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Nabeel's John Chapter 3 comment about verse 16 on 7/09/2013, 1:55pm...

John (3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son.
Can anyone explain to me the meaning of "Begotten"
Good question. Why don't YOU search the scriptures and do a WORD study---and see for yourself--first hand.

how about the people who lived before the time of Jesus? will they not be saved? jesus is said to be son of man too. the "son" here i suppose is one who is pious, very near the Creator, being loved by GOD and not as biological son. David, Israel etc were also begotten sons of GOD, even us are all children of GOD.

The bible says you must be water baptized, also baptized by the holy spirit. The only way to enter the gate of heaven.

Man in depravity needs this scripture of hope. How does one explain the descent of man to the abyss of corruption and craze of the mind,so much that same *** lust after each other. Man needs the saviour, Jesus is the saviour

Jn 3:16 is the cardinal verse of the whole Bible. The reason of our coexistence and the birth of true developments on earth planeth.Jisos owu oniro.Jesus thank you

The greatest gift is Jesus Christ. God loves me so much that He allowed His only son to die for my sins.If not Jesus Christ my life could have been like human waste. Please join me appreciate Him for makinjg my life better

John (3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son.
Can anyone explain to me the meaning of "Begotten"

It's amazing there so many different "beliefs" systems in the Christian community, especially when Jesus taught only one "specific" gospel to his disciples. Jesus then told his disciples to go and teach THAT SPECIFIC GOSPEL to the world. In one corner we have people who seek salvation by "only believing" on or in Jesus Christ. In the other corner we have those are accused of being "legalistic" in their approach to obtain salvation. Question- where do we find the VERY FIRST instructions as to obtaining salvation??
Was in it St John, or Romans, maybe Ephesians? No, it was in Acts. In Acts , Peter gave specific instructions how to obtain salvation. Christians today would probably call Peter a "legalist" because he told the men to "do" a "work". Peter told them to repent, and BE BAPTIZED for the remission of their sins. IF baptism is actually a work of man, then Peter had no right to instruct those men to be baptized. Question--was Peter actually a "legalist"? Is baptism a "self righteous work" of man, or is it REALLY for the REMMISION of sins??. Should Peter instructed those men to ONLY BELIEVE on Jesus? Naturally everyone has their "own belief system". BUT does their belief system acre with the Bible.??

There are two types of people those who are physically alive and have the Holy Spirit and those who are physically alive but do not have the Spirit, they are spiritually dead. Remember Jesus said to a disciple who wanted to first bury his father and Jesus said let the dead bury the dead Matt 8:22.The spiritually dead do not have the Holy Spirit,without the Spirit one cannot enter the Kingdom of God it is the key to the Kingdom John 3:3-5.Our day of death is better than our day of birth that is because those who die a physcial death and have the Spirit do not die spiritually as their Holy Spirit (the essence of who they are) returns to God the Father when they die Eccl 12:7. Hebrews 12:23 is refering to those people (Saints).

God did save me from perishing. I am a alcoholic, not drinking but I am allergic to it. God saved me out of the depths of alcohol. I tried to commit suicide two times and I woke up in a hospital 2 times, it was divine intervention that saved me both times. After the 2nd attempt I quit cold turkey, without much discomfort. God saved a wretch like me because He so loved the world.

I agree that GOD has sent HIS Son for a purpose.Purpose being that we all should believe in HIM,it is stated clearly where it says "that whosoever BELIEVETH IN HIM." should not perish. it is HIS will for us all to believe in HIM and have everlasting life. It clarify's it in verse 36, where again it say's "He that Believeth on the SON shall have everlasting life." But does it mean if I hear about HIM and attend church on Sundays and go to Bible studies and do all the goody two shoe stuff to look holy n all, does that means I am exempt from being perish? Hello, I hope you don't think that just because you look Holy, act Holy and go Church mean that's all it is to be exempt from GODs wrath, cause Baby it's not. Who ever is saying it is lying to you, straight up. This verse say's you NEED to Believe in HIM not, do all the rituals. But to Believe in HIM. "to put your FAITH, your Hopes, Your Life in HIS Hands and TRUST that HE (who you cannot see) will HELP you through everything and anything. Read and Believe also in Proverbs 3:5-7. That is what Believing in JESUS is all about. Give your life to HIM and Let HIM lead you. That Was GOD's purpose for sending HIS only SON.

this quotes tells us that god loves us more than 1000x...our expectation

We must be careful and let the Bible interpet itself Paul stated that the law is the knowlegde of sin Rom 3:20 and also in verse 31 he said establish the law. the bibles difinition for sin according to 1John 3:4 is that sin is the transgession of the law Yahsuah came to redeem humankind back to the Father Yahsuah himself said to gain enternal life you must keep the commandments Matt 19:16-17 understand we are saved by grace and not by works read the text this whole subject matter is regarding cir***cision the works of the law that Paul is refering to his the acts of the cutting of the foreflesh which was a ordinance that was nailed to the tree so that the gentiles could become fellow citizen concerning the promises of Abraham this text has nothing to do with abolishing the law the Messiah came to fufill the law not to destroy the law or the prophets Matt 5:17 his blood fufilled the works of the law as far as blood of animals and he fufilled any works of the law as for as sacrifices were concerned and now the holy spirit helps us to obey Gods laws the blood covers ours past sins Rom 3:25 you are not under the penlenty of the law if you are not breaking it remember the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Yahsuah our sacrifice Rom 6:23

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this verse is so surreal for the world today im glad that I made a decision to want to get to know the lord for myself and my ablility to want to live for him like is is doing for us the world

only Jesus can atone for our sins. He is the Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world. God made Him who knew no sin to become sin so that we might become His righteousness. Believe in Jesus to be saved., to be holy, and to be righteous

It means to me that God loves us no matter what . He sent his son Jesus to die on the cross for our sins. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth on him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

Grace does not give you a license to sin according to 1 John 3:4 Sin is the transgession of Gods Law the blood of Christ forgives you of your past sins Romans 3:24 and allows you yo be reconciled back to God youre saved by grace because you did nothing to earn this however dont take advantage of Gods grace by disobying his law.

On John 3:16 _ It is clear that the love of God is for the whole world, everybody, not only for Christians. God is waiting for all to come to Him in faith through his son, Lord Jesus, to fully experience this wonderful love. If we think back, we will understand that even before we decided to follow Christ, we have been experiencing divine love in various ways: protection, provision, good health, spectacular deliverance from evil, etc. I believe it is for the good of Humanity to believe and be saved, then we will begin to live the life that God really wants us to enjoy. We shall have testimonies to tell of God's mercy, love and leading.

In reading 1John 3:9 we need to define "sin".
Sin is NOT referring to our physical failings.
Instead, it's transgression of the law, 1John 3:4.

But we're NOT under the law, Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 5:18. Hence believers CANNOT be charged with this sin.

Sin is unrighteousness, 1John 5:17.
But a believer's faith is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5. Hence we CANNOT be charged with this sin.

Sin is unbelief in Jesus, John 16:9.
Believers CANNOT be charged with this sin.

So, as believers, we CANNOT sin.

When a government official places a CONDEMNED sign on a building it means that the building is not fit for human habitation and is to be torn down. However, God is "not willing that any should perish..." - His desire is that we be saved and that our
body (building) become a "new creation" (restored) and that
we become a "temple of the Holy Spirit"...therefore, the Apostle Paul may declare "There is now therefore no Condemnation for
those who are in Christ Jesus..."

I believe people misunderstand this verse, enough that a sect was established with it's own morality and political persuasion. Flesh is flesh and spirit is spirit. Without the flesh there is no Salvation. How can you show God your Heart and desire for Him, or can you perform righteous deeds from the grave. Water is a symbol of nourishment in the Bible from The river through Eden, the water in the rock, the wells of Jacob, the waterpots of wine. The flesh is born and nourished from the womb of a Woman. Jesus himself was born of woman but he lived be the Holy Spirit, the spirit of God. One who is devoid of the spirit is lifeless though his heart keeps him alive biologically. To be born of the spirit is to discriminate between the human heart and the holy spirit, our free will and the will of the Father. Rightly divide, understand that Jesus demonstrated that the life of the body and the holy spirit are distinct. The ritual baptism is nothing. Baptism is a real change and not a ceremony. Jesus was full before he was baptized which is why John said that he should be baptized of Jesus. Flesh profits nothing. It flowers and is destroyed entirely. The resurrection, the life is from God, the holy spirit, and his son who lived it on earth.

John3:36 and believe.Lots of people put A LOT of EMPHASIS on the word believe, as though their belief was the absolute in obtaining salvation. The problem is they pay no attention to the information Jesus gave ole Nic in John 3:5. In fact they seem to totally ignore it and place ALL their value on John 3:16 and John 3:36.Amazing.!!!

@Moby Here are the ones who were baptized by John the Baptist;
Matthew 3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,
6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.
Matthew 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon hi

"Who exactly came and was baptized?"
This verse sits amidst reference to Jesus and his disciples, and they are intercommunicating (sendiing messages re their whereabouts).
Did John the Baptist baptize Jesus ("who came")?

i thank GOD for salvation why in verse 15 eternal life verse 16 everlasting life

Dan...these scriptures should answer your question.
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

This might be related to Ephesians 2:6 whereby we are "seated in the heavenly realm". Perhaps the indwelling of the Holy Spirit allows us to be "in heaven" in a sense when we walk in the Spirit. Well I hope this for all of us, myself certainly included! Wesley's interpretation is very good and I like all the comments above.

Love the lord with all your heart and he would care for you he already showed you by given his only son for our sin what man would do that only our father in heaven THANK YOU GOD.

In 2nd Corinthians 5:17 IT STATES THAT IF ANY MAN BE IN CHRIST JESUS HE IS A NEW CREATURE OLD THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY AND ALL THINGS ARE MADE NEW SO THEREFORE IF YOU ARE TRUELY REBORN AGAIN THEN YOU DO NOT DO THE SINFUL THINGS THAT YOU USED TO DO IN 1ST JOHN 3:9 IT SAYS THAT IF YOU HAVE TRULY REPENTED AND ARE BORN OF GOD YOU CAN NOT SIN BECAUSE HIS SEED(JESUS) REMAINTETH IN YOU AND YOU CAN NOT SIN BECAUSE YOU ARE BORN OF GOD AND PEOPLE WHO ARE BORN OF GOD WILL NOT CONTINUE TO LIE PERIOD.