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Yes, this has been discussed before. There are those who believe Jesus is God, and those who don't. I know where you stand, and you know where I stand. I'm glad to know that you also disagree with both the Mormon and JW's view on who Jesus is. Many cult groups deny the deity of Jesus Christ, and also deny that He is God.
I wasn't speaking about the trinity although I believe in a Triune God. This comes mainly from Colossians 2:9. I'm not sure if there's a clearer statement than that! In Christ dwells all the fullness of the Godhead, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, in bodily form! In 1 John 5:20, there are two great statements of fact; Jesus Christ is the true God, and He is the eternal life!
I didn't know that today in Christianity, salvation is dependent on the belief in the Trinity doctrine. I stand with you when I say that I don't believe that is a requirement for salvation. The bible teaches that salvation is obtained by surrendering one's life to Jesus Christ and being born from above.
Your questions are fair and might challenge someone to question their belief as Jesus being God. A fair question was also asked in Mark 2:5-8. To a man who was sick of the palsy, Jesus said, "thy sins be forgiven thee." For that, the scribes accused Jesus of blasphemy. Their question was "Who can forgive sins but God only?" Good question! God is the only one who can forgive sins, so why is this man (Jesus) committing blasphemy?
This is not the first time He was accused of blasphemy. He was accused of blasphemy for making Himself equal with God, claiming to be the Son of God, which to those who heard Him, they understood very well that the phrase "Son of God" was the same as claiming to be God. So, they had every right to accuse Him of blasphemy, unless of course Jesus was (and is) God, which I believe He is!
Ronald, thank you so much for reading my original 2-part post, and thank you for sharing your belief on this important topic. Blessings to you also!
"But the importance is that everybody must settle it in their own hearts and minds about who Jesus is." So true. This has been discussed I think most know my understanding on this.
Was He just a great man? 1 Timothy 2:5 Numbers 23:19 1 Hosea 11:19 Corinthians 15:21-22 Was He just a great teacher? John 3:2 Was He a great healer? Luke 4:18-19 Was He a prophet? Deuteronomy 18:18 Was He the brother of Satan? No, He is the only begotten Son, John 3:16 1 John 4:14. Was He Michael the archangel? No, Hebrews 1:5. Or was He God in the flesh? 1 Timothy 3:16 manifest, (make clear, make known) John 5:19. Did Peter give the right answer? Yes.
This doctrine was developed almost 400 years after Jesus's crucifixion, today in Christianity salvation is dependent on the belief in the Trinity doctrine. If that is true. Why is it not taught anywhere in the New Testament?
If Jesus is God why would God have to anoint Him with His Spirit? Did Jesus do the works and the miracles or did God the Father by His Spirit/Holy Spirit? Is salvation at the mercy of the belief in the Trinity doctrine? Did Jesus say the Father was His God? Could God fulfill the law that was made for man? Did God give Himself or His Son that we would not perish? If we say Jesus is God, do we deny the Son?
Jesus said this, John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Acts 4:12 God bless,
RLW
Jesus will continue to answer in the next verse by reiterating the first of His three shepherding-related analogies from this chapter. This puts His answer in plain terms: I already told you who I was, but you're not going to listen.
(Part 1 of 2):
Thank you for sharing your understanding on this topic. I always enjoy my discussions with you. We are in agreement that God is love. In fact, God is Agape, the highest form of love that exists. We are in agreement that God does not have pleasure in the death of the wicked. That's why He has provided a way for the wicked to be redeemed. We are in agreement that God does not want us to perish. Some take this word perish to mean cease to exist completely. Some teach annihilation. That, I do not agree with. I also don't agree that Hell is only the grave because both believers and non-believers alike are going to end up in a grave (unless the Lord comes for us first).
I agree that the bible tells in Ezekiel Chapter 18 that the soul that sinneth shall die. I believe it is the soul that makes up our entire being. Can our fleshly body exist without a soul? As far as salvation goes, did Christ come to redeem our flesh, or did He come to redeem our soul? I say that my soul has been redeemed, not my flesh. My flesh is rotten to the core! I agree that there are different degrees of punishment, but as you know, I also believe that whatever the degree of punishment is, it will be forever.
In my studies of the Greek, I have come to learn that the word for death means separation. This is why I believe that when our physical body of flesh dies, our soul will separate from our fleshly body. The body will rot and decay in the grave, not cease to exist as some say. I do not believe in soul sleep.
I do agree with you that eternal life is a promise. However, what we differ on is when this eternal life begins. For me, I believe I have eternal life right now. There are several verses in scripture that speak of eternal life/salvation being present tense (1 John 5:11, 1 John 5:13, John 17:3, John 10:28-30, John 3:36, John 4:14, 1 Timothy 6:12). These are just some verses that speak of eternal salvation being present, not future.
Part 2 to follow...
Jesus never said if you love me keep Moses' commandments. Nope, keep his commandments. The ten commandments are grevious Jesus' aren't. Jesus' commandments 100% conditional love.
John 14:15] If ye love me, keep my commandments.
[16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
21] He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
1st John 5:[2] By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
[3] For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Rev 22:14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
[15] For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
What are Jesus' commandments?
1) Sin not
2) Be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect
3) Love one another as I have loved you
4) Matthew 5:3-48.
Jesus never endorsed Moses' ministry. He laid down the new foundation in Matthew 5.
Matthew 19:[8] He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
9] And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
The commandments of Jesus the law of spirit and life which sets us free from the law of Moses sin and death.
1st John 3:[8] He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God
If Jesus told you: "Sin no more.You would answer him by saying, "I can't."Or "I don't believe you."Or "No one is able to stop sinning except you.""???
Matthew 3: 1 At that time John the Baptist appeared, preaching in the wilderness of Judea.
2 He said,Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say,Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Your just calling Jesus a liar when you claim you can not stop sinning as sin is ungodliness it is of the devil 1st John 3:8. Do you think the grace of God came so that we can still live like bastard children of the devil and no change in our life? God forbid. No sinner can make heaven unless thry repent abd give it up.
Titus 2:11] For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
[12] Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
[13] Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
[14] Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Jesus never died to make a new type of sinner? Called a Christian sinner? he died so that we can be free from the devil we can be holy, rightous, santified, perfect, ready to meet him.
Without JESUS it is IMPOSSIBLE to exist peace not only in the Jerusalem, but in the nation of Israel as a whole. By the way, the Holy City, where also our Lord was crucified, is now spiritually called Sodom and Egypt. You know that JESUS prophesied the Temple would be destroyed, saying: "There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down"- Matthew 24:2- , and it LITERALLY fulfilled in the year 70AD, and Israel was scattered around the world until 1948, i.e.1878 years of severe punishments and curses in LITERAL fulfilment of Deusteronomy 28:15-68, 53 verses of terrible chastisements-Take a look. The dispersed people of Israel have never had peace in the last two millennia. And NOW? The WORST will come now, even now, from now on, because the Day of Vengeance arrived, understand? 2Thes.1:7-9; combined with Matthew 24:15-25.
7 ... the Lord JESUS shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, (angels? Luke 20:35-36.Take a look)
8 In flaming FIRE taking VENGEANCE on them that know not GOD, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord JESUS Christ:
9 Who shall be PUNISHED with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power;
Remember: Pilatos asked to the Jews: John 18:39-40
39 Ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover: will ye therefore that I release unto you the KING of the JEWS?
40 Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber.
JESUS said: John 5:43-I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER shall come in his own name(an IMPOSTOR, a FALSE MESSIAH), him ye will receive. (This prophecy of our Lord JESUS will LITERALLY be fulfilled in days ahead)
2 Do ye know that the saints shall Judge the world?
Re.1:7 Behold,JESUS cometh with clouds( Acts 1:9-11-take a look)and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen.
Of course, I do not mind, you have always treated me with respect and care.
What John 11:25-26 means to me. Jesus is the resurrection, His perfect life when He died on the cross and was buried in a tomb death could not hold Him. To me, it is the gospel, the simplicity of Jesus Christ, the message of salvation, and our hope in eternal life. Even if we die, we who believe in Jesus Christ will live as we see in John 5:29 the resurrection of life.
We sleep in death, but we have the promise of eternal life, we will never die. Those of the wicked and lost will face the second death, the permanent death of no return. As Jesus asked Martha do you believe this, regardless of what we face and the struggles and doubts we have in this world we go through in this fleshly body, all of our hope and trust must be in Jesus, who is the truth, the light, and what He said will come to be.
God bless,
RLW
(Part 2):
In Luke 16:19-31, we read about the rich man and Lazarus. What I notice is that they both died. It speaks of the rich man being in Hades, and being in torment. What is interesting if you read through that section, the rich man can feel, he can speak, he can see, he can remember, and he is in torment. Notice in Verse 26 that there is a great gulf fixed and no one is able to cross over from one side to the other. There is no hope for those on the opposite side of Abraham's bosom. The question here is, why didn't the rich man cease to exist when he died?
In Mark 9:43-47, even though this is not literally talking about plucking your eye out or cutting off your hand, it does speak of some entering into life, and some being cast into Hell. If the wicked one who has rejected Christ dies and ceases to exist, how can he be cast into Hell?
In Revelation 20:5, it tells us that the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. Obviously, there must have been a previous resurrection because this talks about the rest of the dead not being resurrected until after the 1,000-year reign. How can those who cease to exist be resurrected? How do you raise or resurrect something that does not exist?
John 5:29 says, "And come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment." Again, how do you resurrect and judge someone that does not exist?
Again, in Luke 16:28, the rich man says, "For I have five brothers, so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment." This rich man is in a place of torment. He did not cease to exist when he died. Why not?
I just have a few more questions if you don't mind, so I will need one more post.
Genesis 2:1-3
1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished,and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh Day GOD ended his work which he had made;and he rested on the seventh Day from all his work which he had made.3 And GOD blessed the seventh Day,and sanctified it:because that in it GOD had rested from all His work which GOD created and made.
In fact,in the beginning,i.e. in JESUS was the Word,the Word is GOD,understand?And by/through JESUS all things created by GOD the Father were made by JESUS;and without JESUS was not any thing made that was made,understand?
On the other hand, when GOD planned to restore or restitution ALL THINGS in six Days- Acts 3:20-21-, and to rest in the seventh Day, in fact ALL THINS which GOD described in His plan- Genesis 1- He called those things which were not as though they were. GOD is Omnipotent, Ominscient and Ominpresent.When GOD said in to rest in the seventh Day, He was speaking and revealing of His rest in this CURRENT MILLENNIUM,that is the seventh and last millennium or seventh and last Day.
For your better understanding, you must remember that JESUS,the Greater Light, was sent by GOD the Father around 4000 years after Adam,or around 2000 years ago.In fact it still was the fourth Day, understand? GOD,the Father,was still WORKING when He sent JESUS here,understand?Even my Lord JESUS said and revealed that the Father still was working- John 5:17:
JESUS said still in the fourth Day:My Father worketh hitherto,and I work.In fact,the sixth Day has just ended,we have just entered the seventh and last Day,we are living in the beginning of the last millennium,the blessed seventh and last Day of the rest of GOD the Father.From now on JESUS takes command of the Universe
Be careful and get ready.From Adam until JESUS passed around 4000 years
From JESUS until this current time have passed around 2000 years.The sixth GOD's Day just finished.We are living exactly the turn of the sixth to the seventh Day.
Get ready
You wrote: "Until we draw the last breath , we must battle. And, the battle is ourselves!"
But the battle is not ourselves only, "but against the wiles of the Devil, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, wherefore take unto you the whole armour of GOD, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand- Ephesians 6:11-13".
Revelation 16:13-15
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs(why frogs?) come out of the MOUTH of the dragon, and out of the MOUTH of the Beast(Beast of sea- Revelation 13:1-10), and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet (the false messiah, FALSE LAMB- Revelation 13:11- AN IMPOSTOR- John 5:43-47. Take a look.)
14 For they are the spirits of devils (a saatanic trinity), working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great Day of GOD Almighty (that is the Lord's Day, the seventh nd last Day or seventh and last millennium, the current millennium).
15 Behold, I come as a thief.
Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Daniel 12:12 - Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Daniel 12:10 - Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Galatians 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,.."
God was not Superman to come as a human being he sent his Son Jesus John 3:16. If Jesus was God he sure is the weakest one I ever read as Jesus can do nothing by himself without the spirit of God his Father in him. John 5:30
John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
No man can see God's face at anytime as people will die. Moses can never see God's face and neither can we, we only have the Son of God as an example who God his Father really is. Jesus preached God is a spirit John 4:24. Jesus never said that he was God in the whatever and if so nobody would be able to see his face.
John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Exodus 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
Jesus fulfilled the law, which means he died and did everything that was written of him to do. The testimony of two m((en)) is true John 8:7 and not one m((an)). God was not Superman to become flesh, it was his Son as all the prophets of old knew that God had a son.
Daniel 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
God never left his throne he sent his Son Jesus and not himself Romans 8:3.
The apostle Paul just like me is an ex-sinner saved by grace Romans 6:18. If nobody can be free from sin, Jesus died for nothing. The Bible makes it clear God does not hear the prayers uttered by sinners John 9:31.
Romans 6:16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
[17] But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
[18] Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Romans 5:19] For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
[20] Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
[21] That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
The apostle Paul was free from sin after he was saved, Peter, John, James, etc. All ex-sinners as they knew that sin is deceitful and only brings death. Why sin? Why walk in sickness, darkness, and death?
1st John 1:[6] If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness ((sin)), we lie, and do not the truth:
[7] But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
In the Parable of the Rich Fool he addresses his soul and it is his other self, sum total of his worth in a figurative sense . This soul is different from inner man. If soul is as true with a carnal man, so with a spiritual man. His soul is the presence and it is in this sense the Spirit has built up the relationship of David and Jonathan. First from the parable,"And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? ( Luke 12:19-20)."With death who shall collect all that he stored? Not he that is for sure. He knew how to make wealth but when his soul proved to be worthless we need understand soul of a carnal man is worthless signifying it was only as good as his body had his being. Eyes are the window of one soul which is only the sound and fury one can perceive,- but does it add up? Such was the rich fool as the Bard would say, and he told a story as long as he walked with his heavy tread of wealth, but it was a tale at the end signifying nothing.
And David fled from Naioth in Ramah, and came and said before Jonathan, What have I done? what is mine iniquity? and what is my sin before thy father, that he seeketh my life?/2And he said unto him, God forbid; thou shalt not die.".
Jonathan was certain that his father shall not do anything without first telling him. It helps us recall the words of Jesus,""Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise( John 5:19)". When we speak of Christ living in us by faith our soul is that presence and it strengthens our our inner man every time we do things in obedience to his words so our soul is his presence irradiating inner man. It is like the face of Moses (Ex.34:29).
Truth writ in our inwards makes both worlds of the flesh and of the Spirit as one in relation to the word. Thus testimony of Jesus Christ in the inaugural vision is both father and the Son as one. Whereas the night vision that the Spirit revealed to Daniel in Ch.7 we have the Ancient of days and the one in the likeness of the Son separately. From the above how do we consider our body? Only present in the world of the flesh or both worlds as one, having to give confession before the eternal word? Heresies are brought by Satan who is spirit but unclean since he puts himself out side the Law. Without the Son man is lost. Without abiding in him by faith all works are froth. "He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him."( John 5:23--NKJV)
"And lead me in the way everlasting" The eternal word assures eternal life for those who have the Son abiding in them'. "I am the Way the truth and the life" Death of the body merely changes the order of two worlds so the world of the Spirit which were unseen stands before the risen Lord savior which is of heaven."And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly."(1 Co.15:49)
You asked me: Was the vision of Daniel fulfilled literally?
Many of Daniel's prophecies were literally fulfilled until this current time, of course, i.e. by a period around 2550 years. All that remains is to fulfill the last events, of which JESUS highlighted Daniel 12 in Matthew 24:15, understand?
And around 65 years after His ascention, JESUS broke the 7 seals of the secret book of Apocalypse, and in chapter 13 described the fulfillment of Daniel's prophecies exactly for this current time about two MAN Beasts, i.e. the MAN Beast of the sea-Re.13:1-10 and the MAN Beast of the earth having two horns like a LAMB, a FALSE LAMB, course, a false messiah, and he speaks as a dragon-Re.13:11-18,
and behold, it is already running to LITERALLY be fulfilled as a whole from now on, for sure, what Daniel prophesied millennia ago.
By the way, JESUS revealed-Re.16:13-15-and according verse 13 John "saw three unclean spirits like frogs(why frogs?)come out of the MOUTH of the dragon(Re.12:3-4&13:11),
and out of the MOUTH of the Beast(the Beast of sea),
and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet(who will manifest himself as messiah very soon), even in days to come in fulfillment of what JESUS prophesied- John 5:43-47. Get ready.
Verse 14 - For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of this great Day of GOD Almighty(the Lord's Day).
Verse 15 - JESUS warned: Behold, I come as a thief...
Therefore, get ready
You quoted Rev.13:1-2:
I see that John,the Apostle,as a Jewish citzen,one among the"sand' of the sea-i.e.descendants of Abraham,saw a Beast rise up out of the sea(rose up out of the Gentile peoples/nations- Revelation 17:15),having seven heads and ten horns,and upon his horns ten crowns,and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.What's name? Revelation 13:18 says:Here is wisdom.Let him that has understanding COUNT the number of the Beast:for it is the number of a MAN;and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
/And the Beast which I saw was like unto a LEOPARD,and his feet were as the feet of a BEAR,and his mouth as the mouth of a LION:and the dragon( Revelation 13:11)gave him his Power,and his Seat(in Jerusalem),and great Authority.(In this verse 2 is revealed the ROOTS/THE ORIGIN of the Beast of sea for those who looking back in time,even from when John saw the Apocalypse and we also see from these current days,but Daniel in His vision of the future Beast of sea he wrote that he saw 4 great Beasts that came up from the SEA(from Gentile nations),diverse one from another,as follow:
The 1st was like a LION,
and the 2nd Beast like to a BEAR,
after this I beheld the 3rd like a LEOPARD;(John and we,looking back,we see 1st leopard,2nd bear, and 3rd lion-Rev.13:2)
and behold a 4th Beast,dreadful and terrible,and strong exceedingly;and it had great IRON teeth:it devoured and brake in pieces,and stamped the residue with the feet of it:and it was DIVERSE from all the(3)Beasts that were before it;and it had 10 horns(that is the Beast of sea- Revelation 13:1-whose embryo was formed in the Roman Empire-in the 4th Beast)
I considered the(10)horns(linked to the Beast of sea)and behold,there came up among them(among 10 horns-10 tribes)another little horn(the illeventh horn will rise up from the earth-from the little Israel-a Beast like a lamb,a false lamb- Revelation 13:11 combined with John 5:43-47)
The vision of Daniel fulfilled LITERALLY
JESUS said for the Devil: Matthew 4:4 - Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the MOUTH of GOD.
Where is written "every Word that proceeded out of the MOUTH of GOD"?
Maatthew 11: 27 - ...no MAN knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any MAN the Father, save the Son, and he TO WHOMSOEVER the Son WILL REVEAL HIM.
1 John 5:19-20
19 And we know that we are of GOD, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
20 And we know that the Son of GOD is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is true, and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true GOD, and eternal life.
John 3:3 and 5 and 17-21:
3 ... Except a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of GOD.
5 ... Except a MAN be born of water(of the Word of GOD) and of the Spirit(the Word is Spirit), he cannot enter into the Kingdom of GOD.
17 For GOD sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of GOD.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in GOD.
This is a difficult subject to discuss openly. Being one is to be united in the holy love of God. The way we can do this is to become one with His Son, Jesus Christ the only way to the Father, John 14:6. When a man and woman are married, they become one as we through faith become one in Jesus. When Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist Jesus was filled without measure with the Holy Ghost/Spirit, God's Spirit, John 3:34.
God was manifested in Jesus, John 14:10 1 Tim. 3:10. Jesus was the Tabernacle of God, John 10:38. Jesus and the Father are one John 10:30 and Jesus told us we can be one as He and the Father are one, John 17:20-23. Jesus did nothing on His own, only the will of the Father, Jesus was obedient to the Father, Rom. 5:19 and as you said, Jesus was sent by the Father, John 5:30. The doctrine Jesus laid out was not His doctrine but His who sent Him, the Father, John 7:16.
All things are delivered unto Jesus of the Father, Matt. 11:27 and all in heaven and earth is under Jesus's feet, 1 Cor. 15:27 and will be until the last enemy is under His feet, that is death, Rev. 20:14. Jesus said the Father was greater than Him, John 14:28. Scripture says Jesus has a God, 2 Cor. 11:3 1 Eph. 1:3 Eph. 1:17 Col 1:3 Jesus said He had a God John 20:17.
In the garden, Jesus prayed to the Father that the cup He was about to partake could pass if there was another way, but said not His will but the Father's will, Matt. 26:39. All the introductions, greetings, and blessings in the Scriptures in the New Testament that are given to the followers of Christ and called to be saints from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, two not three.
Rom. 1:7-8 1 Cor. 1:3-4 1 John 1:3 2 John 1:3 2 Cor. 1:2-3 Gal. 1:3-4 Eph. 1:2-3 Phil. 1:2 Col. 1:2-3 2 Thess.1:2 1 Tim.1:2 2 Tim.1:2 Titus 1:4 Philemon 1:3 2 Pet. 1:2.
You must study the Scriptures letting the Holy Spirit the Spirit of God guide you to your understanding, not from my reply, or man.
God bless,
RLW
Greetings in Christ JESUS
just to remember :
NATION shall rise against NATION ... Will be G7, and G-20, and UN, among other World Entites, DISSOLVED?
Get ready, yes, get ready
Our GOD is in control of History, nothing random happens.
Remember: Our GOD rests of His works in this seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium after Adam. By the way, GOD sent JESUS - the Word made flesh( John 1:14), He is the true God, and eternal life, and we know that the Son of GOD came (IN THE FOURTH DAY- John 5:17, take a look, or around 4000 years after Adam, even around 2000 years ago), and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is True, and we are in Him that is True, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and Eternal life- 1John 5:19-20.
Our Lord JESUS said: All Power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Our Lord JESUS will exert all His Power from this beginning of this seventh and final millennium to destroy the works of the Devil, to destroy the Devil's WORLD with its all kind of structures: religious, and economic,social,military, among other systems of the satanic organizations and systems.By the way, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ;and He shall reign for ever and ever- Revelation 11:15-18.Take a look.
By the way, one of the 7 heads of the MAN Beast of sea- Revelation 13:1-10- will be wounded to death; but his deadly wound will be healed (but how? well, the dragon( Revelation 13:11, will give to the MAN Beast of sea his Power, and his Seat (in Jerusalem), and great Authority- Revelation 13:2), and all the world ( Luke 21:24 combined with Revelation 11:2) will wonder after the MAN Beast of sea.
Be careful and get ready
Well, Celebration of the Lamb's marriage? ONLY AFTER THE JUDGMENT OF BABYLON. (see the site of purebibleforum)
Revelation 18:4- Come out of her,my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Get ready
In order to have an insight into the narrative mode of the Spirit we shall begin with examples. He organizes the narrative arc from the stand point of the divine Will and How it is accomplished. When a hand writes on the Wall judgment is executed the same night. "And this is the writing that was inscribed: Mene, Mene, Tekel, and Parsin (Dan.5:25)," and it is done,"That very night Belshazzar the Chaldean king was killed (Dan.5:30-ESV)". So God sent the hand that wrote the inscription (v.24). In short the visual sign of the hand is the judgment part of divine Will.
From John's Gospel we are told that "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:( John 5:22)" Having said this let us go back to the vision concerning the living creatures. "And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides;(1:8)" What does the hand of the angel of his presence indicate? Judgment on disobedient whether north south, east or west shall be equal. God is no respecter of persons. (Ro.2:11). No an hand was sent unto me. It holds out a roll of book or a scroll.
In v.10 we read thus:"And he spread it before me; and it was written within and without: and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woe."In the Book of Zechariah we are given the Vision of a Flying Roll.
Philippians 4:8
King James Version
8Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Well done! It's me and it is done.
My name is Oseas, in English language Hosea, in Hebrew Hoshea, or even Joshua- Numbers 13:16.
You should remember that the Word of GOD reveals(the Word is GOD,self-executing)that"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron- 1 Timothy 4:1-2.
You are "asking for prayer for the world" because(as you said) "there's so much going on right now", but remember: What is happening it is the LITERAL fulfillment of the prophetic Word of GOD, so the most important is to be focused in the fulfillment of Scriptures as is written:"Woe to the earth(Israel)and the sea(Gentile nations), because the Devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short."
There is no prayer that can change the course of the fulfillment of prophecies, see what happened to Peter when he suggested something contrary to the Scriptures- Matthew 16:22-23.
1John 5:18-20:-->18 We know that whosoever is born of GOD sinneth not; but he that is begotten of GOD keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
19And we know that we are of GOD, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
20And we know that the Son of GOD is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is true, and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true GOD, and eternal life.
Also remember:To every thing there is a season,and a time to every purpose under the heaven:A time to be born,and a time to die;a time to plant,and a time to pluck up that which is planted;A time to get,and a time to lose;a time to keep,and a time to cast away;a time to keep silence,and a time to speak;a time of war, and a time of peace,and so on-Eccl.3:1-8.
For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry-Heb.10:37.
Be careful and get ready
The disciples showed JESUS the buildings of the Temple.(Oh how great,admirable,were the stones of the Temple!)JESUS said:See ye not all these things?verily I say unto you,There shall not be left here ONE stone upon another,that shall not be thrown down.
Jesus left His disciples disappointed with His answer,evidently.
What JESUS prophesied LITERALLY was fulfilled,the Temple was destroyed in 70AD,and Israel was banned from their land and scattered around the world for around 1878 years,from year 70AD to 1948AD,more than 100K died under the Romans's attack.
Israel was punished severely from year 70AD until 1948AD, they suffered severe and great punishments in LITERAL fulfillment of Deuteronomy 28:15-68, so 53 verses of severe chastisements and curses.Take a look.The WORD IS GOD,self executing.
After JESUS went to the Mount of Olives,the disciples privately asked Him two important things:
1-What shall be the sign of thy coming?
2-and of the END of the world?(the current Devil's world)
The testimomy of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy.He LISTED several events linked(1st)to His coming;(2nd)to the END of this current Devil's world.
JESUS LISTED SEVERAL EVENTS, as follow: Matthew 24:4-8:
4-Take heed that no man deceive you;(first concerns of JESUS).
5- Many shall come in my name,saying,I am Christ;and shall deceive many;
(Soon will manifest the Beast of the earth who has two horns like a lamb,actually a false lamb,a false messiah, AN IMPOSTOR:- John 5:v.43 combined with Revelation 13:v.11-18)
6-And ye shall hear of WARS and RUMOURS of WARS;see that ye be not troubled:for all these things must come to pass,but the END is not yet.
7-NATION shall rise against NATION,and kingdom against kingdom(G7,and G20,EU,UNO, among others Entities shall be DISSOLVED from now on?)
-there shall be famines;
-and pestilences;
-and earthquakes in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
The WORST is yet to come as is written in Matt.24:15-25
Get ready
To continue in my study on Who God truly is I move on to "L" and meditate on God as being LIFE.
God revealed Himself to Moses in Exodus 3:14 as "I AM WHO I AM" which speaks to His self-existence. He does not derive His existence from any other, nor did He ever begin to exist at any time, nor will He ever not exit. This is impossible for Him.
When He calls Himself "I AM, it is perhaps one of the profoundest statement we can know. HE IS!
He is clearly stating that He exists, o if, and, or buts about it. He has always existed, and will exist forever.
John 1:4 says that Life is in God. He is the source of all life. Because He is the Life. john 11:25 Jesus calls Himself the Resurrection and the Life. John 5:26 Jesus says that He has Life within Himself just as the Father has life within Himself. Thus saying that He is God , just as the Father is God. John 6:63 Jesus says that the Spirit gives life, affirming that the Spirit is God. And with these statements Jesus is saying that within the Godhead there are three who together gives life since they are Life itself. Nothing comes into existence without being created by God and it is He who give any creature life. In John 6:63.
God made us. Each person of the Godhead is involved in giving us life because they are Life itself, as Jesus says in John 14:6 when He says that He is the way, the truth, and the life.
Romans 5:10 speaks of how we are saved through the life of Christ. By the power of God's everlasting life, Jesus' body was resurrected from the dead and lives forever. This is how we receive salvation. Because He lives, we will live. And since all people ever created receive their natural life from God, those who are chosen by God to be saved, receive their spiritual life from God as well. see part 2
Pray for understanding.
It is written in
Revelation 1:3,KJV
3.Blessed is he that readeth,
and they that hear the words of this prophecy,
and keep those things which are written therein:
for the time is at hand.
My recommendation to all the Christian who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, those using this online tool. Get yourself familiarise with the Hebrew and Greek languages of scripture (interlinear bible) and if By the grace of God Study both Languages
-In the Hebrew the word God and Heaven is revealed to us (Human-Beings) in Plural
-Elohim =GOD which singular Eloah and in Plural ELOHIM.
-Heaven= eshmim which is the heavens in Plural .
-Therefore, when you Read in Genesis 1:20 you will be confronted with this fact God says Let us which is in Plural Indicting One Yet Three in the Scriptures.
-Mind you this Fact is found All over the Scripture and it is written in 1 John 5:7, KJV
7.For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father, the Word, and
the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
(Time is at Hand we are living at the end of days.)
Repent of your sins and do not be deceive Amen.
ACT 2:38, KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
How will be this partnership between the MAN Beast of the sea(sea are peoples,and nations,and multitudes of all tongues- Revelation 17:15),and the MAN Beast of the earth that is like a lamb,a false lamb,a false messiah,AN IMPOSTOR- John 5:43-,yeah, how will be this partnership?
Revelation 13:2 gives us the answer for this question, that is:
To the MAN Beast of sea which is like unto a leopard,and his feet as the feet of a bear,and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(actually it refers the roots of this satanic Gentile Beast- Daniel 7:4-6, yeah, to him the false messiah-the dragon-Rev.13:11-,will give his Power, and his Seat(in Jerusalem, where is the Throne of Satan),and great Authority-Rev.13:2,and Power will be given unto the MAN Beast of sea-to the last of the Popes or Papacy,for forty and two months- Revelation 13:5.By the way,this period of 42 months ruled by the last Pope sat in the Throne of the false messiah in Jerusalem is the FIRST HALF of the last week-week 70th, Daniel 9:27,so Catholicism(iron)and the esoteric and kabbalistic Judaism(the clay)both will be together to establish an Universal and satanic religious kingdom,and then will LITERALLY be fulfilled what my Lord JESUS prophesied: "...and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles(with the Pope enthroned in Jerusalem by the false messiah),until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled-that is the fullness of the Gentiles"- Luke 21:24 combined with Revelation 11:2
Get ready
There are different places in the prophecies that say Christ will pour out the same plagues that were poured out on the Egyptians.
But, they want be LITERAL as they were in Egypt.
Hail mingled with fire was one of the plagues in Egypt, as was frogs.
Ezekiel 13:11 ....oh great hailstones shall fall, and a stormy wind shall rend it....
Ezekiel 38:22 And I will plead with him with pestilence and blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon many people that are with him, and overflowing rain, and great hailstone, fire and brimstone.
Isaiah 30:30 And the Lord SHALL CAUSE his glorious voice (his word) to be heard, and shall show the lighting down his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the FLAME of a devouring FIRE, with scattering, and tempest and hailstones.
So all these are SYMBOLIC of something that is going to judge God's people, as did the plagues judge the Egyptians.
John 5:22 ... God hath committed all judgement to the Son ...
So these symbols of judgement are symbols of Christ, and Christ is the Word, and the WORD(S) of God JUDGES US.
John 12:48 ... the words that I have spoken, the same words will judge you .....
Isaiah 28:2 Behold the Lord has a mighty and strong one (the WORD), which as a tempest of HAIL and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters, shall cast down to earth with the hand
Isaiah 28:3 The crown of PRIDE .....
Isaiah 28:5 In that day (of judgement when one believes God's word) the Lord (the WORD) shall be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty,unto the residue his people.
Isaiah 28:8 But they (the residue of his people) have also ERRED THROUGH WINE (explained in other scriptures, but is not alcoholic wine), and through strong drink (not alcohol) are OUT OF THE WAY (Christ is the way) .... they err in VISION and stumble in JUDGEMENT.
I will continue in a second comment on the frogs.
God BLESS YOU!
" The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."(Ps.110:1)
Here we have the divine Will concerning his Son. 'Until I make thine enemies thy footstool' is an indication of the divine Will. When Jesus declared,"My Father worketh hitherto, and I work"( John 5:17) we can understand both heaven and the earth are as one. How God in heaven set about quelling the riot of the enemies of Christ we have in two visions.
The one in Daniel is about an everlasting kingdom. "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him./ And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him.(7:13-14). Enemies of Christ were dealt in the nations which figure in the vision mentioned before. They are specific as well as they continue 'for a season and time. (Dan.7:12)
Second vision is not about one 'like the Son of man' but of a Lamb, " As it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."(Re.7:5)
What we are really focussed with these posts is to show the days weeks, months and years are all set to work at the behest of God the Father whose will is to make all the enemies of his Son, his footstool. Isaiah for instance said, "the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;" All these happen simultaneously so when the Lamb break open seven seals these are all set in motion and not one after the other. Similar to the seven pillars or days set forth in the abstract. (Ge.1:1)
In the Psalm God tells the Son, 'Sit thou at my right hand' which establishes the Father Son relationship goes before the worlds were framed by the word of God. (He.11:3).