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absolutley beautiful. i love the wording in this old book' have there ever been any copies of this particular old worded bible copied word for word for someone to buy and read ?

this makes the reade to really believe that the supreme being needs to have a son in the litral meaning it brings into quetion what god is I feel the supreme force that we term gode is Too big for us a part of his creation to comprehend BUT we were made only to worship him and only him, one needs to mahke a deep studfy of the Gospils as we have it today and how it came about some 400 years after christ YF.

Comments on Galatians 5:18 “But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law”.
We know from 1John 3:4 that “sin is the transgression of the law”. When Christ died, “he did away with the Law” (the Old Covenant), and we entered a New Covenant ( Jeremiah 31:31, Hebrews 8:8). Now we are under Grace ( Romans 6:14).
So, let me see if I understand this “process of salvation” correctly: (1) I hear the Word of God which tells me that He loves me ( John 3:16), and that He died for me though I broke no Law. (2) I accept that I am a sinner, even though the Law that would have condemned me does not exist anymore. (3) I receive Christ as my personal Savior, Who saved me from sins that actually don’t exist, since I was born after Christ died and made the Law obsolete and of non-effect. (4) I get baptized and receive the Holy Spirit, and I am no longer under the Law, which was nailed to the cross. (5) Having received the Holy Spirit, I am now under grace. I am free from the Law, and basically I can do anything I want, since there is no more Law to condemn me. (6) Yes, it would be nice to express the fruits of the spirit: love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance etc. (verses 22, 23); but these are optional, “because against such there is no law”.
Now, do the statements 1-6 make any sense? I know that many Christians think so. But, let’s see: Perhaps they would have made sense if only Apostle Paul hadn’t mentioned the works of the flesh: “Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like (and the list goes on): of the which … I have also told you in time past, that THEY WHICH DO SUCH THINGS SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD” (verses 19-21)… Hey, what happened to grace? We’ve already established that I can’t keep the Law because the flesh is against the spirit ( Galatians 5:17). Even Apostle Paul says: “For the good that I would, I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do” ( Romans 7:19). What’s going on here? The sins mentioned above are transgressions of the Moral Laws that have been “abolished, nailed to the cross, gone”. Now you tell me that I can’t inherit the Kingdom of God with all that love, sacrifice and grace? It seems to me that Apostle Paul is contradicting himself: or, is he? This chapter teaches that the Moral Laws were not included with the rest of the Mosaic Laws that ended at the cross, and that we still have to keep them. They were in effect when you and I were born, and are in effect today: we broke them, and this is why you and I are sinners in need of Christ’s forgiveness and redemption. But for sure, in this letter to Galatians Apostle Paul is talking about circumcision and other Ceremonial Laws fulfilled by Christ (verses 2, 3, 6, 11, 13). You just can’t have it both ways! Brother R.R. came up with a “good excuse”: I can’t memorize the Ten Commandments; therefore I don’t need to keep them. But Apostle Paul disagrees; he says: “I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me” ( Philippians 4:13). Amen.

@Peace,
There are many scriptures that speak of the Grace of God, but a couple of my favourites ones are:
- John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life”.
- Isaiah 53:4-5; 4 “Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.” 5 “But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.”
- Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

if you are not baptized in jesus name and filled with the gift of the holy ghost not sprinkled but submerged and not baptized in the father ,the sun and the holy ghost but in jesus name

Read John 3:verse 3 to 12

It speaks for itself. I have nothing to worry about, I'm in a Bible teaching church, Riverview Baptist Church, where I am an active member.

i just want to thank jesus for dying on the cross for our sin that we could have eternal life through him and go to heaven if we repent our sins thank you jesus

For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
John the Baptist said John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease. Galatians 4:19 tells us until Christ be formed in you. We are becoming more like Jesus Christ everyday.

Same sex marriages? Is it the Lord’s way or man’s way? Let us look at Sound Doctrine Leviticus 16:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” God has put his standard and regulation when it comes to marriage, he simply talks about husband/wife relationship and has been clear when it comes to it. Many say God loves everyone and Many people try to justify that to lie with a man as a woman is really no problem, and they will try to get behind them heaven and earth to be able to legally get married. And yes it’s so true that God loves everyone; that is the whole reason he sent his Son Jesus Christ into this world John 3:16. But he also expects us first and most importantly to Know him and his Son, so we can get eternal life, not just chance his standard and end-up in hell. John 17:3.

Acts 2:38, being Baptized is not part of your Salvation; it shows that you are saved, read Romans 10:9-13, John 3:16. If you notice Jesus did not Baptized anyone, John Baptized him for an example for us, it shows the Death, Burial and Resurrection; the only way you can be saved is through Blood Of Jesus Christ.

GOD is the only once that loves his son to this point, earthly father cannot do this.

II Corinthians 13:5 “Examine yourself, whether ye be in the faith, prove yourself:
- Do you enjoy spiritual fellowship with God, with Christ, and fellow believers ( 1 John 1:3, 4). Neglect not assembly.
- What is your attitude toward the world and its values ( 1 John 2:15). Love not the world.
- Are you obedient to the commandments of the scriptures ( 1 John 2:3-5).
- We know him because we keep his commandments.
- Do you have the ability to discern between spiritual truth and error ( 1 John 4:1-6).
- Do you live sinless now since you have professed faith in Christ (1 John 3:5, 6).
- Do you fall to temptation ( 1 John 1:5-10).
- Do you believe the basic doctrines of the faith ( 1 John 5:1). God so love the world. Have you experienced persecution for your Christian faith ( John 15:18-20). They hated Jesus.
- Do you love other believers (1 John 3:14). He that loves not knows not God.
- Do you have the inner witness of the Holy Spirit ( 1 John 4:13). Our spirit bears record with his spirit.
- Have you experienced answered prayers (1 John 3:22).
- Do you love Jesus and look forward to His coming (1 John 3:2, 3).

God is the one who begets not is he begotten, and there is none like him.

@Ron Steward,
A lot of good comments here all about one God but what do you do with John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son.......” Can you be your own son. Can you give yourself to yourself. And Genesis Where it says "Let Us make man in our Own image. Does God talk to himself? And David said "The Lord said unto my Lord sit the on my right hand......" Again, does God talk to Himself? There are three God-heads but these three are as one. This is hard for flesh to comprehend as we cannot imagine three people acting as one person so much so that you would think it was just one person but this is exactly what the Trinity is. 1 John 4:15 "Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God." I confess that Jesus is the son of God. How can you be your own son? It is wrong, How you made it as trinity Where Bible said that Father, Son, and Spirit are one?

The Apostle Paul told us to speak the truth in love so, and that’s how it goes. You say that you cannot find a whole chapter on prayer; what did Jesus go into the garden for? Pray! What about when he charged his disciples, asking them if they could not pray for one hour. How about in Matthew 5 when he told us how to do what? Pray! When Peter was imprisoned in Acts, what the church did? They prayed! In Acts 10 Cornelius did what? He prayed! Look for God's gold Sir, search the scriptures! No scripture on Tithing? Malachi 3 said if you didn't pay your tithes you did what? You robbed God in tithes and offering and that you were cursed with a curse. In fact we don’t need a whole chapter for God to declare it, we need to obey what is there, we need to submit. We don't like that much word. The great commission truly did declare us to go forth baptizing in the NAME. Father, son, Holy Ghost are titles not a NAME. If you research this, you will find in Acts, which is the unfinished history of the New Testament church, every time someone was baptized, it wasn’t done in the titles it was done in the Name of Jesus. For WHAT? The remission of sins! Read it for yourself. In fact in Acts 19, Paul asked the disciples of John what baptism were they baptized in, then they were re-baptized in Jesus’ Name. Why because the power is in that NAME, the remission of sins is in the act of obedience to God's word! When we are baptized correctly, the blood has been applied, we arise in the newness of life! We have put on Christ! We have been buried with him in baptism! If it wasn't important why did Peter preach it so ardently on the day of Pentecost to a multitude of 3,000 people? A word about tongues; The word said that tongues would cease when? What happened? When HE that is perfect has comes, that’s really what it says. Tongues have not ceased! In fact if you look at it, Paul said that he forbids not to speak in tongues that he spoke in tongues more than you all! No, when we receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost, we will speak in other tongues as the spirit gives the utterance. No Sir, that experience is still for us today, then are we born again, as John 3:3, 5 said, “born of water and spirit”?

The holy ghost where it wishes can make you hear the sound, voice; the Greek word is phone. Meaning voice, tongues; so it is with everyone born of the spirit. See Acts chapters 2, 10, and 19; Mark 16. It’s easy; no tongues no holy ghost; then you’re none of his.

This chapter was put in my spirit to remind the people that God did teach in parables because man cannot comprehend at a Godly level. I a m so glad he told the seed sowing story but backed with understanding and explaining to man how it is pertaining to man. Chapter 4:11-21 is self explainable. You must be born again to receive the word of God. Like the brother said, you become a new creature in Christ, if you receive Him in your heart. Without Him, the word means nothing at all. It is like another language. You are not an heir of the kingdom; therefore you will not understand the word. The best way to get the word as God gave it, is to pray for an understanding and open your heart to receive it. John 3:16 says it all! The "WORD" feeds your spirit and inner man.

There is but one reason that we hear the wind blow but know not where it goes. Wind (air in motion) is INVISIBLE. And so, He says, those who are born again are invisible. After, yes after, one is born of the spirit of God, he sees and enters into the kingdom of God, in a form which is invisible to (then) Nicodemus and we on earth now. Little wonder that Nicodemus responded: "How can these things be?" Even now, this can be hard for one to understand.

On this night, following a full day in which a large number of people watched Jesus perform many miracles, I wonder where everybody else was? Perhaps having dinner, or a nap, or on a date, or at a party. At any rate, too busy to visit Jesus. All but this one very good man who wanted to learn more from Him. Far from showing scorn, our loving saviour responded by teaching him how we see and enter into the kingdom of God.

There seems to be a bit of misconception, even within well tutored and perhaps thorough bred Christians about the knowledge of good and evil as the Bible states it in the book of Genesis, the beginning of the Bible. And really that shouldn't be the case. The truth is, in that commencement chapter and some few chapters after it, it was the sin that Adam and Eve committed that made them loose the garden that God gave them. As a matter of fact, prior to what is known as the fall in the garden of Eden, God did prepare everything for them, and there was a river from Eden to water that garden and it became, four rivers that watered it according to the Holy Scripture, Genesis: 1, 2, 3. However, despite that fall, a way was made available and prophecy about Jesus Christ was given. And therefore when somebody, no matter where that person is from, genuinely and truthfully gives his or her life to the resurrected Jesus Christ, that person automatically and spiritually becomes a new creature in Christ Jesus. “For as many that received Him He gave them the power to become sons of God, even those who believe in His name”, John 1:12. And from them, all the things that Jesus Christ has with regard to the covenant, belong to him, as such individual committedly putting his or her dependency on the LORD. In other words, he or she, thus becomes joint heir with Jesus Christ of Nazareth; the man between man and God. However, such a new specie must start his/her Christian life, with the milk of the Word and also ensure that he or she conducts himself or herself daily, in line with the Word of God. And that is why daily spiritual exercise comes into it, ( John 3:16; Matthew 6;33). And if, according to the Word of God, I’m the righteousness of God through Jesus Christ, then this implies I’m also the goodness of God, through Jesus Christ of Nazareth. That is where justification by faith becomes something that every believer, should and must know about and also put into daily practice. In other words, if I can speak, for instance, my life to justification, then sanctification, and purification through the Holy Spirit ministration become possible vis a vis justification, and that is through the weaponry of the God kind of faith, Romans 1:16,17. In real fact, it is far more than what the physical eyes can see. Also it is far, and far more than stickers that you put on cars or vehicles or on the front of your door. And that is because; these are issues that have the backing of the immortal and the invisible, and they are only for the discerned, Deuteronomy 29:29. Also, it should be mentioned that, the Wisdom of God, with specific reference to the Word of the Holy Writ is not, and never compatible with unrighteousness, neither does it have semblance with ungodliness. Therefore, as believers and saints, we must not get into being, as it were, devil's consciousness, otherwise instead of concentrating on the aspect of obedience, there would be the tendency that the devil is the one that we would put blame upon, as the cause of some of the problems that a Christian is going through. And yet, that may not be the case. And that is where and personal examination becomes necessary. Hence, the import of honouring and practising things that we've learnt from God's Word, that are being taught, and that the Holy Spirit is dispensing and bringing into our individual lives. In fact it is very important that we understand that Jesus Christ has already conquered the world, therefore we are not only saved, but delivered, blessed, sanctified and purified. And with that understanding, it becomes necessary that we know and recognise that we are not only Christians, but also soldiers, as it were, in the Army of the LORD, with the righteousness of Jesus Christ and His goodness at work, in and upon our lives. And that is, to the honour and glory of our resurrected Saviour. Blessed be the name of the LORD; for Him alone is worthy of glory and honour.

A lot of good comments here about all one God but what do you do with John 3:16 “for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son.......” Can you be your own son. Can you give yourself. And Genesis Where it says "Let Us make man in our Own image. Does God talk to himself? And David said "The Lord said unto my Lord sit the on my right hand......" Again, does God talk to Himself? There are three God-heads but these three are as one. This is hard for flesh to comprehend as we cannot imagine three people acting as one person so much so that you would think it was just one person but this is exactly what the Trinity is. 1 John 4:15 "Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God." I confess that Jesus is the son of God. How can you be your own son?

John 3:16 is the salvation story summed up in one simple sentence. Christ died for our sins so that we would have eternal life through Him, the Son of God!

John 3:16 tells the whole story of why God sent His Son to the world. Just so that those who accept Him as their Lord and Savior will be able to spend eternity with Him. The word should let us know that we have to confess and repent from our sins, and then we shall have eternal life. Thank God, our Father for Jesus!

@Tom Allen,
If it weren't to the individual to be born again, how is one to get into heaven? Flesh and blood surely will not, then Acts 2:38, 4:12, Colossians 3:17 and others in Acts are null and void and the Bible not true. Many would like to just use Romans as a means of salvation but that won't work; it’s a beginning..Faith without WORKS is DEAD!!!

Jesus said you must be born again to be saved. That’s accessible to anyone.

This chapter tells us we must give our lives to Christ who came on earth, died for our sins, for he said come unto me and I will give you rest, for if we abide in him, He will abide in us, for when the storms come he will cover us. For Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for the sin of man and man, and woman and woman which is not of God. We are seeing so many devastation in the United States of America, because of this sin. We need to pray for this great nation to come under God’s care and protection.

This conversation was not to a nation, but to each individual, as Nicodemus replied should a man enter again into his mother's womb. Jesus stated if a man not a nation or a group but individual is not born of water and spirit he shall not see the kingdom of God.

@Insight 777,
1. Man’s insight is no insight when it comes to God's holy word ( Matthew 22:29);
2. Jesus is the son of man and this title is used by the Jews only;
3. The scriptures make reference to Jesus as the son of man about 80 times;
4. This reference by the Jews connects Jesus to his human nature and lineage to King David;
5. Son of God is mostly a New Testament church age title connecting Jesus to his divine nature as God manifested in the flesh ( John 1:14);
6. Sons of God in Old Testament is in reference to the devil and his fallen angels (Job:1:6; 2:1; Genesis 6:2);
7. The sons of God in the New Testament refers to born again believers in Jesus Christ ( John 1:12; Romans 8:14);
8. Do not confuse son of God with sons of God, they are 2 different groups of beings;
9. Please, remember that the bible always interprets itself and honestly and using scriptures to make your point will validate your point ( 2 Timothy 3:16).

@Ken,
The scripture that you can read and get a visual picture of salvation is Colossians 2:9-13.