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what is definition of John 4:23, worshipping in spirit and truth?

Hi.

Part 2.

We take up our cross and we follow the Lord, We don't summon him to join us in battle, We join him in a battle ALREADY WON.

John 12:31-32. Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

Satan, our flesh and the World is three things the Holyspirit supposed to have already separated you from.

And looking for the right scripture to cast out demons to defeat death is unscriptured!! Christ already defeated the death that a Christian had to worry about, and that's THE 2ND DEATH. We were baptized into that death and resurrection.

Satan don't want you dead if he can use you, He wants you lost so you can help loose others.

The Characteristics of a mature Christian is not in his abilities.

The apostles Peter had to be taught that, He failed miserably in his long suit.

When the spirit indwelled him he became mighty indeed.

The Characteristics of a mature Christian is a Christian barring much fruit. and that's supplied by the Holyspirit and we are adequate for service and no need of anything else.

1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

God bless.

Hi.

Part 1 of 2.

For our friends during their recovery we didn't depend on our own ability. We humbled ourselves and prayed and asked for prayer. We didn't demand anything or perform anything. WE PRAYED.

Now concerning Satan, There's several scripture that I keep in Mind.

Here's just a few.

1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN YOU, THAN HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD.

James 4:6-7. But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

Submit yourselves therefore to God. RESIST THE DEVIL, and he will flee from you.

And

Romans 8:28-39.

Ephesians 6:11-18.

I don't quarrel with Satan if I do I relieved myself of my Armor.

I don't mimic what Jesus did When he said

Matthew 4:10. Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Jude 1:8-10. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

Jude 1:16-20. These are murmurers, complainers, WALKING AFTER THEIR OWN lusts; AND THEIR MOUTH SPEAKETH GREAT SWELLING WORDS, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

THESE BE THEY WHO SEPARATE THEMSELVES, SENSUAL, having not the Spirit.

But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

Our motivation is love of God agapeo for others thanks to the love we were given in Christ the unbelievers sole purpose is self motivated by false pride and fear. Epistle of 1 John 4:13-21. God Bless Our purpose motivate by Love. His goal manipulate with fear. We conqueror with the LOVE OF GOD manifested in our walk and talk. God Bless.

1 John 2:18

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 John 2:22

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:3

And every spirit that confessenot that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2 John 1:7

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a Deceiver and an antichrist.

Names of Satan

23. Dragon

Satan is called the dragon.

And the great dragon was cast down, the old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world; he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him ( Revelation 12:9).

The term dragon is associated with those who oppose God.

24. Old Serpent

He is also known as the old serpent.

And the great dragon was cast down, the old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world; he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him ( Revelation 12:9).

This reminds us of the Garden of Eden when Satan came to Adam and Eve in the form of a serpent. It speaks of his cunning.

25. Deceiver Of The Whole World

This fallen angel deceives the unbelieving world.

And the great dragon was cast down, the old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world; he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him ( Revelation 12:9).

Deception is what this being is all about - he is the master deceiver.

26. Accuser Of God's People

God's people are constantly accused by this evil

Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, proclaiming, "Now have come the salvation and the power and the king

Hi Brother Arnold.

I can second everything you have said, And I agree with Brother Chris also. Things is just not the way it started in acts 2. The Church prophesized with leaven in it from the the very beginning. " Leviticus 23:17. " Also Paul said in

Acts 20:29-30. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

("" Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them."")

Also Jude: Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

I believe the Church has become worldly and is spiritually wounded. But they're many like yourself that feels a nudge from the Holyspirit to not be slothful in true worship. While you are there come forward and offer help in that area, lets do our best to make a difference. I'm going through the same thing, your complaint mirrors mine!

One thing I can tell you that the coronavirus did is manifest this lack of Genuine Love between the brothern.

Their worship was always at a place and on a day. but not in truth and in spirit.

Reminds me of John 4:23-24. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Continue to keep yourself in scripture and sharing at your church and with others in the spirit of meekness, Believe me it's a struggle! but remember you are not alone.

God bless you.

Here's is one of the most important verses in scripture. And one of the most misunderstood!

Because people think this is something you do, or you just say.

But it's something that you have no control of!! John is telling us it has already been done by the Holyspirit!

Notice the last four words doesn't say you SHOULD LOVE your brother also. IT SAYS YOU DO! OR IT'S DONE. THIS IS PERFORMED BY THE HOLYSPIRIT. ITS AGAPE.

1 John 4:21. And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God LOVE HIS BROTHER ALSO.

1 John 3:10. IN THIS THE CHILDREN OF GOD ARE MANIFEST, AND THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, NEITHER HE THAT LOVETH NOT HIS BROTHER.

If this Love don't exist between two then maybe you're not brothers. Which implies you have separate Fathers.

Jude 1:4. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jude 1:12. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots

Jude 1:18-19. How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

1 John 2:19. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, THAT THEY MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST THAT THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US.

Beware of woman and men who say they're Christian but join themselves with EVERYONE how is against truth.

John 14:6. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Thanks Jesse for much on this lesson.

God bless.

JOHN 4:35-37

35 ... Behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to HARVEST.

36 And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto LIFE ETERNAL: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together.

37 And herein is that saying true, One soweth (JESUS), and another reapeth..(the reapers)

Matthew 13:v.37-43

He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

38 The field is the WORLD (the Devil's world); the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the Devil.

39 The enemy that sowed them is the Devil(the Devil and his messengers); the Harvest is the END of the WORLD(this event will happen, will fulfil LITERALLY, in the current time); and the reapers are the angels(messengers).

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in this END of this world.

41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels(messengers), and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a Furnace of Fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then - only then- shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings (kings made by Him) and LORD of lords

Oseas Man Garden of Eden 3 Part Being, First part Spirit Gen. 1:26+27 Look at Gospel of John 4:24. Second dust of the ground Gen. 2:7 3 Soul life man took first breath became living soul breathed into nostrils. Gen. 3 Fall of man spiritually lost connection with God no spirit still had body and soul. Now throughout old testament Spirit given to certain men i.e. moses, David, Noah, shown how to build ark, abraham Isaac Jacob and so on. Day of pentecost given to all who confess Romans 10:9+10 called in hebrews incorruptable seed also known as Holy Spirit Gods Gift, Displayed in full power by Only Begotten son Our saviour. This is what I gather from scripture.

Hello Joanne. Matthew 15:24: "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Jesus had gone to the coastal towns of Tyre & Sidon which are in Phoenicia. He went to minister to the Jews there (you might remember that the tribe of Asher had inherited some of that portion of the Land of Canaan back in the days of Joshua). So, we're not told what type of ministry Jesus was already doing there, when a Canaanitish woman approached Him to heal her demon-possessed daughter. Jesus didn't want to expand His Work to all people, so initially He refused her, saying that His Mission was to "the lost sheep of Israel", or the Jews who were perishing/in darkness for lack of Truth. Some could interpret Jesus' phrase as 'to the Jews who were scattered in these far off parts', but I think the emphasis on their 'spiritual needs' was what Jesus was referring to here. If Jesse sees this, he could clarify it better than me.

But because of this woman's great faith, Jesus just gave the Word of healing, for we read that her daughter was healed in that hour, or in that moment. And Jesus did touch the lives of non-Jews from time to time (e.g. you can look up Matthew 8:5-13; John 4:1-42; Mark 5:1-17) but His Mission was primarily to the "lost sheep of Israel".

Oseas consider this John 4:24, Gen 1: 26+27, lost spiritual connection after Gen.3:1-6, they did not physically die they spiritually lost connection to God. Before that time Adam had all dominion and power, gave it to Luke 4:5+6. Bought back by Jesus Christ Jn. 10:9+10. Adversary the thief, steel kill and destroy. Some things to consider by scripture in context to subject matter.

Yes indeed. The words 'ghost' & 'spirit' are interchangeable. However, these days with many films & books about the paranormal, 'ghosts' are associated with apparitions doing things that their authors designed them to do.

However, in the spirit world, their appearance & functions are different. With Almighty God, He is a Spirit Being ( John 4:24) & from Him issues forth His Word (Who became the human Jesus), & His Holy Spirit, sent to "reprove the world of sin, of righteousness, & of judgement" ( John 16:8). So when we read of the Holy Ghost or the Holy Spirit, they are the same Spirit sent out from the One God Who is Spirit.

Chris you didn't misunderstand me if in the Epistle of 1st John chapter 1:5 it says God is Light and in God is no Darkness at all than the God and father of our lord Jesus Christ could not have been responsible for the desolation of the original Heaven and earth. Also in the Gospel of John 4:24 it says God is spirit you cant see taste touch or smell spirit but you can observe the manifestation of the power. That's why in Genesis 1:3 God started reorganizing that which was ruined. Through out all time from Genesis to revelation God and mans arch enemy the adversary serpent devil, has endevoured to wreak havoc on Gods Creation because His Goal is to be Like the most High God and be worshipped by man whether knowingly or unknowingly. Thank God, that God was loving enough to wait until the appointed time to send His Son to deliver us from the darkness of this world. To me the Word of God has no contradictions, because God is not a man that He should lie. Not endeavoring to justify anything just things to consider. Over and out

TO: Dianne on Psalms 51

I know God is forgiving, and I joyfully accept His forgiveness. My weakness comes in my inability to forgive myself. The world is constantly reminding me of my wrongdoing. Sadly, the world to which I'm referring is within the church.

Most true children of God has a hard time forgiving themselves, but we must Mark 11:26

(But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.) This scripture is talking about forgiving everyone including ourselves because Romans 2:11 (For there is no respect of persons with God.) I know exactly what you are talking about when you mention the church world, but remember there is no church world with God; ONLY the world and the church! The church starts in you, you are the temple of the living God if you have been Born Again and

1 John 4:4

(Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.) Praying for you

The 70 th Week

Part 2

More scripture on Jesus first coming ( Luke 3:1-6) Tiberius Caesar was emperor from 14-37 A.D. Pontius Pilate ruled from 26-36 A.D. so the fifteenth year of Tiberius would have been 29-31 A.D. start of John the Baptist ministry. Jesus was baptized, then Jesus went into the wilderness for forty days, tempted by Satan. Then His ministry started. They put John B in jail and later beheaded him. Not long after, in John 2, Jesus was in Cana of Galilee at the wedding and after in John 2:13, the Passover was at hand. This would place it just before spring of 29-31 A.D. maybe a month before the Passover.

( Daniel 9:26), "after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off". The 7 weeks, 49/48.3 years that are not counted. This was when the restoration and repairing of the walls, streets, and gates of the city of Jerusalem by Ezra and Nehemiah ( Nehemiah 2:8-17; 4:17). Troublous times when their enemies tried to stop the building ( Nehemiah 4:7) the first 7 weeks, 49 years, or 48.3 prophetical years of the prophecy. So, the main word here is after. The Messiah (Jesus) is cut off 7+62=69+3.5 years= 479.5 prophetical years with 3.5 years to go to 490 years 365-day years or 483 prophetical years

The other half of 9:26 tells us the people (Roman army) of the prince (Titus) "that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary" 70 AD. Titus did not want to destroy the temple, he wanted to make it a Roman temple but the army (people) set it on fire and destroyed it.

( Daniel 9:27). Jesus was here 3.5 years confirming the covenant to the lost sheep of Israel. When Jesus was cut off (crucified) in the middle of the week, He caused the Levitical law sacrifices and oblations to cease, no more animal sacrifices would be accepted by God, Jesus said the worship of God will no longer be accepted at the temple ( John 4:19-24), and the veil rent in half, ( Matthew 23:31-38) covers the second half of verse 9:27.

RLW

Hi Stephanie.

We worship EVERYDAY OF OUR LIVES!!!

We don't stop worshipping Sunday through Friday to make Saturday Special, Nor do we do that for any other day!! We need to understanding we're vessels!!

2 Timothy 2:20-21. But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

WE DON'T FILL THESE VESSELS!!

We are LAMPSTANDS!! And OUR FATHER

supplies oil!!

Matthew 5:14-16. Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

""TRUE"" Worship is not of ourselves!!

Ephesians 2:10. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Worship is also NOT a place you Go!!

John 4:21, 23-24. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

We are fruit barriers!!!

John 15:5. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

WE DON'T PRODUCE THE FRUIT!!!

WORSHIP IS A NEW LIFE, NOT A 9 TO 5.

The Sabbath day is everyday because we don't do it. CHRIST DID!! We join him in his rest.

We're beneficiaries of a Promise.

GOD BLESS.

Brother Forest, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Do you think Christ feels like a ROBOT.

Do you think his Father feels unloved because he CAUSES Jesus to love him.

Jesus said HIMSELF; of myself I CAN DO NOTHING. ( John 5:30) ( John 18:28)

Jesus said HIMSELF; ye (man) can do NOTHING YOURSELF ( John 15:5)

Philippians 2:13 For it is God who WORKETH in you BOTH TO WILL and DO of HIS GOOD PLEASURE.

We make thousands of choices each day; but every choice has a CAUSE that made us make that choice, and that CAUSE is God.

God CANNOT be Sovereign and man have FREE WILL.

Ephesians 1:11 ...being predestined (everything is chosen for you) according to the PURPOSE of HIM (GOD) who WORKETH ALL THINGS after the counsel of HIS WILL.

FREE WILL is the wisdom of this world that God calls FOOLISHNESS.

It is really easy to rest IN CHRIST when you BELIEVE HIS WORDS.

Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fullness of times he might gather together IN ONE ALL THINGS IN CHRIST, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth, IN HIM.

1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be Saviour of the world.

You cannot be Saviour of the world without SAVING THE WORLD.

Greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

I have got a question, am not asking out of carnality,but to be edified.

QN: The bible says in the famous scripture of John 3:16 that Jesus is the only begotten son of God.It is repeated also in John 1:18 and 1 John 4:9.I agree that Jesus is the begotten son of God,but at the same time even us who have believed in Him we have been begotten of God and we are sons ( John 1:12).So, is Jesus the only begotten son of God?

Will be grateful to hear from you.

Again, I am not challenging the gospel, I am just a believer who needs to be edified.

Benon.

TO: Jeannie Myers on 1 John 4

You did not mention if the people you can not tolerate is sinner or saint. Sometimes it is better for Christians to separate themselves, (if possible) from anybody that may provoke them to anger, especially unbelievers; 2 Corinthians 6:14

(Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?)

Every time you start thinking on these negative thoughts, remind yourself of God's Word, First John 4:4 (Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.) The most important thing you can do is ask God to forgive you,/ you forgive them, and constantly pray, may the Lord Jesus help you in your trials.

Hi Yohan.

If we have any strength at all it's by He that's in us.

1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

We're told to submit ourselves to God and do something our flesh don't want to do! "RESIST THE DEVIL "

James 4:7. Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

We have 3 enemies, Our flesh, the world, and Satan,

Satan disguise as an Angel of light wouldn't have no trouble with us if we're not barring Gods armour.

Ephesians 6:10-13. Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

We hear people in prayer trying to bind Satan,

If we could bind him we would be proud and loose him again!!

Look what Jude say about them.

Jude 1:19-20. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

Jude 1:8-10. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

During the Millennium the devil will be chained a 1000 years, when the devil is loosed man will rebel again in this perfect economy!!

God bless

Brother Adam, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

John 6:38 For I (the word, Christ) am come down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him (Father) who SENT (the word) me (Christ).

1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father has SENT the SON (HIS WORD) to be SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD.

Most Christians DON'T BELIEVE GOD'S WORD.

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my (Father's) word (CHRIST) be that goeth forth out of my (Father's) mouth: it (word, CHRIST) shall not return unto me void, but it (word, CHRIST) shall accomplish that which I please, and it (word, CHRIST) shall prosper in the THING (to be saviour of the world) whereto I SENT IT (word, CHRIST).

A literal lake of fire and brimstone that last for ETERNITY make the words above a LIE.

James 3:16 - For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

James 4:2-3 - Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. (Read More...)

James 3:14 - But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.

Proverbs 14:30 - A sound heart is the life of the flesh: but envy the rottenness of the bones.

1 Corinthians 10:13 - There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Galatians 5:19-21 - Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, (Read More...)

Proverbs 27:4 - Wrath is cruel, and anger is outrageous; but who is able to stand before envy?

James 3:14-15 - But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. (Read More...)

1 Corinthians 3:3 - For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

Romans 12:21 - Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

1 Corinthians 13:1-8 - Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. (Read More...)

Proverbs 10:12 - Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.

1 John 4:8 - He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

Psalms 25:4-5 - Shew me thy ways, O LORD; teach me thy paths. (Read More...)

Exodus 20:17 - Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Galatians 5:22 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy,

Exodus Chapter 33

(Moses' encounter with God)

20 And he said, Thou canst not SEE my face: for there shall no man see me, AND LIVE.

21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:

22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:

23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

John 4:24

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Comment: should you read through the Old Testament, you'll see that the Ark of the Covenant was treated in a very specific way. It was not open to the public.

It is even sinful (I think) for artist's to paint paintings of what they think God looks like. Or what Jesus looks like. The Bible says that Jesus was an ordinary looking man.

The Book of Revelation describes Jesus as victorious and ready to close the book on earth as it is now.

Brother Peter, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

In Genesis God says, let us make man in our IMAGE. This was not done at that time. At first creation man was created from dust and the breath of God. God gave Adam life through the BLOOD. When Christ came under the new covenant it became possible to be CREATED a second time, by SPIRIT and an immortal body (like Christ was given when he was born of the Spirit; the beginning of CREATION. This is what Christ has and will continue doing till all creation is in the IMAGE OF GOD.

Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the FULLNESS OF TIMES (AGES) he might gather together IN ONE ALL THINGS IN CHRIST; both which are in heaven (first resurrection) and on earth (second resurrection), EVEN IN HIM.

Who is (creating), and was (creating), and will be (creating).

The FIRST (of creation) and the LAST (of creation).

Psalms 104:30 Thou sendeth forth thy Spirit (Spirit was given a body at the beginning of creation), and they (first creation, flesh and blood) are CREATED (second creation, flesh and bone not blood but SPIRIT), and thou RENEWEST the face of the earth.

Psalms 104:29 Thou hideth thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to THEIR DUST.

Psalms 104:30 Thou SENDETH forth thy Spirit (CHRIST), they are CREATED, and thou renewest the face of the earth.

1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that God has SENT the SON (THE WORD as in the above WORDS) to be the SAVIOUR of the world.

Man want keep the word of God from being FULFILLED.

New heaven and new earth.

1 John 4:14 Jesus will save the world

May, CHRIST GRACE US with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

There are VARIETY OF EFFECTS, but the SAME GOD who works ALL THINGS in ALL PERSONS.

1 Corinthians 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which WOKETH ALL IN ALL.

ALL THINGS originate from God.

1 Corinthians 11:12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man by the woman, but ALL THINGS OF GOD.

God is operating ALL.

Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained (been given) an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose (save all mankind) of him who worketh ALL THINGS after the counsel of HIS WILL.

1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent (commissioned/commanded) the Son (the WORD) to be saviour of the world.

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my WORD be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return into me void, but it (the WORD, CHRIST) shall accomplish that which I please, and it (CHRIST) shall prosper in the thing (salvation of the world) whereto I sent it.

He who fills ALL in ALL.....Father of ALL.....who is OVER ALL...THROUGH ALL....IN ALL

Ephesians 1:23 Which is his body (each of us), the FULLNESS OF HIM that filleth ALL in ALL.

Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of ALL, who is above ALL, and through ALL and in you ALL.

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the saviour of ALL men, specially those that believe.

1 Timothy 3:11 These things COMMAND AND TEACH.

Isaiah 53:5-6 But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed.

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

1 Peter 2:24 Who His own self bare our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.

1 John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

Praise and Glory to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! For ever!! Amen.

I won't add to the other brothers' good responses to you Norman, but would like to just mention this: when sharing with Muslims about the Gospel & the Word of God, amongst the many accusations that they make towards Christians, one is, that "you Christians have changed God's Word". Of course, I know what they mean by this: that the Bible we read does not align with the scriptures that they hold dear (i.e. the Quran) - that we have changed words & believe in three gods. I tell them that what they say is very interesting & that I would like to also know where in the Bible these errors are, what were the original texts & what changes have been made. Of course, they can't take that argument further because their accusations are simply regurgitations from their religious leaders' unqualified rhetoric about the Bible & the Christians' deceptive behaviour.

And likewise with the understanding of the Triune God. Their rejection of the Divinity of Christ is simply an extension of the Docetic heresy which claims that "the incarnation is incredible (unbelievable) because deity cannot unite itself with anything material, such as a human body". And this heresy has permeated the Church today even as it was in the apostles' days, when they had to (as the Apostle John did) in 1 John 4:1-3: (v3) "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God". And 2 John 7, "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver & an antichrist." The Muslim certainly believes in the historical prophetical Jesus & gives Him utmost respect, but simply cannot believe that this Jesus was & is Divine by His very Nature & not imputed with the Divine.

It becomes a case of their (& the guy on FB) predetermination of not only an excuse to not read from the Bible, but to not wanting to believe its Holy Message for them.

Hi Sacha,

You're not butting in, I don't think any private conversations on this site.

The context in this comment was those who "HATE THE BRETHEREN' the love Christ is not in them.

"If Christ dwell in us and we in him, his spirit CAUSE us to love one another.

quoting me now:

"I believe the emphasis here in John is not just the love for the brethren is evidence of

Christ in you,

But also the hatred for the brethren is evidence Christ is not in you."

Here's THE VERSES.

1 John 3;18-21. My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.

For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

"We may fool one anther but not God." God knows the Heart!!

1 John 2:8-11. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

1 John 4:20-21. If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

1 John 2:5. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected:

( hereby know we that we are in him.)

We are to display Gods love on all men, But Agape/Love which is one of 3 loves in scripture, It's what is used here towards the brethern WHERE BY WE KNOW! Christ is in us.

God bless

John 4:21-23. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

There's not a place or day we do this.

Colossians 2:16-17 (KJV) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The sabbaths was given to Israel.

Jesus gave us rest!

We rest in him.

If you thriving to "achieve" something by your efforts Isn't that considered works?

God bless

Brother Deshawn, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, SAITH GOD, I WILL...

Is GOD a person? Do you know anything that can speak other than a person? Saith God, I will pour out MY SPIRIT ( John 4:24 God is SPIRIT); is not he saying that he will pour out HIMSELF?

1 Corinthians 2:16 KNOW YE NOT that ye are the temple of God, and that the SPIRIT OF GOD (God is Spirit) dwells in you....

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind (God's mind) be in you, which also was in Christ Jesus:

Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Psalms 82:6 I (GOD SAITH) have said, ye are gods; and all of you are CHILDREN of the MOST HIGH.

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I SAID ye age gods?

John 10:35 If HE called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (GOD POURED OUT HIMSELF ON YOU), and the scripture cannot be broken.