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin." 1 John 3:5

Peter said he didn't, Paul said he didn't and John said he didn't, but you "suppose" he did. In your fifty years of Bible study, have you seen any verse that, states in context, that he sinned?

The "why" has no connection to baptism, as Rod explained to you.

Barbara, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding. The traditions of man has distorted the true gospel. The traditions of man teaches heaven is a natural place with natural streets, natural buildings, natural walls and we exist much like we exist now; but the word of God teaches heaven is a person in a glorified body with no need for streets or houses or any thing existing in a natural state.

John 3:13 No man has ascended up to heaven, but he (Christ in the same glorified body he existed in as Jehovah in the old testament) that came down from heaven (and became flesh), even the Son of man which is in heaven (now back in the glorified body he had before).

Let's try to comprehend what is depicted as (spiritual) heaven (where the Spirit dwells).

1 Corinthians 3:17 Know ye not that ye are the TEMPLE OF GOD, and the SPIRIT OF GOD dwelleth in you.

Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the Lord (the Father), The heaven is my throne, and the earth (dust, flesh) is my footstool: where is the house that ye (Christ) build unto me? and where is the place of my (SPIRIT) rest?

Psalm 127:1 Except the Lord (Christ) build the house, they labour in vain .....

Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a Son over his own house, whose house we are....

Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I overcame and am sit down with my Father in his throne.

John 17:21 That they ALL MAY BE ONE as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that THEY also may be ONE in us.....

1 Timothy 6:16 Who (CHRIST) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto....

1 Corinthians 15:52-54 In a Moment....Death is swallowed up in victory.

Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men (we are dead in our trespasses) shall Live, TOGETHER WITH MY (CHRIST) DEAD BODY SHALL THEY ARISE....

Revelation 20:5 .....This is the FIRST RESURRECTION.

Luke 20:34-36 .....Being the CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.

John 14:2 In my Fathers house are many mansions...

You may read & consider the following Scriptures. But I should say, that when I think of a Christian as being permanently saved & can never lose his/her salvation, I think of a person who has come to Christ on God's Directions & Terms & has God's indwelling Spirit in them; as opposed to those who have not, & just 'grace' a Church building with their presence or may lead hypocritical lives, or for many other reasons. So, these Scriptures apply to a true believer, purchased by God through His Son, clearly showing that God never discards His children.

John 10:27-30; John 3:3,16,36; John 5:24; John 6:37,39; 1 John 5:13; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Ephesians 1:13,14; Philippians 1:6; Romans 8:29,30,38,39.

Hi Mona, I agree Psalms 91 is a beautiful Psalms, I just don't see in it where we shouldn't worry about our kids behavior, Now as kids I believe they are covered by the blood of Christ as were we, but they will grow up some day. How do we celebrate their salvation Now when they haven't reached the age of accountability yet, someday they will have to make the same decision you and I made, then I say celebrate. Yes I worry about this younger generation especially in these times of rising apostasy. Again Psalms 91 is great like many other verses to only those who believe. It's like John 3:18 following another great verse John 3:16. ( He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.)

The worlds referred to in Heb 1:2 means [ahee-ohn; a particular age or period or interval] so it may not mean other worlds besides our world since Adam and Eve, but having said that, Luke 15:4 speaks of a man having a hundred sheep and losing one, leaving the 99 to look for the one. This means what we all know it to mean; that Jesus will do anything to save all his children, this could also mean that God made other worlds/dispensations before Adam and Eve and we are the 1 lost sheep that needs saving. I haven't done much research into it but knowing God-with Him all things are possible, so its entirely conceivable.

Revelation 9 speaks of Abaddon which comes out of the bottomless pit. This Abaddon lived before Adam and ruled a prehistoric world made up of hybrid beasts. The locusts are a combination of man and beast. The creatures that sinned in the prehistoric age were banished to the bottomless pit.

Lucifer fell by looking on the sin of these prehistoric creatures. Apparently lucifer was tasked to cover the sin of these prehistoric creatures with his wings but he disobeyed God and looked and was filled with pride.

There's also mention in Is 34:14 which speaks of hybrid beasts like the Satyr which means [he-goat, faun, devil, hairy, kid, rough]

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. (verse 7 Jesus said)- Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye MUST be born again.

Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.(Not because he is a Jew)

Galations 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham BELIEVED God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

FAITH IS NOT WHO YOU ARE BLACK, WHITE, NATIONALITY HAS NO EFFECT ON BEING A HEIR WITH CHRIST BUT BY GRACE WE ARE SAVED BY/THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST

The 'worlds' are the 'worlds of the Universe', i.e. the planets, stars, asteroids, etc. And Jesus was involved in their creation (also see Colossians 1:15-17).

Hebrews 1:2

What other worlds did God create?

Dianne,

The honor and respect deserved, is conditional upon those leaders meeting the qualifications of "For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil." Too many leaders, regardless of whether in the church or government, embrace evil. And while the office they hold by the power of men deserves respect, all respect deserved and power over believers is dependent on what their character shows us. God defines for us those he has empowered to rule our affairs. Believers are not to yield to evil, but instead, resist even unto death of the body.

Chris, " What sort of Pastor must he be as described in verse 4?" I believe the position could be either a believer or an unbeliever, in the latter case, a hireling. "The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will." Proverbs 21:1

So you understand Romans 13:1-7 to apply to the authority within the Church? It would be interesting to read other views on this. I've re-read the passage now & just can't fit our Church leaders into that narrative. What sort of Pastor must he be as described in verse 4?

please pray Kristie , pray she has the Lord gives her the strength and courage to do what she must do

in Romans 13 we give honor and respect to those in authority in the church I.E. Apostles Prophets Evangelists Pastors and Teacher. In timothy we pray for leaders of our country or community big difference

Thank you for your reply Dianne. I was thinking that was the verse you were pertaining to. As Isaiah 40:22 and Job 26:10 use the same Hebrew word spoken "chuwg". Interesting it has two different Strongs numbers although the same exact word. Meaning to encircle or circle.

As I really don't want to get into this much as I know my brothers and sisters on here may not agree with me and I do not wish to raise quarrel. Although I will just state this. In Isaiah 22:18 he states "ball". The Hebrew word pronounced "duwr". Meaning ball/circle. Which I would think would pertain more to a sphere shape than "chuwg". Isaiah knew the difference between a circle and a ball and so did the writers of the KJV Bible.

Again, as I could go on I will not because the shape of the earth is not the important thing. Jesus Christ our Lord is. Even though it may help people turn toward God I do not want to make division here between my brothers and sisters in Christ.

God Bless.

One of the main Scriptures on inter-racial marriages is in Deuteronomy chapter 7, where Israel was forbidden to take wives from the heathen nations around them. And this was primarily because Israel was "a holy people unto the Lord" & such a union would guarantee that Israel's heart would be turned from following the true God. A particularly nasty example was seen in King Solomon in 1 Kings 11:1-13, where a once wise King erred greatly in this matter & displayed much foolishness.

Otherwise, the Bible says or infers nothing about inter-racial marriages for Christians, except that we should have such a close union (whether in marriage or business) only with other believers: 1 Corinthians 7:39; 2 Corinthians 6:14-18.

On the 'flat Earth', I have no further comment than already given in the past, on such a proposition.

Richard Isaiah 40:22, job 26:10 the Hebrew word compassed meaning circle,

Hello Dianne,

Where does the Bible call the earth a sphere? Thank you.

Hi Latrina, You have all the inspired scriptures in these 66 books of the Bible, It Was by God spirit when they wrote them, and just like the devil was in the garden waiting to deceive there has been men "servants of satan" trying to contaminate scripture ever since man learned to write, God has Intervened in the garden and he intervened in this also, so it was his inspiration when they wrote the scripture and it was his inspiration when they gathered them. God didn't speak the world in existence in six days which he promised to judge by his word and fail to communicate with them and let some third grader slip in and shuffle a few words and derail God's plans. Every word he intended for us to have is integrated in one msg, if you removed john 3:16 that msg is still clear when you take in the whole council of the living word, And if you had what you "think" you're missing or what you "think" is added you can't understand it or wouldn't no it without the Holy Spirit. Thanks hope that helps

Cody the bible calls the earth a sphere and according to Gods Word there is nothing wrong with interracial marriages.

To Fred Scanlan

Consider yourself truly blessed brother, God has a calling for you, I suggest that you find out - extremely important. What happened to me something different, but similar in some sense. I was successful in my marriage, family, career and financially. But when I retired in 2008 to enjoy it all with my wife, everything went wrong - my wife of 38 years was diagnosed with terminal cancer, went through surgery, chemotherapy, so I became a full time caregiver, neglected my real estate investment and stocks, financial crisis took a toll, lost quite a bit, 09/09/09 lost my wife, a very painful experience. One day I was reading my Bible, God open my eyes - I built my house in the sand, not on the Rock. So I ask God questions on what to do - I said God you gave me the wrong tools (degrees, real estate broker, others) training by men which focus on making $$$ manna, God revealed things via dreams - I can't serve/love God and manna $$$ at the same time. So give me the right tools and train me.

God heard and answered my questions, now God's will "Master Plan" is what I have, @ 78 years old December 2, 2020 I became sick - COVID-19 was in the hospital 6 days, God saved me, it took a month to fully recover, soon 79 on 2/11 - God has blessed me with so much, that I am able to help small business owners solve their COVID-19 problems - and I don't charge for my services, I leave everything to God, get paid as a byproduct of what I do, God freed me from the snares of manna.

Fred, yours is waiting, pursue it brother.

Please pray for my 2 sisters salvation!!!

Father-God, theirs an assistant Manager, at Family Dollar, Named (Marla), she has been Back Stabbing Employees, to the manager, who work their, she doesnt like them, they get Fired or they quit?? This Has been going for some time, that management becomes aware, what she has been doing, that word comes from management, she get fired or tranfered to another store, demoted, to a regular Employee or she can quit. If she Quits, that no retail store in town will, hire at all. She be black listed from being Hired, she learns her lesson from back Stabbing employees, at work, she repent, get Right, with You, Father-God , seek forgiveness from the peoples she has .hurt,?? Seek their forgiveness, employees she has WRONG???

Hi Lou, I grew up protestant so I'm not too familiar with RC tradition of communion or if there is a difference, but for me as I'm walking up for communion (pre covid) I look at the cross and say a little prayer of thanks to Jesus and for his sacrifice on the cross for my salvation. The actual act of going up and accepting the bread and wine in communion, is merely a public acknowledgement that you believe (faith) in the salvation of the cross and all that it stands for. As in Luke chapter 22 Jesus states that as you eat the bread or drink the wine that you do this in remembrance of Him. I also think that you answered your own question in that by grace through faith and prayer, we do seek forgiveness with God the Father through Christ Jesus. Throughout the NT some of Jesus and his apostles main teachings are faith (believe), forgiveness, mercy, compassion and so on. I hope this helps.

Hebrews chapter 11 Paul explains faith, John 3:16,

Luke 22:19 "And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me." Luke 22:20 "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you." Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:" Ephesians 2:9 "Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:18 "For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father." Galatians 3:26 "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus."

Are we talking physically or spiritually ?

Physically Cain came from Adam and Eve. Spiritually I John 3:12 Not as Cain who was of that wicked one...

Jesus said to the Scribes and Pharisees ye are of your father the devil ... From a scriptural standpoint if you are not born of God spiritually your father is the devil or Satan. When a person becomes born again he is born into God's family and God is his Father.

I have a memory problem to the point that I can't remember or retain passages of the Bible anymore and the ones that I use to know have been locked away in my lack of memory! I desperately crave the word of God and my prayers to be heard! Please make my prayers be heard so help me God !!

When Paul was struck down on the road to Damascus, He received the powerful mercy of God. This has happened to me, all my sins were ever before me, literally making me fall down before Him! I could not resist Him. So overwhelming power! Now , I have been given, what an apostle would need or ask for! What lies ahead I do not know, as always, waiting on Him!

Fred I'm totally convinced that when someone believes Romans 10:9+10 they get delivered.