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Hi Donna,

I don't believe we can just replace the word God for Jesus. I believe that uses of God in the Bible sometimes implies the trinity, but other times is used solely for God the father. I believe this is one of the common sources of confusion. Also, Jesus is Lord, and the use of the word Lord of the Old Testament sometimes seems to include God the father. I'm interested in anyone else's opinions on this. So, the three are one, the same, but also different. While this is hard for us simple humans to understand how much the same they are and how much different they are, it says it in the Bible and we must choose whether we want to trust and believe what it says.

About the word begotten in John 3:16:

I'd like to borrow from a Got Questions answer on this as I find them scripturally based most of the time. They say the original Greek word 'begotten' or (monogenes) has 2 meanings:

1. The first definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship." Hebrews 11:17 like Abraham's son.

2. The second definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind." See John 3:16, John 1:14, 18; 3:18; 1 John 4:9.

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Beware of anyone distorting the word to assume it means Jesus was 'created' later. This is not what it means. Scripture already debunks that in John 1:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6 (Jesus made all things), John 1:1 (Jesus was there in the beginning), John 5:18 (equal with His father), Jesus is the John 8:58, "I AM", Exodus 3:14, Revelation 1:8

God bless...

Bill,

In Job 23:12, it says "Neither have I gone back from the commandment of His lips, I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food."



What really is necessary, Spiritual food, or physical food? We eat three times a day or more, plus dessert. How often do we eat spiritually and feed the soul? Very interesting!

In John 4:32, after the disciples brought physical food to Jesus, they said to Him, "Master, eat." Jesus answers and says, " I have meat to eat that ye know not of.



I don't know if you have ever experienced this before, where you are physically hungry, you are physically tired, but then in some way, shape, or form, God ministers through you to someone else, or from someone else to you, and whatever physical hunger you have or physical thirst you have, it doesn't make any difference! You forget about the physical hunger and you are no longer hungry.



The spiritual food is contentment in and of itself. You are not as hungry as you used to be or as starved as you used to be. Now what is interesting here is that remember the woman left her water pot behind.



Jesus said you just brought physical food from the city, but I have food to eat that you know not of. He ministered God's word to this woman.

Carolyn Smith This is when I say let the Word of God do the Work, the witness is in our walk and talk

or lifestyle. Example years ago at an outing at my in laws place one of the children cut his arm near the pool

my brother in law who is an emt rushed over to put a bandage on it, my son went over and had it prayed for

by my wife the bleeding stopped and he jumped back into the pool. My brother in law ask what happened we told him

he was healed he said whatever and nothing was ever mentioned again. So that was a witness, like I said

people will notice a change and if not make a friend just love people where they are at and bring them up

to the Words level or Lead in love, sometimes that takes times. Above all ask God He's the ultimate guide

especially when holding forth His Word. P.S. No Fear walk in Gods Love because 1 John 4:17+18 we are fearless

spiritually in Christ! God Bless

When will those who claim to be Christians and the church will act as such. Instead of empty words of comfort, they won't precisely support him, taking groceries, seeing what needs he is really going through, and needing to be remedied. The true church meets one another's needs as a true spiritual family. You don't want to live like a church, so you push all responsibility to God. And so they excuse themselves from their responsibilities as a church, and in this way they were no more than hypocrites playing at believers.

1 Joo 3:17 - Mas aquele que tiver bens deste mundo, e vir a seu irmo padecer necessidade, e fechar o seu corao de compaixo dele, como pode permanecer nele o amor de Deus?

1 John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

James 2:15 - Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food.

James 2:16 - If one of you tells him, "Go in peace; stay warm and well fed," but does not provide for his physical needs, what good is that?

Part 2.of 2.

Thesecondmoment of potential disunity came from Judaizers (Jewish Christians) who demanded that Gentile Christians become Jews and follow Jewish laws and traditions. The Jerusalem Council (James, Peter, and Paul) met in Acts 15 to settle controversy. This occurred around the year AD 49. The leaders did not require the Gentiles to be circumcised or to follow the law, but they did ask that Gentile disciples to be aware of Jewish sensitivities. Later in our studies we will look at ecumenical councils (like the one that occurred in Nicaea in 325). It's interesting to note that ecumenical councils aren't all bad; they had biblical precedent. It's good to get together and discuss our concerns and our differences.

Thethirdmoment of potential upheaval in the church came from Gnostic false teachers who claimed that the flesh was evil; therefore, Jesus did not come in the flesh. (To be accurate, this was an early form of Gnosticism; full blown Gnosticism did not arrive until the second century). The Gnostics held to a dualistic philosophy that believed the spirit was good and matter was evil. Salvation was to be acquired through ascetic practices where a person denied the flesh, thus giving life to the spirit. Also, the word Gnostic (fromgnosisor knowledge) meant there was a secret knowledge that must be acquired to achieve salvation. The more secret knowledge a personhad, the higher that personwould climb up the Gnostic ladder.

Paul and John battled this false teaching ( 1 Timothy 6:20, 1 John 4:2, 3). During the second century whole churches fell into apostasy through Gnostic teaching.

So we see that life in the early church wasn't easy sledding. Instead, there were various controversies that had the potential to split the church in two (or three or four) sects and factions. Thus you see strong teaching from Paul against false teachers and divisive people.

Much like us there were many Issues to consider.

God bless.

The Lord expects us to be aware of things happening..Not be asleep spiritually.

Genesis 1:14 - And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: Matthew 16:3

And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

Matthew 24:24

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Mark 16:20

And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following.

Luke 21:25

And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

John 4:48

Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

Acts 1:7

And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

1 Thessalonians 5:1

But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2 Timothy 4:2-4 - Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Be watchful, looking up. Keep a ear out for 3rd Temple building in Israel; completion.

God is a Spir'-it; and they that worship him must worship him n spirit and in truth. John 4: 24

Lynn God is Spirit John 4:24 we can't physically communicate with God, therefore many times in the scripture all of Gods creation in some aspect is used to describe a characteristic of God I.E. Gods eyes run to and fro in the earth its a figure of speech, God is my fortress and my rock of salvation, my God will bare his arm, God is a fountain of living water.

Now when were born again we again have a spiritual communication with the Father holy spirit 24/7 confessing

Romans 10:9+10 and believing and changing our lifestyle to Gods Word.

Hi

Mathew 3:10-11.

I would like to add one or two more things that I believe is to be very important. Whether by water baptism or baptism by the Holyspirit, is it evident in your life that spiritual baptism has taken place.

You will run into 2 major groups engage on this topic. One group is those who believe you are saved by confessing Jesus and keeping the commandments. Some of this group believe you can lose your salvation. This group is bond to a work base religion.

The other group believes "for by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Even the faith you are being saved through is not your faith! it is a gift of God!

You have nothing to offer God in terms of salvation! I hold this view.

True baptism when you "GENUINELY" accept Christ as your savior there is production in your life that begins. You can't produce it or keep it from producing as you feed on the word.

I will share a few by verses below and hopefully others can expand on them or add to.

Notice Paul' he didn't have much to say about water baptism, but he had a lot to say about baptism by the Holyspirit.

Romans 6:4.

Romans 6:6-8.

Romans 6:11.

It does well to study all of Romans 6 to expand a little on "the production' of spiritual baptism.

JOHNS BAPTISM.

you can see a picture of this transition for the Jews drawn out for you by Paul in Romans 7:1-2. Read all.

Now read Mathew 3:10-11.

Israel was a natural branch that didn't bear fruit. Jeremiah 2:21. "Nor could it"

Also read Mathew 21:42-44. and John 15:1-7.

Now let's get back to our 2 groups.

You have the 1st group I mentioned that put themselves in bondage as did Israel and despising the truth.

believing in baptism outwardly but unbaptized inwardly.

EXAMPLE: Romans 2:25-29.

The 2nd group

Philippians 3:3.

Galatians 3:13.

John 8:36.

The outcome.

1John 2:3.

1 John 4:21.

This Love cannot be produced by self.

God bless.

That was a blessing

Krystin I'll present the scripture and you decide man originally was a 3 part Genesis 2:7 formed dust of the

ground and breathed into nostrils breath of life soul which is breath life nothing to do with the spirit which is

eternal. Genesis 1:27 God created man in His image = John 4:24 God is Spirit quote from Jesus Christ, this is not

saying man was a God this is saying with spirit man had a connection with God who is Holy and spirit not of the senses.

When man Adam and eve died in Eden what they lost was their spiritual connection with God the creator and became

body and soul life. When jesus Christ fulfilled His ministry it became available for man to become born again of Gods

gift which is holy spirit so man again had a spiritual connection with God. As it says in 1 Corinthians 2:14 the natural

man cannot know experiencial knowledge the things of God because there is no spiritual connection. When we are born again we receive the spirit of holiness Gods Gift or Holy Spirit wehich is eternal life spiritually.

Krystin I have seen to schools of thought on this. Scripturally this is what's written then you decide. John 4:24

Jesus Christ said God is Spirit you can't see taste touch smell or hear spirit in the senses. In Genesis 1:27 God created

man in His image it doesn't man became God it just means that man had a point of contact with God. Now in Genesis

chapter 2 verse 7 it says that God formed man of the dust of the Ground the body and then breathed into his nostrils

the breath of life air inhale and exhale and man became a living soul. In Genesis after the downfall man died spiritually

because he lost his spiritual connection with God, he could still breath air and had a body but he had no spiritual

connection to God. In true science everything goes back to its original point so when a christian falls asleep I.E. dies

the holy spirit goes back to God who gave it born again, you take your last breath and you body goes back eventually

bones take a long time to dust. From dust thou art and unto dust thou shalt return. Now some believe the spirit and soul are one in the same I don't see that biblically because spirit life is eternal and breath life will end in this world.

There have been several moments that were very difficult for me. Just recently I realized the years I studied scripture being confined mostly to bed after injuries: GOD ALMIGHTY is using it today, in being able to point others to scripture, without that difficult moment._..? .. would I have studied even half as much?. John 14:26, 2 Corinthians 4:17-18,

The losses I've suffered, has given me strength years before these recent trials. GOD had me prepared to face many difficulties. Through GOD's grace, taught me deeper trust in him & deeper realization of these scriptures. Hebrews 12:27-29, 2 Corinthians 1:3-7,

1 John 4:18,

Thank you for your blessing.

Hopefully these encourage you

Put your eyes to GOD ALMIGHTY! Philippians 2:10-13. James 4:13-15, 1 John 4:18, Matthew 24:4-51, Philippians 4:4-9,

Hopefully these are helpful

Dear sister "GiGi". In peace u said it.

i only share the words i have received on the day, so whether they get a heart to repent or set them free or be released from one or more burdens. Is that God's meaning to it. To day iv got: And share it willingly, because we do not live on bread alone but on every Word of God.

John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. Amen

ps. English is not my mother's language, and night hat / hood is when one does not see clearly then. :D Now this is shared and done. Today has its own troubles or fortunes. Be blessed

in His Holy Name Jesus Christ. And wich u and yours a Merry Christmas, Love u in Christ

Hello Cathleen Lovell,

I'd like to first address that if you lost a pet you loved. I'm sorry for your sadness. GOD has compassion Psalms 145:8-9, Matthew 10:29,

The scriptures do not say "all dogs go to heaven" however there are hints of some creatures.

Isaiah 65:25, Mark 16:15,

It says all beast shall give account of mans blood Genesis 9:5,6,

GOD cares so much for us that HE gave us HIS Son for our Salvation John 3:15-16, knowledge of this helps us trust HIM with everything for HE made it all, All of creation John 1:1, 1 John 4:18,

Hopefully these are helpful

Anthony,

Nothing changed, Jesus came only for the lost sheep of Israel because the covenant was only with the house of Israel, it had to be fulfilled before the new covenant could be made. We read Jesus told the woman at the well, salvation is of the Jews, John 4:22. The old covenant had to be satisfied, fulfilled by flesh living a perfect life, the price was paid the contract was completed. Jesus said He was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel, Matthew 15:24.

He also told the apostles not to go but unto the lost sheep of Israel, Matthew 10:6. Even after Jesus ascended, they only went to the Jews until Peter had his dream and Paul was called, this was to fulfill the prophecies. The word given to the Gentiles was still a mystery but as God told Abraham all nations were in the plan, Genesis 26:4. But, yes when Jesus first came was only for the lost sheep of Israel, the covenant had to be confirmed to the Jews first. Daniel 9:27 Romans 1:15-17. It was also to make the Jews jealous and save some as it was written, Romans 11:8-14.

God bless,

RLW

Jackie Just a reminder 1 John 4:16-18 also Philippians 4:8 great to memorize, give em heaven.

Hopefully these help.

Psalms 37,

Psalm 139,

1 John 4:18

In the King James Version there is no incarnation, but here is the definition for incarnation - a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, spirit, or abstract quality. (in Christian theology) the embodiment of God the Son in human flesh as Jesus Christ. John put it this way

John 1: 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

We as christains say the word was manifested in a fleshly form. The word that was spoken to mary was manifested into a flesh and blood as a baby.

God Bless

stay prayed up ready to go up

cowboy

I'm sorry for your loss of friends during this difficult time. I'm sure it's even more troubling for you because of that.

I do not believe it to be the 'time" nor 'mark' However I Believe we are to be wise. Psalms 2:10,Teaching our children. Deuteronomy 11:19.The scripture does say 'hand or forehead" Revelations 13:11-18, please read around scripture for best context. Unless translation could mean arm, it's not clearly "the mark of the beast". I think the reason many are alarmed about this is

1st because of ingredient in vaccination, Psalms 106:29, Psalms 36-39

2nd whistle blowers coming forth with evidence of ungodly acts in testing, ingredient & side-affects

3rd the division it's caused & causing in Church & society

4th The Forcefulness of it all, losing ability to work, travel in some cases

5th The targeting of the T-cells, and cells that give space for communication with GOD, discovered by scientific study, (Reported 2009). Even having immediate side-affects

6th possibly most troubling for some: 1st P. C. developer bought pharmaceutical & Biotechnology ''vaccination' developer. Then filed for patent : WO/2020/060606 for: Cryptocurrency using body activity.

Please don't panic. 1 John 4:18,

Mark 13:22, Mark 13:5-37, several of those have yet to happen. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-13, could the great falling away be those who put all faith in rapture? Revelations 6:8-11, John 17:1-20, holdfast during trial Matthew 24:13, Matthew 24:4-51,

What is worship? Is it adoration, admiration, time given to, consuming, looking into intently, loving? Some feared computers were "the beast" the image of the beast? Cell phones or 'computer chips" The other day I wondered what it looks like to GOD seeing so many faces looking into devices, not up to HIM. Let us Worship only GOD ALMIGHTY, creator of Heaven & Earth.

Hopefully this is helpful in your research of Truth. I will pray for you also & sad for your loss & heaviness for loved ones being deceived. Peace to you

Please read these:

John 10:1-4, John 10:7, John 10:9, John 10:11, John 10:14-17, John 10:25-30, John 10:32, John 10:34-38,

1 Corinthians 8:2-6

1 John 5:1-21,

John 17:1-11 * , John 17:12-21 *, John 17:21, John 17:22, John 17:23, John 17:24-26,

1 John 4:1-8, John 16:23,24,25,26,27,28

1 Timothy 2:3,5,6,

Romans 15:5-7,13,16,17

Ephesians 4:32,

Luke 18:19, Mark 10:18,

Matthew 16:15, Matthew 16:16-17

James 1:5

Hopefully these fully answer your question about Jesus, GOD & The HOLY Spirit.

Hello Blaine One scripture example of your answer Acts 5:32 the Holy Ghost or Hagion pneuma [separate wind or breath ]whom God hath given to them that obey him, the gift form the Giver. Also holy spirit also translated

holy [set apart by God] spirit wind or breath which ties in with John 4:24 which what God is Spirit and we were given His Gift, holy spirit. I like spirit better because ghost makes it sound mystical, that's just opinion. They are both the same.

I'm not understanding your question/statement. I'm not sure which pastors you speak of. Riots that happened early 2020?

Anti mask? Antivax? These five you've quoted Can't, in truth, be lumped together. Let's address the first 2.=

GOD made us in HIS image, we reflect HIS glory, HE didn't create humanity with masks. HE created us with an immune system. We are to go about with unveiled faces. We are to live by faith & not fear. Many discussions have been had on this site about these issues.

Revelations 21:8,

Ecclesiastes 37:11, John 2:13-17

USA We The People are the Governing Authority & by Duty, are required to right the "government" when they usurp their authority.

The last 3 labels Antilove,- charity, ect, clearly are not of Christ.

1John 4:18, 2 Timothy 3:15-17,

Isaiah 26:3,

Hopefully these are helpful in the heaviness you feel

Tony Spirit is not passed at birth, when any human is born he is body and soul, the only exception to this that

I'm aware of is John the baptist, even Jesus Christ was not born with Spirit, John 1:32. When an individual gets

born again he receives that which he didn't have before holy spirit eternal life Gods Gift. Now some believe the

spirit and soul are the same.

Spirit life is eternal where as when you take your last breath that's the end of sou life , Genesis 2:7 God formed man, gave him shape then breathed into his nostrils breath of life and he became a living Soul

it is believed by some since God is Spirit that is what he breathed in man. In Genesis 1:27 God created man in His own

Image and In the Gospel of John 4:24 Jesus Christ said God Is Spirit. So man in the beginning was body soul and spirit

when man sinned in Genesis He lost his Most important part His Spiritual connection with God which was bought back by Jesus Christ.

We Do, We put it on.

With it we're well equipped.

If we think we can do anything more than that, We're taking it off!!

We would fail like Peter did when the Desciples were absent of the Holyspirit.

Redemption has been settled on the cross.

The Armor is to do exactly what it says it does.

Ephesians 6:11. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may BE ABLE TO STAND AGAINST THE " WILES " ( Schemes )OF THE DEVIL.

Satan doesn't come to you as a wolf! He comes to you as a wolf in SHEEP'S CLOTHING.

Satan is subtil. That's how he approached Eve. " Now the serpent was more " SUBTIL " than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. Genesis 3:1."

But the Lords sheep don't hear his voice!!

Jesus is the chief shepherd and those who shepherd his flock will show the fruit of the Spirit not the works of the flesh.

"No coveting the glory in Christ victory"

When someone is in the Spirit they want speak much of themselves, They will speak of the Work of Christ on the Cross.

Worshipping in truth and in Spirit is CAUSED by the Holyspirit.

Here's the only weapon we have, The word of God!!

And it's not given to you to use to bind Demons!!

It's given to you to minister the gospel and "IT" will divide asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, I believe That happens when you are QUICKENED by it..

Our flesh is also our enemy. The flesh can become super sensual when ministering in the flesh and lacking the spirit.

I'm Sorry but we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

God bless

John 1:18

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. [represents God wrapped in human flesh]

1 John 4:14

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

John 14:7 [Jesus speaking]

"If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him."

Gigi In regards to what we were talking about I will refine what I stated God is Spirit John 4:24, what we were

given on pentecost is what man lost in Genesis his spiritual connection with God when he sinned. Now I'm fully

aware that some believe that the soul is spirit and spirit is soul. That being said I read in Genesis 2:7 Lord God formed

man dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. In Genesis 3

when God said to man the day you eat of the tree thou shalt surely die he lost the most important part His Spiritual

connection with God. That is what was gotten back on pentecost when it became available to receive the Gift of Holy

therefore man again is a three part being. So I'm not at all saying we are perfect and have God inside us that's fallacy

and I notice someone else is buying that unfortunately. We were given freely His gift that we operate and the God

given enablements of that gift when walking in the faith of jesus Christ. Our biggest pain is the flesh so we have a

spiritual inner man who's there to help against the man of the flesh who's the antagonist. The battle is the mind, either

we walk on the word or we succumb to the flesh. Now the people who want argue this I have no time for but If someone

wants to reason I'm game. I was not raised with any religious belief system which I have found to be actually

beneficial because I had no preconceived ideology on what to believe about Gods Word. That being said I have done extensive studies for 45 years on what others have written and worked some of the original languages it was

translated from which is very enlightening to do. Because equally educated men have different beliefs on same subject matters. Again I believe what I believe, because in my life I have lost count of the

signs, miracles, and wonders that follow those that simply believe and act on It Is Written. God Bless

Amen Sister GiGi.

As we fellowship we come together to grow in all areas of the faith, At the moment we may not be able to agree on all things, But some day we will. But that doesn't mean we should yield to false doctrine or false teachers. In fact Revelation ch 2 and 3 we're being judged for suffering these false teachings to creep in.

Revelation 2:20. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou "SUFFERETH" that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Revelation 2:14. But I have a few things against thee, BECAUSE THOU HAST THERE ( THEM ) that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

Have you noticed The Lord is not condemning them for holding the doctrine of Balaam, He's condemning them for having those there that do!! And like so with jezebel.

Have you noticed when we're liberal we get alone with everyone and they get alone with us. But when truth and the straight and narrow way is presented then there comes the train wreck! You will see hate without a cause!!

Some blend in quite well, Some loose all self control and attack even the newcomers.

A believer that has been spiritualy born should bare fruit!! And the Spirit should CAUSE those who are in Christ to Love one another. Not join themselves to everyone who comes on the site and attack the faith! Agape/ Love for the brothern is something the flesh cannot do, .

Why is there so much fuss about doctrine but no fuss at all what sincere milk should cause you to do?

1 John 4:21. And this commandment have we from him, THAT HE WHO LOVETH GOD LOVE HIS BROTHER ALSO.

Have you noticed it doesn't say "SHOULD" Love his brother!! It's saying that Love given to Love God is "CAUSING" you to Love your brother also!!

GOD BLESS.

Hi Jean It is available for all believers to manifest or display power from on high Speaking in tongues, Jesus Christ spoke about this when addressing the samaritan woman when in John 4:23 +24 he said But the hour cometh and now is when the true worshipers shall worship the father in spirit and in truth for the father seeketh such to worship him. God is Spirit

and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth or truly by the spirit. That was the first display of

Gods spirit working on the day of pentecost birthday of the age of Grace. Some say special gift some say doesn't exist anymore some say not needed. 1 Corinthians 12 : Paul went from gift to in verse 7 to manifestation of the gift, it is a great benefit to the believer spiritually it is personal prayer between you and father not to be done out loud or out

of order because all things of God are done decent and in order This is not to say that believers who don't speak in tongues don't believe or love God, that is biblically not sound. My bible says confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe in your heart and act on Gods Word. My understanding