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But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all of Judea, and Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Acts 1:8

Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet?

Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.

Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part in me.

John 13:6-8

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Excepta man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

John 3:5

And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Phillip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

Acts 8:38

And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Phillip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

Acts 8:39

That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.

Ephesians 5:26

Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

Acts 10:47

But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

John 19:34

This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

1 John 5:6

In that day shall the branch of the LORD ne beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.

And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even ecery one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:

Isaiah 4:2-3

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Brother Jesse,

You state: "I don't believe there's any special formula for salvation other than surrendering to Christ and receiving His Spirit."

Respectfully, I think there is more to it than you expressed, and I believe Jesus does have "a special formula", and it is outlined throughout the bible. I say this so others will not take lightly their salvation, and hopefully they will study the scriptures on their own, to satisfy themselves that they are really following God's requirements "per the bible scripture."

John 3:5

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

John 3:16

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

1 John 5:3

"For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

John 14:21

"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

Jesus tells us that he will be our Judge, and he tells us what he will be looking for in us in order to enter into the Kingdom: Revelation 22:12-14

God Bless.

Ask God to help you make a comprehensive list of your sins.

Confess every sin that the Holy Spirit calls to your remembrance and accept God's forgiveness ( 1 John 1:9).

Seek forgiveness from all whom you have offended, and forgive all who have hurt you ( Mark 11:25; Luke 11:4; 17:3,4).

Make restitution as the Holy Spirit leads you.

Ask God to fill you with His Holy Spirit according to His command in Ephesians 5:18 and His promise in 1 John 5:14,15.

Surrender your life fully to Jesus Christ as your Lord and Master; refuse to obey your worldly nature ( Romans 12:1,2).

Meditate on the attributes of God, His love, sovereignty, power, wisdom, faithfulness, grace, compassion, and others ( Psalm 48:9,10; 103:1-8, 11-13).

Begin your time of fasting and prayer with an expectant heart ( Hebrews 11:6).

Do not underestimate spiritual opposition. Satan sometimes intensifies the natural battle between body and spirit ( Galatians 5:16,17).

If you're married with kids, you'll still need to care for them. Attend to your duties, then excuse yourself back to your "closet".

I fast from food and ALL MEDIA. The idea is fast from food, AND feast on the Word of God. Ask the Holy Spirit to shield you from interruptions, like phone calls, people who drop in unannounced or uninvited.

Have on hand, bouillon, fruit juice, lots of water. Jesus hungered after his fast. (he drank water.)

If you are diabetic or on serious meds, check your blood sugar if you feel bad. Dehydration will stop a fast.

Read the Gospels. Spend time in praise and worship. You can do this at work with headphones on. Whatever you do; no long faces. Bathe and dress normal.

Write Eph. 6 on a piece of paper and keep it before you. Don't tell anyone you're on fast. Just your husband. Satan will try to make you mad, feel unspiritual. Jesus used SCRIPTURE to counter attack satans attacks.

It's good to read aloud. We have gates: ears, eyes, mouth, a heart of joy. The Word goes in through all gates.

Part 2

When we die it is the same as when we sleep, we are not conscious, we are asleep in Jesus, Psalm 146:4 Ecclesiastes 9:5,10 we have no knowledge of our surroundings or time. This is the spirit that goes back to God who gave it. Ecclesiastes 12:7.

1 Thessalonians 4:14, when Jesus returns, this earth is round and those that are Christs will come from all over, and we see different places describing the gathering, Matthew 24:31, Mark 13:27, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 along with Jesus, God brings those that are Christs with Him, the second coming back to earth to set up the kingdom on earth. I understand those who believe in the rapture being carried to heaven will disagree.

Soul; Hebrew, nephesh, meaning a soul, living being animal or human, life, self, person, desire, passion, appetite, emotion. Greek psuch meaning, life, as the seat of affections and will, the self, the conscience, the individual. In our conscience that is in our soul is where the battle of the desires of the flesh and the Spirit. This is what remains asleep in the grave where ever the grave may be, awaiting resurrection when we put on immortality. Psalms 49:15 John 5:28-29

When are we absent from this body? 2 Corinthians 2:6-10 When do we appear at the judgment seat? 1 Thessalonians 2:19 1 Corinthians 15:22-23. When is a corn plant absent from its seed is it not when it springs forth from its grave of the earth? We are sown and until we are resurrected, being changed like the corn seed from corruption to incorruption, and this mortal puts on immortality being freed from this body of corruption, then we will be present with the Lord.

Sorry I got wordy I am sure not all will agree but that is ok this is just what I see.

God bless us all in the love of Jesus.

RLW

Brother Jesse, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Are not the BORN AGAIN to never see death?

Matthew 16:28 ....There be some standing here, which shall no taste of death, .....

John 5:24 ....but is passed from death unto life.

John 8:51 ....he shall never see death.

In the twinkling of an eye DEATH is swallowed up in VICTORY

Colossians 1:13 ....And hath TRANSLATED US into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Thank you again brother Carleton for those deep & engaging thoughts. Indeed, our whole attitude & presentation to all must be as seen in our Master. He knew all men & yet withheld Himself from using their devices of carnal attack & judgement. He always did the Will of His Father ( John 6:38), always replicating the Father's Words & Acts in His Life & Ministry ( John 5:19).

His powerful, yet succinct Words to us are, "to be wise as serpents, and harmless as doves" ( Matthew 10:16), for indeed, we as Christ's Church are in the "midst of wolves", & we are not to be ignorant of the evil one's devices in urging those wolves on & upon us. Yet, when under attack, & they come from a myriad of sources, our response needs to be one as was written of our High Priest: "One who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens" ( Hebrews 7:26). As even the apostle urged us, to "be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world" ( Philippians 2:15).

Our light can only truly shine when Christ's Light shines through us. If there's only a flicker, the world will never be moved, they remain in darkness & our flicker of light might even be extinguished. As the world sees us in full submission desiring only that the Lord's Name be lifted up, they might also see how Jesus submitted to His Father's Will going the full distance to the Cross for them. That joy & peace that was the Lord's continual possession even to enduring the Cross, must be our portion as well, even in manifold trials & exercises of faith - and thus we can always follow peace with all men. Every blessing brother.

Glen Barbour - in Reply on 2 Maccabees 7

Chris,

I am not catholic! However, what I was referring too is that these books are not listed in the bible (66 books). It was originally in the old KJV bible 1610, but was removed. I do not believe in purgatory and praying for the dead.

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Messenger Replies:

Please read Acts 24:15 We can pray to God ( Psalm 83:18) for his kingdom to come ( Matthew 6:9,10).

Why? because we can pray that he resurrect our loved ones who have died (the ones we love so dearly)

John 5:28,29

Job 14:14,15

John 11:25

How is the whole world lying in wickedness?

1 John 5:19

Revelation 12:7-12

2 Timothy 3:1-7

How can we Avoid Satan wicked influence

Luke 4

Matthew 6:9,13

1Timothy 2:8

Matthew 19:22,23

Matthew 22:37-39

From Messenger:

Hope these scripture helps

not my words. These words are free.

John 3:16,17

2 Timothy 3:16,17

Dianna Cole on John 7

why do we go through adversity

1 John 5:19

I hope this helps. Thanks

Ed on Hebrews 9

How do you get to heaven?

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Heaven:

Matthew 22:14

Revelation 14:3 144,000 (only taken from the earth Matthew 20:23)

1 Corinthians 15:42-44

Revelation 20 (Only one can be president and only a few

can be co-rulers. when Jehovah/ Psalm 83:18 choses a person...no one can steal that

away (not family, friends or acquaintances etc.). only that person can decide if they want to receive the invitation of reject it. Mark 10:17-31)

Earth: Isa. 45:18

2 Peter 3:13

Psalm 37:9-11,29,34

John 5:28,29

Revelation 21:3-5

Luke 23:42, 43 (Earth will be a paradise again

just like the days of genesis 1,2)

Matthew 11:26-30 (Jesus will comfort those remaining on earth)

Hope this helps

7 Excellent Rules for Knowledgeable Bible study!:

1) Let ALL things be done Decently and In Order! 1 Co 14:40

2) Study ALL Scripture Rightly Divided!:

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!" ( 2 Timothy 2:15)

3) Never add to or take away From God's Holy Word! Deu 4:2, Deu 12:32; Rev 22:18,19

4) Be noble students: These (in Berea) were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received The Word with all readiness of mind, and searched The Scriptures daily, Whether Those Things Were So! Acts 17:11

5) Build Sound Doctrine, God's Way!:

a) For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little! Isa 28:10

b) Find ALL Related Scriptures For A Specific doctrine!: ALL Scripture Is Given By Inspiration Of God, And Is Profitable For Doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto ALL good works! 2 Ti 3:16-17

c) Compare ALL Related Scriptures to learn and know a specific doctrine!: Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but Which The Holy Ghost Teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual! 1 Co 2:13 {Comparing Scripture With Scripture!}

6) The Best 'Interpretive' Commentary On The Bible Is: The BIBLE Itself! Never interpret the Plain Scriptures by the few difficult verses, but ALWAYS interpret the few obscure and difficult verses by ALL Of The Many Plain and Clear Passages Of God's Holy Word!

+ 1 Final Excellent Rule for Knowledgeable BIBLE study!:

7) In order to Honor The Father And The SON John 5:22-23, in Preparation For Judgment, Always keep in mind: Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do ALL to The Glory Of God! 1 Cor 10:31

And then we can ALL, in UNITY Of The Spirit... Eph 4:3: ...speak the things which become sound doctrine Tit 2:1 cp SAME mind And judgment 1 Co 1:9-10

Part 2.

Brother Chris,

The second question, first I do not believe anyone can deny the divinity of Jesus or His pre-existence of everything. ( Colossians 1:16) He was the beginning of creation and through Him, everything that is was created. The Son of God was with, from, and was the word of God.

I feel our mind with the preconceived ideas over the years, plugs our ears and blinds our eyes. It is like the word beginning when we see or hear the word beginning eternity pops in our head. It is like ( John 1:1-2). God has no beginning so, what is this beginning in John 1?

Scripture tells us God is from everlasting to everlasting, it tells us Jesus is the only begotten Son, the beginning of creation, but scripture does not tell us when or how he was begotten other than it was before creation and when He came in the flesh. Jesus is of God, and from God, the Son of God even the demons knew who He was and did not call Him God, ( Matthew 8:28) ( Mark 5:7) ( Luke 8:28).

In John 1, John is writing this after Jesus had ascended, in the beginning, is when the Messiah/Jesus first came, the beginning of His ministry, He was the word of God, the Word was God because it was from God, in Him was life and the light of men. John the Baptist was sent to be a witness of this light who was Jesus, and this light cometh to all in the world. It "shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not". As then the same today.

Jesus now was in the world that He made and they did not know him, He went to his own/Israel and they rejected Him. But as many that received Him became sons of God born again into the kingdom of God not of the will of the flesh but of the Father.

The word of God was made flesh, in scripture everything Jesus said or did was told to Him by God, ( John 5:30) Jesus was the word of God. In ( 1John 1:1-7) John's opening is similar to his opening in John 1, he is confirming John 1.

I hope this makes sense?

God bless,

RLW

Arnold B.,

Thanks for sharing & trusting us with your heart-felt information. I myself for several years found many movies very awkward & surprisingly inappropriate especially within family/friend settings. That may have more to do with our spiritual convictions, exposing the hidden evils & persuasions deeply enbedded. Maybe try game nights instead. Trips to beaches, parks, waterfalls, nature themed. Places you can let GOD's creation declare HIS goodness, while you speak the WORD.

Deuteronomy 6:7, Ephesians, 5:26, 2 Corinthians 4:17

Jesus also corrected John 5:14

Praying for you to have clear direction, discernment, wisdom & perseverance, hope & encouragement. I also pray their hearts will turn from things, words, actions & attitudes that displease the LORD & disrespect your faith, instead to things, attitudes, actions & conversations= that are pleasing to the LORD.

I have come to a place where understanding 'pure love casts out all fear' being love & trust in GOD. Hope this helps.

Hello, not sure if I'm understanding your view correctly, but it sounds like maybe you don't believe Jesus is God. I do understand people's different viewpoints around this, because God the Father is just referred to as God in many cases. For example, Son of God in the wording suggests that He's not God, but the Son. However, that isn't the whole picture- as there's so much Bible verses showing His divinity and it would be hard for anyone to deny that Jesus himself was called God and scripture says He was God in John 1:1.

1. Isaiah 7:14 - People called Jesus Immanuel which means "God with us"

2. John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."

3. John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."

4. John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

"Word WAS God."

5. Philippians 2:5 - 2:8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

"form of God"

"equal with God"

6. John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jesus made everything.

7. John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

8. John 20:28

"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

9. 1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

10. Genesis 1:26 - "And God said, Let us make man in our image"

"Let us make" - plural.

What I gather from this is they are different but the same. We will probably never 100% comprehend this until after this life. The Son is not the Father and the Father is not the Son, but it says they made everything together, are in each other, have similar form, they both have great power to do miracles, and both are referred to as God in the Bible.

Lily Mcallister on John 1

Is the Holy Spirit a person?

Jehovah's is a spirit ( Psalm 83:18; John 4:24). and he made his Angels spirits ( psalm 104:4);

and he blew his spirit into Adam nostril "the breath of life." when a men or human dies, his breath goes out. and the spirit returns to God (not the flesh itself.. because the body is flesh made from dust - Genesis 2:7).

the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, these qualities is his spirit. this he has created men in his image to display these qualities to take care of the earth. -

Galatians 5:22,23

According to Matthew 28:18-20 Jesus said go therefore baptizing in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit (the accurate term is holy spirit because John 4:24 accurately says spirit). Also, Jesus is not God ( John 5:19) but he was raised up as a spirit again; and he is a Angel.- John 14:28

Point: God can give his spirit to anyone to serve his purpose- Luke 1:35. if we worship God, we must worship with spirit and truth- john 4:24. anyone who want to worship in truth...should believe in the word of God ( 2 Timothy 3:16,17). by this God will give his spirit and truth will speak.

To illustrate: person 1, person 2, and person 3 are all different people. God will and can give his spirit to person 2 to carry out a particular task. God may want person 2 to completes that task fully. he may use person 3 or person 1 to do something completely different or accomplish the same purpose. (so yes the spirit basically belongs to God, because he is a spirit and the source of distributing that spirit to accomplish his purpose.- Genesis 1:1,26,27 ). no human can force God to do this or that. he is the boss of the spirit.- Isaiah 43:11-13

hope these scriptures help.

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Regarding your question about Death? Some Reasons

1. Genesis 3; 2 Samuel 11; 2 Timothy 3:1-7

2. Ecclesiastes 9:1-12 (Chance OR accidents)

3. Matthew 24:6-12 etc.

Hope:

John 5:28,29

John 3:16,17

Revelation 21:3-5

Brother Chris, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE BODY and ONE SPIRIT .....

Christ, (which is, and which was, and which is to come Revelation 1:8); IS, the ONLY ONE BODY. The VESSEL of the ONLY ONE SPIRIT. We (the firstfruits of SPIRIT)( 1 Corinthians 15:23)( Romans 8:23) become the BODY OF CHRIST ( 1 Timothy 6:16)( 1 Corinthians 15:52-55).

The SPIRIT (the source of POWER) provides ALL, the BODY does all the LABOUR. Christ has everything needed at his disposal at all times; but the SPIRIT ONLY releases it (the power)to THE BODY at the given moment it is required. I am not saying that Christ IS NOT GOD, because HE IS; it takes both (faith and labour)( James 2:17) to be GOD, SPIRIT (the SOURCE) and THE BODY (the LABOUR).

Everything is done by SPIRIT (the WORKS of the FATHER) THROUGH (the labour) of the SON.

Christ emptied HIMSELF of the Father's glory ( John 17:5) that he had with him since the beginning, and became sinful flesh, to be destroyed.

He does't know in advance the second coming, because he is given what is required, as it is required ( John 5:19)( John 5:30), just as we are ( John 15:5). We are being created like him A VESSEL OF THE SPIRIT ( Revelation 10:11).

1 Corinthians 15:28 When ALL THINGS shall be SUBJECTED to him, then shall the Son ALSO HIMSELF be SUBJECT to him (the source of power) that put all things under him that GOD (Spirit, Truth, Life) may be ALL IN ALL.

Hebrews 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put ALL in subjection under him, he left nothing that IS NOT PUT under him, But we see NOT YET (but we will see; at the resurrection of the dead) ALL THINGS put under him.

Obadiah 1:21 And SAVIOURS ( John 17:21) shall come upon mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau (the world); and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.

Isaiah 26:9 ....when thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Jesus is God. He's part of the Godhead. Romans chapter 1. When he was being tried by the Pharisees, He said: I and my Father are one.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us" in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

Jesus is returning sooner than we all think. Matthew 24 and Luke 21 give us specific signs to watch for. They will increase near the end of days

Something else...this world we call home is going to pass away. We know that it's going to end and be renewed to what God created in Genesis. Before we polluted it and destroyed it with greed and technology. 2 PETER CHAPTER 3.

No sense in trying to save it now as Biden dreams he can with boatloads of tax money. God promised never to flood the World again. But it is going to burn up. It already is beginning. See, beloved children, IT IS NOT GLOBAL WARMING. The earth is responding to the WORD OF GOD.

It's coming apart now: forest fires, worldwide droughts, polluted ground water from human belligerence; continent sized floating islands of garbage in both hemispheres. Earthquakes and Volcanos, floods: with increasing intensity. FAULTS once thought long dead will become active. As the end wars are fought, we'll see space objects hit earth, our cities. Food will be used against us to force us to take THE MARK OF THE BEAST, ANTICHRIST. One world currency will be forced on us next. One world religion. Individuality, no more.

Take the Mark=DEATH

Take Jesus=LIFE ETERNAL

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

* Romans 1:20*

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. [Jesus]

{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to baptize us, Teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first. Learn fully who the Son of Man is (Jesus).

Hi Brother Chris,

Thank you for taking your time to respond, and I appreciate your comments, and related scripture.

You stated: "If anyone believes that the keeping of the Law is necessary to be saved, or that both the Cross & strict obedience to the Law is required to be saved, then a clear problem exists."

What is your definition of strict obedience of the law? Is trying our best to adhere to God's 10 commandments too strict? Jesus asks us to keep the commandments. John 14:15. The apostles strived to kept the commandments 1John 5:3. I believe that as good Christians we must also strive to keep God's commandments and in doing so, will help us, to produce the good works that are acceptable to God.

So, I believe that with our Faith, we will be blessed with Grace, and it should lead us toward obedience to God. I believe we agree on this. Where we may disagree is: Faith alone will not assure being saved. Many Christians today believe they can say they have faith and believe, but continue to live in their worldly sin, and they still expect that they will inherit the kingdom of God.

I believe, Jesus says otherwise in scripture, and here again emphasizes keeping the commandments, and producing good work if wanting to enter the kingdom of heaven.

Revelation 12:12-14

12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Brother Chris, you and I will not be the judge, Jesus will be, and he is telling us right here in scripture plainly, what is required of us, to gain entry in through the gates into the city! In essence, we have the Judge telling us before he judges us - what he will be looking for in us!

Peace, and God Bless.

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The wild beast here at revelation 13 is identifying two beast. (is a Man's number #666...1 John 5:19)

It speaks like a dragon (Satan the Devil is liken to a dragon Revelation 12:7-12.

The Devil and his demons tells lies.- Genesis 3- John 8:44; Matthew 4:1-11.

but believes and shudders- mark 1:23-26; James 2:19 )

Satan Gives this wild beast power, a seat (throne), great authority on the earth. this beast is fatally wounded, mortal wounds (Wars/Billions slaughtered).it speaks great things and blasphemies. (speaks against God, blaspheme his name. (Through the centuries bible translations has taken out God's name. "not this king James". those who translated the bible were not ordinary men but "religious leaders"- Psalm 83:18)

This wild beast was permitted to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them.

( Example:70 C.E Destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans. Hitler Germany concentration camp

slaughter holy ones from 1933 to 1945 etc. Religious leaders supported him and walked with Hitler holding up arms with him) has authority over every tribe, and people, and tongue,

and nation.

This wild beat descends out of the earth;

tells others to make an image. (what images can you think of?)

Those who refuse to worship this image to the wild beast is killed.

who are mislead by this man (#666 mark/more then one man) influenced by Satan the devil?

and who is mislead to worship and bow to this image?

All people (Follows the wild beast or with admiration, worships it)

1. The rich

2. The poor

3. The free

4. The slaves

This wild beast (This Man, a PERSON, He/This mark 666 has authority.

any man who had or has this mark) buys and sells

( Luke 4:6 This Wild beast is very rich from those worshiping and admiring him)

Hope this helps

"Let us create make Men in our Image"- Genesis 1:26

He was talking to his son (Jesus Christ/Earthly Name- Luke 1:31. Michael The arch Angel/Heavenly Name Rev.12:7-12)

John 1:1-3 (Jesus Never called himself A God. But gave all Glory to his Father in heaven.- John 5:19; John 17; Matthew 22:37; Psalms 83:18)

Read Colossians 1:15-17

Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy (Your) face shalt (should) thou eat bread, till thou (You) return unto (to) the ground; for out of it wast (was) thou taken (taken): for dust thou (you) art (be or are), and unto (to) dust shalt thou return. (Dust you should/shall Return)

So the Dead returns to Dust. But again Jesus will judge the Dead. And resurrect the Dead. Back to their original human self. Back here on earth. John 5:28,29; 2 Peter 3:13; Revelation 21:3-5

Hope this helps

Shellon Hooten,

Revelation is hard, for one, it is not in chronological order, and not all has been revealed to us. Pray and keep in mind there are answers we may never be given. At this time there have been 3.5 years of tribulation by Satan, the beast, the false prophet, and the great whore Babylon, and Babylon was just destroyed by the ten kings/countries of the beast. ( Revelation 17, 18).

These same ten kings/kingdoms/countries will make war with Jesus, ( Revelation 17:14). They were rejoicing in heaven and "his wife hath made herself ready" and "Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb" ( Revelation 19:1-10).

In ( Revelation 19:11-21) we see Jesus coming with his armies, ( Matthew 25:31) that were in heaven, and the call to the fowls to gather to the supper of the great God. ( Ezekiel 39: 17-20) There are more scriptures on the coming of Jesus, ( Matthew 24: 29-31) ( Mark 13:24-27) ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17), and more. The beast and false prophet are cast into the lake of fire and the remnant of the armies are destroyed by the sword proceeding out of the mouth of Jesus. The power of His word wiped them out.

Then in Revelation 20, Satan is locked in the bottomless pit, to be there for one thousand years, and Jesus sets up His Kingdom and the camp of the saints. So scripture tells us when Jesus returns with all His holy angels/armies, He sends angels to gather His elect. Who are in this first resurrection? The description of them is in ( Revelation 20:4). Are they all that will be saved? Are they the most loyal elect that is given this honor? The key is the white throne judgment, is it only for the lost as taught? Why is the book of life opened ( Revelation 20:12)? Should we not consider ( Matthew 25:31-46) ( John 5:28-29) ( Acts 24:15). Do we overlook ( Revelation 20:15)?

I know this does not answer your question, if it can be answered, but may it inspire study.

God bless,

RLW

Yes, Jehovah ( psalm 83:18) prophesied or was revealing to Isaiah about Cyrus ( Isaiah 44:28)

he (King of Persia) helped rebuild Jerusalem ( Daniel 10:1). yes, if a prophecy hasn't yet happened... it will happen; and it will be fulfilled and accomplished. ( Isaiah 46:10,11)

Fulfilled Prophecy:

Destruction of Jerusalem 70 c.e ( Luke 21:5,6; John 4:21)

Unfulfilled Prophecy:

Revelation 18&20 ( 1John 5:19; Revelation 12:7-12)

Revelation 21:3-4

Revelation 22 ( Matthew 24:14; Daniel 2:44)

Hope this helps

Come get everlasting life! Read, learn, and pray to apply!

John 17:3

And this is life eternal (everlasting), that they might know thee (you) the only true God (* Psalm 83:18), and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast (you have) sent. ( Luke 1:30-35; Matthew 1:21-24; John 5:19; John 17:5)

*In the King James translation:

Psalm 83:18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. ( John 4:24; Exodus 6:2,3)

Revelation was written and represented in signs. meaning using people, persons (Warning examples of wicked people and their actions) to describe the message. for example, according to Revelations 6:1-8:

1.The Red Horse: Peace taken from the earth.. They will slaughter one another (Civil wars, the deadly war WWI & WWII etc.)

2. The Black Horse: (Famine The Great depression etc.)

3. The pale Horse: Deadly plague...The Grave/Death ( 1918 influenza pandemic, HIV, Flu, Common cold,

Covid-19,Delta variant etc.)

Why is the world in critical condition?

Satan was hurled down from heaven and is misleading nations rulers and kings:

1 John 5:19; Genesis 3; Genesis chapter 6 and 9;

Luke and Matthew 4; Ephesians 6:11-13; Revelation 12:7-12;

2 Corinthians 4:4

What is the result of Satan the devil's influence:

2 Timothy 3:1-7

Matthew 24

1 Corinthians 6:9,10; Ephesians 5:5

What will Jesus do since his father gave him all authority?

( Matthew 24:14;28:18-20)

1. Revelation 11:15;20 Chapter

2. Revelation 11:18

3. John 5:28,29; Revelation 21:3-5;22 Chapter

Who is law for?

1 Timothy 1:8-10

2 Timothy 3:16,17

john 17:3

Righteous Judgment

** John 7:24 **

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

2 Thessalonians 1:5

Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

Romans 2:5

But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

1 John 3:7

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

Ezekiel 3:21

Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

Matthew 10:41

He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

Matthew 23:28

Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

John 5:22

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Once I got busted by Jesus for judging. We were street ministering; and all the Catholics would drive by the Catholic Church, tip their beers and holler out the priests names. honk the horn at us :/

The Holy Spirit leaned on me and said quietly but no nonsense..DO NOT JUDGE !

All you can do is fall down and say YESSIR!!!

(cont) in the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts of the Bible. Agape is a higher form of unconditional, Godly love and philia is a lesser form used for friendship or brotherly love. The ignorant criticize the KJV translators for translating "agape" simply as love. The truth is the Greek words agapao/agape and phileo/philia overlap in the manuscripts, and there's no discernible difference between the two in the Scripture. For example, 2 Samuel 13:15 says, "Then Amnon hated her exceedingly; so that the hatred wherewith he hated her was greater than the love wherewith he had loved her. And Amnon said unto her, Arise, be gone." The problem is that both agapao and the cognate agape can refer to Amnon's incestuous rape of his half sister Tamar. Also, backslidden Demas who loves the world with agape love. "For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica;" 2 Timothy 4:10. There's John 3:35 that says, "The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand,"; later John 5:20 says, "For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth." The Father's love for the Son, which is without question the greatest love, is described as "agape love" in one instance and "phileo love" in the other, and by the same author, John. Houston, we have a problem. The point is there isn't a way to know what kind of love each of these Greek words is referring to in Scripture. Context is key. Bottom line, the Bible's been translated into English, and the 47 translators of the King James Bible did an inerrant, infallible job. You and today's scholars and translators, not so much. Knowing Greek is fine for reading and understanding Greek myths and literature, but not for reading and understanding Scripture, which is God's written word. One thing more, I don't care that you consult the Greek to study your Bible, but I do care when you imply or suggest that it's better to defer to the Greek to know the truth of Scripture.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. [Jesus]

{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3,

John 16:7-15]

Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to baptize us, Teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first.

CAUTION: the phrase 'God the Grandson' is NOT in the KJV Bible.