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Hello Everyone,
I just have a question about the Standard KJV being used here. I learned and memorized passage from the old KJV version (not the 1611 version), where it states in John 3:27 "A man receiveth nothing except it be given from on High." Now I am not quoting letter for letter of course, but noticed of all KJVs I am reading online at the moment, that verse is replaced with modern English text "A man receive nothing except it's given from heaven". I miss the 'receiveth' and 'on High' most especially in that verse. I am beginning to doubt, maybe I imagined the old text.
Any of you read same as me, or was it my imagination? Feels weird.

I think you're confusing our Christian walk with Salvation. like I said to Waunda: " Baptism, AFTER we are saved, is good, and if if you can be baptized then go ahead. But NOT to be saved.".So I'm not saying don't be Baptised. I'm saying you don't have to be baptized, to be saved. You said it was a requirement for Salvation. That's a problem. And on top of that, you said you have to earn it (Salvation) another problem. Because Salvation is the GIFT of God and that not of ourselves (See Ephesians 2:8-9). And let me emphasize John 3:36 again: He that believeth on the Son HATH everlasting life. Meaning the moment you believe you HAVE it. You don't earn it. That's works Salvation.

why does jeremiah ch 51 sounds like it is talking about America I read it twice and again it still says America . ask me truth

No Baptism is not a requirement to be saved. We are told again and again in the Bible that the man who trusts in Christ has everlasting life immediately.
John 3:36 says:
"He that believeth on the Son HATH everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." Same in John 5:24 and John 6:47. We are saved by grace well before we even touch the water.
And since grace means a free undeserved gift, any act or commitment intended to merit salvation is necessarily excluded ( Rom. 11:6). Understand all men are saved the same way, by believing on Jesus. That's why the thief on the cross could go to Heaven despite not being baptized.

Waunda, There are many verses throughout the Bible that say again and again that we are saved apart from works/acts of righteousness. This includes Baptism (water) which is an act of righteousness/work. Baptism, AFTER we are saved, is good, and if if you can be baptized then go ahead. But NOT to be saved. To be saved will always be "Whosoever Believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life" John 3:16. You have God's word that child-like Faith in Jesus's finished work alone is sufficient. It's all Grace, 0 works. "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God;" Eph. 2:8-9

Thank you Jesus for your Love , it has brought me much comfort during this difficult time on this earth. Are any online classed that I can attend, I would love to learn more about Jesus and his life and Love. Thank you for this online site.

In Hebrews we learn that God has given us "today". Previously man lived by seasons & times. Remember his will is for us to worship him. He gives us today to receive the gift of eternal life.To come for the fulfilment of abundant living. To enter into his discipleship & commandment of walking in his love. As in any generation, today is our hope and could be answer. He is seeking us always, are we going to submit to him as an individual, nation, or world!? Friend, nothing would please him more than to be your God & to lead us out. John 3:16🕊️

My friend, come now, let us reason together, saith the Lord. For God is not willing that any should perish, Matthew 18:11, John 3:16 Of his Son it is said the Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised," "To preach the acceptable year of the Lord." The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9; Luke 4:18

Repentance must be exercised toward God, because we have all sinned, broken his righteous law, violated the rule of his government, and brought discord into his harmony. We must exercise faith toward Jesus Christ because he has become our sacrifice and surety. He has died that we might have remission of sins that are past," and obtain grace and help so that we may keep the commandments of the Lord our God. 1 John 3:4; Matt 5:19

The commandments of God are comprehensive and far reaching; in a few words they unfold the whole duty of man. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength..Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Mark 12:30, 31. In these words the length and breadth, the depth and height, of the law of God is comprehended; for Paul declares, Love is the fulfilling of the law" Romans 13:10. The only definition we find in the Bible for sin is that "sin is the transgression of the law 1 John 3:4. The Word of God declares, "All have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23. There is none that doeth good, no, not one.

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.... NOTE: In 2020 the whole world /all mankind are scratching both their head and bottom side at the same time because where applicable, that mention above is either happening or about to happen. Nevertheless through John 3:16-21 we have verse 36 above.

1-43, JESUS stress how important it is to PRAY, PRAY, PRAY. Yes JESUS heal where applicable above also in 2020, BUT note how JESUS mind stay on HIS primary duty which is to provide SALVATION for us. JESUS know John 3:16-21 very well.

Baptism is a "Requirement" for salvation. If that were not true, why did Jesus get baptized? Luke 3:21-22. Several scriptures that mention baptism and the need for it. John 3:5; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 2:41; This is just a few, but the baptism is a representation of Jesus dying on the cross for our sins, which were buried with him in the grave, but he rose again and left our sins in the grave. Thus when we are baptized we are to become new creatures in Christ and the sinful person is dead 2 Corinthians 5:17...You cannot enter into the Kingdom of heaven as you currently are. We are born of a sinful nature, and unless we bury that in the blood of Christ, we will not enter heaven.

Thank you for your response, What I'm talking about are changes being made to the KJV Bible. In this instance, it used to say Brother. Yes I get the figure of speech of course. There are numerous changes. Take John 3:16 for one: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him (should not) perish, but have everlasting life. It originally said: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him "shall not" perish, but have everlasting life." Should and Shall are two different meanings. There are others but probably should be talked about on the right thread according to the right book.

the bible tells us the wicked will be destroyed ...not tormented forever ... John 3:16 .....shall not perish ...not be tormented forever ...your thoughts on this? ....

As it relates to marriage, 1-12 above JESUS give good clarity about what JEHOVAH /GOD has written in stone, nevertheless in 2020 mankind still put away unlawfully. Thank GOD for JESUS thereby forgiveness of this sin through JESUS can be obtain. 13-31 again JESUS mind is on SALVATION for us, 33-34 JESUS mind is on the work HE must finish, thereby finishing or establishing THE WAY for us that leads to ETERNAL LIFE /SALVATION, see John 3:16-21.

43-48 JESUS mind remains on SALVATION for them and us. Example, JESUS warns them and us of consequences from 3 pleasurable sins that gladly walk us into hell if we allow them to. But JESUS walks us into SALVATION, see John 3:16-21, thereby EMPOWER us as in verse 50 above, especially with PEACE from GOD.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Matthew 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Barbara, there is severe punishment ( Hell Fire) if the person does turn from their evil ways, and turn to the living God and ask for forgiveness for their sins that they have committed, God is merciful and will forgive that person if they will turn to the Almighty God and repent of their evil ways.
Please read the following KJV bible scriptures: Romans 1:26-27 - 1 Timothy 1:10 - 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 - Galatians 3:28 - Galatians 3:26-29 - 1 Corinthians 6:9 - Leviticus 18:22 - John 3:16 -
Romans 13:14 - Galatians 5:22-23.

The Bible is a book inspired by God. In the new testament, we learn through the scriptures how we are to be saved. We learn that we are to accept Jesus as the son of God, through his baptism by John the Baptist. For right after his baptism ( Matthew 3:17) A voice came from heaven saying "this is My beloved Son. In whom I am well pleased." Amen. Now, in ( John 3:3) We learn that in order for us to enter into the kingdom of God we are to be born again, just as Nicodemus was told by Jesus. We are to be born of water and the spirit, which directs us to be baptized. We will become new creatures, all things are new again, and through our faith in receiving the holy spirit we are to be saved. Amen.

Dear Lisa,

The KJV hasn't changed. The word 'should' has remained more than 400 years since it's first printing. Here's proof: Link It's possible you didn't have a real KJV back when you memorized this verse. Well-meaning people including pastors may easily misquote verses like this thinking they are quoting verbatim, then assuming it is KJV. NASB uses the word 'shall', for example.

When I was young, John 3:16 read: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him Shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
Now it reads that whosoever believeth in Him Should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The NIV version reads Shall not Perish. Should Not and Shall not have two different meanings. Has anyone else noticed this?

Praying for you, its not a certain religion or church that saves you, its you excepting and believing with all your heart Jesus died on the cross rose in 3 days and is now in heaven at the right hand of God. As long as the church you choose preaches this, about heaven and hell, repentance and sin justice, the whole Bible not just the feel good stuff in the Bible. Always check what you are being taught to make sure you are not being misled. The changes in your life will take hard work your 1st step is John 3:16 then go from there you have to depend on the Holy Spirit because we can't do it on our own. Please join my group Jesus wants to give you ever lasting life on fb it can help

Hello, what is your take on blasphemy of the holy spirit? Luke 12:10, 1 John 3:6. Since Jesus warned his followers (Christians) to not blasphemy, and since Jesus said it's unforgivable, how do you reconcile this with the belief that a Christian can't lose salvation?

What does John 3:16 mean???

wayne..we all have some sort of sin in our lives..sin doesnt send people to Hell..not accepting the Atonement of what Jesus did is what sends people to Hell..wants we accept Jesus as our Savior then we can apply 1 john 3:9

Jesus was called the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God John 3:16
Adam was a Son of God since God was his Father Luke 3:38
Angels are called Sons of God in Job 38 since God was their Father. Job 38
If you had a human mother and father you would be called a son of man.
Jesus had the characteristics of Both God and mankind. 1 Timothy 3:16

28 above JESUS mind is on SALVATION for me and you, because JESUS clearly let us know there is forgiveness of All sin,see John 3:16-21 and other verses also,. Also in the same breath JESUS warn us of the sin of blaspheme which is crossing the line of no-return, meaning we boldly straight jacket oneself so deeply into sins until.... see the Revelation chapter 17 and 18, also see Revelation 20:21.

26-28....and as they were eating, JESUS took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, take, eat; this is my body. And he took the cup and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, drink ye all of it, for this is MY BLOOD of the NEW TESTAMENT, which is shed for many for the remission of sins..... verse 26-28, notice JESUS MIND is on me and you because in these verses HE clearly assures us JESUS is putting /putted in place a WAY. Yes, a WAY thereby you and I can obtain remission /forgiveness of sins BY /THROUGH HIS BLOOD unto SALVATION. So thank GOD for SALVATION through JESUS. John 3:16-21.

Where the above relates to SALVATION through JESUS I say WOW! WOW! WOW! because I understand from the above, JESUS return could have have been yesterday, but JESUS did not return yesterday so I pinch myself to remember oh, oh, JESUS is merciful, long-suffering,... ensuring all who will enter in SALVATION enter in before JESUS return as stated above. Thank GOD for JOHN 3:16-21.