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  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Genesis 2:1-3, Exodus 16:23,25,29, Exodus 20:2,8,9,10,11, Exodus 31:12-18, Exodus 35:1-2, Leviticus 16:29-34, Leviticus 23, Leviticus 24:8, Leviticus 25, Numbers 28:10, Deuteronomy 5:12-15, Exodus 22:22, Deuteronomy 10:17-20, Deuteronomy 14:27-29, Deuteronomy 16, Deuteronomy 16:10-15, Deuteronomy 26:12,13, Isaiah 1:11-24,

    2Chronicles 36:14-21, Nehemiah 9, Nehemiah 13:10-22,

    Isaiah 56, Isaiah 58, Jeremiah 17:7-27, Amos 8:4-10,

    Matthew 12:2-5, reference Ezekiel 46:1,12,

    Matthew 12:8, Matthew 12:1-14, John 5:6-47, John 7:22-23, John 19:31, Matthew 23:23, Matthew 25:31-46
  • Giannis - In Reply on John 5 - 2 years ago
    Dear Bernie

    In those verses like V24 and V25 the hole Gospel is included. Pages can be written to explain what they mean. But in a few words those who hear and believe in Jesus' word that He was sent by Father God to sacrifice Himself for people to have eternal life, then those people will not be judged by God in the Final Judgement (because they believe in Him through Jesus and have their sins erased) and will not die spiritually (that is go to hell) but live eternally with God.

    If smd has a better definition please post it.
  • Bernie on John 5 - 2 years ago
    what is the meaning of john 5:24
  • Bernie - 2 years ago
    what is the meaning of john 5:25
  • Bernie - 2 years ago
    what is the explanation of john 5:25
  • Uncelebrated - In Reply on John 5 - 2 years ago
    God is telling us simply that, If YOU if hear his word (Jesus) and believe on him that sent me, (The Father sent the Son Jesus Christ), hath everlasting life ( Romans 10:9), (those whom believe this fact have everlasting life, no ending this is only accomplished by Christ whom is our saviour which is eternal) and shall not come into condemnation; (condemnation from sin being removed by Jesus Hebrews 10:10 it is the devil that condemns, God convicts), but is passed from death unto life (when we were without Jesus we were dead, but were we now believe on him and his testimony, we have a new life, remembering life is in and with God).

    I hope that helps God bless.
  • Free - In Reply on John 5 - 2 years ago
    Dear "Bernie" those ppl who believes in Jesus will have eternal life with God in the Holy Spirit. If you read on, you will understand better. Chapter 7 and 8. Pray for wisdom or for the Lord to open the scripture to you.

    God bless u and yours in Jesus name, love u in Christ
  • Bernie on John 5 - 2 years ago
    what is the explanation of john 5:24
  • Man of God - In Reply on John 5 - 2 years ago
    Good day i truly believe Jesus was say that if you believe in Gods words, in know that it comes from God himself, you on your way to be save from being condemn but you also have to be born again. die in the flesh, so you can live in the spirit. If i am not right please someone give more insight. I leave you in Jesus name.
  • Jesse - In Reply on John 5 - 2 years ago
    Bernie,

    In John 5:24, Jesus is summarizing everything He just said by saying that you must believe in me and the one who has sent me. You have to take us together as equals. If you reject either one of us, you will be condemned!
  • Bernie on John 5 - 2 years ago
    what is the meaning of john 5:24
  • WHAT IS THE GODHEAD - In Reply - 2 years ago
    The word Trinity came through the Catholic religion. Triune means three.

    God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit are called THE GODHEAD in scripture; in the approved KING JAMES BIBLE.

    There are many, many scriptures showing the Godhead working together; and speaking to each other.

    Paul clears it up in ROMANS 1:

    18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who HOLD THE TRUTH in unrighteousness;

    19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath SHOWED IT unto them.

    20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD; so that they are without excuse

    21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    [The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.]

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    (there are many more)

    I hope this helps you. Mishael
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image"

    ("us" is plural. God is plural.)

    1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

    "there are three"

    John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    "Word was God."

    There is no denying this says and means the Word was God. Who is the Word? The rest of John 1 reveals who.

    John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."

    Philippians 2:5-8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

    "Christ Jesus...being in the form of God"

    Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

    Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"

    John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

    John 20:28

    "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

    1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

    1 John 2:22-24

    "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father."
  • Adam - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 2 years ago
    Hi Jasmine, you asked several questions but I will just address your first question about God plural. It's plural because God is a triune being composed of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Beware of anyone pushing their own ideology and twisting scripture in order to accomplish their desired outcome. The Bible already says what it means and because it says this about God I choose to believe it.

    Here are verses describing that. God bless.

    John 1:1

    1 John 5:7-8

    Genesis 1:26

    Genesis 11:6-7

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    Philippians 2:5-8

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 2:22-24

    Isaiah 7:14
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi everyone dear. Now a case is central. You can turn around and never touch what you "like so much" again. John 8:36 Like and take any miserable thought as temptation. 2 Corintihans 10:5 Place it somewhere you can not come and never bring it out again! : D I see hope in that. 1 John 5:13

    For when we meet the Lord in our life, all things become new, the old is gone. John 3:7 John 3:21 And remember it is the Lord who must draw us. John 6:44 We ourselves do not know anything. It is good that we can lean on Jesus, we must all do that.

    Stay blessed in Jesus name, love u all in Christ.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Psalms 70 - 2 years ago
    Hello, FREE

    Yes Jesus was conceived in Mary as a human baby. The humanity of Jesus had a beginning, but the divinity of Jesus (God the Son) never had a beginning.

    John 1:1-4 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was Go. He was in the beginning with God. all things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men." (NIV)

    john 5:26 "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself." (NIV)

    John 11:25 "I am the Resurrection and the Life." (NIV)

    What I was saying was that The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all equally eternal, without beginning, and that Life is who they are which makes them self-existent, not having acquired life from anything outside of themselves. Jesus is eternally God the Son Who took upon Himself an additional nature to His divine nature, that is human nature. In Jesus is these two natures in one Person. His human nature had a beginning, but His divine nature existed eternally.

    Thank you for asking for clarification.
  • Mary on John 5 - 2 years ago
    2 questions: I know now God through Jesus Christ is a loving and forgiven. I know now that having an obortion many years ago was wrong. However, the Word say, You shall not kill. Will I be forgiven?

    I was told years ago God wants to heal me from my hurt. I could think of anything even the sins I had already commites. Just this year it can to pass what hurt He spoke about. My grandmother die and my biological mother lived in a very violent world. I was so angry with God and hurt. Is it possible His has forgiven me for rebelling all those years ago? He has been extemely good to me and I am happy with Him. Amen!
  • Douglas L Herrmann - In Reply on Philippians 4 - 2 years ago
    Ms. Jackson, pray for God to increase your faith. Faith is what sets our heart at one with God so we can believe his promises and live for him. Faith give access into grace ( Romans 5:2). We receive the Holy Spirit by the hearing of faith ( Galatians 3:2). Faith is the victory that overcomes the world (1 John 5:4). When reading the Bible ask yourself if you really belief what it says. Hebrews 11:6 "But with out faith it is impossible to please God: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him". Faith precedes grace, the Holy Spirit, imputes righteousness and gives victory. Faith the size of a mustard seed will remove mountains ( Matthew 17:20). Hebrews 11 has good examples of faith and the effects of it.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4 - 2 years ago
    Roman.

    My reply was to show Kay when she said "The modern rapture doctrine was never taught by the early church. Study John Nelson Darby and a Scotish girl named 'MacDonald' from whom this theory emerged" End quote.

    You said, " Spencer What you've listed is not rapture, but resurrection by the books. Revelation 11:11-12.

    End quote.

    However these are rapture quotes by them. again, Here's fragments of the post.

    Oregin

    "since not even those who are alive can be taken up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air before the dead in Christ first rise."

    Rufinus of Aquileia.

    "to be caught up to meet God, suspended in the clouds and borne in the air."

    I have been involved in several debated topics here on this site, mostly something to do with directly or indirectly to salvation.

    I've read your views.

    Our views are far off!!

    As I said to Thomas I share with you.

    1 John 5:11-13. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

    He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

    These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

    When the Lord returns we all will have to give an account.

    2 Corinthians 5:10.

    I would love to receive one and hear this. Matthew 25:21.

    I don't think I'll hear that spending all my time chasing down anymore that believes in the rapture.

    But I would urge anyone to get their household ready and be watchful.

    We have to be careful on how and when to engage because some find and treat the bible as 'Just" fascinating, or "Just" Interesting and treat the books as a great conversation piece.

    There's no virtue in this.

    I add, I have no Interest in turning this site into a battle ground over less important issues.

    Are you Interested in discussing soteriology?
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Thomas.

    May I ask, What's the purpose?

    Does it save lives?

    I agree correct answers in this area is good and knowledgeable,

    But you didn't pose a question, just a challenge.

    Here's what's important.

    1 John 5:11-13. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

    He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

    These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

    When the Lord returns we all will have to give an account.

    2 Corinthians 5:10.

    I would love to receive one and here this. Matthew 25:21.

    I don't think I'll hear that spending all my time chasing down anymore that believes in the rapture.

    But I would urge anyone to get their household ready and be watchful.

    We have to be careful on how and when to engage because some find and treat the bible as 'Just" fascinating, or "Just" Interesting and treat the books as a great conversation piece.

    There's no virtue in this.
  • Jim - In Reply on 1 John 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Adam

    Your opening comments are very interesting.

    The things you say of me are exactly what you are doing.

    You also didn't address the passage in 1 Cor 15:45, you totally ignored it.

    Luke 3:38 Adam is called the son of God. Jesus is compared to him.

    He is also the son of God. The two Adams. The first one failed the second one didn't.

    Jesus is now at the right hand of God and Jesus has been given all power from God.

    Jesus will reign until the last enemy is destroyed and that enemy is death.

    Then Jesus gives everything back to God and is subject to him. 1 Cor 15:28

    You say I denied Jesus divinity. What do you mean by that? Jesus is at Gods right hand.

    He is Gods son. He is in a very divine position.

    But is he God? No, he is the son of God. No ware in the scriptures is he called God the Son.

    Lets look at some of the scriptures you sent me.

    John 14:6 Consider John 5:30, 6:38, 7:16, 14:24,31

    His words were his Fathers not his own. The doctrine he spoke wasn't his. He didn't do his own will but his Fathers.

    This is why Jesus said I and my Father are one. John 10:30

    The Jews accused Jesus of saying he was God. Where did he direct them? Psalm 82:6-7

    The scripture called men gods. They were the rulers of Israel. They were Gods representatives.

    1 John 5:7 This verse is very interesting. It is not included in a number of other versions.

    These are American Standard Version, Bible in Basic English, Easy to Read Version, English Standard Version, Good News Bible,

    International Standard Version, Revised Version and World English Version. Why is it not included in these versions?

    Jesus was sent and the one sending is greater then the one being sent. John 13:16

    Jesus was in the beginning with God in that God new what man was about. Man would need a saviour.

    Geneses 3:15 The seed of the woman. Before Abraham was, I Am.
  • Adam - In Reply on 1 John 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Jim, just noticed your comment about denying Jesus's divinity. People try to do that from time to time, but in order to do so requires cherry picking one verse, twisting it, then ignoring the mountain of other verses in the Bible. In this case you're conflating God's son with the phrase 'sons of God' which was used in a general sense. The same unsound logic can be applied to twist anything else into what you want it to mean. It's pretty hard to deny verses like John 1:1 that clearly say Jesus is God though. It takes mental gymnastics to escape the truth of such verses. Jesus in Isaiah 7:14 is called Immanuel which literally means "God with us" but its up to each person whether they want to accept Jesus or deny Him. 1 John 2:22-24

    Do you consider yourself a Christian? To be a Christian means you follow Jesus Christ and if you don't believe Jesus is Lord then that is similar to what nonbelievers think. Some even admit who Jesus is, but still stubbornly won't accept Him. It's a spiritual battle. Matthew 7:21

    John 14:6 - No one comes to the Father (also God) but through Jesus.

    1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

    John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."

    John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."

    Philippians 2:5 - 2:8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

    2 Corinthians 5:19 "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation."

    John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    John 20:28

    Pretty hard to disregard all these Biblical truths about Jesus. He became flesh and died for you. Have you tried praying and asking who Jesus is and to reveal that to you?
  • Richard H Priday on 2 Samuel 9 - 2 years ago
    The statement of 2 Samuel 5:8 about destroying those who are blind and lame is in contrast to this statement here about the welfare of Mephibosheth. It clearly shows that the issue wasn't David's obsessive hatred of those with disabilities; but other issues. Namely, in this case for "Jonothan's sake" (v. 1) David had sought out the one remaining descendant who hadn't been killed. He regarded himself as a "dead dog" in verse 8; interestingly; King David also had previously referred to himself when Saul pursued him as that and a flea.

    The reference to blind and lame could be symbolic in the earlier chapter of a weak defence. There are also explanations given of those who were symbolically that way due to idol worship. The third explanation is that the lame and blind themselves were mocking David; and thus still wicked in God's sight. As to ceremonial laws; that has passed since N.T. times. Nonetheless; we do best to avoid "political correctness" in assuming that those with disabilities can't exhibit the same wicked patterns as the rest of the world. Jesus warned the paralytic who He healed not to sin again so that "something worse would happen to him" ( John 5:6-14). That verse may indicate that sin DIRECTLY led to his condition originally; or indirectly. The absolute meaning of course; indicates that eternal damnation exists for all estranged from Christ.

    May we all be edified as the challenge of study of difficult scriptures are examined; following the exhortation of 2 Tim 3:16.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Yes,

    Matthew 25:31-46, 2Thessalonians 1,

    Matthew 18:8, John 3:36, Jude 1:6, Revelation 20,

    Please read :

    John 3:15-17, Matthew 19:29, John 5:24, John 6:27,47, Romans 6:22,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • David - 2 years ago
    If a person is truly trusting the LORD JESUS CHRIST for his or her salvation, no they cannot go to hell. 1 John 5: 11-13; John10: 27-30; Acts 4: 10-12; Colossians 1:12, 13; Revelation 20:15; 21:27.

    GOD bless all those who have trusted in the Name of the SAVIOR the LORD JESUS CHRIST.

    March 27, 2022
  • Kay - In Reply - 2 years ago
    There seems to be a little confusion in your answer, ELB.

    It is true, at the last trumpet, we will all be united with our flesh - but those who have rejected Christ and died in sin will NOT be brought to truth on the other side of this earth!

    TODAY is the day of salvation! We must repent while on this EARTH, ELB! Listen to the words of Christ in John 5:

    28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

    29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

    Those who have done evil will be damned, for they did not cross from death to life HERE by believing the gospel. And, as I said in a recent thread, no murderers are in heaven, as we clearly see in Revelation 21:18 -

    But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    I pray these words are a help to you, and Lynn and anyone else reading this thread.

    God bless!
  • D W L - 2 years ago
    Daniel -- 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:--(read this chapter) (Read and pray a lot.)

    John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

    Luke 2:40-52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man. ---- If Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and favor with God and and man. Then we will need to grow and learn from our failures how to be overcomers.
  • RichFairhurst - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 15:5 - 2 years ago
    Originally I wrote a post saying that trying to show that "shall be made alive" in 1 Corinthians 15:22 is more than just physical resurrection may be trying to prove too much. But I was wrong.

    The word translated "shall be made alive" zoopoiethesontai is derived from a word that is used in the New Testament for being resurrected or quickened to eternal life. Here are the other passages that use derivatives of this word:

    John 5:21

    John 6:63

    Romans 4:17

    Romans 8:11

    1 Corinthians 15:36

    1 Corinthians 15:45

    2 Corinthians 3:6

    Galatians 3:21

    1 Peter 3:18

    This word cannot mean life common to all men living and moving and having their being in Christ, nor can it mean simply resurrection to either eternal life or the second death. Under this meaning I am persuaded that the word "all" in 1 Corinthians cannot be an unlimited universal "all" and in both instances where it is used in this passage it is limited by the words "in Adam" and "in Christ". "In Christ" appears to be used in this passage by Paul in a similar way to the way he uses that phrase and the phrase "in Him" in Ephesians.

    Ephesians 1:2-4,7,10,13,20

    Ephesians 2:6-7,10,13,20-22

    Ephesians 3:6,11-12

    Ephesians 4:32

    This also suggests that "all men" in Romans 5:18 is limited by the "one man" being referenced, either Adam or Christ.

    The connection that Adam and Christ share in common with the "all" in 1 Corinthians 15:22 and Romans 5:8 has several different interpretations that have been offered. Personally I believe there is a federal headship connection. "Things done by one may be imputed unto others, propter relationem foederalem, because of a covenant relation between them." Hodge

    I also believe Adam and Christ are uniquely qualified and appointed by God to be the first fruits of their respective seed. No other human beings can be presented before God in the way they can.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear

    Rebecca,

    The fact that you want to accept Jesus and are desiring salvation is proof that the Holy Spirit is working in You to create faith that will enable you to believe. So, rejoice Rebecca, God is calling and He is the author and finisher of our faith ( Hebrews 12:2) and having begun this good work within you, God is also faithful to complete it unto salvation for your whole being. ( Philippians 1:6)

    Rebecca, I do not know how you are struggling, since you said you are in a spiritual battle. But I do not that Jesus has won victory for all of us ( 1John 5:4). All that you really need to do is just tell Jesus that you need His help in having faith to believe in Him. He will answer this request. You can begin walking as a believer even if your faith is small right now.

    Keep on asking Jesus to increase Your faith and help You know Him more and more each day.

    You can meet with a pastor and ask to be baptized. (Matthew28:19-20) which normally follows one's believing and confession to acknowledge that you believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior.

    Reading the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) are a very good way to get to know Jesus. I encourage you to read ALL about Him in these Bible books and then move on to Acts.

    Rebecca,

    I will pray for you today. Dear Lord Jesus, here is Rebecca desiring You and the salvation You won for her. Fill her with Your Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit, cause Rebecca to be born again and create in her true faith to believe the Gospel of Jesus. Heavenly Father, Shed Your love and mercy upon Rebecca and draw her near to You. May today begin her new life with You as Your daughter. Dear God, You are amazing and will never turn away anyone who comes to You humbly seeking forgiveness for their sins and to turn away from sinful tendencies in repentance. Thank you that we cannot do anything to earn our salvation nor can we do anything to acquire it. It is already done for us by Your work of grace. Help Rebecca to really know this.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Kenaket.

    There's something I believe we have often missed is a passage in the book of Hebrews concerning Christ ministry and that is his priesthood had no beginning or ending.

    Note what John the baptist has to say here in John 1:29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

    The old testament had rituals and services amongst many other things that pointed to the Lord Jesus Christ. You see this throughout the book of Hebrews.

    God spoke to them in many ways. Hosea 12:10.

    We look back at the cross, they looked ahead at the cross.

    Here's Jesus in John 5:39. "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

    Hebrews 10:5-10. Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

    In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

    Then said I, Lo, I come (IN THE VOLUME OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME,) to do thy will, O God.

    Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

    Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

    By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

    ( Jesus is referring to old testament scripture )

    1 Peter 1:18-20. Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

    But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

    WHO VERILY WAS FOREORDAINED BEFORE THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD,...( BUT WAS MANIFEST IN THESE LAST TIMES FOR YOU,...)

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.


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