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  • T. Levis - In Reply on Job 1 - 3 years ago
    Son's of GOD = 1 John 4:15, Galatians 4:7, 1 John 5:10, Ezra 3:2, Hebrews 12:7, Revelation 21:7, 1 Timothy 1:2, 1 Corinthians 6:2-3,

    Jesus CHRIST the MESSIAH referred to the most as Son of GOD. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Hebrews, etc.

    Luke 3:38,

    * Romans 8:14, * Hebrews 1:13-14,

    I understand "Son's of GOD presented themselves before GOD" to mean= they prayed notice Job 1:5, "offered burnt offerings" then vrs. 6._._._ the accuser came, Revelation 12:10,

    Genesis 4:26, Luke 3:38,

    Exodus 34:2, Leviticus 14:11, Leviticus 16:28, 1 Samuel 10:19, Daniel 9:18, Luke 2:22, Romans 12:1, Jude 1:24-25,
  • Cindy R Wiggins Tapia - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Dear Mary, if you are a born-again believer in Christ, He hears your prayer. Sometimes we have to be patient and wait upon Him.

    1 John 5:14-15 - And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

    Psalm 56:3 - Whenever I am afraid, I will trust in You.

    Psalms 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth

    And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Romans 8:28

    2 Timothy 1:12 - for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

    God bless you, Mary!
  • HAVING A TEACHABLE SPIRIT is most valuable - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

    All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

    Matthew 1:23

    Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US. [Jesus]

    1 Corinthians 12:1-31 explains all the gifts, titled, administrations that God gives to the Church that Jesus has planted on earth Now.

    Those that He calls, he anoints for the work. Luke 4:18. The Bible says the gifts and callings are without revocation. If we try to operate without the Holy Spirits anointing; we will not bear good fruit. Can even become apostate.

    It's not something to treat carelessly. The Head of the Church is Jesus Christ. All parts of the Body are connected to Jesus.

    God lives outside of time and inside of time.

    Romans 1 says that if we dispute the evidence of the reality of God; we are without excuse.

    I'm not debating this. It's for whomsoever Will believe God is. Can the clay say to the Potter, " what are you doing?!!

    A good REFERENCE Study Bible (KJV)with a "center column reference cross scriptures" is very God for cross reading other relevant passages. It's the best.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Here are several scriptures I found about death & after death : James 2:26, Ecclesiasticus 38:23, Ecclesiasticus 22:11, 2 Maccabees 7:36, 2 Maccabees 12:44, Ecclesiasticus 10:11, Ecclesiasticus 17:28, Baruch, 2:17, Psalms 88:10, Psalms 115:11, Ecclesiastes 9:5,

    after death,: Matthew 17:1-3, Luke 7:12-16, Luke 8:49-56, John 11:21-45, Matthew 27:50-54, Luke 16:22-31, John 21:14, Acts 3:15, Acts 4:10, Mark 12:25,26,27, Luke 24:46, John 5:12, John 5:25, 1 Peter 1:3, 1 Peter 2:24, 1 Peter 4:5, Revelation 1:5, Revelation 1:18, Revelation 14:9-20, 1 Corinthians 15:20,21, 2 Timothy 4:1, 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 1 Thessalonians 1:10, Matthew 25:31-46, Romans 14:9, Matthew 22:32, Isaiah 26:19,

    Hebrews 11:35, Revelation 20, 2 Esdras 2:16, Hebrews 6:2, Hebrews 9:14, Hebrews 11:4, Hebrews 13:20, Revelation 11:18,

    Hopefully these are helpful.
  • TRINITY equals GODHEAD__IT MEANS THREE - In Reply - 3 years ago
    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

    All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

    Matthew 1:23

    Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US. [Jesus]

    1 Corinthians 12:1-31 explains all the gifts, titled, administrations that God gives to the Church that Jesus has planted on earth Now.

    Those that He calls, he anoints for the work. Luke 4:18. The Bible says the gifts and callings are without revocation. If we try to operate without the Holy Spirits anointing; we will not bear good fruit. Can even become apostate.

    It's not something to treat carelessly. The Head of the Church is Jesus Christ. All parts of the Body are connected to Jesus.
  • THE GODHEAD SCRIPTURES are PROOF - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Romans 1 is the one chapter that mentions GODHEAD. We cannot separate them. God, Jesus's Father

    Jesus the Word that SPOKE creation into existence.

    The Holy Spirit who performed it. He is also the Spirit of Christ.

    GODHEAD. The scriptures that prove it.

    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

    All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

    Matthew 1:23

    Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US. [Jesus]

    1 Corinthians 12:1-31 explains all the gifts, titled, administrations that God gives to the Church that Jesus has planted on earth Now.

    Those that He calls, he anoints for the work. Luke 4:18. The Bible says the gifts and callings are without revocation. If we try to operate without the Holy Spirits anointing; we will not bear good fruit. Can even become apostate.

    It's not something to treat carelessly. The Head of the Church is Jesus Christ. All parts of the Body are connected to the HEAD, Jesus.

    Mishael
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Jim,

    Do you believe Jesus is Lord and died for you for the hope of salvation?

    John 5:22-24 these verses might be interesting to read.

    You said that John 1:1 doesn't say Jesus is God, but it does. I broke it down before, but it seems we are not on the same wavelength.

    There are many verses saying Jesus is God in various ways, but no where in the Bible anywhere does it say Jesus is not God. Not only that but Jesus never once said He was not God. So, it seems unusual to arrive at such a conclusion with no evidence for it and with all the evidence for the opposite.

    Have you carefully read the whole chapter of John 1?

    14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    Since you don't think the Word is Jesus, who else do you think the Word is?

    Who else do you think fits that description of being sent to earth in the flesh, to live among us, and to die on the cross for our sins?

    15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

    John 3:28 John said "I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him."

    Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

    That clear sign along with the voice made it obvious that Jesus was He.

    John 1:29 John acknowledges it is Jesus: Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

    John 1:36 "And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!"

    Do you believe Jesus is the Lamb of God as it says?

    The next chapter Matt 4:7 Jesus is tempted and says to satan: Jesus said unto him, It is written again, "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." There again Jesus refers to Himself as Lord and God. Do you agree?

    Do you believe these scriptures?
  • Jim - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Free

    one comment. Point 7 taken from 1 John 5:7

    1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

    This verse is not in newer translations. You need to ask yourself why?

    Thanks
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Rick,

    I'd keep reading. Seek the truth and open yourself to learn who God really is and what He will reveal to you. Pray for wisdom and understanding. I wouldn't stop after one section and make conclusions before you take the entire context of the Bible into account. There are logical explanations for your questions.

    For your food question if you continued reading you would have naturally found Acts 10. There is much more info in the New Testament about what law applies today, because there is moral law, civil law, and ceremonial law. The latter two were specific to Israelites. You would also read a verse like this: Matthew 5:17-20

    Regarding your other questions you would eventually read verses like these:

    1 John 5:7-8

    John 1:1

    Genesis 1:26

    Genesis 11:6-7

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    Philippians 2:5-8

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 2:22-24

    Isaiah 7:14

    Matthew 1:23-25

    Hebrews 1:8

    Isaiah 44:6

    John 1:18

    Some OT prophesy of Jesus to come:

    Isaiah 7:14

    Psalms 72:9-10

    Micah 5:2

    Numbers 24:17

    Genesis 22:18

    God bless...
  • Gigi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Adam

    Oops sent without finishing....

    Witness of the bible and of the church from apostolic times onward.

    The idea that Jesus is not God has been refuted repeatedly over the centuries and determined to be heresy again and again.

    But I these days, this view flourishes because the church is so fractured that the authorities voice of orthodoxy has lost its effect as we are in a time where each person and sect chooses their own version of doctrines they accept as "truth" and minds have been blinded to the Truth of Scriptures, as you so clearly pointed out.

    Those who deny that Jesus is God are deceived by "false teachers" the same as those who deny that He came in the flesh 1John 4:1-4 and have the spirit of the Antichrist.

    1John 5:9-12 goes on to tell us that the witness of God is greater than the witness of men. Those who do not believe the witness of God

    (In 1John 7-8) are calling God a liar.

    I feel sad for those who have been deceived by refusing to believe that Jesus is God and that The Godhead consists of three Persons that are unified as One God. We can pray for them and give testimony to the truth as you have done .

    Than you.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Jim,

    John 1:1 already said Jesus is God. That's all I need to know. When it says the Word was God, do you think it means the Word was 'not' God? If that is your interpretation, can you please explain how you honestly arrive at that?

    I noticed you didn't comment on the more than 20 verses I posted previously. Did you hover over each of them? Each support that Jesus is God. For instance the plural 'we' in Genesis.

    So, let's pretend for a moment that the 4 verses you last shared flat out said Jesus isn't God. If that were true we would then have 20 or more verses supporting that He is God, and then your 4 supporting that He isn't. Which do you then choose to believe: the one with more scriptural support, or the one with less?

    But your four verses do not say Jesus isn't God, you are just interpreting that way. It also takes some mental gymnastics in my opinion to arrive at that. It must involve ignoring and absolutely disregarding much scripture, like the 20+ verses I shared. There are many more not yet shared which also support Jesus being God. There are so many pieces of evidence throughout the Bible, like the miracles, perfection, dying for you, resurrection, He was worshipped as being God ever since being a baby, people calling Him Lord and God, on and on.

    1 Timothy 2:5 - the man Jesus Christ. He did become a man and He is a mediator to the Father. Both man and God. Titus 2:13

    Let's say that you honestly read the entire Bible and weighed all the evidence and support, and prayed for wisdom about it. If you found that the Bible has more support for Jesus being God would you choose to believe it?

    Do you believe God has limited power, or do you think God has the ability to be in a form we created beings don't have a framework to understand? For example of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were one, 1 John 5:7.

    Do you believe Jesus is Lord as Romans 10:9 says? Do you believe He died for you for the forgiveness of your sins?

    God bless...
  • Free - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Dear "Jim". 1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

    2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

    3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

    4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

    5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

    6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

    7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

    8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

    The words are there to "eat" my friend in peace. Be very blessed in the Lord and in His righteousness we have eternal life. Be blessed in the Holy Name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and now in the Kingdom of the Holy Ghost. Remember that the prayer of a righteous man has great power. Amen.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Donna,

    The Bible flat out says Jesus is God in John 1:1.

    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    "Word was God"

    It flat out says the Word is Jesus in John 1:14 and onward. It also calls Jesus God in other scripture too, so one has to deny much of the Bible in order to deny Jesus's divinity. Why are people so motivated to deny Jesus, one might ask? Matthew 10:32-33

    The Word was God literally means the Word was God. It doesn't say the Word wasn't God. It doesn't say the Word was a different God. It doesn't say the Word was God the father. It doesn't say was kind of a God, but not really. People seem to really enjoy twisting this and trying hard to make it mean something else, but it doesn't mean something else. The Word was God still means the "Word was God." It cannot be denied what it so clearly says.

    I heard someone who seemed motivated to not want Jesus to be his Lord or God go on to say that the Word didn't mean Jesus and wanted it to mean the Bible. But that person forgot that the Bible already says the Word is Jesus in John 1:14. It again calls Jesus the Word in Revelation 19:13.

    So, all the other speculation doesn't really matter. People's devised human arguments in order to rationalize or distort to fit what one wants to believe is all irrelevant. The fact is John 1:1 says Jesus is God and the real question is does someone believe in the Bible as God's word or not? I choose to believe it. I hope others do too. Satan loves deceiving and tricking people into rationalizing away and cherry picking certain things over others.



    1 Corinthians 8:6 (Jesus made all things), John 1:1 (Jesus was there in the beginning), John 5:18, (equal with His father), Jesus is the John 8:58, "I AM", Exodus 3:14, Revelation 1:8. John 20:28.

    There are spiritual forces at work trying to deceive and twist and misinterpret. Beware of false teachers. The Bible already says what it means. Do we choose to believe and trust?
  • Jim - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Adam

    I'm not interested in what you belief but I am interested in what the true belief is according to the word of God. If you are interested I am willing to discuss with you according to the scriptures. I realize this can be a very touchy subject but I believe it is very important to have a true understanding about God.

    You mentioned about the word Bible and the word trinity and that neither of them is mentioned in the book we call the Bible. The word Bible is describing a book that we believe God is the author of where the word trinity is describing God. These are two totally different things. There are probably a number of things we could call the book that is called the Bible. But I think we would be in agreement as concerning of the book we call the Bible. The thing is that if the author didn't use the word trinity to describe himself we need to be very careful using words that he didn't use. I agree that just because something isn't in the bible doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered. I believe there is a unity in the bible which involves not only God and Jesus Christ but all true believers.

    One of the passages you used is 1 John 5:7 This passage is not used in later versions. Why? But for argument sake lets say it should be there. What is it actually saying? They are one. One in thought and one in action. Jesus did exactly as his father wanted him to do. That verse in itself is not enough to prove what you are saying. It proves unity between the father and the son. John 1:1 again proves that Jesus did everything his father wanted him to do. The verses in Genesis shows God and his angels at work in the creation and John 10:30 again shows the unity between The Lord Jesus Christ and God. I would go one but I'm running out of space. I'd like to show you a few passages to consider.

    1 Tim 2:5, John 5:19,30 John 7:16, John 12:49

    Thanks for your time
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Jim,

    You initiated a reply to me. I'm not sure how interested you are in my belief, but I am happy to dialogue with you as long as it is respectful and grounded in the truth of God's word, not man's opinion. You shared scripture which is great, I believe all the scripture you shared, but I don't believe your interpretation of it. I believe you have misinterpreted it and I can be very specific to the exact reasons why for each point if you are genuinely open to it. For the scripture you shared there is more scripture that says Jesus is God. He's not God the Father, but God the Son. I believe this, because the scripture says this, not because of feelings, bias, or agenda, but because it literally says Jesus is God in John 1:1. Do you believe John 1:1?

    Your comment began with a question not about the trinity as the Bible says in 1 John 5:7. But your question wasn't about what the Bible says in 1 John 5:7, but the word 'trinity'. Since we don't know each other I don't know your motive for saying that, but I can say that some others use it as a common straw man argument to deceive others in order to discredit Jesus. The word the "Bible" isn't in the Bible either, so is it not a Bible? The word used in 1 John 5:7 is the three are 'one', so if you can use that if you don't like the word trinity.

    John 1:1

    1 John 5:7

    Genesis 1:26

    Genesis 11:6-7

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    John 1:1

    Philippians 2:5-8

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    1 John 5:7

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 5:8

    1 John 2:22-24

    Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

    Matthew 1:23-25

    Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

    Isaiah 44:6 - Lord is King of Israel, Besides me there is no God.

    "Sons of God" isn't THE Son of God.

    Do you believe these verses?
  • Jim - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Adam

    I found your comments interesting. You mentioned the word trinity. Could you please show me where this word is used in the bible?

    You mentioned John 5:18. Jesus never said he was God. The Jews said he made himself equal with God. Jesus then goes on to explain his standing with God.

    Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

    You need to understand that our Lord Jesus is not the only Son of God. See Luke 3:38

    In John 10:33 Jesus was again accused with making himself God. How did Jesus respond?

    Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

    Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

    Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

    Jesus is directing them to Psalm 82. It is dealing with the rulers of the nation of Israel. They are called Gods.

    This idea "Sons of God" is used a number of times in the New Testament. Here are some of them.

    Joh_1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

    Rom_8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

    Php_2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

    Thanks for your time
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Donna,

    I don't believe we can just replace the word God for Jesus. I believe that uses of God in the Bible sometimes implies the trinity, but other times is used solely for God the father. I believe this is one of the common sources of confusion. Also, Jesus is Lord, and the use of the word Lord of the Old Testament sometimes seems to include God the father. I'm interested in anyone else's opinions on this. So, the three are one, the same, but also different. While this is hard for us simple humans to understand how much the same they are and how much different they are, it says it in the Bible and we must choose whether we want to trust and believe what it says.

    About the word begotten in John 3:16:

    I'd like to borrow from a Got Questions answer on this as I find them scripturally based most of the time. They say the original Greek word 'begotten' or (monogenes) has 2 meanings:

    1. The first definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship." Hebrews 11:17 like Abraham's son.

    2. The second definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind." See John 3:16, John 1:14, 18; 3:18; 1 John 4:9.

    Link

    Beware of anyone distorting the word to assume it means Jesus was 'created' later. This is not what it means. Scripture already debunks that in John 1:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6 (Jesus made all things), John 1:1 (Jesus was there in the beginning), John 5:18 (equal with His father), Jesus is the John 8:58, "I AM", Exodus 3:14, Revelation 1:8

    God bless...
  • THE GODHEAD scriptures - In Reply on Mark 12 - 3 years ago
    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

    All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

    Matthew 1:23

    Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. Jesus is all human and all God. Satan is a created being. He has no authority as a result from Jesus dying on the cross for The World.

    {Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

    [ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

    Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first.
  • Richard Priday - 3 years ago
    No one can come to the Father unless He draws Him first ( John 6:44). His sheep hear His voice ( John 10:27). I recommend that you read this book in particular to understand election. The god of this world has blinded the minds of men who don't believe ( 2 Cor. 4:4). Parables were hidden from the Pharisees; and only the Holy Spirit could reveal that Jesus was the Son of God ( Matthew 16:17). Once again the Father was the one who did the revealing.

    The only unforgiveable sin was blasphemy of the Holy Spirit ( Matthew 12:31-32). This related to people seeing Christ's miracles and attributing them to Beezlebub (or Satan). Most people would when they saw His miracles think that he was a prophet; or good man as Peter indicated the general response was earlier when Christ asked who men thought He was. This is much like looking at the Sermon on the Mount and all those who Christ declared blessed and thinking somehow a person could be virtuous by doing a bunch of good works alone. Many are called; few are chosen ( Matthew 22:14). Satan of course will do many signs and wonders in Revelation 13 through the false prophet to draw men to worship the Antichrist. There are many evil spirits that are deceiving men today. When Christ did miracles; he would ask people at times to go back to the leaders to confirm the healing was genuine and be officially declared "clean".

    Jesus asked the Pharisees which was harder; forgiving sins or healing ( Matthew 9:5). Jesus indeed did healings without preaching salvation many times; but he would say go and sin no more lest something worse happens to you to a man paralyzed most of his life ( John 5:14). This can be seen also with the woman about to be stoned ( John 8:11). In this; we can see that the Presence of the Holy Spirit Christ draws all men (that He has called and chosen) to Himself.

    This is also true in Acts; the Apostles didn't beg to get more converts; people said what must I do to be saved ( Acts 16:30).
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Brother Dan.

    I hear often how simple scripture is to understand bur yet the Bible is the most debated collection of books ever.

    Flesh is what Satan works with to confuse, that's why Jesus says John 8:43-47. also

    John 10:27. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

    They don't become his sheep by following him. They follow him "because they hear his voice " And he lay them down in green pasture. You'll see the results in fruit barring. Something the Law and those who desire to be under it cannot do.

    Jesus/truth is a stumblingblock unto them.

    Touching scripture Jesus says

    John 5:38-39.

    And the writer to the Hebrews-

    Hebrews 10:7. Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

    Jesus came to minister reconciliation by means of "GRACE by faith" to a lost and condemned world. This grace is emphasized all through scripture and climax at the cross.

    Romans 4:11.And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also.

    Hebrews 10:5-9. Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

    In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

    Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

    Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

    Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

    This is revealed in the heart of those who believe.

    Any message deviates from this reveals the blindness mentioned.

    God bless.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello, it sounds like you're looking for a severity scale of sin. Scriptures don't seem to distinguish much between severity of sin (aside from blasphemy of the holy ghost). All sin is very bad. God hates sin. Some may try to deceive us into thinking some 'aren't that bad', but that is just temptation and attempts to justify it. We can't really be a Jesus follower and make plans to commit sin either. That act shows someone isn't a genuine follower as evidenced by this verse: Hebrews 10:26. 1 John 5:17, 1 John 1:9, James 4:7. God bless.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Genesis 2:2-3 , Ezekiel 46:1, Mark 1:21, Mark 6:2, Luke 4:16, Luke 4:31, Luke 6:1, Luke 13:10,

    Isaiah 58:1-14, Exodus 20:8, Exodus 20:10-11,

    Exodus 31:13,14,16, Leviticus 16:31, Leviticus 19:3, Leviticus 19:30, Leviticus 23:1-8, Leviticus 24:8, Leviticus 25:2, Leviticus 25:4, Leviticus 25:17, Jeremiah 17:19-27, Lamentations 1:1-7, Isaiah 1:11-17, Isaiah 56:1-8, Ezekiel 20:12, Ezekiel 22:26,

    Amos 8:4-8, Mark 2:27,

    Matthew 12:8, Matthew 12:1-27, Mark 3:1-11, Luke 6:6-11, Luke 13:11-17, Luke 14:3-6, Luke 14:12-24, Luke 23:3-56, John 5:1-16, John 7:22-24,

    Colossians 2:8-17,

    James 2:1-26
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Margarita.

    Perhaps a few verses would be a start.

    Hopefully others can help.

    Proverbs 1:10-15.

    1 John 5:3.

    1 Timothy 4:1-2.

    James 4:7.

    1 Peter 5:7-8.

    Ephesians 6:10-18.

    Colossians 2:6-8 .

    1 John 2:15-16.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless you
  • The Godhead and The Church - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 3 years ago
    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

    All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

    Matthew 1:23

    Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. [Jesus]

    1 Corinthians 12:1-31 explains all the gifts, titled, administrations that God gives to the Church that Jesus has planted on earth Now.

    Those that He calls, he anoints for the work. Luke 4:18. The Bible says the gifts and callings are without revocation. If we try to operate without the Holy Spirits anointing; we will not bear good fruit. Can even become apostate.

    It's not something to treat carelessly. The Head of the Church is Jesus Christ. All parts of the Body are connected to Jesus.

    Jesus is High Priest, sitting at the right hand of God the Father in heaven now. He ministered (on earth) in all offices of Prophet, Teacher, The Good Shepherd (pastor) and Evangelist.

    An Apostle is one who has seen the risen Christ. And who operates in all 5 offices of ministry. All of Jesus's Disciples (except Judas Iscariot), became Apostles. Who are Church planters. I think missionaries most qualify as Apostles. (My opinion)

    Most important church people: are the praise and worship leaders. "Enter His Courts with Praise."
  • Seeking the Favor of God - In Reply - 3 years ago
    The favor of God can be described as "tangible evidence that a person has the approval of the Lord." When we favor someone, we want to be with him or her. We delight in him/her. We connect with him/her in a way we don't connect with everyone else. We usually favor people who also favor us. IN THE SAME WAY, God shows favor to the ones who delight in, connect with, and give honor to Him. Isaiah 66:2 says, "These are the ones I look on with favor: those who are humble and contrite in spirit, and who tremble at my word." 2 Chronicles 16:9 says, "For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong on behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him." To be "perfect" toward Him means we seek His favor more than we seek the favor of anyone else, even ourselves.

    Proverbs 8:35; "For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favor of the LORD."

    Psalms 5:12 "For thou, Lord, wilt bless the righteous; with favor wilt thou compass him as with a shield."

    Proverbs 3:4; "So shalt thou find favor and good understanding in the sight of God and man."

    Satisfy me Lord with favor and fill me with blessing in the name of Jesus!

    In the mighty name of Jesus, I claim...

    -help reading your Word, daily

    - divine wisdom from your Word

    - patience with my family

    - divine favor in family and business

    - prosperity, bless tithes and offerings

    -shield me from satanic attacks

    -help finding a better job, home

    - lend me angelic support

    - the release of finances

    Isaiah 26:3

    You keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you, because he trusts in you.

    Luke 13:11; John 5:5; Acts 10:38; Acts 3:2; Acts 4:9

    Speaking words of faith strengthen your spirit. Stay strong and you will be blessed for it.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on 2 Timothy 3 - 3 years ago
    Grace,

    If I may ask a few questions just on part one? Forgive me if I misunderstand the post. What scripture says the rest of the dead are unjust? You listed Daniel 12:2 and we also have John 5:28-29, Matthew 25:31-46, Acts 24:15, do we just overlook these? In the white throne judgement are not the books opened. "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire". Revelation 20:11-15. In this judgement of all nations there will be those that are told well done my faithful servant and those unworthy their reward, the lake of fire. This is my understanding.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • SquareHimself - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I was quoting Jesus in that case, who says that God is able to destroy both body and soul in hellfire. Matthew 10:28.

    The Bible teaches us two resurrections: one for the just, and one for the unjust. John 5:28-29. The righteous are resurrected at the second coming of Christ, and those who are alive and remain at His coming are given new bodies at that time. 1 Thess 4:13-17; 1 Cor 15:51-53. After the thousand years, the unjust are resurrected, and at that time they face their judgment, which is total annihilation (and not without suffering). Revelation 20:4.

    When Christ speaks of the worm that dies not, he is quoting from a passage in Isiaiah: Isaiah 66:24. This verse speaks of worms eating on the corpses of dead men. It is the worm that does not die, but the people are well dead, for they are merely corpses. There is no reason we should interpret worm here to mean "immortal soul," for there is no such thing. The soul that sins shall die: Ezekiel 18:4

    The word Jesus uses in Mark 9:44,46 is Gehenna, which was a place of refuse. They kept the piles of garbage there burning so that it would be consumed away. This is the illustration Jesus employed for the fires of hell: fires which burn up all the garbage and get rid of it.

    As for whether cessation from existence or eternal conscious torment are more terrifying to the wicked man... How many atheists have been made out of the doctrine of eternal conscious torment, which is not true? They reject God because they think He is a monster, when in reality He is not. How are we supposed to love God with all of our heart if He is more sadistic than the worst madman we can imagine? That's precisely why the devil loves this doctrine.

    Revelation 20:11-15 describes the wicked, as well as death and hell, being cast into the lake of fire. The lake of fire here is symbolic of total destruction. Death is being abolished, as well as the grave, as well as all the wicked and all sin.
  • SquareHimself - 3 years ago
    The Bible does not teach eternal conscious torment. The consistent testimony of scripture is that "the wages of sin is death," and not eternal life. Romans 6:23; Genesis 2:17; Ezekiel 18:30-32; 1 John 5:12. It was the devil who first taught that one could sin and still have eternal life. Genesis 3:4. Jesus came to save us from perishing, and to give us eternal life, not to save us from living forever. John 3:16.

    Hellfire is something that takes place at the end of this world, and not at death. John 5:28,29; Matthew 13:40. In it, soul and body are completely destroyed. Matthew 10:28; 2 Thess 1:9. It will consume the wicked into ashes. Revelation 20:9; Malachi 4:1-3; Psalm 37:20. Even the devil will be consumed to ashes. Ezekiel 28:18,19; Isaiah 47:14.

    In the new earth, when all sin has been eradicated, there will be no more suffering or pain or death. Revelation 21:4.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Donna,

    That's good that you are seeking the truth in the scriptures. You may consider praying and asking God for wisdom in regards to your questions.

    The topic of Jesus and God has been frequently discussed in these forums. You can probably find them by doing an advanced search for those keywords.

    If I understand one of your questions correct its if Jesus is God how why did He pray to Himself? And how can you be separate, but one at the same time? I think these questions conflate a few things. In our world we don't have anything similar to what is described in the Bible and try to make sense of it in human terms, but unfortunately in attempting to do so, often the truth of God's Word is then distorted and can turn into false teaching. Basically, I put my trust in God's word and believe what it says. I believe what it says instead of what a human being says. If someone preaches something other than what it says, I don't believe them.

    1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

    How "one" are they and how "three" are they? We don't know, but it says the three are one so I believe it. If a man says the "three are three" that is untrue, because that's not what Bible says. If a man says "only one is one" and the other two are not "one", that is also untrue, because that's not what the Bible says.

    Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image"

    "Let us" is plural, more than one.

    John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    "The Word was God."

    It says Jesus is the Word in verse 14, so the Bible says Jesus is God.

    If it says it then I choose to believe it, even though I don't 100% comprehend how the 3 is 1 and 1 is 3 simultaneously.

    Philippians 2:5-8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

    "form of"

    "equal with"
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Galatians 5 - 3 years ago
    Here are the scriptures I found concerning dead, in regards to The church.

    John 5:19-21,

    Early church was instructed

    Matthew 10:8, Matthew 10:1-42,

    Matthew 8:22, Mark 16:17-18,

    Leviticus 21:1-4,

    Leviticus 21:10-12,

    Numbers 5:1-3, Numbers 19:11-22

    Perhaps tradition started after early church hoping for miracle? Mark 7:6-9,

    Scripture concerning Apostles :

    Romans 1:1, Colossians 1:1, 1 Corinthians 1:1, 1Peter 1:1, 2Timothy 1:1, Galatians 1:1, 2 Corinthians 12:12,

    * 1 Corinthians 12:27-28, 1 Corinthians 12, in context*

    Additional Matthew 23:8-12, Matthew 23, in context

    Hopefully these are helpful


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