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Lev. Ch. 6

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we should believe and trust that our sins are forgiven

we are to make restitution to those we have sinned against

we are to seek God's help in changing our ways in this area of our life.

It is in obeying God that we love Him (1 John 4:21, 5: 2-3) and love our brother, as well.

In doing so we look out for the best interests of others and not just our own.

In doing so we glorify God and show Him to be worthy of our devotion and the giving of ourselves as a living sacrifice to Him.

In doing so, we establish a just social order that brings blessing to others instead of evil.

It is in doing so that we show ourselves to be children of God.

And in doing so we rightly exercise our calling as kings and priests unto God, being wise as serpents and innocent as doves, demonstrating that we are a holy people set apart for God's work and will to be done on earth as it is in heaven.

Hi Dr. Lyle Lee....Let me bring your attention to the Woman at the well a Samaritan a Gentile.. John 4:1 Jesus tells her of the gift of God which is the H.G. That CHILD OF Promise..There is only 1 Promise.. Luke 24:49 kjv Behold i send the Promise of my father upon you which was baptism of the H.G. the Promise and that was the only Gospel he Preached..Being bornnagain of an incorruptible seed etc.. Acts 2:39...The Promise is unto you and your children....which was the gift of the H.G....A living being had to be born in them which was the H.G. Their new heart and new spirit was the H.G. That New Creature neither circumcision nor uncircumcision ( not Jew or Gentile )...but a new Creature...Which was the H.G..When he breathe on them they received the H.G... John 20:22...The gift of God and there is only 1 gift which is the H.G....Dr. Lee don't ya see that 2 gospels wd make him a double minded man which is an abomination to God...And a hypocrite...2 Gospels wd make him a hypocrite...Double minded man... James 4:8 a double minded man is unstable in all his ways...We know our Lord was not double minded preaching 2 gospels...Gbu Lyle, but ya need to rethink this...I always agree with you..But not on this one...

.....When he said my words are spirit and life that implies living words...The 1 and only Gospel is a living being the H.G....That Child of Promise..The only Gift of God ..Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil child you will in no wise enter there in...That Child is the H.G. as that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit...Our new innerman has to be born in us Which is the Child of Promise... Romans 14:17 for the Kingdom of God is not in meat or drink but in joy and peace in the H.G....This implies that the H.G. IS THE Kingdom...And there is only 1 kingdom and 1 bridegroom

Hi Midian.

That's interesting. Esau is a type of fleshly man and so is Jacob sometimes when used in scripture.

But Esau cared not for the birth rights. Jacob wanted it but he had to learn to trust God. When he did he was later named Israel.

( The birthright wasn't given by merit.)

This seems to paint a picture of the wickedness of the ungenerated heart of man. Man has no faith or desire for God apart from the spirit of God. A 1000 years of man being ruled by the Lord with a rod of Iron and when satan is loosed not only do they rebel, they go to war against the Lord. That's not the Church who follow the Lord because they hear his voice!

John 10:27. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

God's spirit in a believer won't lead him to rebel against God.

Here's 2 verses to consider;

1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

( We've been sealed)

2 Thessalonians 2:7.

"For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. (This is how Satan's deception is made possible )

By the time you get to Revelation 4 We've been Redeemed.

God bless.

Hi Adam.

I believe Hebrews 13:12-16 speaks of spiritual living



"Wherefore Jesus also, THAT HE MIGHT SANCTIFY THE PEOPLE WITH HIS OWN BLOOD, SUFFERED WITHOUT THE GATE.

Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, BEARING HIS REPROACH.

"We've been cleansed by the blood and separated to follow him."

FOR HERE HAVE WE NO CONTINUING CITY, "BUT WE SEEK ONE TO COME". (The new Jerusalem.) Galatians 4:26-28.

("But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.)

"Sarah presents a picture of this."

( We've been born by promise.)

Issac presents a picture of this!

Galatians 4:28.

BY HIM THEREFORE LET US OFFER THE SACRIFICE OF PRAISE TO GOD continually, that is, the fruit of our lips GIVING THANKS TO HIS NAME.

BUT TO DO GOOD AND TO COMMUNICATE FORGET NOT: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

We are to praise him for freeing us from the bondage of dead works and counted us worthy to be heirs of the promise given to Abraham by faith. We are to walk in that faith righteously.

Ephesians 5:14-17.

Romans 12:1.

"I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service."

We've been brought outside the camp cleansed and given the Holyspirit to be able to serve.

John 4:20-21.

It's not location or command. ( No longer in bondage) Brought outside the camp, been made free AND NOW ABLE to worship in truth and in spirit.

THROUGH THE POWER OF THE HOLYSPIRIT IS HOW WE SERVE HIM.

God bless.

The beast, the dragon and the antichrist tare Satan, it's his unholy trinity, Satan is the great imitator imitating God throughout the centuries in the the most egregious way, it's mockery. 2 Corinthians 11:14 , Revelation 20:10 , 1 Peter 5:8 , 1 John 4:1 , Revelation 13:4 ,

Babylon the great is deception, confusion, the confusion which people spread: Revelation 17:1 Come hither; I will shew to thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many peoples.

The same account recorded in : Matthew 3:17,

Mark 1:11, context Mark 1, Luke 3:22, 2Peter 1:16-18, 1st hand account, witnessed

Also, Luke 9:34 context Luke 9:27-36, Mark 9:7, context Mark 9, Matthew 17:5, context Matthew 17, Luke 3,

Romans 8, 1John 4:15, Galatians 4:7, 1John 5:10,13,20,

Hopefully these are helpful

Hello believers, in looking at John 4:23 and Hebrews 13:15 why do you suppose God wants us to praise and worship Him? Not everyone is blessed with a pleasing singing voice, so I wouldn't think this is simply for Him to hear pleasing sounds :)

I'm sure God is 100% secure and doesn't need our love or validation whatsoever so I'm wondering what the purpose of these commands are? ( Exodus 34:14 doesn't seem to offer much support for this, however. )

Thanks Giannis.

That's the way I have it as well.

On the Matthew 24:31-46 I think I was responding to Gigi.

Her quote;

By GiGi

The most consistent view in the church over the centuries was that the rapture happens on the Last Day, as Jesus said in Luke 21:27; Matthew 24:29-31. Even Daniel was told that he would arise on the Last Day in Daniel 12:13. This is why I believe that Jesus comes back only once again and will gather believers to Himself on the Last Day.

End quote.

My point was that Matthew 24 was not about the rapture.

Those taken away are gathered for judgment.

She's rapturing the wrong group!

Some say that the tribulation is a time of testing for God's people. Who and what is being tested? God's grip?

We must consider these verses. John 10:28-29.

I John 4:4.

Matthew 28:20.

John 14:18-20.

Ephesians 3:30.

Jude 1:24-25.

Philippians 1:6. Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it UNTIL THE DAY OF JESUS CHRIST:

So it's obvious God is not testing a spirit filled vessel.

TRIBULATION.

This is mentioned in Daniel 12 where a specific time period is mentioned and Jesus confirms it in Matthew 24:15-21. This tribulation is to come upon the whole world. This is not the persecution ( By the world ) promised to the Church in Matthew 5:10 and other places.

There's a huge difference between persecution by the world and tribulation ( UPON ) the world.

Millennium.

Where does Christ thousand years reign here on earth fit in their theology?

My reason for asking is they are split in this view.

If you say the rapture comes after the tribulation and you use Matthew 24 to authenticate that, When is the thousand years reign of Christ here on earth?

Why would you rapture people out of the Millennium?

Some hold the view the Millennium has already begun and the Church will usher in the Millennium by preaching the Gospel.

They say there is no rapture.

Continue this weekend.

God bless.

Genesis 3:14,15, just like then, the trick & deception was within twisting the WORDs. Genesis 3:1-4,

Woman's seed = Isaiah 7:14, Matthew 1:23, Luke 1:26-37,

Son of wickedness = 1Samuel 25:17, John 8, Luke 22:3, John 13:2,

Matthew 4, Matthew 9:32-33, Matthew 23:25-39,

Don't be in fear. 1John 4:18, Luke 12:5, Psalms 34:9, Exodus 20:20, James 4:7,

The enmity Jesus faced: John 19:6,

* Matthew 12,

I believe it's possibly scriptures mixed together that are actually separate. However the main point you're getting from it seems to be in Paul's letters to the Church in Corinthian: 1Corinthians 7, note 1Corinthians 7:10-17,

Mark 10:1-31, Luke 16:13-31, John 4:1-43, Ephesians 5:33, Romans 7:2, John 8:1-11

Hopefully these are helpful

Hey Someone, who cares,

Who is an antichrist? Christ is a translation of the Greek word Christos which means anointed one. The Hebrew word is Mashiach translated Messiah which means the anointed one, the chosen one. One who God fixed for a specific purpose set apart to fulfill God's plan.

Jesus said many times that He/Him sent me, Matt. 10:40 Mark 9:37 Luke 10:16 John 5:30 and many more times. Also, Jesus said He came down from heaven not to do His will but to do the will of Him who sent Him in John 6:38, and Jesus said this in John 6:35-40.

We see when Jesus was baptized, He was anointed not with oil but with the Holy Spirit/Ghost, Matt 3:16 Mark 1:10 Luke 3:22 John 1:32, and John 3:34-36 Jesus was anointed with the Holy Spirit without measure. Peter confesses and puts clear the Messiah/Christ, and the miracles, wonders, and signs God did by Him Acts 2:22, also read 23-39.

"God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit", manifest Greek word phanero; revealed, made known, 1 Timothy 3:16 John 17:1-8. God gave His only begotten Son, God sent His Son who was come in the flesh, tempted as you or me, and the spirit of antichrist is denying that is true, John 3:16 1 John 4:3 2 John 1:7. Christ is not part of Jesus name it is a title, Jesus is the Messiah, Jesus is the Christ.

A liar is he who denies or says Jesus is not the Christ/Messiah, and he is an antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son. If we deny the Son, we have not the Father but if we acknowledge the Son we have the Father also, 1 John 2:18-24. You must come to your own understanding not mine, with open mind, prayer, and the Holy Spirit guiding you, you will.

These verses about the antichrist paint a picture of a deceptive seducing spirit and the people that have been deceived, just like Eve 2 Cor. 11:3. My understanding of these verses does not refer to the beast that will ascend out of the bottomless pit that has come to be called the antichrist.

God bless,

RLW

Hi. You may care to look at these Scriptures: 2 John 1:7 (denial of the divinity of Christ; see also 1 John 2:22 & 1 John 4:2,3). These Scriptures speak about the spirit of anti-christ in those who reject Jesus in both His Person and Office, but THE coming anti-christ is not named in the Bible.

1John 4:7,8,12,16,17,18,19,20,21

Hello, not sure of your motives or beliefs through your comment, but here are some verses for you.

John 4:24 - God is a spirit

John 1 - Jesus was the Word and the Word is God. He was there in the beginning and made everything (verse 3)

1 John 5:7

What I take out of this is God the Father is a spirit, God the Son is a spirit, the Holy Ghost is a spirit.

God the Son took on the flesh and was a man temporary. A vocal minority falsely assumes Jesus was a man first, but John 1:3 debunks that.

I believe human beings are also spirits. We are not our bodies, but just temporarily inhabit them. 1 Corinthians 15:44

Hi May.

There is no such thing as a white lie in the Bible. There's only truths and lies. Anything that is not truth is false. Even false worship. We are to worship in truth and in spirit.

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:24.

This worship presented here by the Lord is performed by the Spirit that abides in you. And that Spirit convicts our conscience of sin. Telling a "white lie" feels the same as telling a lie.

A lie is an assertion that is believed to be false, typically used with the purpose of deceiving someone.

God bless.

Hi Aljenon.

I would say the spirit.

Ephesians 4:4-6. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

GOD IS A SPIRIT: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:24.

I CAME FORTH FROM THE FATHER, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. John 16:28.

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, WHICH IS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER, he hath declared him. John 1:18.

God is spirit, Jesus came forth from that Spirit, and we are baptized by that spirit.

John 17:22-23. ppAnd the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Does God use vessels of dishonour and nations to perform his will?

I believe so, here's a few reasons why

Romans 9:18-23.

Habakkuk 1:5-11. Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you.

For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not their's.

They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves.

Their horses also are swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves: and their horsemen shall spread themselves, and their horsemen shall come from far; they shall fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat.

They shall come all for violence: their faces shall sup up as the east wind, and they shall gather the captivity as the sand.

And they shall scoff at the kings, and the princes shall be a scorn unto them: they shall deride every strong hold; for they shall heap dust, and take it.

Then shall his mind change, and he shall pass over, and offend, imputing this his power unto his god.

Another question asked is there such things as demon possession?

Here's what I believe and I'm not sure if it classifies as demon possession.

I believe there's ministers of Satan.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15.

These are amongst us everywhere we go and can be identified as tares. Matthew 13:36-42.

EVIL SPIRITS.

Satan is the prince of the world and he influences the flesh. the natural man. and the nations.

1 John 4:1-3.

These tares may also be seen in Jude 1:1-25.

You can't always identify these tares with their Doctrine, some of their Doctrine sounds very familiar, but what they "seem" to believe in doesn't humble them and in areas of baring fruit they seems to be lacking. This causes a closer look at their theology and you find them taking a sharp left on the path.

1 John 2:19.

God bless."

Does God use vessels of dishonour and nations to perform his will?

I believe so, here's a few reasons why

Romans 9:18-23.

Habakkuk 1:5-11. Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you.

For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not their's.

They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves.

Their horses also are swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves: and their horsemen shall spread themselves, and their horsemen shall come from far; they shall fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat.

They shall come all for violence: their faces shall sup up as the east wind, and they shall gather the captivity as the sand.

And they shall scoff at the kings, and the princes shall be a scorn unto them: they shall deride every strong hold; for they shall heap dust, and take it.

Then shall his mind change, and he shall pass over, and offend, imputing this his power unto his god.

Another question asked is there such things as demon possession?

Here's what I believe and I'm not sure if it classifies as demon possession.

I believe there's ministers of Satan.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15.

These are amongst us everywhere we go and can be identified as tares. Matthew 13:36-42.

EVIL SPIRITS.

Satan is the prince of the world and he influences the flesh. the natural man. and the nations.

1 John 4:1-3.

These tares may also be seen in Jude 1:1-25.

You can't always identify these tares with their Doctrine, some of their Doctrine sounds very familiar, but what they "seem" to believe in doesn't humble them and in areas of baring fruit they seems to be lacking. This causes a closer look at their theology and you find them taking a sharp left on the path.

1 John 2:19.

God bless.

Hi.

This is not an attempt to start a new thread on demonic spirits or evil spirits.

I just wanted to share just a few scriptures on them and why I believe they exist and are amongst us.

Their mission is to lure you away or distort the truth in DIVERSE WAYS!! ( Their Doctrine may sound a lot like yours, IF they believe the Doctrine of truth they will bare fruit. )

1 John 4:1-3.

1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD.

Matthew 12:43-45.

Jude 1:4.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Matthew 13:37-40.

Notice who planted the tares?

I believe God with his sovereignty and foreknowledge uses vessels of dishonour to accomplish his will.

Romans 9:17-23. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

HATH NOT THE POTTER POWER OVER THE CLAY, OF THE SAME LUMP TO MAKE ONE VESSEL UNTO HONOUR, AND ANOTHER UNTO DISHONOUR?

What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the VESSELS OF WRATH FITTED TO DESTRUCTION:

And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

Also notice

Habakkuk 1:5-11.

God bless.

Usually I believe the Believe states when it's wrong & when it's worship.

Exodus 34:14, Matthew 4:10, John 4:23,24,

Daniel 8:17,18, Daniel 10:9, Daniel 10:15-19,

Wrongly : 1Kings 12:30, Acts 18:13, Revelation 19:10, Revelation 22:8,9,

Hopefully these are helpful

Henry, on Pentecost the apostles were baptized in the Holly Spirit. New birth is not the same as baptism in the Spirit. But we could talk about that later on, it's another topic. Question. Can one be water baptized if he is not born again? The obvious answer is no. Water baptism has no meaning if new birth doesn't preced baptism in water. Were the apostles water baptized before Pentecost? The scripture doesn't mention that but says that apostles did baptize others ( John 4:2). And I think we can agree that one can not baptize others if not him been baptized first. Also, Jesus sent them 2 by 2 to preach salvation to Israel. Without them being saved fisrt? Jesus told them during the last supper that they were clean.( John 13:10), apart from Judas who was sinning since he had already decided to betray Jesus. Clean without been born again? When Phillip the Evangelist went to Samaria and preached Jesus there and people believed and got saved and got baptized in water were they baptized in the Spirit too? No, the apostles had to go there and lay hands on them to receive the Holly Spirit. When Paul met those disciples in Ephesus why did he ask them if they had received the HS after they were water baptized? Wouldn't it be logical to think that they got the HS if one gets it when he is born again? Those 2, new birth and Baptism in HS, are different things. There may be a case that those two may happen at the same time like in the case of Cornelius and his own, but this is one case among others. They are different things.

Amen Brother.

Ephesians 5:1-2. BE YE THEREFORE FOLLOWERS OF GOD, AS DEAR CHILDREN;

AND WALK IN LOVE, AS CHRIST ALSO HATH LOVED US, AND HATH GIVEN HIMSELF for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

Isn't that amazing Love! Christ did this whilst we were yet sinners! Ye didn't say only if you straighten yourself up I will die for you.

He died in our place while we were yet sinning.

He made salvation possible for the worst sinners ever, To all who come to him!

Paul says "And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

be ye therefore followers of God as dear children and walk in love as Christ has also loved us and hath given himself. Ephesians 4:32-5:1-2.

Her we see Love, Mercy, forgiveness, kindness displayed by the Lord.

We can't achieve this on our own. This comes by being connected to the true vine! John 15.

This is NOT expected from the world but if you are a child of God you should be able to exhibit this, especially amongst brothern.

This is not saying you shouldn't rebuke an apparent apostate.

I'm saying a supposed brother shouldn't display hatred towards another brother over doctrine, especially when that doctrine holds truth.

It reminds me of John 8:43-47.

You may not agree with someone when they speak truth but the spirit in you want cause you to hate the one that speaks it! And likewise if they're not.

1 John 4:20.

God bless brother.

Hi everyone.

I've been unable to keep up with the site over the last few days. However I just read a few comments and replies, It's one thing to disagree and rebuke and then there's is those who expose themselves.

We all understand that all of us is not brothern and this brotherhood is not defined on how well we teach or preach or agreeing with someone.

WE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS!! Matthew 7:15-16.

You can be well doctrined and be as fruitless as a broom stick.

When someone holds the truth and share it, if your ears have been opened you will RECEIVE it! This is a work of the Holyspirit.

But if someone of the world who happens to be amongst us hears that same truth and don't have the spirit don't be surprised if they hate you. John 15:18-19.

They're not hating you because they disagree with you. They're hating you because they have a different spirit than you.

HOWEVER!! Agreeing on doctrine doesn't confirm anything but truth should produce fruit and that fruit should be displayed in our lives.

1 John 4:8. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 John 4:13. Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

1 John 4:7. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1 John 4:12. No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

1 John 4:16-17. And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

1 John 4:21. And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

This is for one to examine himself!

1 John 4:13.

This is uniquely written to and for the brethren.

God bless.

Yes GOD is always good & GOD is always Great.

GOD is good: John 3:16,17, 2Peter 3:9, Psalms 22:24, Psalms 111:4, Psalms 139, Matthew 9:36, Psalms 86:15, Matthew 14:14, Read Matthew, Mark, Luke & John. 1John 4:19,

Matthew 25:31-46, 2Kings 13:23, Jeremiah 12:15, Revelation 21,

Genesis 45:4,5,7, 1Corinthians 4:5,

Great: Job 40,-41, Psalms 147:5, Psalms 95:3, Jeremiah 10:6, Psalms 36:6, Psalms 50:6,

Hopefully these are useful as you ponder GOD's goodness & greatness

Myfarewellmessagetothissite Matthew 10:14, Luke 9:5. God tells me to go back and convince one more time the people reading this site-must know that God sent his only begotten Son to destroy sins. He died once for all of us Galatians 3:28 in a very powerful way. A pattern that is similar in the Old Testament-sacrificial shedding of blood of the lamb. God knows we cannot save ourselves. So we need a Saviour Jesus Christ. He did it for us All. My prayers are to help everyone understand this basic concept and many will be saved. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. We do not believe in vain, nor we put the work of ALL apostles, most especially Paul who was the last apostle to write plethora of information for everyone to be saved. Remember the Bible is complete by itself. God gave us a free gift of grace Romans 5:15-18. The ten Commandments are for us to see how sinful we are. That is why Paul calls it a schoolmaster Galatians 3:24-25. So when you believe, trust and have faith in Jesus Christ's blood that He shed for our sins Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:2; 1 John 4:10 we die with Him Galatians 2:20. That is the baptism without submerging yourself into the water Acts 1:5, Acts 10:47,Roman's 6:3, Galatians 3:27, 1 Corinthians 10:2. We are not divided Christians 1 Corinthians 1:13-16, 1 Corinthians 12:13. Once you are saved you are sealed Ephesians 1:13, 2 Corinthians 1:22, John 6:27. Jesus sent Paul to seal us Gentiles Romans 15:28. So grieve not Ephesians 4:30. When the Holy Spirit is in you you do not want to commit sin, if you do, you are letting your old self to dominate your spirit. We are walking in the Spirit of God. God already won. Do not let Satan defeat you (on going Spiritual warfare) that is why let every thought to be with God 2 Corinthians 10:5. I came back to fulfill with the help of the Holy Spirit to ask that you trust only Jesus and not yourself here on earth. Let Jesus do the rest. It is indeed true OSAS.Sealed is sealed.You reap what you sow on earth. Peace&joy to ALL.

Hi SwordBearer,

I agree with much of what you've posted: God is Love, the Kingdom of God is within you, the psychological war that takes place in your mind, it all ends and begins with your mind.

1John 4:7-8 "God is Love", "love is of God". If God is fear and hate also, then the door is open to the probability God's opposite, Satan is capable of love and hate also. I question though whether an opposite to God in truth/reality can even exist. Is there anything that can usurp the power of God, thwart His Will or separate His creations from the Love of Christ, even temporarily? To this I would say that God is not the author of fear, I am. I have chosen in my human mind to create unlike Him, and therefore have made fear for myself. I will continue to refer to James 3:11-12. The principle established here is things produce like things, i.e. Love creates Itself and nothing but Itself, Holiness Itself, Perfection Itself, Innocence Itself, Spirit Itself ( John 3:6). They have nothing in common with fear/hate, unholiness, imperfections, guilt, and flesh. To have faith in these opposites is a confused dualistic thinking mind. The water (truth) you mentioned is the same water in which one will never thirst again, John 4, and it cannot be contaminated with salt (lies), again James 3; which results in diluted truth. Yet James says that they can't flow from the same spring (mind). Thus it is obvious the impurities (salt) must be from my own mind.

Everything that exists in reality, and that which SEEMS to be real (truth), but isn't, is from the Mind of God or from a false opposing mind (mine), respectively. The source of everything, real or false is from Mind/mind, i.e. everything comes from thought; it is an idea. The mind can make the belief in separation from God very real and very fearful, and this belief is the "devil". It is powerful, active, destructive, and clearly in opposition to God because because it literally denies His Fatherhood.

to be continued...

Leviticus 17:11

Ezekiel 43:18

Joshua 22:28

Hebrews 8:5

Hebrews 9:19-24

Everything is a patterns of things in heavens to prepare the world for the great work done by The Lord Jesus Christ 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

Romans 3:25

1 John 2:2

2 John 4:10

You understand the blood shed by Jesus, you will believe, have faith, and trust in Jesus blood only. You cannot save or trust yourself. He will give you a Comforter to guide you to the Kingdom of God here on earth.

Glory to the powerful God always.

Hi Richard

I hope you don't get offended by my regular interventions in your posts. My aim is not to argue but to give a slight different view to some points

In Rev 2-3 Jesus is not addressed generally to the people of those churches but specifically to the angels (the pastors) of them. The pastors are the ones who are held responsible for the spiritual condition of the church they serve. So Jesus gives warnings to them about doing their ministry properly or not

Jesus says to the pastor of Ephesus that he has fallen from his first love. Love to whom? The obvious answer is to God. But 1 John 4:20-21 says "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also"

So a pastor that has not so much love for God, then he has not so much love for the members of the church he serves either. And how is that shown outwardly? By his works. He has non. And what love is? A fruit of the Holly Spirit. And if we lack in love it means that we have come to a stop in our spiritual life and we actually go backwards

So Jesus warns that pastor that He will remove his candlestick, that is Jesus is going to take away that church from that pastor. (And then what? He will give it to somebody else who is going to serve the sheep properly)

And that is a warning to all pastors. They are held responsible for the condition of their flock of sheep given to them by Jesus. Are they going to be like the good shepherd that Jesus is or not? Do they work the 10,5,1 talent given to them?

Will they be like Saul the first king or like David? It is the same with all the other pastors in those 7 churches

Rev 3:3 " Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee"

GBU

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And 1 John 4:3, "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." John, as the other apostles, were dealing with an early Docetic heresy which claimed that 'deity cannot unite with the material (e.g. a body)'. Everyone there believed in Jesus' existence on Earth (they saw & heard Him & history records it for us today), but not all believed that this Christ came from God & took on flesh. The false teachers entered the Church then to teach this lie, & had to be refuted.

Does this bother me, that believers over the ages, denied the Deity of Christ? It does indeed, but people can believe what they want about this, for only to God we are answerable. But as I stated earlier, for me (personally), this doctrine is extremely vital, for my salvation & faith firmly hangs onto it. Thus I believe that it must be presented, even if only to refute false teaching. Others can be the judge of what is Truth. Maybe you feel all this debate is unwarranted & unnecessary, but I believe the biblical pattern is to defend the Truth. If I am in error, then please, you or anyone, from Scripture, expose it so that I can consider those verses. But if Truth doesn't matter, or even to discuss it, then why are we even here, or does it even matter in what we believe?

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Thanks David. I hear what you're saying, that "God looks at the heart and not the intellect; that agreement on all beliefs is not required for God to work." And I agree with you.

When the need (or, question) has arisen that requires a response to help one grow in love or in their "walk with God", then yes, there's no need to initiate a discussion/debate on how one understands that this can happen. It will just be opinions on how one has found their love or growth has increased, and this can vary & be specific to each one of us.

And yes, "we don't fight (or even need to fight) for God or His Word"; if by that you mean, that both God & His Word remain eternally consistent & true & what man may offer in contradiction, will never alter the facts. But what happens when the Word is believed but the Truths within it are being compromised, altered, or incorrectly taught? I hear one say, 'don't let that bother you - God is in control - His Word stands sure - His Spirit will guide into all Truth'.

Then why should the apostles have bothered about the health of Christ's Church & be perturbed about false doctrines/teachings entering in? Such as, 2 Peter 2:1-3 (false prophets/teachers); Romans 16:17,18 (wrong doctrine brought in, causing divisions); 2 Timothy 2:17,18 (no future resurrection, destroying the believers' faith); Galatians 1:6-9 (another Gospel); Some of 1st John (refuting Gnostic teaching); core verses in 1 John 2:22,23: "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. And onto 1 John 4:3 (next page).